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On February 19 2014 12:09 Grackaroni wrote:Show nested quote +On February 13 2014 06:00 JarJarDrinks wrote:Suspicious of IAmRobik. I don't like that he sheeped a townread on VIVAX420s 1 post. I thought he was joking @ first but he went on to defend it. And I really don't like that thinks its scummy that vivax would question it: On February 13 2014 05:44 IAmRobik wrote:
Additionally, your post questioning it is awkward. If someone calls me town I'd be happy as all hell. It's d1. Who gives a damn really on any sort of rationalizaiton. That's like the opposite of how a townie should think. If someone gives you a townread for no good reason, how do you not immediately get suspicious of that person? Show nested quote +On February 13 2014 06:17 JarJarDrinks wrote:On February 13 2014 06:07 IAmRobik wrote:
2) I don't think that's the opposite of how town should think. If people have reads that they want to keep to themselves for the time being that's fine. If people want to put out reads just to promote conversation that's fine too. If I'm called town I'm thrilled. I'm town. I know I'm town. If someone else that's town realizes I'm town, that's one less person that I need to convince and 1 less mislynch that town wastes.
Unless that person is scum of course. Like you say "If someone else that's town realizes I'm town" well how would you know that person is town? You wouldn't of course. And when the reasoning is terrible (ie: like urs was) it should immediately raise ur eyebrows. Show nested quote +On February 13 2014 12:57 JarJarDrinks wrote:k IamRob reminds me alot of vayne in his early games where has a big ego about his play and thinks that everyone else is wrong about the way mafia should be played. So while I think it's bad play, I do think it's town play. I really didn't like how rayn jumped all over him for it since I think it looked like he was just trying to find something to jump on and I feel like rayn should know better. He's since backed off but it's possible it's just cause IamRob gave him no choice by the amount of posting he's doing.Really don't like Mattchew right now. Everyone of his posts seem carefully non-confrontational and he's giving out way too many town reads. By my count he's had townreads on vivax, iamrobik, quantum and rayn while the closest thing to a scumread is this: On February 13 2014 06:27 Mattchew wrote:
Is lynch grack and not look back I'm not sure if he actually thinks grack is scum or not since that's all he says about him. I think these first 3 quotes in JJD's filter are rather scummy. The first thing he does is attack Robik alongside Rayn, and then when the thread comes to the conclusion that Robik is town he comes back and says he thinks Robik is just bad and that he suspects Rayn for attacking Robik. I don't really understand this from a town POV because earlier he thought that Robik was suspicious, so Rayn pushing him should still feel justified and shouldn't have felt like Rayn was just looking to find something to jump on. Rayn was like totally all over Irubik, making a ton of posts, calling him scum, and eventually voting for him. All I did was question a few of his posts.
I mean, u really think it's scummy to have my first bunch of posts attack the 2 most active posters?
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On February 19 2014 12:23 VIVAX420 wrote:Show nested quote +On February 19 2014 11:47 roundabound wrote:
Vivax
I have noticed this game you refuse to take a firm position on anything.
Instead you put out some musings and let others carry the work load for you
This pattern is repeating again.
I'm hesitant to lynching when there are so many unknown alignments. Kush put the vote after I unvoted. Thrawn pretty much knew how to play IML. Lengthen the days, increase the time town has. You prefer to opt for quick lynches and get frustrated with no occurring lynches even when there are so many options for people being scum. Besides, you might want to get to the point with your made observations. Do you suspect me of being scum or is this just something you wrote as offensive defense. ~V
This is not fucking true and you are twisting anything to look something else than it really is and now Vivax, i want to know why the hell are you doing this????
~rayn
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Like your arguments are HUGE stretches and misreprestentations and that's fucking bad Vivax.
