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On February 27 2014 09:02 Vivax wrote:Show nested quote +On February 27 2014 08:57 raynpelikoneet wrote:
I am kinda into Mocsta, geript idk, maybe gumshoe mafia? Did you compare gumshoe's meta to GSL? Feels a lot different to me. Agree on geript though. I'd throw WoS in there though, still gotta hear from ange7, and I wouldn't discount suki yet, but I still got to dive her filter. Did I miss anyone else?
Well gumshoe has proven he is familiar with his meta and he just played scum with me in that game so he knows what i know. It's not impossible for him to intentionally "dumb down" his play from informed to "uninformed".
yes suki is a questionmark aswell.
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Rayn how confident are you that HF is town? Didn't like those questions he asked me back then. I felt like he wanted me to say obvious stuff.
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On February 27 2014 09:04 raynpelikoneet wrote:Show nested quote +On February 27 2014 09:02 Vivax wrote:On February 27 2014 08:57 raynpelikoneet wrote:
I am kinda into Mocsta, geript idk, maybe gumshoe mafia? Did you compare gumshoe's meta to GSL? Feels a lot different to me. Agree on geript though. I'd throw WoS in there though, still gotta hear from ange7, and I wouldn't discount suki yet, but I still got to dive her filter. Did I miss anyone else? Well gumshoe has proven he is familiar with his meta and he just played scum with me in that game so he knows what i know. It's not impossible for him to intentionally "dumb down" his play from informed to "uninformed". yes suki is a questionmark aswell.
1: Nowhere in Vivax's post did he say I was "uninformed". I dont like how you made the distinction in my play be one of quality. Also you called my suki case bad, but consider her a question mark? I hate you this game Rayn T_T
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On February 27 2014 09:05 Vivax wrote:
Rayn how confident are you that HF is town? Didn't like those questions he asked me back then. I felt like he wanted me to say obvious stuff.
How can you go from stating like 1 page back that we shouldn't be giving out town reads but then the next page literally just asking for town reads?????
Also @ Toad, why have you continuously put me in your top 3 scum reads but your only reasoning is for one post that I questioned you about? What is my scum motivation behind that? What else is there that makes you lean scum on me over people that have not been present or opportunistically posting? You haven't qualified it or discussed anything about me at all, or mocsta, yet we're still in your top 3.
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Consider all I said about townreads nullified. I just wanna talk about what I want now.
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On February 27 2014 09:07 gumshoe wrote:Show nested quote +On February 27 2014 09:04 raynpelikoneet wrote:On February 27 2014 09:02 Vivax wrote:On February 27 2014 08:57 raynpelikoneet wrote:
I am kinda into Mocsta, geript idk, maybe gumshoe mafia? Did you compare gumshoe's meta to GSL? Feels a lot different to me. Agree on geript though. I'd throw WoS in there though, still gotta hear from ange7, and I wouldn't discount suki yet, but I still got to dive her filter. Did I miss anyone else? Well gumshoe has proven he is familiar with his meta and he just played scum with me in that game so he knows what i know. It's not impossible for him to intentionally "dumb down" his play from informed to "uninformed". yes suki is a questionmark aswell. 1: Nowhere in Vivax's post did he say I was "uninformed". I dont like how you made the distinction in my play be one of quality. Also you called my suki case bad, but consider her a question mark? I hate you this game Rayn T_T
Your case on suki:
As for Suki, I'm not sure I can share some of towns confidence in her, I think shes wrong on Moc, and her case on Chyz is basically just that hes weak. I read through his newbie game, he was mislynched on day 3 and his play was similar to this game, Suki coincidentally was in that game as well and yet shes choosing to read him as scummy, even though shes witnessed his shoddy town play first hand.
