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On February 11 2014 06:30 Holyflare wrote:I just want to know the nominations.... -.- Feel like this dawn thing is kinda pointless as the optimal play is to NOT mention who you think is town like everyone (including rayn who said he agreed with this) has been doing. Also, wave, wtf are you doing? You just went through gracks filter and pointed out everything I had already brought to light to then reach.... no conclusion, yet, that was the thing you criticised/questioned me for? Also your post which has pre-flip associations in it shouldn't at all after your last 2 games: (Vengeful Mafia) Show nested quote +On February 07 2014 08:41 WaveofShadow wrote:On February 07 2014 08:36 Cephiro wrote:On February 07 2014 08:25 LSB wrote:
I am deeply concerned about Cephiro trying to get a townie to offer themselves as a sacrifice to get me shot. I know that I am a townie, so this falls under my "worst case scenario of townie shooting townie" argument.
This is incredibly different from Marv/HF who are both asking people to lynch them so they can pull the trigger themselves. Unless they are bluffing (which applies more to HF than Marv) mafia should never offer themselves as a sacrifice. 1) I have merely pointed out my suspicions on you and referred to you as my preferred lynch target since I was asked of that specific question. 2) If you are scum, there is no reason for scum to shoot you. I am not in need of tempting another townie to get to shoot you, I am just fine doing it myself. I figure it would be best to talk cooperatively among town who they want to keep around for lategame to ensure the best possibilities of winning. As you might have noticed, I am in no rush to make decisions about who to lynch or who to shoot this cycle, neither was I during last cycle. This is also a reason why I'm sad that Prome was the one to take the shot, since I would have preferred him to stay alive later in the game, and had an more unsure read take the shot.
@Wave: It's suboptimal play. Why guess if we can have facts? Certainly it might not even become a deciding factor of any sorts, but why take the risk? Why not go for the guaranteed information? Disagree. We have direct control over a lynch, not who gets shot. The shooters can technically do whatever they want despite what they may say, and they may or may not mean they're scum. If we lynch two people who then shoot town, and then game doesn't end either way, then we know one of them was scum--- the only thing that the 'guaranteed' information matters is for association cases, which I have very little faith in lately. (Shadow Mafia) Show nested quote +I've kidna forgotten about Toad so I dunno where I am on that. Thinking of it now I figure much of our downfall this game has been association so I don't think I want to start looking into waht pairs make sense and what don't.
We REALLY should be lynching on merits alone, and then once we have a flip we can start attempting to associate (but even then I'd lean towards solo analysis). So why did you start out the game with pre-flip associations in your mind when you know that it hasn't been working out for you and even said you don't want to do it in previous 2 games?
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You should read what I wrote. First of all, not mainly basing anything on association, but I'm mentioning it anyway. I still have a scum read on geript, that hasn't changed.
As for my conclusion on grack, if you'd read what I wrote, I said conclusion Iis pending based on his answer to my question which he hasn't given me. The bad prefliip business does not on its own influence what I think about either of them, and does not contradict at all what I'm doing
Palmar ignoring me again
Love it
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yeah sorry dude you just write so much.
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On February 11 2014 03:39 Risen wrote:
I'm guessing a setup nomination to get rid of me. Completely nonsensical people being put up.
can't tell if srs
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"let's get rid of those possible mislynches for late game" - scum 2014
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On February 11 2014 08:44 marvellosity wrote:Show nested quote +On February 11 2014 03:39 Risen wrote:
I'm guessing a setup nomination to get rid of me. Completely nonsensical people being put up.
can't tell if srs
Was a joke about how nonsensical night kills mean Risen's mafia lol
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I don't get it Risen but I'll take your word for it :p
Just reading the VE stuff, VE never thinks that "normally" for people calling what he was saying a "stretch". Town-VE had an exceptionally convoluted triple-bus theory for quite some time in Shadow.
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On February 11 2014 08:47 marvellosity wrote:
I don't get it Risen but I'll take your word for it :p
Just reading the VE stuff, VE never thinks that "normally" for people calling what he was saying a "stretch". Town-VE had an exceptionally convoluted triple-bus theory for quite some time in Shadow.
not sure his mindframe was the same as this one though
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On February 11 2014 08:47 marvellosity wrote:
I don't get it Risen but I'll take your word for it :p
Just reading the VE stuff, VE never thinks that "normally" for people calling what he was saying a "stretch". Town-VE had an exceptionally convoluted triple-bus theory for quite some time in Shadow.