~rayn
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On February 19 2014 12:24 JarJarDrinks wrote:Show nested quote +On February 19 2014 12:09 Grackaroni wrote:On February 13 2014 06:00 JarJarDrinks wrote:Suspicious of IAmRobik. I don't like that he sheeped a townread on VIVAX420s 1 post. I thought he was joking @ first but he went on to defend it. And I really don't like that thinks its scummy that vivax would question it: On February 13 2014 05:44 IAmRobik wrote:
Additionally, your post questioning it is awkward. If someone calls me town I'd be happy as all hell. It's d1. Who gives a damn really on any sort of rationalizaiton. That's like the opposite of how a townie should think. If someone gives you a townread for no good reason, how do you not immediately get suspicious of that person? On February 13 2014 06:17 JarJarDrinks wrote:On February 13 2014 06:07 IAmRobik wrote:
2) I don't think that's the opposite of how town should think. If people have reads that they want to keep to themselves for the time being that's fine. If people want to put out reads just to promote conversation that's fine too. If I'm called town I'm thrilled. I'm town. I know I'm town. If someone else that's town realizes I'm town, that's one less person that I need to convince and 1 less mislynch that town wastes.
Unless that person is scum of course. Like you say "If someone else that's town realizes I'm town" well how would you know that person is town? You wouldn't of course. And when the reasoning is terrible (ie: like urs was) it should immediately raise ur eyebrows. On February 13 2014 12:57 JarJarDrinks wrote:k IamRob reminds me alot of vayne in his early games where has a big ego about his play and thinks that everyone else is wrong about the way mafia should be played. So while I think it's bad play, I do think it's town play. I really didn't like how rayn jumped all over him for it since I think it looked like he was just trying to find something to jump on and I feel like rayn should know better. He's since backed off but it's possible it's just cause IamRob gave him no choice by the amount of posting he's doing.Really don't like Mattchew right now. Everyone of his posts seem carefully non-confrontational and he's giving out way too many town reads. By my count he's had townreads on vivax, iamrobik, quantum and rayn while the closest thing to a scumread is this: On February 13 2014 06:27 Mattchew wrote:
Is lynch grack and not look back I'm not sure if he actually thinks grack is scum or not since that's all he says about him. I think these first 3 quotes in JJD's filter are rather scummy. The first thing he does is attack Robik alongside Rayn, and then when the thread comes to the conclusion that Robik is town he comes back and says he thinks Robik is just bad and that he suspects Rayn for attacking Robik. I don't really understand this from a town POV because earlier he thought that Robik was suspicious, so Rayn pushing him should still feel justified and shouldn't have felt like Rayn was just looking to find something to jump on. Rayn was like totally all over Irubik, making a ton of posts, calling him scum, and eventually voting for him. All I did was question a few of his posts. I mean, u really think it's scummy to have my first bunch of posts attack the 2 most active posters?
What does the bolded part have to do with anything? Why would it be a town/scumtell to attack someone based on their quantity of posts?
~rayn
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On February 19 2014 12:24 JarJarDrinks wrote:Show nested quote +On February 19 2014 12:09 Grackaroni wrote:On February 13 2014 06:00 JarJarDrinks wrote:Suspicious of IAmRobik. I don't like that he sheeped a townread on VIVAX420s 1 post. I thought he was joking @ first but he went on to defend it. And I really don't like that thinks its scummy that vivax would question it: On February 13 2014 05:44 IAmRobik wrote:
Additionally, your post questioning it is awkward. If someone calls me town I'd be happy as all hell. It's d1. Who gives a damn really on any sort of rationalizaiton. That's like the opposite of how a townie should think. If someone gives you a townread for no good reason, how do you not immediately get suspicious of that person? On February 13 2014 06:17 JarJarDrinks wrote:On February 13 2014 06:07 IAmRobik wrote:
2) I don't think that's the opposite of how town should think. If people have reads that they want to keep to themselves for the time being that's fine. If people want to put out reads just to promote conversation that's fine too. If I'm called town I'm thrilled. I'm town. I know I'm town. If someone else that's town realizes I'm town, that's one less person that I need to convince and 1 less mislynch that town wastes.
