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Palmar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Iceland22634 Posts
February 11 2014 08:44 GMT
#1347
I am a butterfly
Computer says mafia
Palmar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Iceland22634 Posts
February 11 2014 08:50 GMT
#1348
Mafia is so much more fun when you're about to die. No pressure, just go with the flow.
Computer says mafia
Palmar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Iceland22634 Posts
February 11 2014 08:53 GMT
#1350
On February 11 2014 16:25 Oatsmaster wrote:
I could totally lynch yamato for that vote too


Let's discuss it for a bit, and for the moment let's assume I'm town, because that's actually important for the discussion at hand.

Why does this vote make yamato scum? Does it make sense for scum-yamato to do this? Given the assumption that marv is not the one who's going to die from the nomination, why on earth would scum-yamato place his vote on the one person that is most likely to be alive to give him a hard time later in the game.

I'm not saying he can't be scum, it's just food for thought.
Computer says mafia
Palmar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Iceland22634 Posts
February 11 2014 08:55 GMT
#1352
On February 11 2014 17:51 Koshi wrote:
How are you dieing?


I don't know yet, but when the time comes I'll be ready.
Computer says mafia
Palmar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Iceland22634 Posts
February 11 2014 09:03 GMT
#1356
On February 11 2014 17:58 Koshi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 11 2014 17:53 Palmar wrote:
On February 11 2014 16:25 Oatsmaster wrote:
I could totally lynch yamato for that vote too


Let's discuss it for a bit, and for the moment let's assume I'm town, because that's actually important for the discussion at hand.

Why does this vote make yamato scum? Does it make sense for scum-yamato to do this? Given the assumption that marv is not the one who's going to die from the nomination, why on earth would scum-yamato place his vote on the one person that is most likely to be alive to give him a hard time later in the game.

I'm not saying he can't be scum, it's just food for thought.

I don't understand what you being town has to do with it. But yamato being town will be judged on how he returns to thread after his 72h porck-chop cooking. I got him as town for his "big" post with the quoting of other people somewhere in the middle of the day and a decent filter. And the emotions at the end of lynch.

Don't know if scum yamato is still the 1-2 hardtry posts into nothingness like it was when he rolled a lot of scum 6 months ago. But atm I got yamato as town.

Oats is just being wrong. again.


I don't agree with Oats's conclusion, but that doesn't really make it invalid.

What I need is a thought process, to understand why he just did what he did.

1. Oats reads post
2. *something here*
3. Oats wants to lynch yamato.

I need Oats to fill in the blank. What specifically about that vote makes yamato lynch-worthy.
Computer says mafia
Palmar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Iceland22634 Posts
February 11 2014 09:06 GMT
#1358
On February 11 2014 18:04 Oatsmaster wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 11 2014 17:53 Palmar wrote:
On February 11 2014 16:25 Oatsmaster wrote:
I could totally lynch yamato for that vote too


Let's discuss it for a bit, and for the moment let's assume I'm town, because that's actually important for the discussion at hand.

Why does this vote make yamato scum? Does it make sense for scum-yamato to do this? Given the assumption that marv is not the one who's going to die from the nomination, why on earth would scum-yamato place his vote on the one person that is most likely to be alive to give him a hard time later in the game.

I'm not saying he can't be scum, it's just food for thought.

So assuming the vote is there because he wants to lyncch marv, he isnt doing shit to make that happeb. Its the only vote on marv and now, looks like he doesnt give a shit which one out of the three dudes die.
Scum yamato might do this because he expects to use the reasoning "why would I do this if im scum bla bla". Honestly though, if hes scum he wont get lynched just because of a shoddy vote so its possible he isnt thinking about the long term. What do you think Palmar?


I think scum prefer safe play over most everything else. Sure it's entirely possible yamato anticipated someone noticing how little sense the vote on marv makes sense from a mafia perspective.

But at face value (ie: disregard wifom) this vote by itself is not scummy. And I'm surprised you'd try to portray it as such.
Computer says mafia
Palmar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Iceland22634 Posts
February 11 2014 09:15 GMT
#1364
I'm awful beyond earlygame tbh. I'm quite good at day 1 reads usually, but beyond that I tend to just try to lynch whoever thinks I'm scum because I'm a dumbass and I think everyone should always know I'm town when I'm town.

I need to confirm this, but initial reading of rayn's filter makes me think it's very, very unlikely he's mafia. I'm even contemplating asking people to lynch me over him, if unwilling to lynch marv.
Computer says mafia
Palmar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Iceland22634 Posts
February 11 2014 09:31 GMT
#1369
Maybe scum wants me dead because I want them dead (hi ve, geript etc)
Computer says mafia
Palmar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Iceland22634 Posts
February 11 2014 09:32 GMT
#1371
This conversation is making Kosher look pretty good btw, I like his train of thought.
Computer says mafia
Palmar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Iceland22634 Posts
February 11 2014 09:37 GMT
#1372
On February 11 2014 18:32 Koshi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 11 2014 18:15 Palmar wrote:
I'm awful beyond earlygame tbh. I'm quite good at day 1 reads usually, but beyond that I tend to just try to lynch whoever thinks I'm scum because I'm a dumbass and I think everyone should always know I'm town when I'm town.

I need to confirm this, but initial reading of rayn's filter makes me think it's very, very unlikely he's mafia. I'm even contemplating asking people to lynch me over him, if unwilling to lynch marv.

There is a post of you out there that says geript, marv, VE, rayn, holyfare, yamato are scum. Oats/WoS town.

Could you explain those reads? and the progression to current times?


Gonna give you the brief version.

geript I think everyone understands why I want to lynch. Also notice how he has absolutely no presence in the thread since it became clear he wasn't getting lynched. He's like superscum and I still want to lynch him.

