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LoneMeow
Profile Joined June 2013
Finland1396 Posts
February 21 2014 14:13 GMT
#1121
Current suspicions:

VIVAX420 (1): Oatsmaster, suki, sidesprang, Palmar, prplhz, Balla24, suki, Koshi
Koshi (0): CuteFluffyPuppy, marvellosity, Koshi, suki, CuteFluffyPuppy
marvellosity (0): raynpelikoneet, VIVAX420
CuteFluffyPuppy (1): prplhz, CuteFluffyPuppy, CuteFluffyPuppy
Oatsmaster (1): Koshi, prplhz, VIVAX420
raynpelikoneet (0): Balla24, raynpelikoneet, Toadesstern, prplhz
Palmar (0): Toadesstern, suki
Toadesstern (5): Palmar, VIVAX420, marvellosity, raynpelikoneet, Palmar, Koshi, prplhz, suki
prplhz (0): suki, raynpelikoneet
Balla24 (3): suki, sidesprang, Toadesstern, suki, Oatsmaster
suki (1): raynpelikoneet, raynpelikoneet, Koshi, raynpelikoneet, Oatsmaster
sidesprang (0): Balla24

Toadesstern is now set to be lynched!
Next deadline:
Deadline date: Saturday, Feb 22 12:00am GMT (GMT+00:00)
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
February 21 2014 14:13 GMT
#1122
It's nothing to do with shitting on you for being bad, I'm trying to understand your mindset to see if you are mafia or town.

I shit on Oats for being bad, not you.
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
suki
Profile Joined August 2009
Canada1159 Posts
February 21 2014 14:14 GMT
#1123
You still haven't said what your opinion of balla and me are yet.
Palmar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Iceland22634 Posts
February 21 2014 14:15 GMT
#1124
He clearly said that he agreed with my placement of you respectively, so by extension he thinks balla is town-looking and you're scum-looking.

pls read.
Computer says mafia
suki
Profile Joined August 2009
Canada1159 Posts
February 21 2014 14:15 GMT
#1125
Are you going to question me on how asking you this has any relevance in the game? Or are you going to just straight up ignore me because you feel like it?
prplhz
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Denmark8045 Posts
February 21 2014 14:16 GMT
#1126
On February 21 2014 23:11 marvellosity wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 21 2014 23:07 prplhz wrote:
he was never scum tier material, i just thought he was acting a little odd but i accept that it could just have been a "vote this and lets see what happens" kind of thing, i think he's done that plenty of times before

he seems like he's in a very jolly mood and i think that points at town. i think he likes town more than scum.

also this toad lynch is more yours than his

yes I said "his" because you were attacking Palmar and Palmar is championing toad, not because Palmar specifically started the lynch.

it wasn't really an attack, it was just a "bah i don't like railroading anyone, not even toad, lets see if something odd is happening that i can prod at" and then palmar did something odd and i pointed it out.

maybe he is championing it but i really still consider it your lynch because he's using your arguments. i guess in reality it the arguments' lynch but they're your arguments so it's kind of your lynch. doesn't matter all that much whose lynch it is though i guess.

what do you think about oats? is he another "leave him be and we'll figure him out"?
http://i.imgur.com/M7t7egx.png
suki
Profile Joined August 2009
Canada1159 Posts
February 21 2014 14:16 GMT
#1127
Well maybe I want him to say it straight up and say why he thinks that?
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
February 21 2014 14:17 GMT
#1128
On February 21 2014 23:16 prplhz wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 21 2014 23:11 marvellosity wrote:
On February 21 2014 23:07 prplhz wrote:
he was never scum tier material, i just thought he was acting a little odd but i accept that it could just have been a "vote this and lets see what happens" kind of thing, i think he's done that plenty of times before

he seems like he's in a very jolly mood and i think that points at town. i think he likes town more than scum.

also this toad lynch is more yours than his

yes I said "his" because you were attacking Palmar and Palmar is championing toad, not because Palmar specifically started the lynch.

