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On February 28 2014 03:52 Toadesstern wrote:Show nested quote +On February 28 2014 03:50 gumshoe wrote:On February 28 2014 03:46 Vivax wrote:
No one is willing to lynch geript? Are you reading the thread gum? This still stands. Geript
In the midst of the tl mafia ban list crisis, I asked Geript on team speak "Geript, if tl mafia is incapable of changing to your liking, would you rather just see it all burn to the ground?" his response? "ABSOLUTELY". Having thought about it, I realize that Geript is entirely capable of this level of tunneling on toad for such shoddy reasoning, but as others have pointed out, he knows his own meta / : Geript is my Gumshoe T_T. Down grading to null. We should all just ignore his Toad case so hes forced to talk about other people. We did for at least 24 hours . He choose to ignore his chance and is back at it, hence I am voting it. Now can you do the same as you promised and vote him with me because he claimed mafia?
Where did he claim 0_0. and ultimatly I'm just not going to vote for someone I no longer think is scum, today I will lynch (in this order) Jar, vivax and suki. No one else.
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On February 28 2014 04:11 JarJarDrinks wrote:Show nested quote +On February 28 2014 03:58 JarJarDrinks wrote:On February 28 2014 03:38 gumshoe wrote:
You are my number one scum read, I see no reason to discuss anything with you. Yet you had no problem going back and forth discussing things w/ me yesterday. Is the reason you refuse to discuss this in particular because you've been completely caught in a lie? Not only that but you've been discussing plenty of shit w/ vivax who you supposedly have as a scum read as well.
He is my number two scum read ( : big gap in between the two, what do you think the titan fall hype?
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On February 28 2014 04:29 Vivax wrote:Show nested quote +On February 28 2014 04:28 gumshoe wrote:On February 28 2014 04:11 JarJarDrinks wrote:On February 28 2014 03:58 JarJarDrinks wrote:On February 28 2014 03:38 gumshoe wrote:
You are my number one scum read, I see no reason to discuss anything with you. Yet you had no problem going back and forth discussing things w/ me yesterday. Is the reason you refuse to discuss this in particular because you've been completely caught in a lie? Not only that but you've been discussing plenty of shit w/ vivax who you supposedly have as a scum read as well. He is my number two scum read ( : big gap in between the two, what do you think the titan fall hype? What happened to your suki scum read. A lot of your bad cases on JJD are based on them being scum together and showing their connections.
Hasnt gone anywhere, it's just that lynching Jar is functionally the same as lynching Suki, whereas you are a different avenue entirely.
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On February 28 2014 04:31 Vivax wrote:And with that I mean: How did you go from this Show nested quote +So yeah, my scum team is primarily Suki and Jar, with Vivax in the wings(much sheep on the case against him) to this Show nested quote +He is my number two scum read ( : big gap in between the two, what do you think the titan fall hype?
Whats changed? I still think your all scum. You must be pretty desperate to be nitpicking this hard.
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Ok, lets play it this way, instead of just pointing to a meaningless inconsistency, tell me why my upping you to number 2 of 3 while still holding you all together as scum makes me scum, or why I would do that as scum. I want motive, otherwise all your doing is scape goating.
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OH MY GOD IM A GOLIATH, YAAAAAAAAAY.
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On February 28 2014 04:45 Vivax wrote:Show nested quote +On February 28 2014 04:34 gumshoe wrote:On February 28 2014 04:31 Vivax wrote:And with that I mean: How did you go from this So yeah, my scum team is primarily Suki and Jar, with Vivax in the wings(much sheep on the case against him) to this He is my number two scum read ( : big gap in between the two, what do you think the titan fall hype? Whats changed? I still think your all scum. You must be pretty desperate to be nitpicking this hard. Dude, there's one part in your case that doesn't assume JJD and suki are scum together: Show nested quote +
I know Jar Jar to be a tunneller as town, he sticks to his reads, but this game hes bounced everywhere and several influential players have given him a pass on it. He starts fires where ever he can and hopes they catch. When they dont, he moves on until something sticks, but hes always willing to backtrack. In bluez light mafia, he bounced back between Oats , TOFU, TAA gemorpit, Vivax, jkirby, Corazon, tangeng, in efforts to get any one of them lynched, and I'm seeing the makings of that same capriciousness in this game.
