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Grackaroni
Profile Joined July 2011
United States9846 Posts
February 13 2014 00:26 GMT
#2358
freaking Koshi.
Grackaroni
Profile Joined July 2011
United States9846 Posts
February 13 2014 00:33 GMT
#2369
Booo Marv. Guy only lynches town.
Grackaroni
Profile Joined July 2011
United States9846 Posts
February 13 2014 00:33 GMT
#2370
Response to his thoughts on my entrance.
Grackaroni
Profile Joined July 2011
United States9846 Posts
February 13 2014 00:46 GMT
#2375
This is honestly really frustrating to me. I understand that I don't put enough effort into the game but my vote fairly consistently lands on scum and a lot of people just seem absolutely incapable of recognizing what kind of plays comes from town and what kind of play comes from mafia.

Grackaroni
Profile Joined July 2011
United States9846 Posts
February 13 2014 00:55 GMT
#2379
Because you want them to think I am mafia?
Grackaroni
Profile Joined July 2011
United States9846 Posts
February 13 2014 00:57 GMT
#2381
But does it bother you that Koshi is town for being shit?
Grackaroni
Profile Joined July 2011
United States9846 Posts
February 13 2014 00:57 GMT
#2382
Because he's like total shit.
Grackaroni
Profile Joined July 2011
United States9846 Posts
February 13 2014 14:42 GMT
#2405
On February 13 2014 23:23 Holyflare wrote:
You cannot complain about people being shit when you were a pretentious asshole that told me "You should cater your reads to the town" and almost got another towny lynched off which would be auto win for a VA mislynch in 2 days instead of reading what I wrote and discussing it you told me lul you gonna die and afk'd only to then ask marv what to do. Real hypocrtical of you.

As for who is scum I'm pretty sure I need to change a few things around based on what just happened.

b]VisceraEyes (1): Risen, Keirathi
VayneAuthority (5): Oatsmaster, Palmar, Koshi, Marvellosity, VisceraEyes, Risen, marvellosity, Koshi, Holyflare
Keirathi (1): WaveofShadow, Palmar, Holyflare
Oatsmaster (0): Grackaroni
Holyflare (4): Grackaroni, Grackaroni, VayneAuthority, Risen, marvellosity , Koshi, Palmar, Holyflare
WaveofShadow (1): yamato77
Grackaroni (0): Koshi, Holyflare

This was the final vote count. The wagon on me started initially because VA had a read on me based on nothing and then grack decided to join him and add to that nothingness case with nothing. Shortly after that people followed on. Marvellosity, Risen, Koshi, Palmar.

Koshi and marv finally got off me and marv is town but the remaining people Grack/Risen/Palmar are HIGHLY likely to contain mafia. The best method for scum to win the game would have been to kill a person that was town that wasn't VA because VA would have been a very very easy mislynch in the next lynch phase and so what better way to do that then to stick to the person that wasn't around and then afk when things seem to happen.

I've already made my case against grack and he states the timeline is wrong (not sure it is) but the rest of it still stands, his reads do not add up and he doesn't follow a coherent thought process through the entire game. Even now he is "frustrated" that nobody listens to him after not playing the game for 3 WHOLE DAYS and wondering why????

Palmar, I am so so so confused by him. Thought he was town, still kind of do, but his play around the lynch deadline and interactions around that are so bad it's frustrating to continue reading him as town. Why would he flat out ignore everything I wrote just to say "grack is town to me" and THEN lynch me off based on nothing straight after I made the case instead of generating discussion and trying to solve the game? He then asked marv to pretty much make his read for him at the end of the day:

Show nested quote +
On February 13 2014 09:19 Palmar wrote:
marv what do?

help pls


and marv didn't respond and he proceeded to further afk and THEN THE NEXT DAY CALL EVERYONE ELSE BAD FOR NOT PLAYING. This doesn't align with what I see as someone who wants to win by finding the remaining mafia.

Risen on the other hand has done nothing all game, has sheeped reads, sheeped marv and then when marv went back off me he decided to turn sheep mode off and not listen to anything despite not being around for the times when it counts. He then did not do anything at deadline but afk. He is quite likely scum for this because I know he was around at the deadline time.
[/b]
This is really inaccurate. Scum are really unlikely to play like that and draw attention to themselves in that way when they know that Marv will be gone later and they can just sit back and hide until the next cycle and last second switch on to a town lurker.
Grackaroni
Profile Joined July 2011
United States9846 Posts
February 13 2014 14:49 GMT
#2409
On February 13 2014 23:47 Holyflare wrote:
Show nested quote +
This is really inaccurate. Scum are really unlikely to play like that and draw attention to themselves in that way when they know that Marv will be gone later and they can just sit back and hide until the next cycle and last second switch on to a town lurker.


