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geript
Profile Joined February 2013
10024 Posts
February 26 2014 01:45 GMT
#341
On February 26 2014 10:43 Toadesstern wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 26 2014 10:42 geript wrote:
Yup, I'm happy with my vote.

so you knew about it but still came to the conclusion that the read is weird? Explain.

##vote geript

Lets rolls this back a second. What about how I explained finding your read on Rayn was weird isn't making sense to you?
WaveofShadow
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada31495 Posts
February 26 2014 01:45 GMT
#342
On February 26 2014 10:44 Mocsta wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 26 2014 10:16 Toadesstern wrote:
actually screw what I just said, this trolling shit sucks so let's get down to serious business, we have something to talk about and everyone's ignoring it.

WoS/Holy I know you to are fairly smart, smart enough to answer the following question. What do you make of the conversation between Rayn, geript and me? I want to get some input on that from some more people.
Should help me figure out if you guys are reading
Show nested quote +
On February 26 2014 10:40 gumshoe wrote:
I feel it's important to note that Toads just come off a pretty brutal loss in default, he was outed as the mafia godfather night 1 and I cant help but suspect that either way, that blow will influence his play. The tone switch in this post is noteworthy, he played out the start pretty lightly (in contrast to default where he was somewhat tense throughout) and he feels the need to 'snap' out of it. Feels slightly odd, like hes trying to let us know that hes acting natural, but is intent on winning.
The irony of that post is it caught a scum in a recent game I played but I cant remember whom.

I think it was Holyflare? In hogwarts, he said the same thing: town is on the wrong track and let me get it back on the right track.
Syllo called him out rightfully for this. Nice pick up. I suppose we see what eventuates out of his Geript post.

as an aside:
I am really iffy about Wave, but cant tell if I am reading him negatively out of prejudice or not.
Wave
What is your actual issue with my play so far?

I didn't really have one until this post.
Where do you see that I have taken issue with your play?
That's really fucking weird, Mocsta.
twitch.tv/waveofshadow ||| Winner of AHGL's So You Think You Can Cast! ||| Juicy Dad for lyfe ||| 'idk i get a kick out of stupid things' - Jarms Yarng
Toadesstern
Profile Blog Joined October 2008
Germany16350 Posts
February 26 2014 01:45 GMT
#343
On February 26 2014 10:43 WaveofShadow wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 26 2014 10:40 gumshoe wrote:
On February 26 2014 10:16 Toadesstern wrote:
actually screw what I just said, this trolling shit sucks so let's get down to serious business, we have something to talk about and everyone's ignoring it.

WoS/Holy I know you to are fairly smart, smart enough to answer the following question. What do you make of the conversation between Rayn, geript and me? I want to get some input on that from some more people.
Should help me figure out if you guys are reading


I feel it's important to note that Toads just come off a pretty brutal loss in default, he was outed as the mafia godfather night 1 and I cant help but suspect that either way, that blow will influence his play. The tone switch in this post is noteworthy, he played out the start pretty lightly (in contrast to default where he was somewhat tense throughout) and he feels the need to 'snap' out of it. Feels slightly odd, like hes trying to let us know that hes acting natural, but is intent on winning.

This reads exactly like your post on Mocsta and I don't like it. Do you always base your reads entirely on their most recent game? (Speaking of which, don't talk about ongoing games).

Toad I actually did follow Geript's thought process to some degree.
And I actually had no idea about the miller stuff until you just mentioned it.

If you're sticking around Toad I can discuss with you a little.


yeah sure I'll stick around for another 30 minutes or so I think, still need to watch another episode of nisekoi
<Elem> >toad in charge of judging lewdness <Elem> how bad can it be <Elem> also wew, that is actually p lewd.
suki
Profile Joined August 2009
Canada1159 Posts
February 26 2014 01:46 GMT
#344
I didn't really understand why toad and rayn called each other town, but it didn't strike me as completely odd. Certainly not scummy.

Hmm Toad just replied with reasoning let me see.

Does anyone really think either mafia-Rayn or mafia-Toad would pass up on this chance to call the other one a retard? I don't think so.


This is pretty much toad's reasoning on why rayn is town, pretty much a meta read. Which means nothing to me so I'll just wait for them to contribute more before coming to any conclusions.