Find me examples for the bolded, cause the hyperbole you use for him jumping around doesn't really reflect in his filter. He voted Chyz, then unvoted saying his posts looked townie. Now he's on your ass. That's all I gained from his filter and it doesn't look like he's jumping around like crazy like you say. Most of your case against JJD is something that could be used against you and your irrational certainty of Mocsta's alignment.
Hes been on and off Moc, Me and Chyz and he just back traked on Suki as well. My irrational certainty of Mocsta is based off a games worth of experience with him together as scum, Jar's faith in Suki was based off one post and as the heat mounted onto her he forgoed her as well. Oh and that one piece of my case saying theyre not scum together is exactly why I would prefer to not lynch Suki before him or you. Shes still probally scum, and I'll gladly vote for her, I'm just making preferences clear.
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On February 28 2014 04:47 Vivax wrote:Show nested quote +On February 28 2014 04:36 gumshoe wrote:
Ok, lets play it this way, instead of just pointing to a meaningless inconsistency, tell me why my upping you to number 2 of 3 while still holding you all together as scum makes me scum, or why I would do that as scum. I want motive, otherwise all your doing is scape goating. Or you could simply explain how you set those priorities. My guess is that it depends on the likelihood of one of them getting lynched.
You are the one accusing me, dont twist the question, if you cant answer it then it means you dont actually believe I'm scum, your just pushing me because you saw something to push.
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On February 28 2014 04:52 JarJarDrinks wrote:Show nested quote +On February 28 2014 04:45 Vivax wrote:
Dude, there's one part in your case that doesn't assume JJD and suki are scum together:
There's more than 1 part. Several times he uses terms like "buddy up" and "sheep" which just doesn't work when talking about scumbuddies. Furthermore it's just not true @ all as I proved when I shot down his case here: + Show Spoiler +On February 27 2014 23:11 JarJarDrinks wrote:First off his case against me is garbage. He says things like I'm buddying to Suki even though he supposedly has us both as scum teammates. He selectively pulls quotes from my posts to make me look bad. Like he spends a ton of time talking about how I'm all in w/ suki Show nested quote +On February 27 2014 11:05 gumshoe wrote:
I dont like Jar Jar, much of his style has been mostly determined by an uncanny devotion to Suki. Show nested quote +On February 27 2014 11:05 gumshoe wrote:
From here on out, Jar mostly pushes me and Moc and at the foundation of this crusade is his staunch bilief in Suki. Show nested quote +On February 27 2014 11:05 gumshoe wrote:
Later on he asserts his Suki read without proof. Show nested quote +On February 27 2014 11:05 gumshoe wrote:
Also, despite Jar Jar buddying her to extreme lengths, Suki has not once mentioned him. Show nested quote +On February 27 2014 11:05 gumshoe wrote:
For now I'll switch my vote onto Jar, because the dudes based his accusations against me on my undying love for Moc, while his loyalty to Suki, which has defined his play for more than mine to Moc, is more so questionable and pretty much unexplained. That's alll from his case against me. I think he mentioned suki more in that one post then I have the entire thread. All I said about her was how I thought Moc made a bad case against her and then later on when Moc asked me what I thought about her I said she read town to me. Gumshoe is completely misrepresenting my play. Read my filter and tell me if you think "much of [My] style has been mostly determined by an uncanny devotion to Suki." It's a total horseshit case. And then he didn't even acknowledge that I totally proved his case wrong and again says the same thing. Show nested quote +On February 28 2014 03:33 gumshoe wrote:
Also I would describe Jar Jar's play as mediocre at best, hes mostly just sheeped you. Then when I question him about it, he says he's not gonna talk to me cause I'm his #1 scumread.
I dont think you shut me down, your counter didnt convince me, you backed up suki purely because she was your scum partner, suki ignored your ridicules support because she was afraid asosciating with her scum buddy, only calling you out as townie when pressed. That looks like scum dynamic to me. We can talk but your just going to deny everything I say, because your scum, thats why I'll argue about it with others(players like Vivax might reveal himself by defending you), but I wont talk about it with you, cause your not going to give anything more than I already know.
