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sidesprang

Norway1033 Posts

February 07 2014 15:46 GMT

#465

On February 08 2014 00:45 Koshi wrote:

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Well, I am not too interested with meta atm. Did you read last game?

I read untill I quit pretty much, and the ending since I wanted to know how the game got fucked.

sidesprang

Norway1033 Posts

February 07 2014 15:58 GMT

#472

I don't mind hopeless so far this game. He made good points against JayB, tho I dont agree that they have to make him scum, might just be bad. And I like that he got Balla to quit playing around with the confirmed town shit. Only problem is that all his posts have been easy posts to make even for a scum. So he is pretty much null for me atm.

sidesprang

Norway1033 Posts

February 07 2014 16:08 GMT

#473

On February 08 2014 00:58 suki wrote:
Apparently I suck at reading comprehension. I'm looking forward to your updated thoughts on Oats.

Is there any one else who you find scummy?

Still would like your opinion of Balla on record.

ATM only the 3 guys I mentioned have gone the wrong way on the scummeter. Rest is pretty much null or slight town.

I think Balla is town atm.

sidesprang

Norway1033 Posts

February 08 2014 13:25 GMT

#704

Ok so I said I was gonna look into oats meta. Tbh when looking at it, it seems like he is town when playing bad. Like the aggression and "Wagon of justice" shit is stuff he does as town.

Example:
Roulette Mini Mafia / Vanilla Town

He also have tendencies to just swap and go to other players, and not really saying why. And he does it in a way that looks pretty dumb. Like screaming "VOTE THIS GUY" etc.

LXIV / Vanilla town

In his mafia game he seems more serious to a certain degree. Kinda typing like he did with his vote on me. Giving small explanations, not really a big case but just one thing he did not like and therefor the guy is scum. He dont have a problem with voteswapping a lot either, as he does in this game.

DR Who Mafia / scum

Overall tho I do feel his starting posts in this game very much resembles the first towngame I read and linked, So I think I'm leaning null or towards town. Atleast based on meta atm.

sidesprang

Norway1033 Posts

February 08 2014 13:32 GMT

#705

I'll give JayB a pass for now, since he claimed blue. And I definetly don't see any scumreason for doing it atm, and he also did the same shit last game as town (seriously why the fuck are you claiming ?). If we get some information that suggest he is lying we can deal with it then.

I'll go look some more into Jonny / LM / Slam.

sidesprang

Norway1033 Posts

February 08 2014 13:37 GMT

#708

Well sure, but need to do LM aswell as he came into the thread after big afk.

sidesprang

Norway1033 Posts

February 08 2014 17:41 GMT

#742

Ok lets see...

LM: While reading his filter I just dont see anything that stand out in a scummy way, not neccesarily town either. But not worth looking at this late in the cycle.

Alakaslam: I buy that he has been busy with work and whatnot. As I don't think scum!slam would lurk in any way I dont see a reason for lying about it. That being said I dont think his enterance is very good. Starts by complaining about how Balla / Suki trolled early game, which has been pointed out is something he is very capable aswell. And it was obviously something that was prewritten before Balla got the roles. Why bring that shit up again, its a null tell. His points are just fluff. He then says he is going to try some filters, but looks like he only read JayB, maybe the easiest one to pick on at the time.

@Slam Did you read up on the rest of the players? Do you got any other reads? What are your thoughts on Jonny?

Hopeless: Overall I dont find much scummy or town in his filter. But I agree I don't like why he is giving oats a townread. As oats is able to swap around his vote like that as scum and town it should be a null tell. And as hopeless has been around a lot I would think he would know that.

@Hopeless Is there anything other than the voteswapping and how he did it that give you a towntell on oats? Does your towntell diminish if you read some of his scumgames and see he is able to do that as scum aswell?

Jonny: Ok he left off by saying he had a case coming on Balla, and that Ballas filter stank. But when he comes back he has a case on Koshi. And imo it sucks, he points to a lot of different things, but I dont see why Koshi is scum from any of them. He claims to have scumreads on Koshi, slam and LM. Where the fuck did Balla go? I think Aquas case on him is really good, especially his conversation with the LM read. It really don't make any sense.

@Jonny What is your stance on Balla now? What in his filter stank, is it still stinking ? If not why?