These sort of walk in, walk out try hard cases are exactly what I love to do as scum and I think I've found myself a kindred spirit, I'm voting for Suki for now.
is my case on suki:
On February 27 2014 03:44 Holyflare wrote:+ Show Spoiler +On February 27 2014 01:10 suki wrote:Case on TheChyzTheChyz comes in with a town read on Mocsta out of the blue saying 'it's the way you're playing'. He dodges my request for him to share his reads by saying 'I have some hunches', without elaborating. He starts pressuring Mocsta. Makes a bad case on JJD that he quickly gets off of. Says this: Show nested quote +On February 26 2014 15:12 TheChyz wrote:
You guys can play having 1 scummy thing on someone and immediately call them mafia. I don't. Then votes geript with a pretty awful case. Show nested quote +On February 26 2014 16:38 TheChyz wrote:kk. With geript I still have a problem of how he was so quick to say that rayn and toad couldn't be scum together. There was no explanation why he made that conclusion until I finally made him answer with On February 26 2014 12:33 geript wrote:On February 26 2014 12:26 TheChyz wrote:
Hey geript I'm not a moron you know. My memory lasts more than a few minutes. Would you mind explain why rayn and toad can't be scum together. (for the third time...) A few things. One is how chummy they are early makes it unlikely they'd be together. Second, Rayn is probably town for his geript cop joke; it took me like 3 minutes to get that one. Third, I like Rayn's WoS vote and minor push; WoS has been trolling really weird to start off with and isn't his usual witty self. Fourth, they wouldn't both likely push back against me as scum together this early. Like I'm apparently unreadable to people which is totally crazy in my mind. All of these points are terrible. It seems more like he just put out some random statement and after being asked to answer on it it seems like he is backtracking. See how he goes to make several points. Not only does it seem like he is trying to be over defensive but that most of them are just a big pile of poop. Let's go over the points: 1) I don't even know what chummy means but it seems like the way you guys are acting early on. Again that doesn't really say anything and is something anybody can say about almost anything. 2) He is backtracking to a joke rayn made that makes him town? Well shit i think he just solved mafia. People making jokes = town. I don't understand the context but I believe that is irrelevant. 3) I don't even understand this one. Something again that rayn is towny to him. 4) Saying how its unlikely for something to happen which does not seem unlikely at all. In all of these points, NOTHING again answers why he think rayn and toad cannot be scum together. If anything it seems more like he is developing a rayn town read. This all seems like a load of backtracking and most likely hoping that he wouldn't get called out for his words before hand. Apart from that everything else just has no effort to even try and scum hunt. Thought he was kinda scummy but not this scummy until re-reading his filter now. ##Vote geript This case is really bad. Not only does he not explain how geript is scummy for any of his 'points', it seems like a big part of his case is 'I dont understand whats going on'. His entire case is based on geript's comment that rayn and toad cannot be scum together... Like, that's just weak. Show nested quote +Thought he was kinda scummy but not this scummy until re-reading his filter now. This conclusion just feels out of place. Like he's trying to explain why he didn't think geript was scummy before but now he does. "Making a story", as it were. TheChyz also seems to be pressuring Mocsta, but I have no idea what TheChyz's opinion of Mocsta is. At the beginning of the game he read Mocsta as town, now he seems to be neutral? Show nested quote +Also suki just rubbing me the wrong way with here weird defensiveness and interactions with mocsta. Not sure what but something from reading her filter just doesn't seem right. This is also really flaky. He's saying I look scummy but isn't trying to figure out what looks scummy. He thinks mocsta is suspicious but isn't making a decision. He made a weak case on geript off of one of geript's posts but doesn't seem to be commenting on other things that geript has done. Other people's cases on TheChyz In general I agree with other people's cases on TheChyz. I like JJD's case: Show nested quote +On February 26 2014 22:50 JarJarDrinks wrote:On February 26 2014 22:34 Mocsta wrote:
JJd, since you are here.
Thoughts on Chz and Suki pls.
