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On February 26 2014 10:22 WaveofShadow wrote:Show nested quote +On February 26 2014 10:19 Mocsta wrote:On thi 26 2014 10:10 WaveofShadow wrote:
Gumshoe just tell me now.
Am I going to have to policy lynch you for lurking this game? If u r town I don't like at all what our doing. Which is. Crating an atmosphere of intimidation If u think otherwise, surely you can admit that the above is not conducive to gleaning the alignment of gumshoe in the slightest Gumshoe post was very reasonable and called me town for the right reasons. Did u read a thing he wrote? Just establishing my dominance, honey. Yes gumshoe's post was reasonable, but also easy. It doesn't say a thing to me about yours or his alignment. I was curious as to whether or not he'd actually be playing this game as I'm used to him either playing his heart out, or lurking like crazy.
That depends entirely on you people : P yall have to be worth my time. Also my lurking has nothing to do with my alignment, I lurk and play as scum or town, you asking wether or not I will adds nothing to the great discussion.
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On February 26 2014 10:10 geript wrote:
Hotdog. Now I really want to lynch gumshoe.
I just want to point out that whatever this guy says my alignment is, it's usually the opposite : P
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@geript care to share reads? I take it you are leaning town on Mocsta? What about me?
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Here i am, awaiting orders!![[image loading]](http://i62.tinypic.com/14nirnm.png)
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also anyone else that caught your eye?
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what the heck is that rayn o_o it looks like a kite with some sort of developmental disorder
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On February 26 2014 10:29 gumshoe wrote:Show nested quote +On February 26 2014 10:22 WaveofShadow wrote:On February 26 2014 10:19 Mocsta wrote:On thi 26 2014 10:10 WaveofShadow wrote:
Gumshoe just tell me now.
Am I going to have to policy lynch you for lurking this game? If u r town I don't like at all what our doing. Which is. Crating an atmosphere of intimidation If u think otherwise, surely you can admit that the above is not conducive to gleaning the alignment of gumshoe in the slightest Gumshoe post was very reasonable and called me town for the right reasons. Did u read a thing he wrote? Just establishing my dominance, honey. Yes gumshoe's post was reasonable, but also easy. It doesn't say a thing to me about yours or his alignment. I was curious as to whether or not he'd actually be playing this game as I'm used to him either playing his heart out, or lurking like crazy. That depends entirely on you people : P yall have to be worth my time. Also my lurking has nothing to do with my alignment, I lurk and play as scum or town, you asking wether or not I will adds nothing to the great discussion.
Both you and Mocsta assume I was asking you to try to help me figure out your alignment.
You even say it after I already TOLD Mocsta it was simply to find out whether you were going to play or not this time around.
Any particular reason you find it necessary to repeat?
Holyflare, I like to live on the edge.
Let's volcano it up. Will anyone else be joining us on our journey? That road looks mighty empty.
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On February 26 2014 10:31 suki wrote:
@geript care to share reads? I take it you are leaning town on Mocsta? What about me?
I honestly haven't looked seriously at either of you. One of his posts threw me off a bit. Why do you care about my read on you?
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Oh, sorry, I thought you wrote this post:
On February 26 2014 10:08 gumshoe wrote:
Mocsta seems into it this game, overall just sharper off the bat then when I was scum together with him just a few days ago. Hes been rolling red alot lately and thats been frustrating him, but I hear none of that agitation in his posts so far. Preliminary read of course, but I feel good about his accusation not coming from a place of deceit. So now I'm left wondering, is he right about Suki? Suki's post doesn't quite feel like it was thought out days in advance, (it's a fairly sloppy one and obviously susceptible to critique) but it does feel crafted, which gives me the sense that she read her pm an hour ago and started over thinking her opening. The post itself is also one that calls back to old games, an attempt at inducing nostalgia. How someones posting makes us feel can easily influence our perception of them and the harry potter claim might be aiming for that.
If Suki isn't scum she's either a) nervous, or b) baiting. Suki, which explanation do you prefer?
but it was gumshoe.
I don't really care who you talk about but some reads would be nice.
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@gumshoe Any reads you'd like to share yet?