it wasn't really an attack, it was just a "bah i don't like railroading anyone, not even toad, lets see if something odd is happening that i can prod at" and then palmar did something odd and i pointed it out.

maybe he is championing it but i really still consider it your lynch because he's using your arguments. i guess in reality it the arguments' lynch but they're your arguments so it's kind of your lynch. doesn't matter all that much whose lynch it is though i guess.

what do you think about oats? is he another "leave him be and we'll figure him out"?

yes it's irrelevant, i was explaining why i said his. ergo you said palmar was shady and palmar was championing toad. literally nothing more to it.

i have no idea about oats at all. not sure we'll figure him out eventually either.
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
Palmar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Iceland22634 Posts
February 21 2014 14:18 GMT
#1129
On February 21 2014 23:16 prplhz wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 21 2014 23:11 marvellosity wrote:
On February 21 2014 23:07 prplhz wrote:
he was never scum tier material, i just thought he was acting a little odd but i accept that it could just have been a "vote this and lets see what happens" kind of thing, i think he's done that plenty of times before

he seems like he's in a very jolly mood and i think that points at town. i think he likes town more than scum.

also this toad lynch is more yours than his

yes I said "his" because you were attacking Palmar and Palmar is championing toad, not because Palmar specifically started the lynch.

it wasn't really an attack, it was just a "bah i don't like railroading anyone, not even toad, lets see if something odd is happening that i can prod at" and then palmar did something odd and i pointed it out.

maybe he is championing it but i really still consider it your lynch because he's using your arguments. i guess in reality it the arguments' lynch but they're your arguments so it's kind of your lynch. doesn't matter all that much whose lynch it is though i guess.

what do you think about oats? is he another "leave him be and we'll figure him out"?


It matters tomorrow when I go 180 berzerk on marv for leading a mislynch on a townie.
Computer says mafia
Palmar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Iceland22634 Posts
February 21 2014 14:19 GMT
#1130
On February 21 2014 23:17 marvellosity wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 21 2014 23:16 prplhz wrote:
On February 21 2014 23:11 marvellosity wrote:
On February 21 2014 23:07 prplhz wrote:
he was never scum tier material, i just thought he was acting a little odd but i accept that it could just have been a "vote this and lets see what happens" kind of thing, i think he's done that plenty of times before

he seems like he's in a very jolly mood and i think that points at town. i think he likes town more than scum.

also this toad lynch is more yours than his

yes I said "his" because you were attacking Palmar and Palmar is championing toad, not because Palmar specifically started the lynch.

it wasn't really an attack, it was just a "bah i don't like railroading anyone, not even toad, lets see if something odd is happening that i can prod at" and then palmar did something odd and i pointed it out.

maybe he is championing it but i really still consider it your lynch because he's using your arguments. i guess in reality it the arguments' lynch but they're your arguments so it's kind of your lynch. doesn't matter all that much whose lynch it is though i guess.

what do you think about oats? is he another "leave him be and we'll figure him out"?

yes it's irrelevant, i was explaining why i said his. ergo you said palmar was shady and palmar was championing toad. literally nothing more to it.

i have no idea about oats at all. not sure we'll figure him out eventually either.


I suggest the rope+tree investigative method.

100% success rate.
Computer says mafia
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
February 21 2014 14:19 GMT
#1131
problem is you get lynched in that scenario palmar

suki:
On February 21 2014 22:51 suki wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 21 2014 21:33 marvellosity wrote:
On February 21 2014 21:31 Palmar wrote:
I am almost always terribly wrong on one mafia and call him town, so you could check out in my top 7.

But I think toad is a good day 1 lynch.

The problem is I agree completely with where you put absolutely everyone, except I'd probably move kush down one.


marv I take this to mean you think I'm scummy? I ask because you still haven't straight up said how Balla and I look even though you kept saying you had to go back and re-read our exchange.

On February 21 2014 22:53 marvellosity wrote:
that would be the interpretation yes. The 2nd exchange you had last night that I was able to pay more attention to/follow better had Balla looking better because he was doing the aggressive pursuing and you were quite defensive.