Was he right?
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On February 11 2014 04:48 WaveofShadow wrote:Show nested quote +On February 11 2014 02:06 marvellosity wrote:I wish Palmar would stop pushing weird things. INTERLUDE. TERRIBLE META COMPARISON OF THE DAY: On May 22 2013 01:11 WaveofShadow wrote:
Why does it feel like you're the only one who's ever around for me to interact with marv? On February 09 2014 15:15 WaveofShadow wrote:
Fuck this I probably should just assume marv is town every game and just lick his asshole because he's often the only one that bothers to read anything I write. Show nested quote +On February 11 2014 02:29 Palmar wrote:
Best use of meta I've seen.
I'm totally off the WoS=town wagon now. Is this a fucking bait? Because just tell me now so I don't rage even harder than I'm about to. I HATE being baited. Are you REALLY using meta on me from almost a YEAR ago that not only proves absolutely nothing and ignores all circumstances of the games in which they take place, but also completely ignores my evolving reads on you in the games we've played together since? Like last time someone pulled this terrible meta shit completely unabashedly it was scum Palmar in Thug life, and hey, what do you know, Palmar is here agreeing with marv for some ungodly reason. Like...I really don't understand the point of this nor do I even think I fully understand the meta comparison you're trying to make. Am I overreacting and is this a joke? Because if so I'm not sure I get it.
Are you seriously reacting exactly the same way as mafia-DP to a totally obvious joke-meta post?
Like srsly.
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On February 11 2014 08:48 Risen wrote:Show nested quote +On February 11 2014 08:47 marvellosity wrote:
I don't get it Risen but I'll take your word for it :p
Just reading the VE stuff, VE never thinks that "normally" for people calling what he was saying a "stretch". Town-VE had an exceptionally convoluted triple-bus theory for quite some time in Shadow. Was he right?
no, these theories are almost never right.
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nominations in 40 minutes right?
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I mean, I literally said "interlude, terrible meta comparison of the day"
how can anyone believe that is serious?
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On February 11 2014 08:50 marvellosity wrote:
I mean, I literally said "interlude, terrible meta comparison of the day"
how can anyone believe that is serious?
why are you telling us about obvious scum :o
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Because I'm reading the thread and I like to comment on things that make me incredulous/amuse me/are important
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he didn't even react that angrily to toad's shittest case on him in shadow, this overreaction at koshi (who he thinks is scum) is totally unlike any wave that i've checked up on and his reaction to the rest of the thread is.... the same.
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On February 11 2014 05:42 VisceraEyes wrote:Show nested quote +On February 11 2014 04:49 Palmar wrote:
In sake of fairness, it's actually quite uncharacteristic for me to accept a wagon I don't feel good about. generally I'm all like "I never vote townies, no compromises". so VE isn't wrong. Like, arguably Palmar "didn't think Cora was town", but my opinion is that his posting looks like he doesn't even care if he's town or not, and the fact is that the Cora wagon was fast and it LOOKED like a town wagon. And that's a problem for me, because of the post above.
As an aside, mafia-Palmar will do what you're expecting town-Palmar to be doing.
reference: Rock Band. ScumPalmar threw a bitchfit that town was lynching prplhz on day 1 and refused to vote for him. So when you're expecting Palmar to do something as town, it's also something he mimics as mafia too, which definitely weakens the point considerably imo.
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EBWOP: Is joke. No kill plz <3
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The central accusation that rayn and I made against Wave still stands, specifically his non-attitude towards the main wagon in Cora + the stuff surrounding that.
Also how post-lynch he is "well i had my vote on scum and i know it" to "I'm dropping this now because you guys say so" even though that didn't stop him at all before.
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By the way, Wave, I haven't intentionally antagonised you at all, I've called you out on what I think is bullshit just like I do in every single game we play together.
Indeed one reason you were suspicious of me in Shadow is because i hadn't customarily slapped you down...
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