Where did you get the name Jar from?
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On February 28 2014 04:56 Vivax wrote:Show nested quote +On February 28 2014 04:51 gumshoe wrote:On February 28 2014 04:45 Vivax wrote:On February 28 2014 04:34 gumshoe wrote:On February 28 2014 04:31 Vivax wrote:And with that I mean: How did you go from this So yeah, my scum team is primarily Suki and Jar, with Vivax in the wings(much sheep on the case against him) to this He is my number two scum read ( : big gap in between the two, what do you think the titan fall hype? Whats changed? I still think your all scum. You must be pretty desperate to be nitpicking this hard. Dude, there's one part in your case that doesn't assume JJD and suki are scum together:
I know Jar Jar to be a tunneller as town, he sticks to his reads, but this game hes bounced everywhere and several influential players have given him a pass on it. He starts fires where ever he can and hopes they catch. When they dont, he moves on until something sticks, but hes always willing to backtrack. In bluez light mafia, he bounced back between Oats , TOFU, TAA gemorpit, Vivax, jkirby, Corazon, tangeng, in efforts to get any one of them lynched, and I'm seeing the makings of that same capriciousness in this game.
Find me examples for the bolded, cause the hyperbole you use for him jumping around doesn't really reflect in his filter. He voted Chyz, then unvoted saying his posts looked townie. Now he's on your ass. That's all I gained from his filter and it doesn't look like he's jumping around like crazy like you say. Most of your case against JJD is something that could be used against you and your irrational certainty of Mocsta's alignment. Hes been on and off Moc, Me and Chyz and he just back traked on Suki as well. My irrational certainty of Mocsta is based off a games worth of experience with him together as scum, Jar's faith in Suki was based off one post and as the heat mounted onto her he forgoed her as well. Oh and that one piece of my case saying theyre not scum together is exactly why I would prefer to not lynch Suki before him or you. Shes still probally scum, and I'll gladly vote for her, I'm just making preferences clear. I've been on you, Moc, geript, WoS and whatnot. HF has been on another shitload of people. Rayn has been on another shitload of people. Are Toad and geript supertownie just cause they only bark at each other? It's an awful explanation for somebody being scum if you don't show HOW those switches have been scummy. And you won't know if those switches were scummy if you don't ask jarjar how he changed his mind on these subjects. Which would be the next step.
I have infered why he switches, he does so to help Suki and start fires, he backs off when hes scared of ascociating or when he thinks that person wont get lynched. I dont need him to tell me that and hes not going to tell me that.
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On February 28 2014 04:56 Vivax wrote:Show nested quote +On February 28 2014 04:51 gumshoe wrote:On February 28 2014 04:45 Vivax wrote:On February 28 2014 04:34 gumshoe wrote:On February 28 2014 04:31 Vivax wrote:And with that I mean: How did you go from this So yeah, my scum team is primarily Suki and Jar, with Vivax in the wings(much sheep on the case against him) to this He is my number two scum read ( : big gap in between the two, what do you think the titan fall hype? Whats changed? I still think your all scum. You must be pretty desperate to be nitpicking this hard. Dude, there's one part in your case that doesn't assume JJD and suki are scum together:
I know Jar Jar to be a tunneller as town, he sticks to his reads, but this game hes bounced everywhere and several influential players have given him a pass on it. He starts fires where ever he can and hopes they catch. When they dont, he moves on until something sticks, but hes always willing to backtrack. In bluez light mafia, he bounced back between Oats , TOFU, TAA gemorpit, Vivax, jkirby, Corazon, tangeng, in efforts to get any one of them lynched, and I'm seeing the makings of that same capriciousness in this game.
