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On February 28 2014 06:11 gumshoe wrote:
You dont have many reads Jar, so when you back up on one and call it scummy I don't have many reads? Well I guess you think I'm town then:On February 27 2014 11:05 gumshoe wrote:
I know Jar Jar to be a tunneller as town, he sticks to his reads, but this game hes bounced everywhere and several influential players have given him a pass on it. He starts fires where ever he can and hopes they catch. When they dont, he moves on until something sticks, but hes always willing to backtrack. In bluez light mafia, he bounced back between Oats , TOFU, TAA gemorpit, Vivax, jkirby, Corazon, tangeng, in efforts to get any one of them lynched, and I'm seeing the makings of that same capriciousness in this game. I thought I was scummy because I had too many reads?
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On February 28 2014 06:17 WaveofShadow wrote:
LET'S GO PEOPLE, I WANT INPUT ON VIVAX> Well I didn't think he was scum before the claim so not much to add about my own read. I will say that I don't get how anyone that thought he was scum before would drop their read simply because he claimed blue.
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On February 28 2014 06:25 WaveofShadow wrote:Show nested quote +On February 28 2014 06:23 JarJarDrinks wrote:On February 28 2014 06:17 WaveofShadow wrote:
LET'S GO PEOPLE, I WANT INPUT ON VIVAX> Well I didn't think he was scum before the claim so not much to add about my own read. I will say that I don't get how anyone that thought he was scum before would drop their read simply because he claimed blue. Do you think it was necessary for him to claim blue when he did? Why did you think he was town, JJD?
Assumming he is blue I think the timing was ok. It does seem like he does have a good chance of being lynched and making the claim well before the deadline helps make sure we aren't scrambling last minute.
I've said all game that he's null for me, slightly leaning town because of associations. I just haven't thougt the stuff he's been accussed of is scummy like people were making it out to be.
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On February 28 2014 06:34 Vivax wrote:
Vote mocsta bitches. If scum wanted to push a lynch on mocsta they'd be doing that and not leaving him untouched all this fucking time. I still feel like gumshoe scumslipped that moc was town
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On February 28 2014 06:43 Ange777 wrote:
Can you explain where gumshoe supposedly scumslipped? On February 27 2014 09:50 JarJarDrinks wrote:Show nested quote +On February 27 2014 09:26 gumshoe wrote:On February 27 2014 09:25 Vivax wrote:On February 27 2014 09:24 gumshoe wrote:On February 27 2014 09:20 Vivax wrote:
That post kinda makes me more confident that he's scum. He doesn't fight back. Opposite for me ) : Mocsta would be a lot more spiteful here as scum, shit like "lol, this town sucks" here he just sounds sad, first time he roles town in ages and hes day 1 lynched. Wat³ You heard me, all in, Mocsta is town. OK. This really seems like a scumslip and then Phony confidence to cover it up.
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##Unvote
##Vote Mocsta
Prob have to go in a few but will be on before the deadline. Not crazy about it but better than a suki lynch methinks.
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On February 28 2014 06:54 WaveofShadow wrote:
again if he's telling the truth. He's telling the truth. Vig is the worst role to fakeclaim cause if there's a real vig he gets shot @ night.
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On February 28 2014 08:27 Cavalinho wrote:
Fair enough.
I'm still not entirely sure why rayn and HolyFlare think suki is scummy. The only reason I'm this indecisive is that if my strongest townreads are jumping to take her out, then there might be something to it. I don't see it, and the only people I really want to vote for have almost no votes on them. I think JJD's filter shows that he's trying to contribute, but he's only arguing around in a circle with everyone else.
I think I'm going to have to trust my townreads on this one. ##Vote suki can we lynch this guy?
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On February 28 2014 08:44 suki wrote:
Ok what the hell guys, why is there suddenly a bandwagon on me? Yeah. Bandwagon formed way too quick for suki to be scum.
