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On February 19 2014 12:42 roundabound wrote:Show nested quote +On February 19 2014 12:34 JarJarDrinks wrote:On February 19 2014 12:29 roundabound wrote:On February 19 2014 12:24 JarJarDrinks wrote:On February 19 2014 12:09 Grackaroni wrote:On February 13 2014 06:00 JarJarDrinks wrote:Suspicious of IAmRobik. I don't like that he sheeped a townread on VIVAX420s 1 post. I thought he was joking @ first but he went on to defend it. And I really don't like that thinks its scummy that vivax would question it: On February 13 2014 05:44 IAmRobik wrote:
Additionally, your post questioning it is awkward. If someone calls me town I'd be happy as all hell. It's d1. Who gives a damn really on any sort of rationalizaiton. That's like the opposite of how a townie should think. If someone gives you a townread for no good reason, how do you not immediately get suspicious of that person? On February 13 2014 06:17 JarJarDrinks wrote:On February 13 2014 06:07 IAmRobik wrote:
2) I don't think that's the opposite of how town should think. If people have reads that they want to keep to themselves for the time being that's fine. If people want to put out reads just to promote conversation that's fine too. If I'm called town I'm thrilled. I'm town. I know I'm town. If someone else that's town realizes I'm town, that's one less person that I need to convince and 1 less mislynch that town wastes.
Unless that person is scum of course. Like you say "If someone else that's town realizes I'm town" well how would you know that person is town? You wouldn't of course. And when the reasoning is terrible (ie: like urs was) it should immediately raise ur eyebrows. On February 13 2014 12:57 JarJarDrinks wrote:k IamRob reminds me alot of vayne in his early games where has a big ego about his play and thinks that everyone else is wrong about the way mafia should be played. So while I think it's bad play, I do think it's town play. I really didn't like how rayn jumped all over him for it since I think it looked like he was just trying to find something to jump on and I feel like rayn should know better. He's since backed off but it's possible it's just cause IamRob gave him no choice by the amount of posting he's doing.Really don't like Mattchew right now. Everyone of his posts seem carefully non-confrontational and he's giving out way too many town reads. By my count he's had townreads on vivax, iamrobik, quantum and rayn while the closest thing to a scumread is this: On February 13 2014 06:27 Mattchew wrote:
Is lynch grack and not look back I'm not sure if he actually thinks grack is scum or not since that's all he says about him. I think these first 3 quotes in JJD's filter are rather scummy. The first thing he does is attack Robik alongside Rayn, and then when the thread comes to the conclusion that Robik is town he comes back and says he thinks Robik is just bad and that he suspects Rayn for attacking Robik. I don't really understand this from a town POV because earlier he thought that Robik was suspicious, so Rayn pushing him should still feel justified and shouldn't have felt like Rayn was just looking to find something to jump on. Rayn was like totally all over Irubik, making a ton of posts, calling him scum, and eventually voting for him. All I did was question a few of his posts. I mean, u really think it's scummy to have my first bunch of posts attack the 2 most active posters?
What does the bolded part have to do with anything? Why would it be a town/scumtell to attack someone based on their quantity of posts? ~rayn IDK, I'd think scum would attempt to pick on the weaker, lurkier players. If you acknowledge this isn't it natural to not use it to defend yourself instead of addressing the argument itself? ~rayn
I addressed it. You're right, there was no need for me to mention the part about attacking active posters.
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On February 19 2014 12:59 Grackaroni wrote:
If I were to start posting a lot of content now do you think others should view you with suspicion for attacking my earlier posts? If you did something that made you look like like you were very likely town then hell yeah people should suspect me for attacking a townie. You really disagree w/ that?
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On February 19 2014 06:23 Grackaroni wrote:Show nested quote +On February 19 2014 06:14 roundabound wrote:On February 19 2014 06:12 Grackaroni wrote:On February 19 2014 04:24 roundabound wrote:
The case is the same i made on D1 with more words.
Why is it good now Grackaroni and was not good on D1?