(Regarding Suki, i get you think she was carefree at the start, but what about overall) Suki reads very town to me. Chyz does actually read very scummy to me after a reread. Few things I don't like: - Like gumshoe, he called you town early when I don't think you were acting townish @ all. - He sheeped geripts case on me and while I think geript legit misread my post, it kinda felt like chyz was being opportunistic - I agree w/ the notion that someone acting scummy does not automatically make that person a scumread. But the way he worded it On February 26 2014 14:42 TheChyz wrote:
I don't think he's mafia, but I do think this sentence "But it's way scummier to call you town and sheep that case" is scummy. doesn't sit right. Like "I'm leaning scum" or even "He's null for me" would be a better qualifier for that sentence. I don't think Mocsta's case is that good. Show nested quote +On February 26 2014 11:16 TheChyz wrote:
Ionno suki, are you going to come in and provide any attempt at reads or just ask questions all day long?
As per your question, I have hunches on some things, but nothing I feel is actually worth saying atm. Here, TheChyz casually queries Suki indicating that he does not share my read. The question posed will not provide any alignment indicative response either. I don't think TheChyz's question on me indicated that he didn't share Mocsta's read (that I was suspicious). I don't agree with: Show nested quote +The important thing to note is that previously TheChyz stated he would only comment if something is wroth commenting on. So why... is he so fixated on someone calling "Rayn/Toad" town.
He seems to refuse to accept they can both be town; yet, hasnt given a direct indication of his read on either player.
Very scummy. TheChyz hasn't indicated what he thinks of Rayn or Toad's alignment which is weird but not scummy. His case on geript was independent of his read on rayn/toad. Show nested quote +On February 26 2014 14:31 TheChyz wrote:
Typo seen ^ *gumshoe is currently set to be lynched*. Just found that funny since so much talk has been about him
This is a guy that is intentionally trying to dodge giving out any insight AND THAT is scummy. I can understand the point that it is trying to dodge giving insight while commenting on gumshoe. I can see it as a townie 'haha i found it funny'. I can see it as a scummy 'lets talk about things but not really'. I see that Mocsta has pinned it as scummy behaviour. Show nested quote +In summary:
Overall, TheChyz arguments have been weak and offer no insight into his thought process.
He is calling out people prematurely (e.g. Holyflare + Rayn/Toad) yet doesnt indicatve whether he reads those players town or scum.
He also prematurely calls me town when not under fire for my scumhunting, yet doesnt seem to support my reads.
Lastly, he goes out of his way to dodge questions (e.g. to Suki). I find it funny that Mocsta's summary points 1 and 2 can be used to describe his play this game. I don't see how, on its own, Mocsta's points establish that TheChyz's play has been scum motivated. Other people have posted cases but I'm out of time this morning  - - - SUMMARYI think the word to describe TheChyz's play is "weak". There are plenty of contradictions in his words and actions. He seems to have no inclination to scum hunt, but every inclination to throw suspicion on people. I'm leaning towards scummy on him.Scummy things: 1. random defense of mocsta out of nowhere 2. not being transparent with reads, not straight up saying 'this person is scummy' (except geript but that case sucks) 3. not pushing his scum reads. 4. Seemingly not interested in finding scum. I know rayn and some other people brought up cases against TheChyz, and when I read through them in my catch-up I generally agreed with them. There are some points that were brought up that are not in this case that do make TheChyz look scummy. Mocsta being so adamant on TheChyz makes me doubt that both of them are scum together. TheChyz recently has spent effort talking with Mocsta, which, given his weak play, I find unlikely to happen if they were scumbuddies. Also no reason for a hard bus at this point. mmm... I'll have to think about this one. There's still half a day left so plenty of time for both players to contribute. Do you always write at such length to come to the conclusion of "weak"? Why waste your time writing all that just to say that he might be or might not be scum when you could be spending it coming to something conclusive, like pressuring him as I've seen you do in your other games.