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On February 26 2014 10:35 suki wrote:Oh, sorry, I thought you wrote this post: Show nested quote +On February 26 2014 10:08 gumshoe wrote:
Mocsta seems into it this game, overall just sharper off the bat then when I was scum together with him just a few days ago. Hes been rolling red alot lately and thats been frustrating him, but I hear none of that agitation in his posts so far. Preliminary read of course, but I feel good about his accusation not coming from a place of deceit. So now I'm left wondering, is he right about Suki? Suki's post doesn't quite feel like it was thought out days in advance, (it's a fairly sloppy one and obviously susceptible to critique) but it does feel crafted, which gives me the sense that she read her pm an hour ago and started over thinking her opening. The post itself is also one that calls back to old games, an attempt at inducing nostalgia. How someones posting makes us feel can easily influence our perception of them and the harry potter claim might be aiming for that.
If Suki isn't scum she's either a) nervous, or b) baiting. Suki, which explanation do you prefer? but it was gumshoe. I don't really care who you talk about but some reads would be nice.
Why don't you talk about Toad some. His townread on Rayn looks super fishy to me. It seems kinda odd that it seems to be getting wholly ignored other than by toad/rayn/me.
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Mental note: Rayn and Toad very unlikely to be scum together.
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fuck this shit it's 2:30 and I really don't want to stay up any longer and I don't think I'll get more reactions from it and discussion it 12 hours earlier is probably better than going to bed and explain tomorrow...
So here's what happened:
Toad posts:On February 26 2014 09:39 Toadesstern wrote:Show nested quote +On February 26 2014 09:34 suki wrote:On February 26 2014 09:10 Toadesstern wrote:
suki how's life? Still mafia/jester like the last 3 games? I heard you've got a habbit of rolling mafia I just claimed Harry Potter if you weren't reading so life is pretty swag. And IRC mafia doesn't count. So what's the plan this game Toad? Gonna slip up early in Day 1 and give us an easy scum lynch like our last game together? plan is to lynch mafia decidingly and continue doing so. Slip isn't going to happen, I'm town as you might be able to realize soon enough. Plan for today is to have millers claim to get that out of the way.
in a set-up that has no self-aware millers. Fine you might say, I could be doing that as both alignments, right? Next thing
rayn posts
On February 26 2014 09:41 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Toad are you a miller?
and I'm pretty damn sure he knew there are no self aware millers in this set-up given his wording.
We continue:
Toad and rayn post:
On February 26 2014 09:42 Toadesstern wrote:of course not, but I like this question. You replace WoS as my buddy to murder all of mafia. Easiest townread ever On February 26 2014 09:43 raynpelikoneet wrote:Show nested quote +On February 26 2014 09:42 Toadesstern wrote:On February 26 2014 09:41 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Toad are you a miller? of course not, but I like this question. You replace WoS as my buddy to murder all of mafia. Easiest townread ever I like what you are doing. We can be townbuddies.
So here's what I'm seeing. Rayn see's me asking a question that makes no sense because it's not possible according to set-up, yet instead of getting in here and yelling about me he gets in here and turns the question around, asking me if I'm a miller.
I answer him telling him that I'm not but I do like his question for (by now) very obvious reasons.
He says he likes what I'm doing, also for very obvious (by now) reasons.
He didn't get in the thread and hold it against me that I'm asking a "stupid" question, instead he ended up with a plausible read on me, or so I think.
Frankly speaking same goes for me, I didn't get back and yell at him for not reading the set-up.
Does anyone really think either mafia-Rayn or mafia-Toad would pass up on this chance to call the other one a retard? I don't think so.
So here's where it gets interesting:
Geript gets in the thread talking about how it could be anything, certainly indicating at having understood the situation, yet his vote on me makes no sense at all. Why would he come to the conclusion that I'm not making sense based on that?
That's his post
On February 26 2014 09:53 geript wrote:Show nested quote +On February 26 2014 09:42 Toadesstern wrote:On February 26 2014 09:41 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Toad are you a miller? of course not, but I like this question. You replace WoS as my buddy to murder all of mafia. Easiest townread ever The miller thing is a silly question. But super fast townread for bullshazazzle reasons. It's not a weird enough reason to call you town to make the observation likely come from town. Equally it's not obvious enough to be an alright soft read. It's just a completely random townread for no reason. That's super scummy.
I repeatedly asked him to look at it and explain himself, making it clear that I want him to pay attention, stating that I am in fact 100% serious when I said what I said.
