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DoNotPanic!
Profile Joined January 2014
Canada11 Posts
February 14 2014 07:30 GMT
#661
Alright, that'll do it for tonight. Hopefully my predecessor gives this thread the activity it needs.

Before I go though, some general advice to the town: long days are town-favored!

This setup allows the town to take time and get answers from everything before committing to a lynch. The worst thing that town can do in this game is rush to hammer a lurker. Patience is the key to this setup.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8uxt-FnNy2I
Mordanis
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
United States893 Posts
February 14 2014 07:43 GMT
#662
On February 14 2014 02:57 VIVAX420 wrote:
Well what I don't like about Mordanis is the fact that he doesn't seem the least bit suspicious about thrawn. When a guy is lurking and posting nonsense you would actually want him to post more and better stuff so you can get a read on him.

Hence I can't explain from a town pov why he doesn't want thrawn to be pressured, and thrawn himself already pointed out:
Show nested quote +

Mordanis could be scum, his suspicions of vivax/robik look like they stem from him having knowledge of my alignment. He's suspicious of people because of their suspicions of a townie which is classic fake-scumhunting.

I thought this was apparent but I guess I have to explain this. The case on thrawn was the first case with anything to it. There were two people behind it, and it seemed like a mostly meta case (as I recall, Robik was much happier with his read after seeing the game vivax linked). The thing is, I don't know thrawn, or really anyone else well enough to make a meta case or even believe one without outside confirmation. So, I did what I can do, and thought about the posts and the order and such, to try to find scum through analysis. I thought (and still do) that, if there is a strong meta case against someone who has played many games on TL, there will be several games that will show this pattern, and multiple people will be able to verify that the meta case is reasonable.
I love the smell of napalm in the morning... it smells like... victory. -_^ Favorite SC2 match ->Liquid`HerO vs. SlayerS CranK g.1 @MLG Summer Championship
Mordanis
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
United States893 Posts
February 14 2014 07:54 GMT
#663
On February 14 2014 13:34 VIVAX420 wrote:
thrawn timeline:
lurk scumstyle
start tryharding because vivax caught him
continue to lurk when the pressure goes down

As per my last post, could someone who knows thrawn let me know if this isa reasonable case or not?
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roundabound
Profile Joined February 2014
Niue881 Posts
February 14 2014 09:01 GMT
#664
On February 14 2014 16:54 Mordanis wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 14 2014 13:34 VIVAX420 wrote:
thrawn timeline:
lurk scumstyle
start tryharding because vivax caught him
continue to lurk when the pressure goes down

As per my last post, could someone who knows thrawn let me know if this isa reasonable case or not?

Reasonable observation: tick
Reasonable to raise: tick
Reasonable case: duh duhhhhh

~moc
Mocsta & IAmRobik hydra
VIVAX420
Profile Joined April 2013
556 Posts
February 14 2014 12:32 GMT
#665
@mordanis
I don't like metaing on activity .my concerns about thrawn are based on activity not on meta.
Kush and Vivax
IAmRobik
Profile Joined January 2014
United States5878 Posts
February 14 2014 12:53 GMT
#666
On February 14 2014 16:14 roundabound wrote:
I figured if u knew mattchew intimately u might be a video mafia guy.either way u bought your replacement a cycle.

I have no want to lynch u. Very reasonable approach I think especially compared to others.

##unvote

~moc

Hey, so I've been keeping up and found nothing of note to comment on up until now because it seemed that there wasn't a whole bunch of new information provided nor had my reads changed all that much up until DnP started to post. I will say this: I have no clue what to make of DnP at this point. I think it is way easier to make a post, depart for a LONG time and then come in, reread and make the post that he made. The "strangest" part of what he wrong is:

On February 14 2014 15:08 DoNotPanic! wrote:
Townies:
Roundaboud
IamRobik
Thrawn
Vivax420

The first three should be self-explanatory and fairly non-controversial at this stage.


Self-explanatory and non-controversial is an easy way to just throw reads out there without giving much substance...which again, he doesn't really do other than just saying that we are active and care about the thread. While I do think that being active and caring about the game is townie, he does not mention any of our posts or anything that even "sounds" townie to him besides our consistent posting.