Unless that person is scum of course. Like you say "If someone else that's town realizes I'm town" well how would you know that person is town? You wouldn't of course. And when the reasoning is terrible (ie: like urs was) it should immediately raise ur eyebrows. On February 13 2014 12:57 JarJarDrinks wrote:k IamRob reminds me alot of vayne in his early games where has a big ego about his play and thinks that everyone else is wrong about the way mafia should be played. So while I think it's bad play, I do think it's town play. I really didn't like how rayn jumped all over him for it since I think it looked like he was just trying to find something to jump on and I feel like rayn should know better. He's since backed off but it's possible it's just cause IamRob gave him no choice by the amount of posting he's doing.Really don't like Mattchew right now. Everyone of his posts seem carefully non-confrontational and he's giving out way too many town reads. By my count he's had townreads on vivax, iamrobik, quantum and rayn while the closest thing to a scumread is this: On February 13 2014 06:27 Mattchew wrote:
Is lynch grack and not look back I'm not sure if he actually thinks grack is scum or not since that's all he says about him. I think these first 3 quotes in JJD's filter are rather scummy. The first thing he does is attack Robik alongside Rayn, and then when the thread comes to the conclusion that Robik is town he comes back and says he thinks Robik is just bad and that he suspects Rayn for attacking Robik. I don't really understand this from a town POV because earlier he thought that Robik was suspicious, so Rayn pushing him should still feel justified and shouldn't have felt like Rayn was just looking to find something to jump on. Rayn was like totally all over Irubik, making a ton of posts, calling him scum, and eventually voting for him. All I did was question a few of his posts. I mean, u really think it's scummy to have my first bunch of posts attack the 2 most active posters?
You didn't question his posts you called him suspicious. And then when town accepted Robik as town you came back and accused Rayn of being scum for calling town-Robik scum. It has nothing to do with them being active; I question your mindset. It's highly unusual to suspect someone for sharing a thought process you had previously subscribed to.
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On February 19 2014 12:29 roundabound wrote:Show nested quote +On February 19 2014 12:24 JarJarDrinks wrote:On February 19 2014 12:09 Grackaroni wrote:On February 13 2014 06:00 JarJarDrinks wrote:Suspicious of IAmRobik. I don't like that he sheeped a townread on VIVAX420s 1 post. I thought he was joking @ first but he went on to defend it. And I really don't like that thinks its scummy that vivax would question it: On February 13 2014 05:44 IAmRobik wrote:
Additionally, your post questioning it is awkward. If someone calls me town I'd be happy as all hell. It's d1. Who gives a damn really on any sort of rationalizaiton. That's like the opposite of how a townie should think. If someone gives you a townread for no good reason, how do you not immediately get suspicious of that person? On February 13 2014 06:17 JarJarDrinks wrote:On February 13 2014 06:07 IAmRobik wrote:
2) I don't think that's the opposite of how town should think. If people have reads that they want to keep to themselves for the time being that's fine. If people want to put out reads just to promote conversation that's fine too. If I'm called town I'm thrilled. I'm town. I know I'm town. If someone else that's town realizes I'm town, that's one less person that I need to convince and 1 less mislynch that town wastes.
