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sidesprang
Profile Joined January 2009
Norway1033 Posts
February 04 2014 03:34 GMT
#161
@ jay, dude go look at my 2 recent games instead of the 3 year old ones...

Newbie Mini Mafia, as Vanilla Town

II Titanic Mini Mafia, as Allignment Cop

This is more my meta, the others you will not learn anything from.
Float like a butterfly, sting like a bee.
JonnyLaw
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States3482 Posts
February 04 2014 03:41 GMT
#162
You played with him a month ago in lolpyp

Anyway, I'm not waffling on anything. I'm trying to figure out the game. If you have firm convictions this early you're an idiot or a god.
cakemanofdoom
Profile Joined September 2009
336 Posts
February 04 2014 03:41 GMT
#163
Eh jay you don't like my choice of topics? suki's first post talked about gender, niceness, and her feeling on policy lynches in general. But no detail on what she thought of Koshi's particular policy, which imo is the most important thing she could have talked about. Feels like she was trying to seem helpful while avoiding anything that mattered.

Plus I liked the way discussion was going for the other things.
jaybrundage
Profile Joined December 2009
United States3921 Posts
February 04 2014 03:42 GMT
#164
On February 04 2014 12:29 sidesprang wrote:
People should post enough to be readable and enough to get their scumreads out. I don't belive in a set number.

So what im worried about is that as I have shown a good bit with my recent posts. Is that you aren't going to put enough posts in the thread that we can read you. Your games are testament to this. People have trouble reading you because of your lack of posting. If your scum you seem too put more effort into the game. (I can relate to this with my newer games as scum you have complete information and know what your doing, as newer town it sometimes just feels like your fumbling around in the dark)

So having all this in consideration. I would actually like you to set a post amount that you feel you should be able to reach with in a cycle. I am all about quality over quantity but we need a little bit of both. Set for your self a arbitrary number that you think is maybe a bit high but reasonable and try to reach that goal. Of course I want you to put thought and have a clear meaning in your post. I can not stress this enough. When you post something know what you want to accomplish with your post. I don't want you to spam. I just think you set the bar to low for your self in post count and I would like to improve this part of your town game.

What do ya say?

The more you sweat in training, the less you bleed in battle.
jaybrundage
Profile Joined December 2009
United States3921 Posts
February 04 2014 03:44 GMT
#165
On February 04 2014 12:34 sidesprang wrote:
@ jay, dude go look at my 2 recent games instead of the 3 year old ones...

Newbie Mini Mafia, as Vanilla Town

II Titanic Mini Mafia, as Allignment Cop

This is more my meta, the others you will not learn anything from.

Sweet I will take a look at those. I posted my last post with out seeing this.
The more you sweat in training, the less you bleed in battle.
suki
Profile Joined August 2009
Canada1159 Posts
February 04 2014 03:45 GMT
#166
@cakeman, you said you thought jay's post was okay. Is your impression of jay at this point more townie or scummy?
jaybrundage
Profile Joined December 2009
United States3921 Posts
February 04 2014 03:47 GMT
#167
On February 04 2014 12:41 cakemanofdoom wrote:
Eh jay you don't like my choice of topics? suki's first post talked about gender, niceness, and her feeling on policy lynches in general. But no detail on what she thought of Koshi's particular policy, which imo is the most important thing she could have talked about. Feels like she was trying to seem helpful while avoiding anything that mattered.

Plus I liked the way discussion was going for the other things.

I don't think Koshi's policy specifically was that important. We aren't going to arbitrary lynch someone who has under 40 posts. She gave her opinion on policy lynches. I felt like it was focusing on a detail that wasn't very important. There were quite a few other things in the thread that i thought were more noticeable or important.
The more you sweat in training, the less you bleed in battle.
Balla24
Profile Joined December 2011
2322 Posts
February 04 2014 03:49 GMT
#168
+1 jb.

Sidesprang those 2 games you posted still show what JB is saying though. You lurk a lot.

On February 04 2014 12:29 sidesprang wrote:
People should post enough to be readable and enough to get their scumreads out. I don't belive in a set number.


This is the bare minimum for a townie to be readable, and really not all that acceptable. Not a good line of thought. Get your scumreads out and scumhunt.
jaybrundage
Profile Joined December 2009
United States3921 Posts
February 04 2014 03:49 GMT
#169
On February 04 2014 12:45 suki wrote:
@cakeman, you said you thought jay's post was okay. Is your impression of jay at this point more townie or scummy?