Find me examples for the bolded, cause the hyperbole you use for him jumping around doesn't really reflect in his filter. He voted Chyz, then unvoted saying his posts looked townie. Now he's on your ass. That's all I gained from his filter and it doesn't look like he's jumping around like crazy like you say. Most of your case against JJD is something that could be used against you and your irrational certainty of Mocsta's alignment. Hes been on and off Moc, Me and Chyz and he just back traked on Suki as well. My irrational certainty of Mocsta is based off a games worth of experience with him together as scum, Jar's faith in Suki was based off one post and as the heat mounted onto her he forgoed her as well. Oh and that one piece of my case saying theyre not scum together is exactly why I would prefer to not lynch Suki before him or you. Shes still probally scum, and I'll gladly vote for her, I'm just making preferences clear. I've been on you, Moc, geript, WoS and whatnot. HF has been on another shitload of people. Rayn has been on another shitload of people. Are Toad and geript supertownie just cause they only bark at each other? It's an awful explanation for somebody being scum if you don't show HOW those switches have been scummy. And you won't know if those switches were scummy if you don't ask jarjar how he changed his mind on these subjects. Which would be the next step.
Your scum, so lets rule you out, Rayn, Wos and Holy work through their suspiciouns via dialogue, backing off at times that make no sense, especially because they create most of thier own suspicions in the first place, unlike Jar who goes baah.
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On February 28 2014 05:16 JarJarDrinks wrote:Show nested quote +On February 28 2014 04:51 gumshoe wrote:
Hes been on and off Moc, Me and Chyz and he just back traked on Suki as well. My irrational certainty of Mocsta is based off a games worth of experience with him together as scum, Jar's faith in Suki was based off one post and as the heat mounted onto her he forgoed her as well. Oh and that one piece of my case saying theyre not scum together is exactly why I would prefer to not lynch Suki before him or you. Shes still probally scum, and I'll gladly vote for her, I'm just making preferences clear. Backtracked off what? The whole connection between suki and myself is a lie that you manufactured. Here, I'll again post what you keep ignoring Show nested quote +On February 27 2014 23:11 JarJarDrinks wrote:First off his case against me is garbage. He says things like I'm buddying to Suki even though he supposedly has us both as scum teammates. He selectively pulls quotes from my posts to make me look bad. Like he spends a ton of time talking about how I'm all in w/ suki On February 27 2014 11:05 gumshoe wrote:
I dont like Jar Jar, much of his style has been mostly determined by an uncanny devotion to Suki. On February 27 2014 11:05 gumshoe wrote:
From here on out, Jar mostly pushes me and Moc and at the foundation of this crusade is his staunch bilief in Suki. On February 27 2014 11:05 gumshoe wrote:
Later on he asserts his Suki read without proof. On February 27 2014 11:05 gumshoe wrote:
Also, despite Jar Jar buddying her to extreme lengths, Suki has not once mentioned him. On February 27 2014 11:05 gumshoe wrote:
For now I'll switch my vote onto Jar, because the dudes based his accusations against me on my undying love for Moc, while his loyalty to Suki, which has defined his play for more than mine to Moc, is more so questionable and pretty much unexplained. That's alll from his case against me. I think he mentioned suki more in that one post then I have the entire thread. All I said about her was how I thought Moc made a bad case against her and then later on when Moc asked me what I thought about her I said she read town to me.
All aboard the shitty town read train!
, don't like mocsta claiming suki looks scummy for an "overly worded [claim]"
Saying everyone else was acting carefree while suki was trying extra hard seems like total BS. In fact I thought the exact opposite. I felt like suki seemed pretty relaxed while guys like WoS and Geript were trying extra hard to look playful.
But actually, I'm starting to come around on you being town because I feel like gumshoe is using you to try and get suki lynched.
I think my statement is pretty self explainitory. I think it's scummy that gumshoe sheeped mocstas terrible case. Nothing cryptic about it.
The suki case was bad.
Suki reads very town to me.
and eventually when it looks kinda like Suki is going to be lynched.
I'm starting to suspect that suki may be GSs scumbuddy
You start distancing yourself. You abandon your game long town read on Suki on the basis that you think I bussed my team mate right off the bat. This theory is dumb, it assumes I am utterly incompetent and the only reason I can imagine you abandoning Suki for it is if you know shes going to flip scum, and your trying to discard your relation with her as quickly as possible. What more the positioning of this post makes suki being scum imply that I'm scum as opposed to you bieng scum, which is exactly what I would do if I was worried about being brought down along with her. Also if I'm lynched , youve set it up so that suki looks town, because you scum read her purely based off your read of me.