I hope you are actually kidding. I was afk when half the votes were placed onto me and MARVELOSSITY JOINED THE WAGON. That was the easiest scum switch to an afk person lynch that wasn't VA in the history of TL Mafia. There would be nobody looking bad because "oh he was afk" and when I returned I got angry that nobody was discussing shit so then it's "oh why would he rage as town". So portraying that as something bad would be ridiculous. Scum only need 1 more mislynch to win and who would be the easiest mislynch in the land? Oh yeh that's VA.

And I spent the entire day trying to get Marvellosity to switch. That's the hardest fucking scum switch in TL mafia history when I could literally just chill all day and then wait for a townie to vote VE or Yamato or Risen or whoever else is a town lurker and last second vote switch to win the game.
Grackaroni
Profile Joined July 2011
United States9846 Posts
February 13 2014 14:49 GMT
#2410
I quit.
Grackaroni
Profile Joined July 2011
United States9846 Posts
February 13 2014 14:50 GMT
#2411
Everything he does is meant to make me look bad. And it's really fucking obvious.
Grackaroni
Profile Joined July 2011
United States9846 Posts
February 13 2014 14:51 GMT
#2412
He doesn't even think before he does it. It will be like, Grack's defense was really shit.
I will respond your case was bad
And he will go, "OH Yeah Grack? Why are you commenting on worthless stuff? Hmmmmmmmm?"
Grackaroni
Profile Joined July 2011
United States9846 Posts
February 13 2014 14:56 GMT
#2415
Yeah I agree that is terrible.
Grackaroni
Profile Joined July 2011
United States9846 Posts
February 13 2014 14:57 GMT
#2417
On February 13 2014 23:53 Holyflare wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 13 2014 23:49 Grackaroni wrote:
On February 13 2014 23:47 Holyflare wrote:
This is really inaccurate. Scum are really unlikely to play like that and draw attention to themselves in that way when they know that Marv will be gone later and they can just sit back and hide until the next cycle and last second switch on to a town lurker.


I hope you are actually kidding. I was afk when half the votes were placed onto me and MARVELOSSITY JOINED THE WAGON. That was the easiest scum switch to an afk person lynch that wasn't VA in the history of TL Mafia. There would be nobody looking bad because "oh he was afk" and when I returned I got angry that nobody was discussing shit so then it's "oh why would he rage as town". So portraying that as something bad would be ridiculous. Scum only need 1 more mislynch to win and who would be the easiest mislynch in the land? Oh yeh that's VA.

And I spent the entire day trying to get Marvellosity to switch. That's the hardest fucking scum switch in TL mafia history when I could literally just chill all day and then wait for a townie to vote VE or Yamato or Risen or whoever else is a town lurker and last second vote switch to win the game.


Ignoring the fact that those 3 could be not-town lurkers? Marv switched on his own volition not because you "convinced" him. You had no input in his switch whatsoever because you had NO reason to vote me just like VA. You weren't on the VA wagon who you called scum the entirety of the past 2 days and he flipped town, that looks so bad.

There wouldn't be anything to switch to if it wasn't for me pestering him all day long.
Grackaroni
Profile Joined July 2011
United States9846 Posts
February 13 2014 14:58 GMT
#2418
On February 13 2014 23:57 Holyflare wrote:
and I'm here posting now and doing vote analysis and YOU are shitting on me on such insignificant points and not helping to progress the game. Yet you are the one that wants to quit?! Where is the logic there at all.

What vote analysis? You said everyone voting you is scum. Then I said I think it's the opposite. Then you said, "Why dont you comment on something relevant, scum?
Grackaroni
Profile Joined July 2011
United States9846 Posts
February 13 2014 14:59 GMT
#2420
On February 13 2014 23:58 Holyflare wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 13 2014 23:57 Grackaroni wrote:
On February 13 2014 23:53 Holyflare wrote:
On February 13 2014 23:49 Grackaroni wrote:
On February 13 2014 23:47 Holyflare wrote:
This is really inaccurate. Scum are really unlikely to play like that and draw attention to themselves in that way when they know that Marv will be gone later and they can just sit back and hide until the next cycle and last second switch on to a town lurker.


I hope you are actually kidding. I was afk when half the votes were placed onto me and MARVELOSSITY JOINED THE WAGON. That was the easiest scum switch to an afk person lynch that wasn't VA in the history of TL Mafia. There would be nobody looking bad because "oh he was afk" and when I returned I got angry that nobody was discussing shit so then it's "oh why would he rage as town". So portraying that as something bad would be ridiculous. Scum only need 1 more mislynch to win and who would be the easiest mislynch in the land? Oh yeh that's VA.