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On February 27 2014 09:11 Holyflare wrote:Show nested quote +On February 27 2014 09:07 gumshoe wrote:On February 27 2014 09:04 raynpelikoneet wrote:On February 27 2014 09:02 Vivax wrote:On February 27 2014 08:57 raynpelikoneet wrote:
I am kinda into Mocsta, geript idk, maybe gumshoe mafia? Did you compare gumshoe's meta to GSL? Feels a lot different to me. Agree on geript though. I'd throw WoS in there though, still gotta hear from ange7, and I wouldn't discount suki yet, but I still got to dive her filter. Did I miss anyone else? Well gumshoe has proven he is familiar with his meta and he just played scum with me in that game so he knows what i know. It's not impossible for him to intentionally "dumb down" his play from informed to "uninformed". yes suki is a questionmark aswell. 1: Nowhere in Vivax's post did he say I was "uninformed". I dont like how you made the distinction in my play be one of quality. Also you called my suki case bad, but consider her a question mark? I hate you this game Rayn T_T Your case on suki: Show nested quote +
As for Suki, I'm not sure I can share some of towns confidence in her, I think shes wrong on Moc, and her case on Chyz is basically just that hes weak. I read through his newbie game, he was mislynched on day 3 and his play was similar to this game, Suki coincidentally was in that game as well and yet shes choosing to read him as scummy, even though shes witnessed his shoddy town play first hand.
These sort of walk in, walk out try hard cases are exactly what I love to do as scum and I think I've found myself a kindred spirit, I'm voting for Suki for now.
is my case on suki: Show nested quote +On February 27 2014 03:44 Holyflare wrote:+ Show Spoiler +On February 27 2014 01:10 suki wrote:Case on TheChyzTheChyz comes in with a town read on Mocsta out of the blue saying 'it's the way you're playing'. He dodges my request for him to share his reads by saying 'I have some hunches', without elaborating. He starts pressuring Mocsta. Makes a bad case on JJD that he quickly gets off of. Says this: Show nested quote +On February 26 2014 15:12 TheChyz wrote:
You guys can play having 1 scummy thing on someone and immediately call them mafia. I don't. Then votes geript with a pretty awful case. Show nested quote +On February 26 2014 16:38 TheChyz wrote:kk. With geript I still have a problem of how he was so quick to say that rayn and toad couldn't be scum together. There was no explanation why he made that conclusion until I finally made him answer with On February 26 2014 12:33 geript wrote:On February 26 2014 12:26 TheChyz wrote:
Hey geript I'm not a moron you know. My memory lasts more than a few minutes. Would you mind explain why rayn and toad can't be scum together. (for the third time...) A few things. One is how chummy they are early makes it unlikely they'd be together. Second, Rayn is probably town for his geript cop joke; it took me like 3 minutes to get that one. Third, I like Rayn's WoS vote and minor push; WoS has been trolling really weird to start off with and isn't his usual witty self. Fourth, they wouldn't both likely push back against me as scum together this early. Like I'm apparently unreadable to people which is totally crazy in my mind. All of these points are terrible. It seems more like he just put out some random statement and after being asked to answer on it it seems like he is backtracking. See how he goes to make several points. Not only does it seem like he is trying to be over defensive but that most of them are just a big pile of poop. Let's go over the points: 1) I don't even know what chummy means but it seems like the way you guys are acting early on. Again that doesn't really say anything and is something anybody can say about almost anything. 2) He is backtracking to a joke rayn made that makes him town? Well shit i think he just solved mafia. People making jokes = town. I don't understand the context but I believe that is irrelevant. 3) I don't even understand this one. Something again that rayn is towny to him. 4) Saying how its unlikely for something to happen which does not seem unlikely at all. In all of these points, NOTHING again answers why he think rayn and toad cannot be scum together. If anything it seems more like he is developing a rayn town read. This all seems like a load of backtracking and most likely hoping that he wouldn't get called out for his words before hand. Apart from that everything else just has no effort to even try and scum hunt. Thought he was kinda scummy but not this scummy until re-reading his filter now. ##Vote geript This case is really bad. Not only does he not explain how geript is scummy for any of his 'points', it seems like a big part of his case is 'I dont understand whats going on'. His entire case is based on geript's comment that rayn and toad cannot be scum together... Like, that's just weak. Show nested quote +Thought he was kinda scummy but not this scummy until re-reading his filter now. This conclusion just feels out of place. Like he's trying to explain why he didn't think geript was scummy before but now he does. "Making a story", as it were. TheChyz also seems to be pressuring Mocsta, but I have no idea what TheChyz's opinion of Mocsta is. At the beginning of the game he read Mocsta as town, now he seems to be neutral? Show nested quote +Also suki just rubbing me the wrong way with here weird defensiveness and interactions with mocsta. Not sure what but something from reading her filter just doesn't seem right. This is also really flaky. He's saying I look scummy but isn't trying to figure out what looks scummy. He thinks mocsta is suspicious but isn't making a decision. He made a weak case on geript off of one of geript's posts but doesn't seem to be commenting on other things that geript has done. Other people's cases on TheChyz In general I agree with other people's cases on TheChyz. I like JJD's case: Show nested quote +On February 26 2014 22:50 JarJarDrinks wrote:On February 26 2014 22:34 Mocsta wrote:
JJd, since you are here.