Unless that person is scum of course. Like you say "If someone else that's town realizes I'm town" well how would you know that person is town? You wouldn't of course. And when the reasoning is terrible (ie: like urs was) it should immediately raise ur eyebrows. On February 13 2014 12:57 JarJarDrinks wrote:k IamRob reminds me alot of vayne in his early games where has a big ego about his play and thinks that everyone else is wrong about the way mafia should be played. So while I think it's bad play, I do think it's town play. I really didn't like how rayn jumped all over him for it since I think it looked like he was just trying to find something to jump on and I feel like rayn should know better. He's since backed off but it's possible it's just cause IamRob gave him no choice by the amount of posting he's doing.Really don't like Mattchew right now. Everyone of his posts seem carefully non-confrontational and he's giving out way too many town reads. By my count he's had townreads on vivax, iamrobik, quantum and rayn while the closest thing to a scumread is this: On February 13 2014 06:27 Mattchew wrote:
Is lynch grack and not look back I'm not sure if he actually thinks grack is scum or not since that's all he says about him. I think these first 3 quotes in JJD's filter are rather scummy. The first thing he does is attack Robik alongside Rayn, and then when the thread comes to the conclusion that Robik is town he comes back and says he thinks Robik is just bad and that he suspects Rayn for attacking Robik. I don't really understand this from a town POV because earlier he thought that Robik was suspicious, so Rayn pushing him should still feel justified and shouldn't have felt like Rayn was just looking to find something to jump on. Rayn was like totally all over Irubik, making a ton of posts, calling him scum, and eventually voting for him. All I did was question a few of his posts. I mean, u really think it's scummy to have my first bunch of posts attack the 2 most active posters?
What does the bolded part have to do with anything? Why would it be a town/scumtell to attack someone based on their quantity of posts? ~rayn IDK, I'd think scum would attempt to pick on the weaker, lurkier players.
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On February 19 2014 12:34 JarJarDrinks wrote:Show nested quote +On February 19 2014 12:29 roundabound wrote:On February 19 2014 12:24 JarJarDrinks wrote:On February 19 2014 12:09 Grackaroni wrote:On February 13 2014 06:00 JarJarDrinks wrote:Suspicious of IAmRobik. I don't like that he sheeped a townread on VIVAX420s 1 post. I thought he was joking @ first but he went on to defend it. And I really don't like that thinks its scummy that vivax would question it: On February 13 2014 05:44 IAmRobik wrote:
Additionally, your post questioning it is awkward. If someone calls me town I'd be happy as all hell. It's d1. Who gives a damn really on any sort of rationalizaiton. That's like the opposite of how a townie should think. If someone gives you a townread for no good reason, how do you not immediately get suspicious of that person? On February 13 2014 06:17 JarJarDrinks wrote:On February 13 2014 06:07 IAmRobik wrote:
2) I don't think that's the opposite of how town should think. If people have reads that they want to keep to themselves for the time being that's fine. If people want to put out reads just to promote conversation that's fine too. If I'm called town I'm thrilled. I'm town. I know I'm town. If someone else that's town realizes I'm town, that's one less person that I need to convince and 1 less mislynch that town wastes.
Unless that person is scum of course. Like you say "If someone else that's town realizes I'm town" well how would you know that person is town? You wouldn't of course. And when the reasoning is terrible (ie: like urs was) it should immediately raise ur eyebrows. On February 13 2014 12:57 JarJarDrinks wrote:k IamRob reminds me alot of vayne in his early games where has a big ego about his play and thinks that everyone else is wrong about the way mafia should be played. So while I think it's bad play, I do think it's town play. I really didn't like how rayn jumped all over him for it since I think it looked like he was just trying to find something to jump on and I feel like rayn should know better. He's since backed off but it's possible it's just cause IamRob gave him no choice by the amount of posting he's doing.Really don't like Mattchew right now. Everyone of his posts seem carefully non-confrontational and he's giving out way too many town reads. By my count he's had townreads on vivax, iamrobik, quantum and rayn while the closest thing to a scumread is this: On February 13 2014 06:27 Mattchew wrote:
Is lynch grack and not look back I'm not sure if he actually thinks grack is scum or not since that's all he says about him. I think these first 3 quotes in JJD's filter are rather scummy. The first thing he does is attack Robik alongside Rayn, and then when the thread comes to the conclusion that Robik is town he comes back and says he thinks Robik is just bad and that he suspects Rayn for attacking Robik. I don't really understand this from a town POV because earlier he thought that Robik was suspicious, so Rayn pushing him should still feel justified and shouldn't have felt like Rayn was just looking to find something to jump on. Rayn was like totally all over Irubik, making a ton of posts, calling him scum, and eventually voting for him. All I did was question a few of his posts. I mean, u really think it's scummy to have my first bunch of posts attack the 2 most active posters?