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On February 28 2014 05:24 JarJarDrinks wrote:Show nested quote +On February 28 2014 05:12 Vivax wrote:
JarJar is there anything in gumshoe's play that suggests to you that you're dealing with scum as opposed to a bad townie?
I'm curious cause not everyone posting a bad case on you has to be scum, if you could post some reasons outside of his case on you it would be great (or point me to them).
are you reading my cases? He's actively making stuff up. He's not just making a bad case on me. He's twisting things to make his case. He's acting just like he was in GSL where he pretended to be so confident about mattchew. I already posted 2 examples where his play there mirrors his play here: Show nested quote +On February 27 2014 23:14 JarJarDrinks wrote:On February 27 2014 23:11 JarJarDrinks wrote:I also think his townread on moc is just too disingenuous. He townread him real early in the game for terrible reasons and now he's basically treating him as confirmed town: On February 27 2014 09:26 gumshoe wrote:On February 27 2014 09:25 Vivax wrote:On February 27 2014 09:24 gumshoe wrote:On February 27 2014 09:20 Vivax wrote:
That post kinda makes me more confident that he's scum. He doesn't fight back. Opposite for me ) : Mocsta would be a lot more spiteful here as scum, shit like "lol, this town sucks" here he just sounds sad, first time he roles town in ages and hes day 1 lynched. Wat³ You heard me, all in, Mocsta is town. He just can't possibly be that confident. And like, if you look @ GSL, he gave off that same air of confidence w/ his scumread on Mattchew. It may be a townread vs a scumread but he comes off very similiar. And that was scumread vs townread. Now it's scumread vs scumread. He obviously can't be as confident against me as he's pretending to be because of how bad the case is. And the 2nd example: Show nested quote +On February 27 2014 23:16 JarJarDrinks wrote:More similarities between GSL and this game On February 27 2014 12:20 gumshoe wrote:On February 27 2014 12:18 JarJarDrinks wrote:On February 27 2014 12:16 gumshoe wrote:On February 27 2014 12:11 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Also gumshoe has no fucking idea what he is talking about when he is talking about Mocsta's play in GSL IV. We played pretty normally on D1. Only after our fucking scumteam decided to lurk the shit out of the game and half of the town did the same thing we decided the game was boring and started posting shit, Mocsta scumclaimed etc. The last game has nothing to do with Mocsta's meta because the game was shit and we were bored. Mocsta has never ever played like that game as mafia and he probably never will. gumshoe makes an argument. JJD answers the argument. gumshoe asks him to elaborate more on his answer. JJD proves his statement. gumshoe says "no that was not my argument, in fact it was this (something else)". That makes absolutely no sense. I never changed my argument, point out how I did, I just realized that Mocsta taking back his case doesn't change anything. Then why did you ask me to find the post? Cause I couldnt, didnt really matter to me anyways, I just like to make you work on something other than destroying town and murdering its babies. On February 22 2014 02:56 gumshoe wrote:
I did nothing but attack scum until Vivax raised a case against me, which is pretty much what I do every game that I dont uber lurk. I do play and think a bit "odd" and players both green and red usually pass that behaviour off as scummy. If you Vivax and everyone else start finding "unexplainable" motives here and there(as one enthuastic townie once said about my posts) theres not much I can do but sincerely ask you to reconsider ) : I'm not scum and from my view point, however skewed it might be, I've communicated that through my actions. I assure you I have a fantastic lurker meta to fall back on should I ever roll red, but thats not where I'm at this game, and it'll piss me off to no end if I get mislynched and am forced to imagine Matt's laughter roll across the vaulted ceilings of his super secret scum layer.