Thoughts on Chz and Suki pls.
(Regarding Suki, i get you think she was carefree at the start, but what about overall) Suki reads very town to me. Chyz does actually read very scummy to me after a reread. Few things I don't like: - Like gumshoe, he called you town early when I don't think you were acting townish @ all. - He sheeped geripts case on me and while I think geript legit misread my post, it kinda felt like chyz was being opportunistic - I agree w/ the notion that someone acting scummy does not automatically make that person a scumread. But the way he worded it On February 26 2014 14:42 TheChyz wrote:
I don't think he's mafia, but I do think this sentence "But it's way scummier to call you town and sheep that case" is scummy. doesn't sit right. Like "I'm leaning scum" or even "He's null for me" would be a better qualifier for that sentence. I don't think Mocsta's case is that good. Show nested quote +On February 26 2014 11:16 TheChyz wrote:
Ionno suki, are you going to come in and provide any attempt at reads or just ask questions all day long?
As per your question, I have hunches on some things, but nothing I feel is actually worth saying atm. Here, TheChyz casually queries Suki indicating that he does not share my read. The question posed will not provide any alignment indicative response either. I don't think TheChyz's question on me indicated that he didn't share Mocsta's read (that I was suspicious). I don't agree with: Show nested quote +The important thing to note is that previously TheChyz stated he would only comment if something is wroth commenting on. So why... is he so fixated on someone calling "Rayn/Toad" town.
He seems to refuse to accept they can both be town; yet, hasnt given a direct indication of his read on either player.
Very scummy. TheChyz hasn't indicated what he thinks of Rayn or Toad's alignment which is weird but not scummy. His case on geript was independent of his read on rayn/toad. Show nested quote +On February 26 2014 14:31 TheChyz wrote:
Typo seen ^ *gumshoe is currently set to be lynched*. Just found that funny since so much talk has been about him
This is a guy that is intentionally trying to dodge giving out any insight AND THAT is scummy. I can understand the point that it is trying to dodge giving insight while commenting on gumshoe. I can see it as a townie 'haha i found it funny'. I can see it as a scummy 'lets talk about things but not really'. I see that Mocsta has pinned it as scummy behaviour. Show nested quote +In summary:
Overall, TheChyz arguments have been weak and offer no insight into his thought process.
He is calling out people prematurely (e.g. Holyflare + Rayn/Toad) yet doesnt indicatve whether he reads those players town or scum.
He also prematurely calls me town when not under fire for my scumhunting, yet doesnt seem to support my reads.