What does the bolded part have to do with anything? Why would it be a town/scumtell to attack someone based on their quantity of posts? ~rayn IDK, I'd think scum would attempt to pick on the weaker, lurkier players.
If you acknowledge this isn't it natural to not use it to defend yourself instead of addressing the argument itself?
~rayn
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On February 19 2014 12:30 Grackaroni wrote:Show nested quote +On February 19 2014 12:24 JarJarDrinks wrote:On February 19 2014 12:09 Grackaroni wrote:On February 13 2014 06:00 JarJarDrinks wrote:Suspicious of IAmRobik. I don't like that he sheeped a townread on VIVAX420s 1 post. I thought he was joking @ first but he went on to defend it. And I really don't like that thinks its scummy that vivax would question it: On February 13 2014 05:44 IAmRobik wrote:
Additionally, your post questioning it is awkward. If someone calls me town I'd be happy as all hell. It's d1. Who gives a damn really on any sort of rationalizaiton. That's like the opposite of how a townie should think. If someone gives you a townread for no good reason, how do you not immediately get suspicious of that person? On February 13 2014 06:17 JarJarDrinks wrote:On February 13 2014 06:07 IAmRobik wrote:
2) I don't think that's the opposite of how town should think. If people have reads that they want to keep to themselves for the time being that's fine. If people want to put out reads just to promote conversation that's fine too. If I'm called town I'm thrilled. I'm town. I know I'm town. If someone else that's town realizes I'm town, that's one less person that I need to convince and 1 less mislynch that town wastes.
Unless that person is scum of course. Like you say "If someone else that's town realizes I'm town" well how would you know that person is town? You wouldn't of course. And when the reasoning is terrible (ie: like urs was) it should immediately raise ur eyebrows. On February 13 2014 12:57 JarJarDrinks wrote:k IamRob reminds me alot of vayne in his early games where has a big ego about his play and thinks that everyone else is wrong about the way mafia should be played. So while I think it's bad play, I do think it's town play. I really didn't like how rayn jumped all over him for it since I think it looked like he was just trying to find something to jump on and I feel like rayn should know better. He's since backed off but it's possible it's just cause IamRob gave him no choice by the amount of posting he's doing.Really don't like Mattchew right now. Everyone of his posts seem carefully non-confrontational and he's giving out way too many town reads. By my count he's had townreads on vivax, iamrobik, quantum and rayn while the closest thing to a scumread is this: On February 13 2014 06:27 Mattchew wrote:
Is lynch grack and not look back I'm not sure if he actually thinks grack is scum or not since that's all he says about him. I think these first 3 quotes in JJD's filter are rather scummy. The first thing he does is attack Robik alongside Rayn, and then when the thread comes to the conclusion that Robik is town he comes back and says he thinks Robik is just bad and that he suspects Rayn for attacking Robik. I don't really understand this from a town POV because earlier he thought that Robik was suspicious, so Rayn pushing him should still feel justified and shouldn't have felt like Rayn was just looking to find something to jump on. Rayn was like totally all over Irubik, making a ton of posts, calling him scum, and eventually voting for him. All I did was question a few of his posts. I mean, u really think it's scummy to have my first bunch of posts attack the 2 most active posters? You didn't question his posts you called him suspicious. And then when town accepted Robik as town you came back and accused Rayn of being scum for calling town-Robik scum. It has nothing to do with them being active; I question your mindset. It's highly unusual to suspect someone for sharing a thought process you had previously subscribed to.
I didn't say he was suspicious. I said I was suspicious of him. That may seem like semantics but I never called him scum or made any type of push.
Town accepted him as town because of his posting. The same reason I did. And then afterwards I went back and didn't like what I saw from rayn based on that. I think that's a perfectly natural progression.
