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roundabound
Profile Joined February 2014
Niue881 Posts
February 14 2014 18:10 GMT
#701
On February 15 2014 03:06 IAmRobik wrote:
Wow...posting quantity/quality is night and day between that game and this game.

I know, that was one of the last "good games" from town on this forum.
After that this shit has gone to stupid lurking bullshit and people having some stupid personal issues against each other.
Sad.

~rayn
Mocsta & IAmRobik hydra
JarJarDrinks
Profile Joined March 2013
United States1302 Posts
February 14 2014 18:13 GMT
#702
On February 15 2014 02:57 IAmRobik wrote:
So just to make sure I got this right, you're going to go read the previous game where you thought he was scummy, but he was in fact town to see if:
1) he talked about game setup in that game
2) if he lurked
Ur being obtuse. I want to see if he avoided talking about people and giving reads by talking about 'safe' stuff. Not if he specifically talked about setup.

and from what I'm seeing from an reading so far is that I thought he was scummy early on for a similiar reason. He talked about stuff like how people shouldn't lurk and spam the thread. And I called him out for it being a 'safe' post, just like I did here.
roundabound
Profile Joined February 2014
Niue881 Posts
February 14 2014 18:18 GMT
#703
But he gave reads.

~rayn
Mocsta & IAmRobik hydra
IAmRobik
Profile Joined January 2014
United States5878 Posts
February 14 2014 18:18 GMT
#704
That's all you garnered from his posts that game? That was his first post in that game. After that, he went on to provide (what I believe to be) a lot of substance. He gave reads, he responded to votes on him, he did something. This game, his participation is lacking. His posts are 1-2 liners as opposed to paragraphs of analysis reasoning that went into his posts in that game. The sample size for me is very small as I'm only comparing this game to that game, but to not see a stark contrast.....?
roundabound
Profile Joined February 2014
Niue881 Posts
February 14 2014 18:20 GMT
#705
lol
Mocsta & IAmRobik hydra
IAmRobik
Profile Joined January 2014
United States5878 Posts
February 14 2014 18:22 GMT
#706
On February 15 2014 03:20 roundabound wrote:
lol

You're still a jerk for calling me out.
roundabound
Profile Joined February 2014
Niue881 Posts
February 14 2014 18:25 GMT
#707
On February 15 2014 03:22 IAmRobik wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 15 2014 03:20 roundabound wrote:
lol

You're still a jerk for calling me out.

I can explain that in more detail post game if you want to. I tend to go against players who i think are the strongest in the game, always at the start. Because they are people who will win the game for scum if they are scum, or they are your best allies if they are town.

But it's irrelevant now and a waste of posts.

~rayn
Mocsta & IAmRobik hydra
roundabound
Profile Joined February 2014
Niue881 Posts
February 14 2014 18:27 GMT
#708
But yes, you are right, i am an annoying asshole and I know it.

~rayn
Mocsta & IAmRobik hydra
sidesprang
Profile Joined January 2009
Norway1033 Posts
February 14 2014 18:29 GMT
#709
Was planning on sheeping you rayn, but dont look so tempting atm :S
Float like a butterfly, sting like a bee.
sidesprang
Profile Joined January 2009
Norway1033 Posts
February 14 2014 18:29 GMT
#710
Who is your second scum ?
Float like a butterfly, sting like a bee.
thrawn2112
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States6918 Posts
February 14 2014 18:30 GMT
#711
On February 15 2014 03:08 thrawn2112 wrote:
I can lynch JJD


This is a good reason to lynch JJ

On February 14 2014 15:08 DoNotPanic! wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 14 2014 01:03 JarJarDrinks wrote:
On February 14 2014 00:53 roundabound wrote:
Is DNP a person of suspicion or not...
Yes. would lynch

On February 14 2014 00:28 roundabound wrote:
I have seen plenty of town only discuss setup early game; you have failed to elucidate me towards why this tell is only indicative of a mafia mindset.
scummy <> only indicative of a mafia mindset. You read DNP as scum because he made 1 shitty post and then peaced. I have seen plenty of town make 1 shitty post and go awol for a while. Can you tell me why this tell is only indicative of a mafia mindset?