Look up my case on thrawn in a quit game of mini mafia, It's almost identical to my case on you and I made it as town, the only difference here is that I'm right this time : P
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On February 28 2014 05:39 JarJarDrinks wrote:Show nested quote +On February 28 2014 05:29 gumshoe wrote:All aboard the shitty town read train! , don't like mocsta claiming suki looks scummy for an "overly worded [claim]"
Saying everyone else was acting carefree while suki was trying extra hard seems like total BS. In fact I thought the exact opposite. I felt like suki seemed pretty relaxed while guys like WoS and Geript were trying extra hard to look playful. But actually, I'm starting to come around on you being town because I feel like gumshoe is using you to try and get suki lynched. I think my statement is pretty self explainitory. I think it's scummy that gumshoe sheeped mocstas terrible case. Nothing cryptic about it.
The suki case was bad. Suki reads very town to me. And those four posts (the first 3 of which are all basically the same thing) is enough to make you say: Show nested quote +On February 27 2014 11:05 gumshoe wrote:
I dont like Jar Jar, much of his style has been mostly determined by an uncanny devotion to Suki. ??? And you still haven't answered this: Show nested quote +On February 28 2014 03:39 JarJarDrinks wrote:On February 28 2014 03:33 gumshoe wrote:
Also I would describe Jar Jar's play as mediocre at best, hes mostly just sheeped you. Citation needed Please explain.
Suki poked away at Chyz before you, Moc and me were pretty much her scum reads. You accusations line up perfectly with hers, or are rooted in the bilief shes town.
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On February 28 2014 05:41 JarJarDrinks wrote:Show nested quote +On February 28 2014 05:29 gumshoe wrote:and eventually when it looks kinda like Suki is going to be lynched.I'm starting to suspect that suki may be GSs scumbuddy OK you're making up lies again. Please explain how it looked like Suki was gonna get lynched. She had ONE vote on her @ that time I believe.
She was under fire from holy, wos, me rayn and to a lesser extent moc, several players highly capable of putting a lynch on her. Also as scum it's your job to spot trends and run ahead of them, of course you would choose to flip flop on Suki before she becomes public enemy number one.
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On February 28 2014 05:55 JarJarDrinks wrote:Show nested quote +On February 28 2014 05:43 gumshoe wrote:On February 28 2014 05:39 JarJarDrinks wrote:And you still haven't answered this: On February 28 2014 03:39 JarJarDrinks wrote:On February 28 2014 03:33 gumshoe wrote:
Also I would describe Jar Jar's play as mediocre at best, hes mostly just sheeped you. Citation needed Please explain. Suki poked away at Chyz before you, Moc and me were pretty much her scum reads. You accusations line up perfectly with hers, or are rooted in the bilief shes town. OK first off I'm pretty sure you're wrong and I was on Chyz first. But even if I wasn't, there was several other people on him. Why would you say I sheeped her specifically? And how does that 1 incident equate to "Also I would describe Jar Jar's play as mediocre at best, hes mostly just sheeped you.". And again, don't just say stuff. Please post examples. Because I think ur wrong that she was on chyz first.
Suki
TheChyz are you going to say anything else or just come in and randomly townread Mocsta?
February 26 2014 11:09. Posts 1142
I'm heading to bed. Mocsta is still my #1, I don't like TheChyz dodging my question and just sort of actively lurking.
February 26 2014 12:12.
Jar jar
Suki reads very town to me.
Chyz does actually read very scummy to me after a reread. Few things I don't like:
- Like gumshoe, he called you town early when I don't think you were acting townish @ all.
- He sheeped geripts case on me and while I think geript legit misread my post, it kinda felt like chyz was being opportunistic
- I agree w/ the notion that someone acting scummy does not automatically make that person a scumread. But the way he worded it
February 26 2014 22:50.
Your reads align with Suki's, you think Suki is town. There is undeniably a connection here, wether your just sheeping her or your both scum, regardless pretty sure your scum.
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On February 28 2014 05:55 JarJarDrinks wrote:Show nested quote +On February 28 2014 05:43 gumshoe wrote:On February 28 2014 05:39 JarJarDrinks wrote:And you still haven't answered this: On February 28 2014 03:39 JarJarDrinks wrote:On February 28 2014 03:33 gumshoe wrote:
Also I would describe Jar Jar's play as mediocre at best, hes mostly just sheeped you. Citation needed Please explain. Suki poked away at Chyz before you, Moc and me were pretty much her scum reads. You accusations line up perfectly with hers, or are rooted in the bilief shes town. OK first off I'm pretty sure you're wrong and I was on Chyz first. But even if I wasn't, there was several other people on him. Why would you say I sheeped her specifically? And how does that 1 incident equate to "Also I would describe Jar Jar's play as mediocre at best, hes mostly just sheeped you.". And again, don't just say stuff. Please post examples. Because I think ur wrong that she was on chyz first.