~rayn Because his case was about Mattchew being passive and consistently avoiding conflict. Either yours was not about that, or I didn't read yours if it was. My case was that Mattchew hasn't said shit in this game which is the same thing. "Avoiding confliction" and "being passive" are just fancy words of saying the same thing. ~rayn No that's not true. He had two quotes - one where his opinion was being attacked and he passively backed off of it rather than defending his opinion, and another where you personally attacked him and his reply was extremely passive and appears disingenuous. And I am starting to agree with Kushm4sta on you right now. Gumshoe's case was one of the strongest cases I've seen in the last few games I've played, and all you've done since reading it is attempt to discredit him for a fake scum slip, discredit myself for following his case now and not your case earlier, and refuse to comment on the case until Mattchew responds. OK, aside from that statement being totally disingenuous, I find it strange that Grack was so easily willing to switch his vote to me considering how "strong" gumshoes case was. Especially considering his reasoning was based on the first 3 posts in my my filter.
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Yes I think Ur scum. It's the main reason I'm not OK w/ lynching mattchew @ this time. Cause ur pushing it.
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On February 20 2014 02:11 VIVAX420 wrote:
Round needs to be lynched. They just scum claimed. Again. Why ddint you want to vote him for claiming the first time?
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On February 20 2014 02:12 Grackaroni wrote:
Well then perhaps next time you should come out and say, "Look at this switch by Grack. This is suspicious. Why did he drop his vote on Mattchew so easily"
Rather than, "this is kinda strange. He thinks Gumshoe's case was strong and still voted me. Also like his case was based off the first 3 posts in my filter where I was suspicious of the 2 most active people in the thread"
no clue wtf ur trying to say here.
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On February 20 2014 02:34 Grackaroni wrote:Show nested quote +On February 19 2014 12:43 JarJarDrinks wrote:On February 19 2014 12:30 Grackaroni wrote:On February 19 2014 12:24 JarJarDrinks wrote:On February 19 2014 12:09 Grackaroni wrote:On February 13 2014 06:00 JarJarDrinks wrote:Suspicious of IAmRobik. I don't like that he sheeped a townread on VIVAX420s 1 post. I thought he was joking @ first but he went on to defend it. And I really don't like that thinks its scummy that vivax would question it: On February 13 2014 05:44 IAmRobik wrote:
Additionally, your post questioning it is awkward. If someone calls me town I'd be happy as all hell. It's d1. Who gives a damn really on any sort of rationalizaiton. That's like the opposite of how a townie should think. If someone gives you a townread for no good reason, how do you not immediately get suspicious of that person? On February 13 2014 06:17 JarJarDrinks wrote:On February 13 2014 06:07 IAmRobik wrote:
2) I don't think that's the opposite of how town should think. If people have reads that they want to keep to themselves for the time being that's fine. If people want to put out reads just to promote conversation that's fine too. If I'm called town I'm thrilled. I'm town. I know I'm town. If someone else that's town realizes I'm town, that's one less person that I need to convince and 1 less mislynch that town wastes.