I don't think it's unusual to suspect someone for "thinking" how you previously thought yourself when you were actually wrong.
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On February 19 2014 12:42 roundabound wrote:Show nested quote +On February 19 2014 12:34 JarJarDrinks wrote:On February 19 2014 12:29 roundabound wrote:On February 19 2014 12:24 JarJarDrinks wrote:On February 19 2014 12:09 Grackaroni wrote:On February 13 2014 06:00 JarJarDrinks wrote:Suspicious of IAmRobik. I don't like that he sheeped a townread on VIVAX420s 1 post. I thought he was joking @ first but he went on to defend it. And I really don't like that thinks its scummy that vivax would question it: On February 13 2014 05:44 IAmRobik wrote:
Additionally, your post questioning it is awkward. If someone calls me town I'd be happy as all hell. It's d1. Who gives a damn really on any sort of rationalizaiton. That's like the opposite of how a townie should think. If someone gives you a townread for no good reason, how do you not immediately get suspicious of that person? On February 13 2014 06:17 JarJarDrinks wrote:On February 13 2014 06:07 IAmRobik wrote:
2) I don't think that's the opposite of how town should think. If people have reads that they want to keep to themselves for the time being that's fine. If people want to put out reads just to promote conversation that's fine too. If I'm called town I'm thrilled. I'm town. I know I'm town. If someone else that's town realizes I'm town, that's one less person that I need to convince and 1 less mislynch that town wastes.
Unless that person is scum of course. Like you say "If someone else that's town realizes I'm town" well how would you know that person is town? You wouldn't of course. And when the reasoning is terrible (ie: like urs was) it should immediately raise ur eyebrows. On February 13 2014 12:57 JarJarDrinks wrote:k IamRob reminds me alot of vayne in his early games where has a big ego about his play and thinks that everyone else is wrong about the way mafia should be played. So while I think it's bad play, I do think it's town play. I really didn't like how rayn jumped all over him for it since I think it looked like he was just trying to find something to jump on and I feel like rayn should know better. He's since backed off but it's possible it's just cause IamRob gave him no choice by the amount of posting he's doing.Really don't like Mattchew right now. Everyone of his posts seem carefully non-confrontational and he's giving out way too many town reads. By my count he's had townreads on vivax, iamrobik, quantum and rayn while the closest thing to a scumread is this: On February 13 2014 06:27 Mattchew wrote:
Is lynch grack and not look back I'm not sure if he actually thinks grack is scum or not since that's all he says about him. I think these first 3 quotes in JJD's filter are rather scummy. The first thing he does is attack Robik alongside Rayn, and then when the thread comes to the conclusion that Robik is town he comes back and says he thinks Robik is just bad and that he suspects Rayn for attacking Robik. I don't really understand this from a town POV because earlier he thought that Robik was suspicious, so Rayn pushing him should still feel justified and shouldn't have felt like Rayn was just looking to find something to jump on. Rayn was like totally all over Irubik, making a ton of posts, calling him scum, and eventually voting for him. All I did was question a few of his posts. I mean, u really think it's scummy to have my first bunch of posts attack the 2 most active posters?
What does the bolded part have to do with anything? Why would it be a town/scumtell to attack someone based on their quantity of posts? ~rayn IDK, I'd think scum would attempt to pick on the weaker, lurkier players. If you acknowledge this isn't it natural to not use it to defend yourself instead of addressing the argument itself? ~rayn
I addressed it. You're right, there was no need for me to mention the part about attacking active posters.
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VOTE COUNT:
Mattchew (2): JarJarDrinks, Grackaroni, gumshoe, roundabound
gumshoe (1): roundabound, sidesprang
bumatlarge(1): Mordanis
sidesprang(1): JarJarDrinks
JarJarDrinks(1): Grackaroni
With 10 players alive it takes 6 votes to lynch. Only votes in the Voting Thread will be counted!
