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Grackaroni
Profile Joined July 2011
United States9846 Posts
February 13 2014 00:57 GMT
#2381
But does it bother you that Koshi is town for being shit?
Grackaroni
Profile Joined July 2011
United States9846 Posts
February 13 2014 00:57 GMT
#2382
Because he's like total shit.
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30774 Posts
February 13 2014 01:01 GMT
#2383
It bothers me that people sign up for a game of logic and solving people's alignments to not play, not solve the game, afk vote people that are trying and then get told they "played well" at the end of it.

I haven't made a case on koshi so i don't care if he's playing awful but I made a case on you that NOBODY commented on APART FROM YOU. Maybe i'm wrong about you, and then I can look into that and you cran prove me wrong. People straight up ignore things that people put effort into and that is total shit play and it frustrates me to no end to the point where I don't want to play and understand why marv wanted to get lynched off on nominations day.
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30774 Posts
February 13 2014 01:02 GMT
#2384
I'm not angry at you specifically grack and i'm sorry that i'm in a fowl temper. I just want SOME discussion about something I invested a lot of my time into from someone other than the person the case is on.
Oatsmaster
Profile Joined October 2012
United States16628 Posts
February 13 2014 01:06 GMT
#2385
keir totes scum.
No gg, No skill.
Risen
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States7927 Posts
February 13 2014 01:08 GMT
#2386
Meh, not surprised.
Pufftrees Everyday>its like a rifter that just used X-Factor/Liquid'Nony: I hope no one lip read XD/Holyflare>it's like policy lynching but better/Resident Los Angeles bachelor
WaveofShadow
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada31494 Posts
February 13 2014 01:12 GMT
#2387
On February 13 2014 10:01 Holyflare wrote:
It bothers me that people sign up for a game of logic and solving people's alignments to not play, not solve the game, afk vote people that are trying and then get told they "played well" at the end of it.

I haven't made a case on koshi so i don't care if he's playing awful but I made a case on you that NOBODY commented on APART FROM YOU. Maybe i'm wrong about you, and then I can look into that and you cran prove me wrong. People straight up ignore things that people put effort into and that is total shit play and it frustrates me to no end to the point where I don't want to play and understand why marv wanted to get lynched off on nominations day.

This sounds mighty familiar.
Koshi IS playing like shit and people have townreads on him for similar reasons to Grack\. I completely understand Holy's frustrations here.

Re: Lynch
VA flips town, can still read him. As per above though wish he didn't play like ass balls when town because it makes games fucking impossible to win even if he DIDN'T get mislynched because then we get no help.
Some mighty shifty stuff going on with that lynch; never got to do dive of you Holy but I've got plenty of time now it seems over the next couple days.

No clue who is going to be nommed, going to analyze a little.
Also for filter, do voting analysis when I get a chance.

Gotta read Keirathi's pre-lynch stuff closely, still likely scum.
twitch.tv/waveofshadow ||| Winner of AHGL's So You Think You Can Cast! ||| Juicy Dad for lyfe ||| 'idk i get a kick out of stupid things' - Jarms Yarng
Oatsmaster
Profile Joined October 2012
United States16628 Posts
February 13 2014 06:20 GMT
#2388
nommed people probably Palmar+Koshi+town out of me/hf/grack/Risen.

No gg, No skill.
Palmar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Iceland22633 Posts
February 13 2014 12:12 GMT
#2389
it don't matter game lost gg wp we suck
Computer says mafia
Palmar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Iceland22633 Posts
February 13 2014 12:26 GMT
#2390
like assuming mafia puts up townies this nomination lynch, it'll be 5v4 next lynch after that. very hard, much difficulty.
Computer says mafia
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30774 Posts
February 13 2014 13:29 GMT
#2391
That's why we solve the game right now and discuss things instead of "oh marv what do i do" and afking
Oatsmaster
Profile Joined October 2012
United States16628 Posts
February 13 2014 13:48 GMT
#2392
Keir is scum, palmar/koshi/me arent so thats left with like 6, 3 of which are scum.
No gg, No skill.
Oatsmaster
Profile Joined October 2012
United States16628 Posts
February 13 2014 13:49 GMT
#2393
Its highly suspicious that yamato isnt really playing at all and VE is useless.
No gg, No skill.
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30774 Posts
February 13 2014 13:53 GMT
#2394
and a wagon started on me based on nothing and no discussion and then everyone afk'd at deadline
Palmar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Iceland22633 Posts
February 13 2014 13:59 GMT
#2395
Why do people insist on playing like shit, it's really annoying.
Computer says mafia
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30774 Posts
February 13 2014 14:05 GMT
#2396
On February 13 2014 22:59 Palmar wrote:
Why do people insist on playing like shit, it's really annoying.