Lastly, he goes out of his way to dodge questions (e.g. to Suki). I find it funny that Mocsta's summary points 1 and 2 can be used to describe his play this game. I don't see how, on its own, Mocsta's points establish that TheChyz's play has been scum motivated. Other people have posted cases but I'm out of time this morning - - - SUMMARYI think the word to describe TheChyz's play is "weak". There are plenty of contradictions in his words and actions. He seems to have no inclination to scum hunt, but every inclination to throw suspicion on people. I'm leaning towards scummy on him.Scummy things: 1. random defense of mocsta out of nowhere 2. not being transparent with reads, not straight up saying 'this person is scummy' (except geript but that case sucks) 3. not pushing his scum reads. 4. Seemingly not interested in finding scum. I know rayn and some other people brought up cases against TheChyz, and when I read through them in my catch-up I generally agreed with them. There are some points that were brought up that are not in this case that do make TheChyz look scummy. Mocsta being so adamant on TheChyz makes me doubt that both of them are scum together. TheChyz recently has spent effort talking with Mocsta, which, given his weak play, I find unlikely to happen if they were scumbuddies. Also no reason for a hard bus at this point. mmm... I'll have to think about this one. There's still half a day left so plenty of time for both players to contribute. Do you always write at such length to come to the conclusion of "weak"? Why waste your time writing all that just to say that he might be or might not be scum when you could be spending it coming to something conclusive, like pressuring him as I've seen you do in your other games.
Sorry didnt see yours ) : credit where it's due, I bow to your superior forsight, so can we lynch her?
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On February 27 2014 09:05 Vivax wrote:
Rayn how confident are you that HF is town? Didn't like those questions he asked me back then. I felt like he wanted me to say obvious stuff.
There is a certain pattern in how he operates as town which i have never seen him do as scum.
I read the following games earlier on today:
- Vengeful (town)
- Titanic II (town)
- Really small mini (town)
- Survivor (scum)
- TL Mafia LXIII (scum)
- Shadow (scum)
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On February 27 2014 09:08 Holyflare wrote:Show nested quote +On February 27 2014 09:05 Vivax wrote:
Rayn how confident are you that HF is town? Didn't like those questions he asked me back then. I felt like he wanted me to say obvious stuff. How can you go from stating like 1 page back that we shouldn't be giving out town reads but then the next page literally just asking for town reads????? Also @ Toad, why have you continuously put me in your top 3 scum reads but your only reasoning is for one post that I questioned you about? What is my scum motivation behind that? What else is there that makes you lean scum on me over people that have not been present or opportunistically posting? You haven't qualified it or discussed anything about me at all, or mocsta, yet we're still in your top 3.
actually I explained a little about mocsta, Rayn quoted it and said it's even worse because it looks like misrepresentation or at the very least exaggeration because he's not the kind of guy who just flat out ignores people. To me that means trouble and that's the reason he got from yellow to orange.
I didn't even feel the need to read your adventure time and I didn't like the post I quoted from you. The quote is a minor thing but I don't see anything particularly townie about you so that's why you're yellow and not neutral. I don't really feel like going more into detail about to be honest, at least for today when I want mocsta and geript lynched a lot more. The read on you is somewhat of a gut-read I guess.
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On February 27 2014 09:15 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Holyflare where did we fly kiterayn btw?
wormhole :D can post some more if you want  PPP
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I don't have much time today but see I am the vote leader
At this point my care factor is pretty low
I dunno what's worse: rolling scum when u k ow the rest of ya team lurks or playing a game like this where everyone jumps on u, it no1 a really specifies why I am scum.
Everyone issue seems to be that they cant my mindset... Which is null
Either way if it takes me flipping town for people to play this game properly so be it.
I think rayn looks better than say 12hrs ago. He's prob the only person I am comfortable with that has voted me.
Toad is prob town but is a real idiot. His thoughts may be crystal clear but that doesn't make the outcome right.
Vivax is a real surprise vote. I assume he's going to state one of me and gum is scum. Now he's town on gum I have become that town read.
He's tingling me right now pretty hard after his opportune vote switch.
Pls remember he was pushing wos and then pounced on me.
I need to reread suki case against her 2014 scum game.
I have her back at null from a rethink.
On one hand her cases were pretty lacklustre.
On the other hand I'm still giving credit for being CB.
I'm liking geript. As scum he could be trying to look good by town reading me, but his reasons seemed decent and not bullshit. It at least showed he thought about it which I thinks important with one caveat. He normally calls me town for moclogic which he hasn't dine here. Either way he's a terrible lynch for today.
