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suki
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Balla24
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On February 18 2014 13:12 suki wrote: Would you be like NAHHHHHH I'm going to OMGUS that person and not provide any more reads and pretty much look like I don't care about the game? that's the attitude I felt. I mean... that was his attitude ^_^ so yeah its totally possible townies would do that. It might not be optimal but sometimes you can't put your heart into the game. Just look at your d3 here, we could all tell at some points you felt demotivated, it just happens, you were able to get right back into it but not everybody can right away. The optimal thing would obviously be for him to refute your points and provide his real scumread. But if the game could be broken down that way it wouldn't be fun. Mafia is fluid, emotions and opinions of people change things ALL the time. Anyways.. I would for sure like to hear what jay has to say about what he was up to during day 1. | ||
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suki
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I mean that explains it right? His attitude was one of survival and defense rather than scum hunting, which was pretty much the whole reason I was on his case to begin with. His survival attitude ended up not being because he was scum but it's something that I do find very scummy. | ||
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gonzaw
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I mean, he wouldn't even be close to a D1 lynch with all the super awesome advice I gave him, like "Please don't get lynched dude" | ||
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Balla24
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On February 18 2014 13:17 suki wrote: Furthermore, his reason for not posting for the rest of day one 'Because I was scared of drawing attention to myself and being mislynched' ... I mean that explains it right? His attitude was one of survival and defense rather than scum hunting, which was pretty much the whole reason I was on his case to begin with. His survival attitude ended up not being because he was scum but it's something that I do find very scummy. I think thats scummy too BUT I think its totally consistent with what a townie would do if he was in jay's position. | ||
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suki
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So I do feel bad Jay, for the tunnel. I'm justifying my thoughts here now, but I was the only person to think you were scummy so right now I feel like I played poorly and I'm just giving you my thoughts so you know where I was coming from. I'd love to hear your thoughts | ||
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jaybrundage
United States3921 Posts
On February 18 2014 12:53 suki wrote: Jay it's been a week since I was totes JAY SCUM TUNNEL OF JUSTICE but let me think what sticks out to me the most... Your over-eagerness to push a case on Koshi seemed out of character for you and you kept on exaggerating how scummy Koshi looked (and eventually pulled Balla in and called them a scum team). It was hard to believe that you seriously thought that this was true and felt too forced. So really at the beginning it was a total gut feeling thing. Later on, there were several things that I noticed that just felt off to me... 1. You saying you would scum hunt at the beginning, post a giant case on koshi, and then for the rest of the day you barely pushed anyone. 2. You weren't pressuring people, asking them questions etc. 3. You seemed much more defensive. I'm wondering if being blue this game changed your outlook to care more about survival because I had this meta read on you that if you were town you wouldn't care about people's cases on you and would just counter-pressure. Probably those were the biggest things. If it's any consolation to you, I'm actually really really good at pushing lynches against blue roles when I'm town -_-; If you could comment on these points I'd really like to hear your thoughts because I want to improve and not push bad tunnels in the future. I posted a big case on Koshi and I thought he was scum. When I put my case out and no one liked it that showed that I was a bit tunneled and didn't need to tunnel Koshi (rightful so as he was town as well.) With that being said me talking to balla about my thought process and his though process was really good. (Props to you for that Balla) and helped change my read on him. I don't think a scum would ever do that. I was a bit lost after Koshi gained to traction. So I handed over the reigns of the game to my town reads at that time (Aqua and Balla) and let them lead the lynch and hung back as I was blue. Last game I was almost lynched. I changed my play style because jonny was tunneling me cause I was too towny and wasn't scum hunting. I was very annoyed because I felt my first game was me trying my ass off as townie and i was trying to emulate gonzaw's giant post style (lulz) I was defensive cause the whole thread thought my case on Koshi was bad. ( I still maintain that Koshi should of been happier  ) Also I was cop I didn't want to get lynched again. That's why I blue claimed earlier with out being specific so I could get room to breath and not be forced later on in the day if I was close to being lynched and with that be forced to full claim.Also for Meta If I am town I am very carefree (Like a majestic buck running thru the sunny bright glades). Prome can usually read me well in that regard so I was kinda surprised to find out he was your coach. But I guess Coaches can't give to much alignment indicative advice. | ||
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Balla24
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Balla24
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+ Show Spoiler + On February 07 2014 12:36 Balla24 wrote: The post you were quoting where I replied to you. It was about how you had the impression that I was calling your push on Koshi scummy. I just want to know if we're clear now and on the same page. I don't know what you're talking about in regards to responding to koshi's vote vote though haha. I don't care that you didn't reply to his vote post where he called you awkward or whatever. There was no reason to. | ||
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suki
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If he thought you were town he wouldn't have told me.And yeah, I thought you would be carefree, like a majestic buck running through the sunny bright glades, that exact picture. So your play this game being more low key and survival-oriented really stuck out to me. | ||
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jaybrundage
United States3921 Posts
On February 18 2014 13:14 suki wrote: I know right? I was so happy. And then Jay had to ruin it by actually being town hehehe. You and jonny. This guy wasn't scum. BUT HE SHOULD OF BEEN QQ | ||
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suki
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I couldn't follow that line of thought so I dismissed it. lol I still cant follow it and I don't know if I want to put the effort in to try hahaha. | ||
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jaybrundage
United States3921 Posts
On February 18 2014 13:17 gonzaw wrote: You guys don't be hating on mah boy. I mean, he wouldn't even be close to a D1 lynch with all the super awesome advice I gave him, like "Please don't get lynched dude" To my record I was never lynched either game | ||
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suki
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Balla24
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On February 18 2014 13:23 jaybrundage wrote: You and jonny. This guy wasn't scum. BUT HE SHOULD OF BEEN QQ LMAO. In all fairness I think Jonny's case on you was completely ridiculous last game. Like I can understand feeling weird about how townie you were playing, but pushing it as your day1 lynch seems unreasonable. Actually this game I felt really off about Aquanim the entire time but it ended up never really materializing. | ||
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suki
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jaybrundage
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On February 18 2014 13:17 suki wrote: Furthermore, his reason for not posting for the rest of day one 'Because I was scared of drawing attention to myself and being mislynched' ... I mean that explains it right? His attitude was one of survival and defense rather than scum hunting, which was pretty much the whole reason I was on his case to begin with. His survival attitude ended up not being because he was scum but it's something that I do find very scummy. I think this had more to be being cop and a strong asset to the town if I was allowed to live longer. I didn't want to say the wrong thing and have a last minute vote shenanigans and get lynched | ||
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Balla24
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On February 18 2014 13:24 suki wrote: Could you maybe summarize it to make it easier for me to digest? Yeah. So if you remember the events of the early game in which resulted in a lot of what you found jay scummy for, I early voted jay to see his reaction (cause I thought his post was somewhat scummy), koshi hops on etc etc. In that quote string, jay explains EXACTLY what he was thinking about each little thing. My vote, koshi's vote, koshi's followup etc etc... it's eye opening because I realized he was blowing up specifically because KOSHI was not providing reasoning and being antagonistic. | ||
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