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On February 19 2014 12:23 VIVAX420 wrote:Show nested quote +On February 19 2014 11:47 roundabound wrote:
Vivax
I have noticed this game you refuse to take a firm position on anything.
Instead you put out some musings and let others carry the work load for you
This pattern is repeating again.
I'm hesitant to lynching when there are so many unknown alignments. Kush put the vote after I unvoted. Thrawn pretty much knew how to play IML. Lengthen the days, increase the time town has. You prefer to opt for quick lynches and get frustrated with no occurring lynches even when there are so many options for people being scum. Besides, you might want to get to the point with your made observations. Do you suspect me of being scum or is this just something you wrote as offensive defense. ~V
This is a very poor ideology to hide behind and justify actions.
Lengthened days are only worthwhile if meaningful contributions are being made. Cases discussed, votes analysed. Despite rayn and I best attempts to generate and foster this type of discussion, the thread transpired into a lurk fest.
There is zero benefit to extending day 1 in particular with this type of environment. Everyone gets bored including die hard townies and vote analysis becomes excruciatingly difficult when the whole game doesn't care anymore. The above reads to me that you were content with nothing moving and if scum I don't blame you when town commonly thought you were town.....
And I note the irony of your point about getting to the point. Tell me vivax. Were you planning conclude your own observation?? I.e. cross reference the shiaopi votes and my claim finding yourself, or do you expect others to do the leg work for you?
~moc
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On February 19 2014 12:43 JarJarDrinks wrote:Show nested quote +On February 19 2014 12:30 Grackaroni wrote:On February 19 2014 12:24 JarJarDrinks wrote:On February 19 2014 12:09 Grackaroni wrote:On February 13 2014 06:00 JarJarDrinks wrote:Suspicious of IAmRobik. I don't like that he sheeped a townread on VIVAX420s 1 post. I thought he was joking @ first but he went on to defend it. And I really don't like that thinks its scummy that vivax would question it: On February 13 2014 05:44 IAmRobik wrote:
Additionally, your post questioning it is awkward. If someone calls me town I'd be happy as all hell. It's d1. Who gives a damn really on any sort of rationalizaiton. That's like the opposite of how a townie should think. If someone gives you a townread for no good reason, how do you not immediately get suspicious of that person? On February 13 2014 06:17 JarJarDrinks wrote:On February 13 2014 06:07 IAmRobik wrote:
2) I don't think that's the opposite of how town should think. If people have reads that they want to keep to themselves for the time being that's fine. If people want to put out reads just to promote conversation that's fine too. If I'm called town I'm thrilled. I'm town. I know I'm town. If someone else that's town realizes I'm town, that's one less person that I need to convince and 1 less mislynch that town wastes.
Unless that person is scum of course. Like you say "If someone else that's town realizes I'm town" well how would you know that person is town? You wouldn't of course. And when the reasoning is terrible (ie: like urs was) it should immediately raise ur eyebrows. On February 13 2014 12:57 JarJarDrinks wrote:k IamRob reminds me alot of vayne in his early games where has a big ego about his play and thinks that everyone else is wrong about the way mafia should be played. So while I think it's bad play, I do think it's town play. I really didn't like how rayn jumped all over him for it since I think it looked like he was just trying to find something to jump on and I feel like rayn should know better. He's since backed off but it's possible it's just cause IamRob gave him no choice by the amount of posting he's doing.Really don't like Mattchew right now. Everyone of his posts seem carefully non-confrontational and he's giving out way too many town reads. By my count he's had townreads on vivax, iamrobik, quantum and rayn while the closest thing to a scumread is this: On February 13 2014 06:27 Mattchew wrote:
Is lynch grack and not look back I'm not sure if he actually thinks grack is scum or not since that's all he says about him. I think these first 3 quotes in JJD's filter are rather scummy. The first thing he does is attack Robik alongside Rayn, and then when the thread comes to the conclusion that Robik is town he comes back and says he thinks Robik is just bad and that he suspects Rayn for attacking Robik. I don't really understand this from a town POV because earlier he thought that Robik was suspicious, so Rayn pushing him should still feel justified and shouldn't have felt like Rayn was just looking to find something to jump on. Rayn was like totally all over Irubik, making a ton of posts, calling him scum, and eventually voting for him. All I did was question a few of his posts. I mean, u really think it's scummy to have my first bunch of posts attack the 2 most active posters? You didn't question his posts you called him suspicious. And then when town accepted Robik as town you came back and accused Rayn of being scum for calling town-Robik scum. It has nothing to do with them being active; I question your mindset. It's highly unusual to suspect someone for sharing a thought process you had previously subscribed to. I didn't say he was suspicious. I said I was suspicious of him. That may seem like semantics but I never called him scum or made any type of push. Town accepted him as town because of his posting. The same reason I did. And then afterwards I went back and didn't like what I saw from rayn based on that. I think that's a perfectly natural progression. I don't think it's unusual to suspect someone for "thinking" how you previously thought yourself when you were actually wrong.