On February 14 2014 00:28 roundabound wrote:
So what is the outcome?
Are you keeping Sidesprang/Mattchew as a scum team; or are you rescinding a read?
Uh neither. I think they are both scummy but I think it's unlikely that they are both scum together. Is something wrong w/ that?


He first expresses a willingness to lynch me in the first part of his post. However, he them criticizes roundabound's case on me, saying that he's seen townies do what I do, and suggests it's not allignment indicative.

This post essentially shows that JarJar is willing to lynch a player for reasons *other* than that player being mafia - an incredibly mafia motivated mindset.


"People think they know all these things about other people, and if you ask them why they think they know that, it'd be hard for them to be convincing." ES
IAmRobik
Profile Joined January 2014
United States5878 Posts
February 14 2014 18:30 GMT
#712
On February 15 2014 03:27 roundabound wrote:
But yes, you are right, i am an annoying asshole and I know it.

~rayn

Moc, stop signing your posts as rayn!
JarJarDrinks
Profile Joined March 2013
United States1302 Posts
February 14 2014 18:38 GMT
#713
On February 15 2014 03:18 IAmRobik wrote:
That's all you garnered from his posts that game? That was his first post in that game. After that, he went on to provide (what I believe to be) a lot of substance. He gave reads, he responded to votes on him, he did something. This game, his participation is lacking. His posts are 1-2 liners as opposed to paragraphs of analysis reasoning that went into his posts in that game. The sample size for me is very small as I'm only comparing this game to that game, but to not see a stark contrast.....?

I was just saying that I read him scum early on in that game for reasons similiar to how I read him early this game. I am in no way saying that I think he's playing exactly like he played that game. All I said was I wanted to back off him a bit and give him a chance before jumping on him.
IAmRobik
Profile Joined January 2014
United States5878 Posts
February 14 2014 18:41 GMT
#714
On February 15 2014 03:29 sidesprang wrote:
Who is your second scum ?

Are you in shutdown mode already and it's only d1? If/when you have time, I'd love for you to read the thread, pick out posts you fine interesting, whether scummy or towny and provide a list of people for both distinctions based off of posts/interactions/previous experience/etc. Thanks!
VIVAX420
Profile Joined April 2013
556 Posts
February 14 2014 18:43 GMT
#715
I have some issues with JJD's play, too. I would like him to address this one:

Part 1: JJD doesn't like how Rayn jumps all over a townread of him.

On February 13 2014 12:57 JarJarDrinks wrote:
k IamRob reminds me alot of vayne in his early games where has a big ego about his play and thinks that everyone else is wrong about the way mafia should be played. So while I think it's bad play, I do think it's town play.

I really didn't like how rayn jumped all over him for it since I think it looked like he was just trying to find something to jump on and I feel like rayn should know better. He's since backed off but it's possible it's just cause IamRob gave him no choice by the amount of posting he's doing.

Really don't like Mattchew right now. Everyone of his posts seem carefully non-confrontational and he's giving out way too many town reads. By my count he's had townreads on vivax, iamrobik, quantum and rayn while the closest thing to a scumread is this:
Show nested quote +
On February 13 2014 06:27 Mattchew wrote:
Is lynch grack and not look back
I'm not sure if he actually thinks grack is scum or not since that's all he says about him.


Afterwards, JJD claims that he finds the post terrible for obvious reasons where... DNP asked why Rayn is attacking the most tryhard guy in the game. Why is it terrible if it's something that JJD should agree with based on the previous post?

On February 14 2014 00:43 JarJarDrinks wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 14 2014 00:28 roundabound wrote:
Why is DNP not on your comment agenda?
DNP has made a single post that is obviously not a very good looking post. Didn't think I should spend too much time discussing obvious stuff. Hopefully he posts more.