On February 21 2014 22:59 marvellosity wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 21 2014 22:54 suki wrote:
So you're just content with trolling the newbie huh

The problem is, suki, you ask questions like the one you just asked to Palmar, which come across as really odd.

It seems kinda obvious that kush had just been in the thread spouting off about Oats and so at that moment Palmar was thinking about kush and Oats in relation to lynchings, so he just made that semi-throwaway comment.

Further what possible answer can he give that might affect his alignment in any way? "oops I forgot you suki" "omg you must be scum for forgetting that I'm your #2 read"? I don't understand the angle of the question you're asking or what you're trying to achieve, and I don't think that's the only instance of that happening.

Further still, you are a girl and I'm scared of girls.

[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
February 21 2014 14:20 GMT
#1132
On February 21 2014 23:19 Palmar wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 21 2014 23:17 marvellosity wrote:
On February 21 2014 23:16 prplhz wrote:
On February 21 2014 23:11 marvellosity wrote:
On February 21 2014 23:07 prplhz wrote:
he was never scum tier material, i just thought he was acting a little odd but i accept that it could just have been a "vote this and lets see what happens" kind of thing, i think he's done that plenty of times before

he seems like he's in a very jolly mood and i think that points at town. i think he likes town more than scum.

also this toad lynch is more yours than his

yes I said "his" because you were attacking Palmar and Palmar is championing toad, not because Palmar specifically started the lynch.

it wasn't really an attack, it was just a "bah i don't like railroading anyone, not even toad, lets see if something odd is happening that i can prod at" and then palmar did something odd and i pointed it out.

maybe he is championing it but i really still consider it your lynch because he's using your arguments. i guess in reality it the arguments' lynch but they're your arguments so it's kind of your lynch. doesn't matter all that much whose lynch it is though i guess.

what do you think about oats? is he another "leave him be and we'll figure him out"?

yes it's irrelevant, i was explaining why i said his. ergo you said palmar was shady and palmar was championing toad. literally nothing more to it.

i have no idea about oats at all. not sure we'll figure him out eventually either.


I suggest the rope+tree investigative method.

100% success rate.

this one is quite funny.
I had a good night of sleep.
Palmar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Iceland22634 Posts
February 21 2014 14:21 GMT
#1133
On February 21 2014 23:19 marvellosity wrote:
problem is you get lynched in that scenario palmar


challenge accepted.
Computer says mafia
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
February 21 2014 14:22 GMT
#1134
I wouldn't even rage though, it'd be no fun.
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
suki
Profile Joined August 2009
Canada1159 Posts
February 21 2014 14:22 GMT
#1135
On February 21 2014 22:53 marvellosity wrote:
that would be the interpretation yes. The 2nd exchange you had last night that I was able to pay more attention to/follow better had Balla looking better because he was doing the aggressive pursuing and you were quite defensive.


Sorry I missed this post.
Palmar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Iceland22634 Posts
February 21 2014 14:24 GMT
#1136
On February 21 2014 23:22 marvellosity wrote:
I wouldn't even rage though, it'd be no fun.

yeah, it needs to be an actual challenge for it to be fun.
Computer says mafia
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
February 21 2014 14:25 GMT
#1137
suki, planning on making waves today?
I had a good night of sleep.
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
February 21 2014 14:28 GMT
#1138
On February 21 2014 23:24 Palmar wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 21 2014 23:22 marvellosity wrote:
I wouldn't even rage though, it'd be no fun.

yeah, it needs to be an actual challenge for it to be fun.


On February 21 2014 11:23 suki wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 21 2014 11:18 prplhz wrote:
On February 21 2014 11:15 Oatsmaster wrote:
why would Palmar do that as scum.

what do i know maybe he doesn't want to push a guy to a lynch who is town or maybe he likes a toad lynch better or whatever make something up

don't you think it's weird that palmar is making bad associative reads?


I do and I really like this analysis

##unvote
##vote Palmar

This vote came completely out of left-field. If we go back to the Koshi case that suki made, within that case Toad had no redeeming features at all still (and could be voted for later). But here Palmar is worth a vote for prplhz mentioning bad associative reads and that's it.