I dont find jumping on safe cases(me, chyz, moc) and giving out an unsubstantiated town read to be exemplary play, the fact that Suki does is bads.
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On February 28 2014 06:03 WaveofShadow wrote:Show nested quote +On February 28 2014 03:36 JarJarDrinks wrote:Summary of my gumshoe case since I didn't get many responses and he's ignored it and is again spouting the same nonsense: On February 27 2014 23:11 JarJarDrinks wrote:##vote GumshoeFirst off his case against me is garbage. He says things like I'm buddying to Suki even though he supposedly has us both as scum teammates. He selectively pulls quotes from my posts to make me look bad. Like he spends a ton of time talking about how I'm all in w/ suki On February 27 2014 11:05 gumshoe wrote:
I dont like Jar Jar, much of his style has been mostly determined by an uncanny devotion to Suki. On February 27 2014 11:05 gumshoe wrote:
From here on out, Jar mostly pushes me and Moc and at the foundation of this crusade is his staunch bilief in Suki. On February 27 2014 11:05 gumshoe wrote:
Later on he asserts his Suki read without proof. On February 27 2014 11:05 gumshoe wrote:
Also, despite Jar Jar buddying her to extreme lengths, Suki has not once mentioned him. On February 27 2014 11:05 gumshoe wrote:
For now I'll switch my vote onto Jar, because the dudes based his accusations against me on my undying love for Moc, while his loyalty to Suki, which has defined his play for more than mine to Moc, is more so questionable and pretty much unexplained. That's alll from his case against me. I think he mentioned suki more in that one post then I have the entire thread. All I said about her was how I thought Moc made a bad case against her and then later on when Moc asked me what I thought about her I said she read town to me. Gumshoe is completely misrepresenting my play. Read my filter and tell me if you think "much of [My] style has been mostly determined by an uncanny devotion to Suki." It's a total horseshit case. I also think his townread on moc is just too disingenuous. He townread him real early in the game for terrible reasons and now he's basically treating him as confirmed town: On February 27 2014 09:26 gumshoe wrote:On February 27 2014 09:25 Vivax wrote:On February 27 2014 09:24 gumshoe wrote:On February 27 2014 09:20 Vivax wrote:
That post kinda makes me more confident that he's scum. He doesn't fight back. Opposite for me ) : Mocsta would be a lot more spiteful here as scum, shit like "lol, this town sucks" here he just sounds sad, first time he roles town in ages and hes day 1 lynched. Wat³ You heard me, all in, Mocsta is town. He just can't possibly be that confident. On February 27 2014 23:14 JarJarDrinks wrote:On February 27 2014 23:11 JarJarDrinks wrote:I also think his townread on moc is just too disingenuous. He townread him real early in the game for terrible reasons and now he's basically treating him as confirmed town: On February 27 2014 09:26 gumshoe wrote:On February 27 2014 09:25 Vivax wrote:On February 27 2014 09:24 gumshoe wrote:On February 27 2014 09:20 Vivax wrote:
That post kinda makes me more confident that he's scum. He doesn't fight back. Opposite for me ) : Mocsta would be a lot more spiteful here as scum, shit like "lol, this town sucks" here he just sounds sad, first time he roles town in ages and hes day 1 lynched. Wat³ You heard me, all in, Mocsta is town. He just can't possibly be that confident. And like, if you look @ GSL, he gave off that same air of confidence w/ his scumread on Mattchew. It may be a townread vs a scumread but he comes off very similiar. On February 27 2014 23:16 JarJarDrinks wrote:More similarities between GSL and this game On February 27 2014 12:20 gumshoe wrote:On February 27 2014 12:18 JarJarDrinks wrote:On February 27 2014 12:16 gumshoe wrote:On February 27 2014 12:11 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Also gumshoe has no fucking idea what he is talking about when he is talking about Mocsta's play in GSL IV. We played pretty normally on D1. Only after our fucking scumteam decided to lurk the shit out of the game and half of the town did the same thing we decided the game was boring and started posting shit, Mocsta scumclaimed etc. The last game has nothing to do with Mocsta's meta because the game was shit and we were bored. Mocsta has never ever played like that game as mafia and he probably never will. gumshoe makes an argument. JJD answers the argument. gumshoe asks him to elaborate more on his answer. JJD proves his statement. gumshoe says "no that was not my argument, in fact it was this (something else)". That makes absolutely no sense. I never changed my argument, point out how I did, I just realized that Mocsta taking back his case doesn't change anything. Then why did you ask me to find the post? Cause I couldnt, didnt really matter to me anyways, I just like to make you work on something other than destroying town and murdering its babies. On February 22 2014 02:56 gumshoe wrote:
I did nothing but attack scum until Vivax raised a case against me, which is pretty much what I do every game that I dont uber lurk. I do play and think a bit "odd" and players both green and red usually pass that behaviour off as scummy. If you Vivax and everyone else start finding "unexplainable" motives here and there(as one enthuastic townie once said about my posts) theres not much I can do but sincerely ask you to reconsider ) : I'm not scum and from my view point, however skewed it might be, I've communicated that through my actions. I assure you I have a fantastic lurker meta to fall back on should I ever roll red, but thats not where I'm at this game, and it'll piss me off to no end if I get mislynched and am forced to imagine Matt's laughter roll across the vaulted ceilings of his super secret scum layer. Off the bat JJD I disagree. I've seen gumshoe as confident as you say he can't possibly be---and then you say his confidence is similar to GSL in which he was scum? I believe it was Persona (fucking horrible game for me) where he was just as confident and was town. You're contradicting yourself as well if you're saying he couldn't be this confident as town and then point out his high confidence in a scumgame. And what you're calling misrepresenting doesn't really have much of a scum agenda behind it imo. I think there's a little too much preflip association as well going on between the two of you, especially from gumshoe's side and it's bad---reeks more of confirmation bias than anything to me. I'm not ruling out the possibility that either one of you is scum right now, but based on what I've seen I don't think I'd be remiss to think this could very well be town-on-town. In either case I am not convinced to vote either of you one way or another, and I highly doubt anyone else will be at this point.
Oks, I'm totes fine with lynching Suki after this, I'm starting to suspect that suki may be GSs scumbuddy. It would explain why Gumshoe is trying to paint me in such a bad light for giving her a townread .
Makes me feel pretty certain that Jar was prepping for a red flip on Suki, so yeah I am now confident thier scum together( as opposed to Jar just sheeping her because he knows shes town) and after we lynch suki I can always get Jar via association.
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On February 28 2014 06:05 JarJarDrinks wrote:Show nested quote +On February 28 2014 05:46 gumshoe wrote:
Also as scum it's your job to spot trends and run ahead of them, of course you would choose to flip flop on Suki before she becomes public enemy number one. And again you're misrepresenting things. You're making it look like all of a sudden suki became a top scumread of mine. All I said was I was starting to suspect she was your scumbuddy. It's like I'm pushing for her to be lynched.
You dont have many reads Jar, so when you back up on one and call it scummy, I take it as a top scum pick. You feeling the need to give any quarter on Suki whatsoever and present a silly bus case to make me somehow look bad after she flips red is what looks scummy to me here, I dont feel like I'm misrepresenting anything at all. But whateves, you can run free for a bit, I'll just come back to you after Suki ( :
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On February 28 2014 06:12 Vivax wrote:
I want to know why you swallow the claim so easily since I've been your top scumread.
Well I bloody dont, you saying I'm blue means nothing, it's like saying I'm town. In fact by bringing it up so vaugely, you force others potential blues to step in to fight you. Whats more scum might not even shoot you tonight, they could just leave you alone and hope we mislynch you cause you dont die. This claim says absolutely nothing about your alignment, because you either die or get "role blocked' here on out.
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