Suki I want to see more of your thinking on me. What do you think of the post I copy pasted over from my Spreadsheet. I talked a bit about you in it. What do you think about it.

I want to know what YOU think? Talk about me please :D Or anyone at all but i want to hear your opinion. I gave you my opinion on everyone in the game.
The more you sweat in training, the less you bleed in battle.
cakemanofdoom
Profile Joined September 2009
336 Posts
February 04 2014 03:52 GMT
#170
I think jay's townie. Some of his posts are way wordier than they need to be imo, but I like most of his reasoning, and that seems more important than whether or not he's posting fluff.
Balla24
Profile Joined December 2011
2322 Posts
February 04 2014 03:53 GMT
#171
Your notes are basically the same thing I was thinking except on cakeman. He was bringing new information to the thread that nobody pointed out before. That's good, not bad.
suki
Profile Joined August 2009
Canada1159 Posts
February 04 2014 03:54 GMT
#172
On February 04 2014 10:38 cakemanofdoom wrote:
Hi everyone

Show nested quote +
On February 04 2014 07:25 suki wrote:

3. Koshi you're advocating policy lynching people who don't hit 40 posts a day? That's nice, however I don't policy lynch unless there's no better option for lynching scum.


What did you mean "that's nice"? Why didn't you give thoughts on the policy instead of just making a generic statement against policy lynches?


Ah, I actually totally missed this post. I was wondering why you were continuing to hamper me on my 'lack of comment' on Koshi's 'policy lynch' discussion.

I don't policy lynch. Is that clear enough?

Also, I notice you haven't actually stated your thoughts on Koshi's policy, but instead are just asking people questions and saying how my opening post was "trying to seem helpful while avoiding anything that mattered".

Can you please let me know who you think is scummy at the moment, or answer some of jay's list of questions which you thought were relevant enough topics? Because at the moment you seem to be trying to seem helpful while avoiding anything that matters.
suki
Profile Joined August 2009
Canada1159 Posts
February 04 2014 03:57 GMT
#173
On February 04 2014 12:49 jaybrundage wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 04 2014 12:45 suki wrote:
@cakeman, you said you thought jay's post was okay. Is your impression of jay at this point more townie or scummy?

Suki I want to see more of your thinking on me. What do you think of the post I copy pasted over from my Spreadsheet. I talked a bit about you in it. What do you think about it.

I want to know what YOU think? Talk about me please :D Or anyone at all but i want to hear your opinion. I gave you my opinion on everyone in the game.


I like your post and your line of thinking thus far. The fact that you've put a lot of thought into sidesprang's meta is a point in your favour as it's less likely scum would do that.

Your read on me is whatever. I'm pressuring you the most so the fact that you think I'm scummy is understandable I guess.

Anyways you're coming off to me as town for now. I don't have any solid reads on scum at the moment so I am just throwing out my line and seeing what I can reel back in.
Balla24
Profile Joined December 2011
2322 Posts
February 04 2014 03:59 GMT
#174
On February 04 2014 12:57 suki wrote:

I like your post and your line of thinking thus far. The fact that you've put a lot of thought into sidesprang's meta is a point in your favour as it's less likely scum would do that.



That's wrong IMO. I use meta like crazy to justify my otherwise inexplicable townreads early on when I'm scum. Meta is as much as a tool for mafia as it is for town.
suki
Profile Joined August 2009
Canada1159 Posts
February 04 2014 04:00 GMT
#175
On February 04 2014 12:53 Balla24 wrote:
Your notes are basically the same thing I was thinking except on cakeman. He was bringing new information to the thread that nobody pointed out before. That's good, not bad.


Hi Balla~

Are you saying that cakeman is bringing new information to the thread because I don't see it. He's spent a lot of time saying how he doesn't like my opening post for not addressing Koshi's topic, when clearly I addressed it. Also, he didn't even contribute his own thoughts on the matter, even though Koshi's policy was the most "relevant thing" to talk about.
jaybrundage
Profile Joined December 2009
United States3921 Posts
February 04 2014 04:03 GMT
#176
On February 04 2014 12:57 suki wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 04 2014 12:49 jaybrundage wrote:
On February 04 2014 12:45 suki wrote:
@cakeman, you said you thought jay's post was okay. Is your impression of jay at this point more townie or scummy?