Unless that person is scum of course. Like you say "If someone else that's town realizes I'm town" well how would you know that person is town? You wouldn't of course. And when the reasoning is terrible (ie: like urs was) it should immediately raise ur eyebrows. On February 13 2014 12:57 JarJarDrinks wrote:k IamRob reminds me alot of vayne in his early games where has a big ego about his play and thinks that everyone else is wrong about the way mafia should be played. So while I think it's bad play, I do think it's town play. I really didn't like how rayn jumped all over him for it since I think it looked like he was just trying to find something to jump on and I feel like rayn should know better. He's since backed off but it's possible it's just cause IamRob gave him no choice by the amount of posting he's doing.Really don't like Mattchew right now. Everyone of his posts seem carefully non-confrontational and he's giving out way too many town reads. By my count he's had townreads on vivax, iamrobik, quantum and rayn while the closest thing to a scumread is this: On February 13 2014 06:27 Mattchew wrote:
Is lynch grack and not look back I'm not sure if he actually thinks grack is scum or not since that's all he says about him. I think these first 3 quotes in JJD's filter are rather scummy. The first thing he does is attack Robik alongside Rayn, and then when the thread comes to the conclusion that Robik is town he comes back and says he thinks Robik is just bad and that he suspects Rayn for attacking Robik. I don't really understand this from a town POV because earlier he thought that Robik was suspicious, so Rayn pushing him should still feel justified and shouldn't have felt like Rayn was just looking to find something to jump on. Rayn was like totally all over Irubik, making a ton of posts, calling him scum, and eventually voting for him. All I did was question a few of his posts. I mean, u really think it's scummy to have my first bunch of posts attack the 2 most active posters? You didn't question his posts you called him suspicious. And then when town accepted Robik as town you came back and accused Rayn of being scum for calling town-Robik scum. It has nothing to do with them being active; I question your mindset. It's highly unusual to suspect someone for sharing a thought process you had previously subscribed to. I didn't say he was suspicious. I said I was suspicious of him. That may seem like semantics but I never called him scum or made any type of push.Town accepted him as town because of his posting. The same reason I did. And then afterwards I went back and didn't like what I saw from rayn based on that. I think that's a perfectly natural progression. I don't think it's unusual to suspect someone for "thinking" how you previously thought yourself when you were actually wrong. If you want to know why I changed my vote it was because this was such a bad response to what I called him out on. bad point on me moving my vote is bad and to say that is better than anything you've read in thread surprises me. And yet you didnt mention this response that was supposedly so terrible that you had no choice but to switch off the person who had one of the strongest cases you've seen in several games?
Why would you not point out that this is why ur voting for me to the rest of the town so they can see how scummy I am?
You're trying to rewrite history after the fact.
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On February 20 2014 03:58 VIVAX420 wrote:
HE FAKE CLAIMED SCUM orly?
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On February 21 2014 04:35 IAmRobik wrote:
you guys brought it up first...he tries to say that he read SS wrong in that game, which is why he's giving him a free pass this game. And then he says he's going to go reread that game to see why he read him wrong. Then he comes back with the conclusion that he's willing to give him a break based off of the similarities between that game and this game, when that's an absolute fallacy and the game SS is playing here is 100% different from the one he played there just from the first couple of pages alone! I addressed this:
On February 15 2014 03:38 JarJarDrinks wrote:
I was just saying that I read him scum early on in that game for reasons similiar to how I read him early this game. I am in no way saying that I think he's playing exactly like he played that game. All I said was I wanted to back off him a bit and give him a chance before jumping on him.
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On February 21 2014 04:59 IAmRobik wrote:Show nested quote +On February 21 2014 04:55 JarJarDrinks wrote:On February 21 2014 04:35 IAmRobik wrote:
you guys brought it up first...he tries to say that he read SS wrong in that game, which is why he's giving him a free pass this game. And then he says he's going to go reread that game to see why he read him wrong. Then he comes back with the conclusion that he's willing to give him a break based off of the similarities between that game and this game, when that's an absolute fallacy and the game SS is playing here is 100% different from the one he played there just from the first couple of pages alone! I addressed this: On February 15 2014 03:38 JarJarDrinks wrote:
I was just saying that I read him scum early on in that game for reasons similiar to how I read him early this game. I am in no way saying that I think he's playing exactly like he played that game. All I said was I wanted to back off him a bit and give him a chance before jumping on him. Do you have a bot that pings you every time "JJD" is written in the thread? No
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OK,
##Unvote
##Vote Mattchew
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OK Mattchew isn't gonna get modkilled and he'd not even trying to not get lynched. Is there something else we're waiting for?
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WTF, Mattchew is still alive?
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On February 22 2014 04:06 Grackaroni wrote:
I'm pretty much done posting for this cycle x2
IML w/ no time limit is flawed.
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On February 22 2014 10:30 roundabound wrote:
Chew IAR vivax scum
grack instead of IAR
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