WaveofShadow
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada31495 Posts
February 26 2014 01:46 GMT
#345
On February 26 2014 10:45 Toadesstern wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 26 2014 10:43 WaveofShadow wrote:
On February 26 2014 10:40 gumshoe wrote:
On February 26 2014 10:16 Toadesstern wrote:
actually screw what I just said, this trolling shit sucks so let's get down to serious business, we have something to talk about and everyone's ignoring it.

WoS/Holy I know you to are fairly smart, smart enough to answer the following question. What do you make of the conversation between Rayn, geript and me? I want to get some input on that from some more people.
Should help me figure out if you guys are reading


I feel it's important to note that Toads just come off a pretty brutal loss in default, he was outed as the mafia godfather night 1 and I cant help but suspect that either way, that blow will influence his play. The tone switch in this post is noteworthy, he played out the start pretty lightly (in contrast to default where he was somewhat tense throughout) and he feels the need to 'snap' out of it. Feels slightly odd, like hes trying to let us know that hes acting natural, but is intent on winning.

This reads exactly like your post on Mocsta and I don't like it. Do you always base your reads entirely on their most recent game? (Speaking of which, don't talk about ongoing games).

Toad I actually did follow Geript's thought process to some degree.
And I actually had no idea about the miller stuff until you just mentioned it.

If you're sticking around Toad I can discuss with you a little.


yeah sure I'll stick around for another 30 minutes or so I think, still need to watch another episode of nisekoi

Will there be gifs?

twitch.tv/waveofshadow ||| Winner of AHGL's So You Think You Can Cast! ||| Juicy Dad for lyfe ||| 'idk i get a kick out of stupid things' - Jarms Yarng
WaveofShadow
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada31495 Posts
February 26 2014 01:48 GMT
#346
On February 26 2014 10:46 suki wrote:
I didn't really understand why toad and rayn called each other town, but it didn't strike me as completely odd. Certainly not scummy.

Hmm Toad just replied with reasoning let me see.

Show nested quote +
Does anyone really think either mafia-Rayn or mafia-Toad would pass up on this chance to call the other one a retard? I don't think so.


This is pretty much toad's reasoning on why rayn is town, pretty much a meta read. Which means nothing to me so I'll just wait for them to contribute more before coming to any conclusions.


This is actually not a meta-read at all.

This is going to be a complicated sentence:
Personally I just assumed that Toad saw Rayn directly assuming Toad was asking about millers because he himself was one and saw that as something a towny would assume. I didn't really find that particularly alignment indicative.
twitch.tv/waveofshadow ||| Winner of AHGL's So You Think You Can Cast! ||| Juicy Dad for lyfe ||| 'idk i get a kick out of stupid things' - Jarms Yarng
raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
February 26 2014 01:49 GMT
#347
Mocsta i don't see where Wave implies you are mafia.
table for two on a tv tray
Toadesstern
Profile Blog Joined October 2008
Germany16350 Posts
February 26 2014 01:50 GMT
#348
On February 26 2014 10:46 WaveofShadow wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 26 2014 10:45 Toadesstern wrote:
On February 26 2014 10:43 WaveofShadow wrote:
On February 26 2014 10:40 gumshoe wrote:
On February 26 2014 10:16 Toadesstern wrote:
actually screw what I just said, this trolling shit sucks so let's get down to serious business, we have something to talk about and everyone's ignoring it.

WoS/Holy I know you to are fairly smart, smart enough to answer the following question. What do you make of the conversation between Rayn, geript and me? I want to get some input on that from some more people.
Should help me figure out if you guys are reading


I feel it's important to note that Toads just come off a pretty brutal loss in default, he was outed as the mafia godfather night 1 and I cant help but suspect that either way, that blow will influence his play. The tone switch in this post is noteworthy, he played out the start pretty lightly (in contrast to default where he was somewhat tense throughout) and he feels the need to 'snap' out of it. Feels slightly odd, like hes trying to let us know that hes acting natural, but is intent on winning.

This reads exactly like your post on Mocsta and I don't like it. Do you always base your reads entirely on their most recent game? (Speaking of which, don't talk about ongoing games).

Toad I actually did follow Geript's thought process to some degree.
And I actually had no idea about the miller stuff until you just mentioned it.

