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##Vote: Corazon
Read my filter for the reasons, I had already pointed some stuff about him out. I also hated his early "get off the hook" post, and tbh, fuck him for wanting to kill me.
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Palmar
Iceland22633 Posts
##Unvote ##Vote: Corazon Read my filter for the reasons, I had already pointed some stuff about him out. I also hated his early "get off the hook" post, and tbh, fuck him for wanting to kill me. | ||
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Palmar
Iceland22633 Posts
On February 10 2014 06:21 VisceraEyes wrote: Palmer was that last bit about Cora necessary? Like okay if you agree with Holy case then fine but what did you hope to accomplish by attacking him personally? He's refused to answer my questions, he's attacked me without providing any reasoning other than apparently geript should be immune to scrutiny or something. If he's town he's putting literally no effort into the game. You know I don't like playing with people who don't try. | ||
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geript
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geript
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Palmar
Iceland22633 Posts
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Grackaroni
United States9856 Posts
On February 10 2014 06:25 geript wrote: Palmar is there a reason you're specifically ignoring a Grack lynch? Hi | ||
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Grackaroni
United States9856 Posts
On February 10 2014 06:26 Palmar wrote: yes Grack is my scumbuddy. Are you? I would think I would have bussed you by now. | ||
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raynpelikoneet
Finland43270 Posts
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Risen
United States7927 Posts
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geript
10024 Posts
First off, we can all agree that Grack's been useless this game. Unfortunately, this isn't alignment indicative of him though. There are some good reasons for him to be scum. + Show Spoiler [filters] + 1.He's objectively weird but no one has been interested in discussing him. Like he's gotten a complete free pass. 2. The Cora lynch has too much steam. There are way too many people ok with lynching Cora right now for it to end up being a good lynch. On top of that, Cora reacted to Palmar exactly how I had which should be a good litmus test. 3. Grack has bounced around to 3 different people with completely shitty reasons every time. 4. We get to avoid super awkward situations like happened in LXIV. 5. Grack has more swagger as town than he has as scum. Hell he's voted for himself both times as town (once was for mayor). He's also far more negative as scum than he is as town. It's weird to try and describe, but I'm not seeing any sense of confidence coming out of Grack. Most of his statements this game have been qualified: "I do think it could be" "I might be ok" "But you haven't done anything to try to solve the game?" There's a serious disconnect between these posts and how I read him in his other town games. 6. This is weak, but in his scum games he also uses quotes more than he does as town. It feels like his lack of confidence wants him to pad his filter with extra space. That's the bullet point. Rayn/VE your thoughts. | ||
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Grackaroni
United States9856 Posts
On February 10 2014 06:45 geript wrote: ##vote Grackaroni First off, we can all agree that Grack's been useless this game. Unfortunately, this isn't alignment indicative of him though. There are some good reasons for him to be scum. + Show Spoiler [filters] + 1.He's objectively weird but no one has been interested in discussing him. Like he's gotten a complete free pass. 2. The Cora lynch has too much steam. There are way too many people ok with lynching Cora right now for it to end up being a good lynch. On top of that, Cora reacted to Palmar exactly how I had which should be a good litmus test. 3. Grack has bounced around to 3 different people with completely shitty reasons every time. 4. We get to avoid super awkward situations like happened in LXIV. 5. Grack has more swagger as town than he has as scum. Hell he's voted for himself both times as town (once was for mayor). He's also far more negative as scum than he is as town. It's weird to try and describe, but I'm not seeing any sense of confidence coming out of Grack. Most of his statements this game have been qualified: "I do think it could be" "I might be ok" "But you haven't done anything to try to solve the game?" There's a serious disconnect between these posts and how I read him in his other town games. 6. This is weak, but in his scum games he also uses quotes more than he does as town. It feels like his lack of confidence wants him to pad his filter with extra space. That's the bullet point. Rayn/VE your thoughts. This is the only part I'm going to address. I'm definitely less confident about being correct with reads this game; I don't have anyone I really want to lynch too strongly except maybe Marv but he's actually made himself hard to read by just refusing to chat with me. | ||
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VisceraEyes
United States21171 Posts
And the Cora lynch - I agree that it having too much steam is troubling, but why does that reflect on Grack for any reason? | ||
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Grackaroni
United States9856 Posts
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raynpelikoneet
Finland43270 Posts
1 and 2 are not even about Grack. 3 is not necessarily scummy. 4 is wtf and has nothing to do with Grack's alignment. 5 might be something. 6 is crap. Not lynching Grack over Cora who has no reads at all. | ||
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marvellosity
United Kingdom36161 Posts
On February 10 2014 05:55 Palmar wrote: ok I'm back. My reading of the last few pages has been a bit sketchy, but whatever. I don't think I want to lynch Kosher. Other people I don't want to lynch include WoS, Oats, myself, Risen etc. I worry about the Cora wagon. I pointed out some inconsistency in his play myself, but his random vote on me there before he switched is really head scratching if he's mafia. Now his is obviously not going to make much sense to anyone but myself, but given how he's been wanting to kill me and been casually calling me out all game, it seems like a strange vote as it makes it more likely he'll flip AND if he flips mafia he's basically confirming me as town. So knowing my own alignment, his move just doesn't make any sense if he's mafia. I'd much rather lynch somewhere into geript, marv, VE, rayn, or even holyfare. I'm unsure about yamato... Oh Palmar. Why so scummy? | ||
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marvellosity
United Kingdom36161 Posts
He screams to the hills, all day every day. I consider his play to be a virtual mafiaclaim, similar to Artanis in Vengeful. The most damning thing is that he didn't go "OMG MARV IS TUNNELLING ME LIKE EVERY GAME". I guarantee he does that if he is town. Corazon does not see a vote on him by me and say NOTHING about it. Nuh uh. | ||
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Koshi
Belgium38799 Posts
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raynpelikoneet
Finland43270 Posts
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iamperfection
United States9647 Posts
Perfect Count Corazon [8]- VayneAuthority [1]- Oatsmaster [0]- raynpelikoneet [0]- geript [0]- Palmar [0]- Koshi [3]- VisceraEyes [0]- marvellosity [0- Grackaroni [1]- Risen [1]- Grackaroni Currently corazon is set to be lynched you have just under 2.5 hours remain deadline is 1930 est. You must vote! If you see a mistake notify me | ||
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geript
10024 Posts
On February 10 2014 06:56 VisceraEyes wrote: I've literally never been able to correctly identify Grack's alignment. I'll look at the filters you provided, but I'll tell you that your bullet points don't really convince me. Like, a few people are getting "free passes" and how does that mean that any of them are scum? While it's true that scum wouldn't be chomping at the bit to bring up their buddies if they're skating by, why could they just not be townies getting a free pass from other townies due to being lost in the shuffle? And the Cora lynch - I agree that it having too much steam is troubling, but why does that reflect on Grack for any reason? Because scum usually don't D1 bus their partners. I'm about to head to clinical zoo though. | ||
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