##Vote JonnyLaw

sidesprang

Norway1033 Posts

February 08 2014 17:50 GMT

#744

so you are scum then ?

sidesprang

Norway1033 Posts

February 08 2014 18:27 GMT

#753

The whole 2 game thing dont matter atm. Just think of it as a normal game with everyone having their own coach.

sidesprang

Norway1033 Posts

February 09 2014 13:14 GMT

#999

Ok, so from the lynch. Coag and Suki both are looking bad, and have been talked about a lot.

Suki as I said is hard for me, she completly fooled me for the most part in Newbie mafia L1, and i'm starting to get scared she is doing it again. I had her as null / leaning town earlier. But her hard attack on Jay looks way worse now that Jonny flipped scum. I mean most of us thought Jonny was good D1 lynch, and the fact that Jay blueclaimed but she stilled thought he was a better lynch I find a off. Yes the claim was wierd, but he did the same shit last game.

The Slam / Coag team looks bad mostly for his lack of mentioning of Jonny. Which I wish we could have questioned Slam about. Sadly unless Coag for some reason decides to actually play mafia I doubt we will get much usefull information from him. Might be the best vig shot if we got one imo.

Two others that really did not mention Jonny either is Hopeless and Oats, and I think we should look at them for tomorrow aswell.

Hopeless on Jonny:

Only post before vote where jonny is mentioned:

On February 08 2014 01:29 Hopeless1der wrote:

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At a skim, he goes from JayB->JonnyLaw->me->Suki->sidesprang. Can't sit still, pursuing everything he sees for the most part.

He completely glances over JonnyLaw and me, but volunteered reads/reasons for the other 3. I think he's town.

The vote:

On February 08 2014 23:44 Hopeless1der wrote:

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Of course he disagrees with me, he's scum Koshi. /sarcasm

I may not be back before deadline, family stuff. I'll try to keep updated by phone

##Unvote
##Vote: JonnyLaw

Oats on Jonny:

On February 07 2014 11:42 Oatsmaster wrote:
Johnny is my second pick for scum but I doubt that him and jay are on the same team due to the pretty much exact same push on koshi. Thoughts?

On February 07 2014 19:17 Oatsmaster wrote:
I gave the first analysis on suki, the only thing I sheeped was aqua asking about suki.

how is suki town because she totally ignores jayb's case and thinks he is too tryhard and therefore scum? URGHGHHH

fine.
##unvote
##vote Sidesprang
Firstly his scumreads dont make sense. He summarizes all our filters and doesnt say anything about how it makes us scum, he isnt reading in depth at all to know that I think johnny is town and his townread on suki doesnt make sense either.
bleh its hard to phrase but I dont get the feeling like he is questioning anything at all in this game.

On February 08 2014 11:14 Oatsmaster wrote:
Hmm johnny says he is gonna post a case on balla. I wanna see how that goea but currently I could lynch
Hes like really angry. Angry people are scummy people

The Vote:

On February 08 2014 22:58 Oatsmaster wrote:
##unvote
bleh.
sheep time
##vote johnny

I don't really know hopeless playstyle, and I mentioned earlier that Oats can pull this off as either allignment. And now that Jonny flipped scum I'm getting extra worried. Sadly their play this game is mostly short post with little content, so they are hard to read, atleast for me.

For now I would think both scum lies in theese four.

Anyone have input on oats / hopeless? Don't feel they have been discussed much yet.

sidesprang

Norway1033 Posts

February 09 2014 13:15 GMT

#1000

On February 09 2014 16:14 Oatsmaster wrote:

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I totally didnt bus Johnny right guis?

I think hopeless is town, coag is town if he actually posted more than once.

Why is hopeless town? I really don't see how he can be more than a null, unless you got some meta shit on him.

sidesprang

Norway1033 Posts

February 10 2014 08:01 GMT

#1180

@Jay, ok so where is the pressure ?

sidesprang

Norway1033 Posts

February 10 2014 08:17 GMT

#1181

On February 10 2014 12:30 suki wrote:
##vote Coagulation

I see that Oats has posted a bunch. I want to hear from Sidesprang. Specifically these questions:

1. Who is your number one lynch at the moment for Day 2 and why?
2. Who is scummy to you?
3. Comments on the Jonny lynch and the events leading up to it.

I'll comment on Oats in the morning when I'm not tired and I really hope to see something from Sidesprang.