He ended up making another post which implies that he had no idea what's going on at all,
+ Show Spoiler [this one] +On February 26 2014 10:02 geript wrote:Show nested quote +On February 26 2014 09:55 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Who did make what observation? I am not following geript. His townread on you is super weird. Maybe I'm just too zealous and too super srs, but I didn't read his response as counter-trolling where I read your read on him as early trolling. So his response isn't a weird enough read (e.g. Vivax "everyone who's posted before me is probably town" read in LXI or Vayne's "Geript not scum with Yamato/Wave" read based on scum talking to each other early in whatever game we just got out of) to be a serious read. But it's equally not an obvious read because you're obvious town. And since I don't read it as trolling, there's only one possibility. Also curse you for forcing me to walk upstairs while I was watching SVU so I could type this out and explain it.
I don't think those 2 posts from him fit together. Thoughts?
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On February 26 2014 10:16 Toadesstern wrote:
actually screw what I just said, this trolling shit sucks so let's get down to serious business, we have something to talk about and everyone's ignoring it.
WoS/Holy I know you to are fairly smart, smart enough to answer the following question. What do you make of the conversation between Rayn, geript and me? I want to get some input on that from some more people.
Should help me figure out if you guys are reading
I feel it's important to note that Toads just come off a pretty brutal loss in default, he was outed as the mafia godfather night 1 and I cant help but suspect that either way, that blow will influence his play. The tone switch in this post is noteworthy, he played out the start pretty lightly (in contrast to default where he was somewhat tense throughout) and he feels the need to 'snap' out of it. Feels slightly odd, like hes trying to let us know that hes acting natural, but is intent on winning.
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On February 26 2014 10:35 suki wrote:
@gumshoe Any reads you'd like to share yet?
I'm reading, dont bug me.
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Yup, I'm happy with my vote.
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On February 26 2014 10:40 gumshoe wrote:Show nested quote +On February 26 2014 10:16 Toadesstern wrote:
actually screw what I just said, this trolling shit sucks so let's get down to serious business, we have something to talk about and everyone's ignoring it.
WoS/Holy I know you to are fairly smart, smart enough to answer the following question. What do you make of the conversation between Rayn, geript and me? I want to get some input on that from some more people.
Should help me figure out if you guys are reading I feel it's important to note that Toads just come off a pretty brutal loss in default, he was outed as the mafia godfather night 1 and I cant help but suspect that either way, that blow will influence his play. The tone switch in this post is noteworthy, he played out the start pretty lightly (in contrast to default where he was somewhat tense throughout) and he feels the need to 'snap' out of it. Feels slightly odd, like hes trying to let us know that hes acting natural, but is intent on winning.
This reads exactly like your post on Mocsta and I don't like it. Do you always base your reads entirely on their most recent game? (Speaking of which, don't talk about ongoing games).
Toad I actually did follow Geript's thought process to some degree.
And I actually had no idea about the miller stuff until you just mentioned it.
If you're sticking around Toad I can discuss with you a little.
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On February 26 2014 10:42 geript wrote:
Yup, I'm happy with my vote.
so you knew about it but still came to the conclusion that the read is weird? Explain.
##vote geript
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On February 26 2014 10:16 Toadesstern wrote:
actually screw what I just said, this trolling shit sucks so let's get down to serious business, we have something to talk about and everyone's ignoring it.
WoS/Holy I know you to are fairly smart, smart enough to answer the following question. What do you make of the conversation between Rayn, geript and me? I want to get some input on that from some more people.
Should help me figure out if you guys are reading On February 26 2014 10:40 gumshoe wrote:
I feel it's important to note that Toads just come off a pretty brutal loss in default, he was outed as the mafia godfather night 1 and I cant help but suspect that either way, that blow will influence his play. The tone switch in this post is noteworthy, he played out the start pretty lightly (in contrast to default where he was somewhat tense throughout) and he feels the need to 'snap' out of it. Feels slightly odd, like hes trying to let us know that hes acting natural, but is intent on winning. The irony of that post is it caught a scum in a recent game I played but I cant remember whom.
I think it was Holyflare? In hogwarts, he said the same thing: town is on the wrong track and let me get it back on the right track.
Syllo called him out rightfully for this. Nice pick up. I suppose we see what eventuates out of his Geript post.
as an aside:
I am really iffy about Wave, but cant tell if I am reading him negatively out of prejudice or not.
Wave
What is your actual issue with my play so far?
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Toad really really town. geript not paying attention, wonder why...
Mocsta:
On February 26 2014 10:05 Mocsta wrote:
Rayn
Do u thibk its plausible for a town wave to infer I am a scum read already?
idk. lemme reread what he said. I wasn't really paying attention to other than geript and then i tired to draw pictures but they went shit so i gave up and drew something...
/GOTO INN
*if it's allowed to smoke there*
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