.........
Palmar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Iceland22633 Posts
February 13 2014 14:17 GMT
#2397
Holyflare, look at your day 1. I will never be able to label you town because of your day one. Never.

Next time, play all the days of a game.
Computer says mafia
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30774 Posts
February 13 2014 14:23 GMT
#2398
You cannot complain about people being shit when you were a pretentious asshole that told me "You should cater your reads to the town" and almost got another towny lynched off which would be auto win for a VA mislynch in 2 days instead of reading what I wrote and discussing it you told me lul you gonna die and afk'd only to then ask marv what to do. Real hypocrtical of you.

As for who is scum I'm pretty sure I need to change a few things around based on what just happened.

b]VisceraEyes[/b] (1): Risen, Keirathi
VayneAuthority (5): Oatsmaster, Palmar, Koshi, Marvellosity, VisceraEyes, Risen, marvellosity, Koshi, Holyflare
Keirathi (1): WaveofShadow, Palmar, Holyflare
Oatsmaster (0): Grackaroni
Holyflare (4): Grackaroni, Grackaroni, VayneAuthority, Risen, marvellosity , Koshi, Palmar, Holyflare
WaveofShadow (1): yamato77
Grackaroni (0): Koshi, Holyflare

This was the final vote count. The wagon on me started initially because VA had a read on me based on nothing and then grack decided to join him and add to that nothingness case with nothing. Shortly after that people followed on. Marvellosity, Risen, Koshi, Palmar.

Koshi and marv finally got off me and marv is town but the remaining people Grack/Risen/Palmar are HIGHLY likely to contain mafia. The best method for scum to win the game would have been to kill a person that was town that wasn't VA because VA would have been a very very easy mislynch in the next lynch phase and so what better way to do that then to stick to the person that wasn't around and then afk when things seem to happen.

I've already made my case against grack and he states the timeline is wrong (not sure it is) but the rest of it still stands, his reads do not add up and he doesn't follow a coherent thought process through the entire game. Even now he is "frustrated" that nobody listens to him after not playing the game for 3 WHOLE DAYS and wondering why????

Palmar, I am so so so confused by him. Thought he was town, still kind of do, but his play around the lynch deadline and interactions around that are so bad it's frustrating to continue reading him as town. Why would he flat out ignore everything I wrote just to say "grack is town to me" and THEN lynch me off based on nothing straight after I made the case instead of generating discussion and trying to solve the game? He then asked marv to pretty much make his read for him at the end of the day:

On February 13 2014 09:19 Palmar wrote:
marv what do?

help pls


and marv didn't respond and he proceeded to further afk and THEN THE NEXT DAY CALL EVERYONE ELSE BAD FOR NOT PLAYING. This doesn't align with what I see as someone who wants to win by finding the remaining mafia.

Risen on the other hand has done nothing all game, has sheeped reads, sheeped marv and then when marv went back off me he decided to turn sheep mode off and not listen to anything despite not being around for the times when it counts. He then did not do anything at deadline but afk. He is quite likely scum for this because I know he was around at the deadline time.
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30774 Posts
February 13 2014 14:25 GMT
#2399
On February 13 2014 23:17 Palmar wrote:
Holyflare, look at your day 1. I will never be able to label you town because of your day one. Never.

Next time, play all the days of a game.


I can totally control my schedule. I didn't make excuses like half the people have done in this game and my activity is never this shit as was pointed out to you by marv and rayn several times. Yet you took it increasingly to mean that I was scum and never ASKED me about it. Don't even bother.

I spent so much time on the cora case because in Vengeful I got all my reads wrong and it was very frustrating so I wanted to tryhard and MAKE SURE that I got my reads right this game, so I invested a lot of time into research in a lot of people and I thought I was right on cora because of his lack of attitude which was quite clearly not the case....
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30774 Posts
February 13 2014 14:27 GMT
#2400
I've pasted my profile like 3 times already, why don't you actually check out my scum games and see my filters.

LXIII: 26 pages
Hogwarts: 28 pages
Back to the Basics: 11 pages in 1 day

I spam like shit in scum games which I haven't done here. I want to solve the game and nobody responds to anything I say with discussion, just "yeh holyflare is scum".
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