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On February 28 2014 16:55 Mocsta wrote:So I'm really conflicted on JJD. On one hand I find this relatively townie in a CB type of way. Show nested quote +On February 28 2014 00:36 JarJarDrinks wrote:On February 28 2014 00:09 Mocsta wrote: I was wondering whetherh you disappeared or chose to ignore my comment about Thrawn/Shoe. Guess its the latter Sorry, Didn't really see that as a question @ first On February 27 2014 23:16 Mocsta wrote:
I think the real question should be whether scum gumshoe has any value to insert me as a town read at that point in time. You could argue he used me as a platform to leap onto Suki, but did this really go anywhere? Well my answer u probably wont like because it involves pre-flip association but here goes: I'm starting to suspect that suki may be GSs scumbuddy. It would explain why Gumshoe is trying to paint me in such a bad light for giving her a townread. It also explains his entry into the thead. Like Maybe he sees you jump on her for her posting style and he's all like "Fuck, she's caught already. Lemme go bus a little to try to get something out of this." Like I already pointed out (and you sorta agreed to), your case wasnt very good. And also as you said, nothing seemed to come of it. He threw a vote on her when no one else was voting her and took it off pretty quickly. Note the votecount just before this post + Show Spoiler +On February 27 2014 23:57 Aquanim wrote:
Votecount
Mocsta (2) - suki, Holyflare, raynpelikoneet, Vivax, Toadesstern
geript (1) - Toadesstern, TheChyz
TheChyz (1) - raynpelikoneet, Mocsta, JarJarDrinks, Cavalinho, suki
Toadesstern (1) - Geript, Geript
JarJarDrinks (0) - Geript
gumshoe (1) - WaveofShadow, Mocsta, JarJarDrinks
WaveofShadow (0) - raynpelikoneet, Vivax
suki (2) - WaveofShadow, Gumshoe, Holyflare, raynpelikoneet
Vivax (3) - WaveofShadow, raynpelikoneet, Mocsta, suki
Not Voting - Ange777, Cavalinho Vivax was under pressure at the time, not Suki. Given the back/forth between JJD/GS at the time, this comment seemed contextually natural.
FYI that votecount was wrong and gumshoe was on me not suki.
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On February 28 2014 08:52 TheChyz wrote:
No I don't. The moment he sayed it he already sounded arrogant as if he was untouchable (which he probably is). He is also willing to shoot anybody who argues with him and pisses him off is really stupid imo. Would rather mislynch even if he is vig than mislynch some townie and have him shoot a townie because of him ego.
On February 28 2014 08:53 TheChyz wrote:Show nested quote +On February 28 2014 08:49 Cavalinho wrote:
See, this is what I was talking about. Every time she showed up, she contributed and made solid posts and analysis on other players. The second she disappears people think she is scummy.
HolyFlare, is there anyone else you'd be particularly satisfied to vote for? I think suki is town, and Mocsta is probably the better lynch between the two. And yet your vote is in suki.......?
On February 28 2014 08:56 TheChyz wrote:Show nested quote +On February 28 2014 08:55 Cavalinho wrote:On February 28 2014 08:53 TheChyz wrote:On February 28 2014 08:49 Cavalinho wrote:
See, this is what I was talking about. Every time she showed up, she contributed and made solid posts and analysis on other players. The second she disappears people think she is scummy.
HolyFlare, is there anyone else you'd be particularly satisfied to vote for? I think suki is town, and Mocsta is probably the better lynch between the two. And yet your vote is in suki.......? Go reread. I'm not going to bother explaining things to you if you aren't diving my incredibly short filter. ##Unvote##vote Mocsta I know why you voted for her, and its complete garbage the case you make. You basically said that your going to vote a town read who you think is supplying good analysis to the game just because some other of your town reads are voting her. ROFL what a joke
I think these posts make chyz look pretty bad. He's telling us how he wants to lynch suki. Yet he's basically convincing Cav to switch off her. And more importantly, HE NEVER VOTES. He's basically a no-vote even though he's around @ the deadline.