If you're sticking around Toad I can discuss with you a little.


yeah sure I'll stick around for another 30 minutes or so I think, still need to watch another episode of nisekoi

Will there be gifs?


don't think so

On February 26 2014 09:53 geript wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 26 2014 09:42 Toadesstern wrote:
On February 26 2014 09:41 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Toad are you a miller?

of course not, but I like this question. You replace WoS as my buddy to murder all of mafia. Easiest townread ever

The miller thing is a silly question. But super fast townread for bullshazazzle reasons. It's not a weird enough reason to call you town to make the observation likely come from town. Equally it's not obvious enough to be an alright soft read. It's just a completely random townread for no reason. That's super scummy.

That's your "reasoning" geript and it's entirely missing the point. It's not about rayn being able to read the OP. It's about rayn letting me fish and see how this goes while ignoring an opportunity to bash me.
<Elem> >toad in charge of judging lewdness <Elem> how bad can it be <Elem> also wew, that is actually p lewd.
WaveofShadow
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada31495 Posts
February 26 2014 01:50 GMT
#349
On February 26 2014 10:49 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Mocsta i don't see where Wave implies you are mafia.

The only thing it could be is my subtle joke at his PYP: LoL scumslip of using QT tags in thread. How he takes that as me implying he is scum and then furthering the suspicion across like three posts is beyond me. In fact, there should be no way anyone else picks up on that, especially people who weren't in that game. (Maybe why he asked you, but still, really subtle.)


twitch.tv/waveofshadow ||| Winner of AHGL's So You Think You Can Cast! ||| Juicy Dad for lyfe ||| 'idk i get a kick out of stupid things' - Jarms Yarng
suki
Profile Joined August 2009
Canada1159 Posts
February 26 2014 01:50 GMT
#350
On February 26 2014 10:48 WaveofShadow wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 26 2014 10:46 suki wrote:
I didn't really understand why toad and rayn called each other town, but it didn't strike me as completely odd. Certainly not scummy.

Hmm Toad just replied with reasoning let me see.

Does anyone really think either mafia-Rayn or mafia-Toad would pass up on this chance to call the other one a retard? I don't think so.


This is pretty much toad's reasoning on why rayn is town, pretty much a meta read. Which means nothing to me so I'll just wait for them to contribute more before coming to any conclusions.


This is actually not a meta-read at all.

This is going to be a complicated sentence:
Personally I just assumed that Toad saw Rayn directly assuming Toad was asking about millers because he himself was one and saw that as something a towny would assume. I didn't really find that particularly alignment indicative.


I didn't understand the sentence but the bolded part is wrong cuz millers aren't self aware
Mocsta
Profile Joined December 2012
Australia9389 Posts
February 26 2014 01:51 GMT
#351
On February 26 2014 10:45 WaveofShadow wrote:
+ Show Spoiler +
On February 26 2014 10:44 Mocsta wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 26 2014 10:16 Toadesstern wrote:
actually screw what I just said, this trolling shit sucks so let's get down to serious business, we have something to talk about and everyone's ignoring it.

WoS/Holy I know you to are fairly smart, smart enough to answer the following question. What do you make of the conversation between Rayn, geript and me? I want to get some input on that from some more people.
Should help me figure out if you guys are reading
Show nested quote +
On February 26 2014 10:40 gumshoe wrote:
I feel it's important to note that Toads just come off a pretty brutal loss in default, he was outed as the mafia godfather night 1 and I cant help but suspect that either way, that blow will influence his play. The tone switch in this post is noteworthy, he played out the start pretty lightly (in contrast to default where he was somewhat tense throughout) and he feels the need to 'snap' out of it. Feels slightly odd, like hes trying to let us know that hes acting natural, but is intent on winning.
The irony of that post is it caught a scum in a recent game I played but I cant remember whom.

I think it was Holyflare? In hogwarts, he said the same thing: town is on the wrong track and let me get it back on the right track.
Syllo called him out rightfully for this. Nice pick up. I suppose we see what eventuates out of his Geript post.

as an aside:
I am really iffy about Wave, but cant tell if I am reading him negatively out of prejudice or not.
Wave
What is your actual issue with my play so far?

I didn't really have one until this post.

Where do you see that I have taken issue with your play?
That's really fucking weird, Mocsta.

Hmmm

I misinterpretted. A lot of times you are referencing me its about gumshoe.

Carry on.