VE had, and still has no impact on the game and seems relatively content about it. He has driven no discussion or pushed no ideas hard. In general whenever I don't think VE is town, he's scum.

marv at the time had thrown out a really lazy read on Oats that may have been legit, but he made no effort to present it in concise enough manner for anyone to pick up on it. I gave Oats townie points and marv scum points for that interaction, although obviously my reads have changed since.

rayn I just felt like wasn't really saying much, and I think I was wrong now that I've spent some time reading him.

holyflare at the time was inactive.

WoS just writes so much... he's gotta be town.
Computer says mafia
Palmar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Iceland22634 Posts
February 11 2014 09:51 GMT
#1376
Here's some extra informations. I'm going to post what I thought of each player when I entered the game. (The game started I think on page 5 and I noticed it had started on page... 12? 13?). as these are my personal quick notes, I will mark anything I need to clarify in italics.

VisceraEyes
- he did that singyy thing.

This is probably the worst scumtell ever, but VE tends to do little nervous twitches like that when he's scum. I'm referring to this post:

On February 08 2014 09:42 VisceraEyes wrote:
I love town! And I hate the mafiaaaaaaaaa!


the drawn out aaaa at the end is to no one else but me a scumtell for VE. I don't expect anyone to buy this part, but hey, this is what I noted.


Rayn
- idk... first post maybe bad?

Can't even remember what I'm referring to. In hindsight there's nothing wrong with his inital post(s)

Alakaslam
- First post kinda bad
- Nice question about geript's vote thing.

WoS
- Kinda weird first post
- better later

Holyflar
- Good entrance ^^

I'm referring to this post: http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewpost.php?post_id=20749533

geript
-instavotes weaklings

Vayne
- Good point about mutually exclusive, I'm a fan

This post: http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/postmessage.php?quote=113&topic_id=442512

Oats
- Good question but fairly generic, re: geript vote

Corazon
- idk

yamato
- opens only trolling, but always bad and aids anywaya

Risen
- flip-flopped on his own opinion immediately. looks good enough

I'm talking about this:

On February 08 2014 15:44 Risen wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 08 2014 15:15 yamato77 wrote:
On February 08 2014 15:07 yamato77 wrote:
Slam trolling , alignment indicative?

The one game I thought I could read him as town he was mafia. Is his town play intentionally unreadable? Slam meta solved.

In case it isn't clear, I'm being sarcastic.

I'm more leaning towards Alaka/Cora being scum mates.


On February 08 2014 15:45 Risen wrote:
EBWOP: Nvm. Seems stupid now that I've aired the thought. Stupid because why would they do that? And not a why would scum do that but then they do it etcetc, just a why would anyone do that and no one is going to put thought into something like that.






yes I know some players are missing ^^

Computer says mafia
Palmar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Iceland22634 Posts
February 11 2014 09:52 GMT
#1377
Note those reads aren't up to date, it's what I felt 12 pages into the game. I'll add more current thoughts as I have time.
Computer says mafia
Palmar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Iceland22634 Posts
February 11 2014 09:53 GMT
#1378
On February 11 2014 18:51 marvellosity wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 11 2014 18:32 Palmar wrote:
This conversation is making Kosher look pretty good btw, I like his train of thought.

Well done, you got there eventually.


Got where?

Not much has changed, I've not wanted to lynch Alakaslam/Kosher the entire game.
Computer says mafia
Palmar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Iceland22634 Posts
February 11 2014 09:58 GMT
#1380
On February 11 2014 18:54 marvellosity wrote:
Alright, is your masterplan to keep on pointing out how townies look townie or something?


I don't understand, is this a bad thing?
Computer says mafia
Palmar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Iceland22634 Posts
February 11 2014 10:03 GMT
#1382
Why wouldn't we?
Computer says mafia
Palmar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Iceland22634 Posts
February 11 2014 10:16 GMT
#1383
On February 11 2014 19:01 marvellosity wrote:
Never mind.

Do we get a vote this phase?


Feel free to actually continue your train of thought. Why did you congratulate me on "getting there".
Computer says mafia
Palmar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Iceland22634 Posts
February 11 2014 10:26 GMT
#1387
On February 11 2014 19:24 marvellosity wrote:
no, I don't care. And i'm not enjoying this game and you two seem happy to play.

##Vote: marvellosity


lol dude.

What's wrong with this game?
Computer says mafia
Palmar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Iceland22634 Posts
February 11 2014 10:35 GMT
#1390
Well whatever you feel like dude

##vote marvellosity

Do you care enough to answer some questions about how to proceed? The most important one is how strong is your townread on rayn. I'm pretty sure he's town, but you know the guy better than I do, and it'd make my life a lot easier to be certain he's town.
Computer says mafia
Palmar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Iceland22634 Posts
February 11 2014 10:40 GMT
#1392
Just looking for confirmation here, respond in your own time.

I've said I don't think Koshi is mafia, while you pointed out something as "Odd", I still get the overall feeling that you also think he's town. Is this correct interpretation/memory of your thoughts?
Computer says mafia
Palmar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Iceland22634 Posts
February 11 2014 10:46 GMT
#1395
On February 11 2014 19:44 Koshi wrote:
totes town. Also totes sad with this move by marv.


I'm actually sort of okay with it, marv is a better scumplayer than rayn or I so the 0.00001% chance one of us is scum is marv. And marv seems to be genuinely okay with answering questions about his reads, which is great for bouncing ideas.

Btw we're down to nine people then (me, cora, marv, rayn, koshi are town).

need to figure out how to eliminate more.

Let's discuss Risen next. Kosher please feel free to join in as much as you can.
Computer says mafia
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