Like he says "Well I wouldn't mind you or suki getting lynched if I had no choice in the matter. So if it comes to it last minute that somebody other than you three is going to get lynched and I'm able to lynch one of you, I probably will" And he even quotes it himself. But then when Cav switched to tie the vote he didn't do what he said he'd do. He left the door wide open for moc to get lynched because me and vivax were trying to orchestrate a switch for the town. Like you would think he'd see people trying to move votes off suk and then he'd do what he said he'd do.
On February 28 2014 09:00 Aquanim wrote:
Final Votecount
Mocsta (5) - suki, Holyflare, raynpelikoneet, Vivax, Toadesstern, Toadesstern, JarJarDrinks, suki, Cavalinho
geript (1) - Toadesstern, TheChyz, Toadesstern
TheChyz (1) - raynpelikoneet, Mocsta, JarJarDrinks, Cavalinho, suki, suki
Toadesstern (1) - Geript, Geript
JarJarDrinks (0) - Geript, Gumshoe
gumshoe (0) - WaveofShadow, Mocsta, JarJarDrinks
WaveofShadow (0) - raynpelikoneet, Vivax
suki (5) - WaveofShadow, Gumshoe, Holyflare, raynpelikoneet, raynpelikoneet, Gumshoe, WaveofShadow, Ange777,
Vivax (1) - WaveofShadow, raynpelikoneet, Mocsta, suki
And the clincher is he tries to take credit for the lynch. What does he mean by he's glad he didn't cave? Cave to what. He never implied that he wanted to lynch mocsta.
On February 28 2014 09:07 TheChyz wrote:Wow I was worried my read was wrong. Glad I didnt cave 
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And IDK what to say about Gumshoe. I'm a little less sure about him now but I really feel like he orchestrated evrything and was setting me up for sukis flip well before the fact.
Yes he voted for her but what choice did he have after vivax claims? He couldn't vote for moc after he had been pushing me, vivax and suki forever not to mention the fact that he was screaming to high heavens that Moc was town.
In fact the only other choice he had was to say that he didn't believe vivaxs' claim which he tried super hard to do untill it was clear that the town wasn't having it.
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more similairities between this game GSL
On February 28 2014 11:59 gumshoe wrote:
At the very least, I think I've earned the right to see Jar Jar die before me and even if I am scum, the sooner he flips the sooner you can kill me for my retarded red play ( :
On February 21 2014 12:23 gumshoe wrote:
Im pretty much betting everything on this Matt lynch, if it fails, I am almost entirely to blame and I expect my head to roll shortly after his.
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On March 01 2014 00:26 gumshoe wrote:
If Jar isnt actually scum though, please kill me, I'll deserve to die at that point Yep, see my previous post.
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And the other the other thing about GSL is how he always added his scumbuddy mordanis in his scumreads. The difference there was mord wasnt in danger of being lynched so he never had to vote for him.
Like, I think it's pretty obvious that if the 2 wagons yesterday ended up being vivax and suki, he would have voted vivax.
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On March 01 2014 01:09 gumshoe wrote:Show nested quote +On March 01 2014 01:04 Vivax wrote:
Or do you guys really want to assume that suki cannot have been bussed? Yes, we should be assuming that. Any one of the five people could have saved thier gf and didnt. Except you. You absolutely could not have saved suki because you had to vote your scumread and sure as heck couldn't vote for Moc.
like Ang called moc and suki both scummy earlier so it wouldn't have been that suspicious. And no one else had a super town read on moc like you claimed to have.