I don't think it's natural - If I were to start posting a lot of content now do you think others should view you with suspicion for attacking my earlier posts? Even if you no longer felt Robik was scummy because he continued posting, that doesn't mean Rayn wasn't originally attacking something you felt was scummy (hence Rayn's posts should be pro-town, and not be described as him looking for something to jump on)
Your semantics defense is nonsense, and to be perfectly honest it seemed as if it took you a while to come up with that nonsense.
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As for Matt, I want to see how he reacts to the pressure on him. I think the case on him is very similar to mine on gum, namely that each player is playing in a way that benefits scum, so that even on the off chance of the target flipping town, we still benefit. I prefer my case however because it does not rely on meta-analysis, and I still read bum as scummier than Matt.
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On February 19 2014 12:59 Grackaroni wrote:
If I were to start posting a lot of content now do you think others should view you with suspicion for attacking my earlier posts? If you did something that made you look like like you were very likely town then hell yeah people should suspect me for attacking a townie. You really disagree w/ that?
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On February 19 2014 13:09 JarJarDrinks wrote:Show nested quote +On February 19 2014 12:59 Grackaroni wrote:
If I were to start posting a lot of content now do you think others should view you with suspicion for attacking my earlier posts? If you did something that made you look like like you were very likely town then hell yeah people should suspect me for attacking a townie. You really disagree w/ that?
Ok - initiating townie mode.
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On February 19 2014 13:10 Grackaroni wrote:Show nested quote +On February 19 2014 13:09 JarJarDrinks wrote:On February 19 2014 12:59 Grackaroni wrote:
If I were to start posting a lot of content now do you think others should view you with suspicion for attacking my earlier posts? If you did something that made you look like like you were very likely town then hell yeah people should suspect me for attacking a townie. You really disagree w/ that? Ok - initiating townie mode.
U posted the seal already.
How do u get townier than that??
~moc
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On February 19 2014 13:23 roundabound wrote:Show nested quote +On February 19 2014 13:10 Grackaroni wrote:On February 19 2014 13:09 JarJarDrinks wrote:On February 19 2014 12:59 Grackaroni wrote:
If I were to start posting a lot of content now do you think others should view you with suspicion for attacking my earlier posts? If you did something that made you look like like you were very likely town then hell yeah people should suspect me for attacking a townie. You really disagree w/ that? Ok - initiating townie mode. U posted the seal already. How do u get townier than that?? ~moc
Idk. My seal came with shit post lessons from Coag. So far he's only taught me how to post the seal.
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Hey Grack and Round (and anyone else who's around)
How do you feel about bum?
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On February 19 2014 13:49 Mordanis wrote:
Hey Grack and Round (and anyone else who's around)
How do you feel about bum?
I'm concerned he hasn't posted anything meaningful in a while.
Basically someone I'm paying attention to but not a priority on my list
~moc
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