It's like it was one thing about Palmar which was perhaps semi-significant that was worth a vote without considering anything else that Palmar had done at all.
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
suki
Profile Joined August 2009
Canada1159 Posts
February 21 2014 14:30 GMT
#1139
On February 21 2014 23:28 marvellosity wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 21 2014 23:24 Palmar wrote:
On February 21 2014 23:22 marvellosity wrote:
I wouldn't even rage though, it'd be no fun.

yeah, it needs to be an actual challenge for it to be fun.


Show nested quote +
On February 21 2014 11:23 suki wrote:
On February 21 2014 11:18 prplhz wrote:
On February 21 2014 11:15 Oatsmaster wrote:
why would Palmar do that as scum.

what do i know maybe he doesn't want to push a guy to a lynch who is town or maybe he likes a toad lynch better or whatever make something up

don't you think it's weird that palmar is making bad associative reads?


I do and I really like this analysis

##unvote
##vote Palmar

This vote came completely out of left-field. If we go back to the Koshi case that suki made, within that case Toad had no redeeming features at all still (and could be voted for later). But here Palmar is worth a vote for prplhz mentioning bad associative reads and that's it.

It's like it was one thing about Palmar which was perhaps semi-significant that was worth a vote without considering anything else that Palmar had done at all.


Did you maybe miss the entire post that I made on palmar like just before prplhz's post? The one where I said here is why I find Palmar scummy?
CuteFluffyPuppy
Profile Joined February 2014
Afghanistan138 Posts
February 21 2014 14:31 GMT
#1140
@Balla I don't know if your meta case holds water because it's easier to be a town leader in a newbie game rather than in a game that is partially occupied by vets. When someone like Rayn or Marv comments on your ideas and call them shit, you're more likely to adapt than when Newbie43 whom has no authority says maybe the ideas aren't great. I don't think Suki received the amount of pressure in her newbie game to warrant using that as an accurate tell. The situations feel incomparable.
I'd like to hear which posts by Suki make you feel she's clearly town.

As for Kush, I remember him asking a host in a game before participating if he would be allowed to play with one post a day. He's also had large filters as scum before. Activity is not a scumtell for Kush. I think the strongest thing that makes Kush scum is the contradiction on what Marv saw earlier.

Happy with the Toad case. Could lynch for sure. Oats looks awful as well. He always does but he looks extra awful this game.
On February 21 2014 17:46 Koshi wrote:
CuteFluffyPuppy: this might be very coincidental but when I got heat he suddenly was on pages on which I was scummy and he said so, and then when marv got his little bit of heat CFP just had a quote in which he found marv scummy. I guess this guy needs to be read in his filter. Because reading him in the thread is just dumb because he is not following the flow. Which is actually scummy because the only person I remember doing this like this was BH as a smurf. And he was scum.

I'm actually doing what Promethelax did in the original Shadow game because I felt it was a good method to catch up and show your reads as you develop them. Basically catching up for discussion I missed. It hasn't actually got me many scumreads to work with, but if it provides my thought processes and allows me to process the thread better, it's already worth it.
On February 21 2014 19:41 Palmar wrote:
Btw this is the most boring smurf I've ever seen. Goddamnit smurf.

Sorry to disappoint

Don't like Toad's return into the thread. He said he was going to check out Shadow game, yet he responds to my post and drops his Balla read.
On February 21 2014 20:40 marvellosity wrote:
ok, just carrying on looking through Smurf's filter. The biggest problem I have at the end of it is that after all his catchup posts he actually has no conclusions about anything, at all.

I have no real idea what Smurf thinks about anything.

That's because I didn't really have any scumreads at the end. Strongest suspicion was on Suki. Currently it's on Toad. Too many scummy things, something that happened in Shadow as well yet everyone decided to not lynch him for it. The contradiction and his focus on defending himself, calling you a liar but not scum, all counts in for it.

##Unvote
##Vote Toadesstern
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