And I spent the entire day trying to get Marvellosity to switch. That's the hardest fucking scum switch in TL mafia history when I could literally just chill all day and then wait for a townie to vote VE or Yamato or Risen or whoever else is a town lurker and last second vote switch to win the game.


Ignoring the fact that those 3 could be not-town lurkers? Marv switched on his own volition not because you "convinced" him. You had no input in his switch whatsoever because you had NO reason to vote me just like VA. You weren't on the VA wagon who you called scum the entirety of the past 2 days and he flipped town, that looks so bad.

There wouldn't be anything to switch to if it wasn't for me pestering him all day long.


marv can easily start a counter wagon on his own ~_~ as can be seen since 3 people joined the wagon after he did and not when you "convinced" him

Because he's fucking Marv. He didn't give any reasoning and then as soon as he says to lynch you everyone piles on. But he wouldn't have ever done it if I hadn't bugged him all day long.
Grackaroni
Profile Joined July 2011
United States9846 Posts
February 13 2014 15:03 GMT
#2423
On February 14 2014 00:01 Holyflare wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 13 2014 23:58 Grackaroni wrote:
On February 13 2014 23:57 Holyflare wrote:
and I'm here posting now and doing vote analysis and YOU are shitting on me on such insignificant points and not helping to progress the game. Yet you are the one that wants to quit?! Where is the logic there at all.

What vote analysis? You said everyone voting you is scum. Then I said I think it's the opposite. Then you said, "Why dont you comment on something relevant, scum?


You have 0 basis for voting me, the person that you had called scum only in the past day because of something "you'd explain in the morning" only to then NOT explain it and get "frustrated" when people didn't listen to you. Risen consolidated to avoid shenanigans and then DID SHENANIGANS and afk'd on someone that wasn't around. Palmar didn't even read anything I wrote about you and said you were town and then complained that I wasn't catering to the audience and voted me for being angry only to then want to sheep marv but marv wasn't around so then he afk'd.

Only me, you and koshi were around for the vote. That is terrible.

-Towniest thing I've heard all day.

I didn't give any reasoning on Mocsta either and that didn't change him being scum.
Grackaroni
Profile Joined July 2011
United States9846 Posts
February 13 2014 15:03 GMT
#2424
On February 14 2014 00:02 Holyflare wrote:
You also called VA scum for the past 2 days only to NOT vote him because you wanted to vote me who was afk.

Because I'm skilled.
Grackaroni
Profile Joined July 2011
United States9846 Posts
February 13 2014 15:06 GMT
#2428
On February 14 2014 00:04 Holyflare wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 14 2014 00:03 Grackaroni wrote:
On February 14 2014 00:01 Holyflare wrote:
On February 13 2014 23:58 Grackaroni wrote:
On February 13 2014 23:57 Holyflare wrote:
and I'm here posting now and doing vote analysis and YOU are shitting on me on such insignificant points and not helping to progress the game. Yet you are the one that wants to quit?! Where is the logic there at all.

What vote analysis? You said everyone voting you is scum. Then I said I think it's the opposite. Then you said, "Why dont you comment on something relevant, scum?


You have 0 basis for voting me, the person that you had called scum only in the past day because of something "you'd explain in the morning" only to then NOT explain it and get "frustrated" when people didn't listen to you. Risen consolidated to avoid shenanigans and then DID SHENANIGANS and afk'd on someone that wasn't around. Palmar didn't even read anything I wrote about you and said you were town and then complained that I wasn't catering to the audience and voted me for being angry only to then want to sheep marv but marv wasn't around so then he afk'd.

Only me, you and koshi were around for the vote. That is terrible.

-Towniest thing I've heard all day.

I didn't give any reasoning on Mocsta either and that didn't change him being scum.


So your frustration is then fake?

No what frustrates me is that nobody is willing to ever follow me and are only willing to follow Marv/BC and we always lose. If I were allowed to post under Marv's account in a posting style that looked like Marv's then scum would be dead right now.
Grackaroni
Profile Joined July 2011
United States9846 Posts
February 13 2014 15:07 GMT
#2430
On February 14 2014 00:06 Holyflare wrote:
This thread was fucking dead. I could have just afk'd like 3/4 of the people in this game and got on with my life but here I am trying to do SOME analysis even if you call it fucking "bad".

Ok and I'm stuck here as the only one responding to this again.
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