I don't care for cavalinho questions, but I liked him based on association with chz. If cha was somehow town I would consider cavalinho as sleeper scum
Jjd is town. Too many flip-flops on me which are unwarrantedironically this is how I'm playing the game yet I'm apparently not town.
Its a concern ange hasn't posted but I think she said she would be away initially.
Lastly HF I guess. Dunno I don't like him but its pure feel. I expect him to be better than this is prob the crux.
Hmmm so that's where I am at
To me CHz posting hasn't improved and I still think he is intentionally withholding his position on matters.
He's my vote for the cycle.
Like I said. Today is crunch day for me at work so I wasn't even meant to post this. That's it. Obviously I would prefer to not be lynched but this game is quickly heading towards if I don't like it. Its scum mentality which will not help my cause. Ciao and if I flip look hard at vivax.
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That post kinda makes me more confident that he's scum. He doesn't fight back.
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On February 27 2014 09:20 Vivax wrote:
That post kinda makes me more confident that he's scum. He doesn't fight back.
Opposite for me ) : Mocsta would be a lot more spiteful here as scum, shit like "lol, this town sucks" here he just sounds sad, first time he roles town in ages and hes day 1 lynched.
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On February 27 2014 09:24 gumshoe wrote:Show nested quote +On February 27 2014 09:20 Vivax wrote:
That post kinda makes me more confident that he's scum. He doesn't fight back. Opposite for me ) : Mocsta would be a lot more spiteful here as scum, shit like "lol, this town sucks" here he just sounds sad, first time he roles town in ages and hes day 1 lynched.
Wat³
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On February 27 2014 09:25 Vivax wrote:Show nested quote +On February 27 2014 09:24 gumshoe wrote:On February 27 2014 09:20 Vivax wrote:
That post kinda makes me more confident that he's scum. He doesn't fight back. Opposite for me ) : Mocsta would be a lot more spiteful here as scum, shit like "lol, this town sucks" here he just sounds sad, first time he roles town in ages and hes day 1 lynched. Wat³
You heard me, all in, Mocsta is town.
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I thought you were town cause you sounded a lot more confident than in GSL, but now you sound TOO confident gum.
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On February 27 2014 09:20 Vivax wrote:
That post kinda makes me more confident that he's scum. He doesn't fight back.
I have a major problem about your reads and mocsta does highlight that too. You initially say you don't want to talk to people unless they are around, that's ok, i've seen people play like that, then you start to post cases about other people when they aren't around, at this point it's looking more suspect because they can't defend themselves at that present moment and when that falls flat on your face you change your read on gumshoe because thread sentiment is lynching mocsta and the only reason you give for it is
On February 27 2014 07:31 Vivax wrote:I'll sheep ya, Rayn. I want to add a few points though. Filterskim reveals a very passive Mocsta, no cases on people he believes to be scum since he has been put into the defensive. What I also don't understand is how he townreads WoS out of nowhere. He looked scummy to you, he looks scummy to me, and for him it's the strongest townread, and then he asks a question like this, which shouldn't interest him in the slightest if he's town imo: Show nested quote +On February 27 2014 01:30 Mocsta wrote:On February 27 2014 01:28 geript wrote:
Toadescum. Idgaf what you think or ever thought about claiming miller. It's trolly regardless and I wish Palmar were here to help lynch you. Where do you stand with Wave currently? the only reason you want to join this bandwagon is that he is passive and gives a town read on your scum read out of nowhere, yet, this is the ONLY reason compared to your wall of text on wave and your pressure on gumshoe why are you sheeping so hard? why has your play devolved from what you think is best to wanting to fit in the most when needed to? your biggest scum read is seemingly wave but you're happy to lynch mocsta based on unflipped associations to a wonky read but when your other original scum read (gumshoe) did this on suki/mocsta at the start he can now be town? ##Unvote
##Vote MocstaPutting WoS on the backfire for now. Mocsta is a more solid (and likely) lynch.
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On February 27 2014 09:26 Vivax wrote:
I thought you were town cause you sounded a lot more confident than in GSL, but now you sound TOO confident gum.
Do I Vax?! DO I !!!!
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