I would prefer to lynch Oats, reasons being. He hardly mentioned jonny, had no reasons for voting him. Has two suspect townreads (hopeless / JayB). He is also not being very helpfull to town.

People who is leaning scum to me is Oats, You, Coag, Hopeless. Pretty much in that order I think.

Koshi and Balla lead the lynch, they were too me the two guys looking most towny. Koshi prolly died because of it. 3 guys have votes that they pretty much did not explain. You had Jonny as second lynch (I think), but for some reason was very reluctant to get JayB lynched instead.

I feel usualy town when having two scumreads are happy lynching either atleast when its such a landslide in votes. The fact that you are no dropping him completly for the day while having gone that hard for him I don't understand.

Anyhow, off too school. I'll check in when I got time.

sidesprang

Norway1033 Posts

February 10 2014 10:13 GMT

#1184

On February 10 2014 18:14 jaybrundage wrote:
What puts Oats before Suki and Coag. Specifically Coag.

I put Oats over Coag because I think its more likely that he will flip scum. Both Coag and Slam have a pretty unreadable play for me atleast. The only really scummy point is that Slam did not talk about Jonny at all even tho he was one of the two leading scum lynches when he entered the thread. But hey neither did Oats or Hopeless, they just did a cheap vote on him. Of course it dont make you scum, but it's clear scumpoints in my book atleast.

I totally would not mind a Coag lynch either, because I think he will be an issue for the rest of the game. Untill he is dead we will always wonder, he wont do shit to clear himself. But he will do this as either allignment which is why I prefer to lynch oats. Just check Titanic II, there he gets replaced in, does jack shit, gets modkilled (from getting tl.net ban).

sidesprang

Norway1033 Posts

February 10 2014 11:18 GMT

#1186

On February 10 2014 19:18 Oatsmaster wrote:
Again, how in the world is lynching scum somehow scummier than not lynching scum?

I really dont get what you are saying? Are you trying to say that people with votes on Jonny should have towncred? Like you are giving hopeless towncred for it when he just jumped on the wagon at some point with no reasoning.

What I'm saying is that I think at least one or more scum got onto the vote somehow, and I think the ones that did it without much reasoning is more likely to be those scummers.

sidesprang

Norway1033 Posts

February 11 2014 05:13 GMT

#1252

On February 11 2014 12:35 Coagulation wrote:
no seriously this game is full of the most arrogant self fucking righteous jerkoffs I have ever seen. I replaced in to fucking try and help the host and players deal with a modkill the best way I could and all you guys do is shit on me for trying my best with what I got delt with.

Suck my balls all of you.

You are not helping your anyone because you are not even playing. Not the first time I see you replace in, do nothing, then cry "i'm just helping out". But in fact you do not, in Titanic II you were just a big questionmark we could never get the answer too. Best thing you did there was to get modkilled so we did not have to waste a day on lynching you.

Atleast we got the added benefit that Slam looked suspicious before you replaced in this time.

##Vote Coag

sidesprang

Norway1033 Posts

February 11 2014 05:14 GMT

#1253

Sorry I broke the smilie rule!

:party

sidesprang

Norway1033 Posts

February 11 2014 05:15 GMT

#1254

oh and now I fail at it, fml.

sidesprang

Norway1033 Posts

February 11 2014 06:11 GMT

#1255

On February 11 2014 03:22 LoneMeow wrote:

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There's a few people you don't mention here as either town or scum. What do you think about their alignments and why?

I guess it dont hurt to mention the rest of the reads as I think most of the players are on the same page.

I'm town on

Balla
Aqua
JayB

Balla because he lead the lynch, and I think his play in general have been pretty much towny through and through. He is also posting way more than he is doing in his scumgames (tho I think he is aware of this meta, so might not be that much of a tell).

Aqua was also early on the lynch, and made his own case for it. I like his posts in general, feels like he is really trying to solve the game.

JayB is town because his blueclaim and his N1 play.

People I'm null on

LoneMeow
Hopeless

TBH I have not read up much on you, mostly because I never got any bad vibes. But i've not really gotten any good ones either. You were early on the coag lynch I think, so that might turn out beneficial for you. Altho If coag flips scum I would not be suprised if he was bussed early eiher. But I guess that is somthing we deal with tomorrow.

I was leaning slightly scummy towards hopeless, but I think he might be climbing towards null with his big suki post. I at least think its way more likely the scum is in the remaining three.