So when you say "Any one of the five people could have saved thier gf and didnt" what you mean is "Any one of the five people except me could have saved thier gf and didnt"
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On March 01 2014 01:31 Vivax wrote:
JJD who is your second scumread atm? Chyz. Case here:+ Show Spoiler +On March 01 2014 00:01 JarJarDrinks wrote:Show nested quote +On February 28 2014 08:52 TheChyz wrote:
No I don't. The moment he sayed it he already sounded arrogant as if he was untouchable (which he probably is). He is also willing to shoot anybody who argues with him and pisses him off is really stupid imo. Would rather mislynch even if he is vig than mislynch some townie and have him shoot a townie because of him ego. Show nested quote +On February 28 2014 08:53 TheChyz wrote:On February 28 2014 08:49 Cavalinho wrote:
See, this is what I was talking about. Every time she showed up, she contributed and made solid posts and analysis on other players. The second she disappears people think she is scummy.
HolyFlare, is there anyone else you'd be particularly satisfied to vote for? I think suki is town, and Mocsta is probably the better lynch between the two. And yet your vote is in suki.......? Show nested quote +On February 28 2014 08:56 TheChyz wrote:On February 28 2014 08:55 Cavalinho wrote:On February 28 2014 08:53 TheChyz wrote:On February 28 2014 08:49 Cavalinho wrote:
See, this is what I was talking about. Every time she showed up, she contributed and made solid posts and analysis on other players. The second she disappears people think she is scummy.
HolyFlare, is there anyone else you'd be particularly satisfied to vote for? I think suki is town, and Mocsta is probably the better lynch between the two. And yet your vote is in suki.......? Go reread. I'm not going to bother explaining things to you if you aren't diving my incredibly short filter. ##Unvote##vote Mocsta I know why you voted for her, and its complete garbage the case you make. You basically said that your going to vote a town read who you think is supplying good analysis to the game just because some other of your town reads are voting her. ROFL what a joke I think these posts make chyz look pretty bad. He's telling us how he wants to lynch suki. Yet he's basically convincing Cav to switch off her. And more importantly, HE NEVER VOTES. He's basically a no-vote even though he's around @ the deadline. Like he says "Well I wouldn't mind you or suki getting lynched if I had no choice in the matter. So if it comes to it last minute that somebody other than you three is going to get lynched and I'm able to lynch one of you, I probably will" And he even quotes it himself. But then when Cav switched to tie the vote he didn't do what he said he'd do. He left the door wide open for moc to get lynched because me and vivax were trying to orchestrate a switch for the town. Like you would think he'd see people trying to move votes off suk and then he'd do what he said he'd do. Show nested quote +On February 28 2014 09:00 Aquanim wrote:
Final Votecount
Mocsta (5) - suki, Holyflare, raynpelikoneet, Vivax, Toadesstern, Toadesstern, JarJarDrinks, suki, Cavalinho
geript (1) - Toadesstern, TheChyz, Toadesstern
TheChyz (1) - raynpelikoneet, Mocsta, JarJarDrinks, Cavalinho, suki, suki
Toadesstern (1) - Geript, Geript
JarJarDrinks (0) - Geript, Gumshoe
gumshoe (0) - WaveofShadow, Mocsta, JarJarDrinks
WaveofShadow (0) - raynpelikoneet, Vivax
suki (5) - WaveofShadow, Gumshoe, Holyflare, raynpelikoneet, raynpelikoneet, Gumshoe, WaveofShadow, Ange777,
Vivax (1) - WaveofShadow, raynpelikoneet, Mocsta, suki
And the clincher is he tries to take credit for the lynch. What does he mean by he's glad he didn't cave? Cave to what. He never implied that he wanted to lynch mocsta. Show nested quote +On February 28 2014 09:07 TheChyz wrote:Wow I was worried my read was wrong. Glad I didnt cave
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On March 01 2014 01:38 Vivax wrote:
And why didn't he save suki in your opinion? He was the guy who had the ultimate decision and he refused to give in to cavalinho.
What about suki calling him scummy after her case on moc? IDK, he was afraid how it'd make him look? These are good points. But I just don't get why he doesn't cast a vote. Like, there's no town reason for it.
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On March 01 2014 07:43 Cavalinho wrote:
I still think JJD is a good kill. I said it yesterday, and I stand by it now. I highly doubt a shot will go off. Gumshoe basically told us they were gonna RB vivax tonight.
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