Suki I want to see more of your thinking on me. What do you think of the post I copy pasted over from my Spreadsheet. I talked a bit about you in it. What do you think about it.

I want to know what YOU think? Talk about me please :D Or anyone at all but i want to hear your opinion. I gave you my opinion on everyone in the game.


I like your post and your line of thinking thus far. The fact that you've put a lot of thought into sidesprang's meta is a point in your favour as it's less likely scum would do that.

Your read on me is whatever. I'm pressuring you the most so the fact that you think I'm scummy is understandable I guess.

Anyways you're coming off to me as town for now. I don't have any solid reads on scum at the moment so I am just throwing out my line and seeing what I can reel back in.

The spread sheet was made before you started pressuring. Don't confuse my suspicion with an OMGUS. My thinking of why you were scummy when i wrote it was because of your waffleing with your poke at jonny. You made a poke at him. Asking him of his two "different" opinions. Then you said he didn't change his mind when it seemed obvious he did. And when balla poked at your post you said you never suspected jonny as scum. Which just seems way overly defensive. Why wouldn't you suspect everyone at this point until they prove them self as town. I don't see intention behind your posts besides to post for the sake of it.
The more you sweat in training, the less you bleed in battle.
suki
Profile Joined August 2009
Canada1159 Posts
February 04 2014 04:04 GMT
#177
On February 04 2014 12:59 Balla24 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 04 2014 12:57 suki wrote:

I like your post and your line of thinking thus far. The fact that you've put a lot of thought into sidesprang's meta is a point in your favour as it's less likely scum would do that.



That's wrong IMO. I use meta like crazy to justify my otherwise inexplicable townreads early on when I'm scum. Meta is as much as a tool for mafia as it is for town.


The use of meta isn't what's townie to me. It's the fact that he went into this huge spiel about how sidesprang is probably going to lurk and have a low post count, in order to encourage sidesprang to post more. He didn't use the meta to provide a read. As scum I would have expected him to hold back and pop out that meta when it would be most effective to cause a mislynch or whatever.

And anyways jay's most recent posts also feel townie to me so in general I am getting a townie vibe from him.
suki
Profile Joined August 2009
Canada1159 Posts
February 04 2014 04:05 GMT
#178
On February 04 2014 13:03 jaybrundage wrote:I don't see intention behind your posts besides to post for the sake of it.


We were three pages into Day 1. What do you expect? I think I was successful as plenty of discussion has come up from it and we're not wasting time talking about policy anymore.
Balla24
Profile Joined December 2011
2322 Posts
February 04 2014 04:05 GMT
#179
On February 04 2014 13:00 suki wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 04 2014 12:53 Balla24 wrote:
Your notes are basically the same thing I was thinking except on cakeman. He was bringing new information to the thread that nobody pointed out before. That's good, not bad.


Hi Balla~

Are you saying that cakeman is bringing new information to the thread because I don't see it. He's spent a lot of time saying how he doesn't like my opening post for not addressing Koshi's topic, when clearly I addressed it. Also, he didn't even contribute his own thoughts on the matter, even though Koshi's policy was the most "relevant thing" to talk about.


I'm saying I disagree with what JB said here:

On February 04 2014 12:24 jaybrundage wrote:


4. cakemanofdoom no content There is quite a bit of things in the game atm and he chooses to comment on suki saying thats nice. Pretty lackluster choice



I don't find what he chose to comment on lackluster because it was new information (or perhaps the better word is PoV). I don't really agree that it was CLEAR what you said, but whatever.

Not contributing his own thoughts is annoying, but I can't say its scummy. A lot had already been said about the subject. I don't fault him for not saying anything about it.
cakemanofdoom
Profile Joined September 2009
336 Posts
February 04 2014 04:05 GMT
#180
suki:
Yeah, I don't have too strong scumreads yet. Hopeless, sidesprang, LoneMeow, Koshi, oats, alaskaslam all don't have many meaningful posts so I'm cautious of them. Can't really pick out mafia from them yet, though.

I thought your first post was rather scummy. I also didn't like how you said you just thought Jonny was interesting, not scummy; interesting should generally mean "possibly scum" anyways. Disagreed with you about jay. So overall, pretty scummy.


When I got on and started posting, it felt redundant to talk about Koshi's policy since I just agreed with general consensus that 40 posts was a bit arbitrary, but quality is more important than post count. So I didn't talk about it.
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