Show nested quote +
On February 14 2014 00:28 roundabound wrote:
Why is sidesprings retort void?
On February 13 2014 17:25 sidesprang wrote:
And why would scum be nervous talking about setup?
I don't think scum would be nervous talking about setup. I think it's scummy that setup is the only thing he chose to discuss.

Show nested quote +
On February 14 2014 00:28 roundabound wrote:
What is your current read on Mattchew; considering you are effectively "safely" +1'n his read.
Like I said I don't like the way Mattchew looks.

So yeah I have 2 scumreads indpendant of each other that don't really mesh well as scumbuddies.



Sidesprang does also look worse considering the amount of content he posted in that game as town, nothing of that to see in this game.
Kush and Vivax
VIVAX420
Profile Joined April 2013
556 Posts
February 14 2014 18:48 GMT
#716
On February 15 2014 03:30 thrawn2112 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 15 2014 03:08 thrawn2112 wrote:
I can lynch JJD


This is a good reason to lynch JJ

Show nested quote +
On February 14 2014 15:08 DoNotPanic! wrote:
On February 14 2014 01:03 JarJarDrinks wrote:
On February 14 2014 00:53 roundabound wrote:
Is DNP a person of suspicion or not...
Yes. would lynch

On February 14 2014 00:28 roundabound wrote:
I have seen plenty of town only discuss setup early game; you have failed to elucidate me towards why this tell is only indicative of a mafia mindset.
scummy <> only indicative of a mafia mindset. You read DNP as scum because he made 1 shitty post and then peaced. I have seen plenty of town make 1 shitty post and go awol for a while. Can you tell me why this tell is only indicative of a mafia mindset?

On February 14 2014 00:28 roundabound wrote:
So what is the outcome?
Are you keeping Sidesprang/Mattchew as a scum team; or are you rescinding a read?
Uh neither. I think they are both scummy but I think it's unlikely that they are both scum together. Is something wrong w/ that?


He first expresses a willingness to lynch me in the first part of his post. However, he them criticizes roundabound's case on me, saying that he's seen townies do what I do, and suggests it's not allignment indicative.

This post essentially shows that JarJar is willing to lynch a player for reasons *other* than that player being mafia - an incredibly mafia motivated mindset.




I think he simply meant that he would lynch DNP based on the content of his post, not the fact that DNP came, dropped a question and left.
Which is even weirder cause he found it strange as well that rayn would jump all over robik.

~V
Kush and Vivax
JarJarDrinks
Profile Joined March 2013
United States1302 Posts
February 14 2014 18:52 GMT
#717
I think I explained my reasoning about rayn pretty well and it was one read out of many. DNP just took a shot and left which is what I think was scummy.
VIVAX420
Profile Joined April 2013
556 Posts
February 14 2014 18:54 GMT
#718
This is in contrast to your earlier opinion.

On February 15 2014 03:52 JarJarDrinks wrote:
I think I explained my reasoning about rayn pretty well and it was one read out of many. DNP just took a shot and left which is what I think was scummy.


On February 14 2014 01:03 JarJarDrinks wrote:
scummy <> only indicative of a mafia mindset. You read DNP as scum because he made 1 shitty post and then peaced. I have seen plenty of town make 1 shitty post and go awol for a while. Can you tell me why this tell is only indicative of a mafia mindset?


~V
Kush and Vivax
JarJarDrinks
Profile Joined March 2013
United States1302 Posts
February 14 2014 18:56 GMT
#719
On February 15 2014 00:27 JarJarDrinks wrote:
@DNP. I wasn't criticizing roundabouts case on you. I was saying that a scummy action doesnt mean that a person was 100% scum. He was on me about my case against sidespring and I used his case against you as an example.

IAmRobik
Profile Joined January 2014
United States5878 Posts
February 14 2014 18:57 GMT
#720
I think that Sidesprang, JJD, ShiaoPi, Mordanis and Grack should all pick 3 people (not including vivax, myself or roundabound) and do a filter/analysis of their posts and come back with some reads on those players.
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