TheChyz
Profile Joined November 2013
Canada238 Posts
February 26 2014 01:51 GMT
#352
Hi all. Mocsta seems pretty town to me atm. In his last game (as scum, GSL open mini) his contributions in the middle of day 2 or 3 were worse than they seem right now.

geript, why is it unlikely that rayn and toad can't be scum together?
Mocsta
Profile Joined December 2012
Australia9389 Posts
February 26 2014 01:51 GMT
#353
On February 26 2014 10:49 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Mocsta i don't see where Wave implies you are mafia.

This is correct, my bad.
raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
February 26 2014 01:52 GMT
#354
On February 26 2014 10:38 Toadesstern wrote:
[...]
He didn't get in the thread and hold it against me that I'm asking a "stupid" question, instead he ended up with a plausible read on me, or so I think.
Frankly speaking same goes for me, I didn't get back and yell at him for not reading the set-up.

Does anyone really think either mafia-Rayn or mafia-Toad would pass up on this chance to call the other one a retard? I don't think so.
[...]

No it's actually the fact that if you were mafia you would not call me town for something like that and vise versa.
Because why would you? Unless we are both mafia. Which we both know we are not.

geript not reaching to this conclusion is imo weird as fuck.
table for two on a tv tray
suki
Profile Joined August 2009
Canada1159 Posts
February 26 2014 01:52 GMT
#355
On February 26 2014 10:50 suki wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 26 2014 10:48 WaveofShadow wrote:
On February 26 2014 10:46 suki wrote:
I didn't really understand why toad and rayn called each other town, but it didn't strike me as completely odd. Certainly not scummy.

Hmm Toad just replied with reasoning let me see.

Does anyone really think either mafia-Rayn or mafia-Toad would pass up on this chance to call the other one a retard? I don't think so.


This is pretty much toad's reasoning on why rayn is town, pretty much a meta read. Which means nothing to me so I'll just wait for them to contribute more before coming to any conclusions.


This is actually not a meta-read at all.

This is going to be a complicated sentence:
Personally I just assumed that Toad saw Rayn directly assuming Toad was asking about millers because he himself was one and saw that as something a towny would assume. I didn't really find that particularly alignment indicative.


I didn't understand the sentence but the bolded part is wrong cuz millers aren't self aware


I do agree though, this whole toad-rayn thing is not alignment indicative to me either.
Mocsta
Profile Joined December 2012
Australia9389 Posts
February 26 2014 01:52 GMT
#356
On February 26 2014 10:51 TheChyz wrote:
Hi all. Mocsta seems pretty town to me atm. In his last game (as scum, GSL open mini) his contributions in the middle of day 2 or 3 were worse than they seem right now.

geript, why is it unlikely that rayn and toad can't be scum together?

erm... what has Day2 or 3 reads as scum, got to do with my reads now in day 1?
WaveofShadow
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada31495 Posts
February 26 2014 01:53 GMT
#357
Yeah Toad defs town.
Toad I don't take any issue with Geript's first post really but reading his second I can't actually tell if he knew what was going on or not. If he doesn't know what's going on his thought process makes some degree of sense to me in that the ;townreads for silly reasons' has some merit to it, but then he talks about trolling and counter-trolling which sort of negates that making sense at all.
twitch.tv/waveofshadow ||| Winner of AHGL's So You Think You Can Cast! ||| Juicy Dad for lyfe ||| 'idk i get a kick out of stupid things' - Jarms Yarng
raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
February 26 2014 01:53 GMT
#358
This TheChyz dude is cool! Except for his read on Mocsta is pretty lulz.
table for two on a tv tray
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
February 26 2014 01:53 GMT
#359
[image loading]

You go to the volcano and it's explodingzzzzzz ohnoesssssssss!!!

That's not the worst of it though, your friend kiterayn has been captured by the evil dragon and the magma is blocking your path!

What do you do???


Radio the fighter jet?
Fly on baloons?
Commission nyan cat to save kiterayn?
Something else?
Use your magic!!!???
TheChyz
Profile Joined November 2013
Canada238 Posts
February 26 2014 01:53 GMT
#360
Nothing to do with reads, just the way your playing. Back in that game it seemed like you and vivax/kush were just posting to fill up the thread and waste the day. Here it seems more like your actually trying to scum hunt. That combined with the fact you haven't claimed scum yet
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