I would be very hesitant about giving his "replacement a cycle."

I'll post more when I get to work. I just woke up and opened the thread and wanted to catch up and had to comment as this caught my eye.
IAmRobik
Profile Joined January 2014
United States5878 Posts
February 14 2014 12:57 GMT
#667
Also, IML on d1 is a bit silly in my opinion. I think we end up nit-picking the slightest details and it could get us in trouble later in the game because our d1 reads probably aren't based on as strong a foundation as they should be. I think it would be ideal at some point to form some wagons and get some voting going and have someone lynched and move from there with the additional information we would gather from a reveal.

Just my 2 cents.
JarJarDrinks
Profile Joined March 2013
United States1302 Posts
February 14 2014 15:27 GMT
#668
@DNP. I wasn't criticizing roundabouts case on you. I was saying that a scummy action doesnt mean that a person was 100% scum. He was on me about my case against sidespring and I used his case against you as an example.
IAmRobik
Profile Joined January 2014
United States5878 Posts
February 14 2014 16:36 GMT
#669
Grack...I'm rereading pg 29-31 so far. I know I'm new here. I don't know anything about your playstyle. But I think it's absolutely reasonable for me to spite vote you and never change if you don't fucking start contributing actual content. You've done nothing so far and I'm baffled that Rayn can shittalk players on 2p2 when people like you play games on TL.
IAmRobik
Profile Joined January 2014
United States5878 Posts
February 14 2014 16:40 GMT
#670
On February 14 2014 09:27 roundabound wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 14 2014 06:37 VIVAX420 wrote:
Still waiting for opinions on Shiao and sidesprang.~V

Agreed

An interesting observation with sidesprang was the need to repeatedly interject when he is discussed, but not contribute to anything further.

Originally I thought the first interjection was nullish, as both town and scum have a need to cock-block points against them.
Its the act of "active-lurking" that i do not appreciate as a town trait.




Still waiting on DoNotPanic




QP response to the reads on him was acceptable in my opinion.
I would like to see his mindset on others items in the thread though. Even if scum was Mattchew+IAR; thats only 2 of 3.

~moc

Moc,

I disagree with this, but I do want to hear WAY more from QP. His contribution so far has been lackluster.
Grackaroni
Profile Joined July 2011
United States9856 Posts
February 14 2014 16:40 GMT
#671
On February 15 2014 01:36 IAmRobik wrote:
Grack...I'm rereading pg 29-31 so far. I know I'm new here. I don't know anything about your playstyle. But I think it's absolutely reasonable for me to spite vote you and never change if you don't fucking start contributing actual content. You've done nothing so far and I'm baffled that Rayn can shittalk players on 2p2 when people like you play games on TL.

huh I don't think I've done nothing. I've done little.
JarJarDrinks
Profile Joined March 2013
United States1302 Posts
February 14 2014 16:45 GMT
#672
Yeah actually I agree w/ irobot. What Grack is doing is worse than lurking because he obviously has been around since he's been posting. But all he's done is basically troll the thread so far.

##Vote Grackaroni

Start giving reads/analysis/something
roundabound
Profile Joined February 2014
Niue881 Posts
February 14 2014 16:47 GMT
#673
Grack who's your preferred lynch atm and why?

~rayn
Mocsta & IAmRobik hydra
IAmRobik
Profile Joined January 2014
United States5878 Posts
February 14 2014 16:47 GMT
#674
On February 15 2014 01:40 Grackaroni wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 15 2014 01:36 IAmRobik wrote:
Grack...I'm rereading pg 29-31 so far. I know I'm new here. I don't know anything about your playstyle. But I think it's absolutely reasonable for me to spite vote you and never change if you don't fucking start contributing actual content. You've done nothing so far and I'm baffled that Rayn can shittalk players on 2p2 when people like you play games on TL.

huh I don't think I've done nothing. I've done little.

I honestly don't give a shit. If you wanna play the game, then play the game. If you wanna troll the internet, as your signature suggests, go to the millions of other websites and forums or wherever you wanna go and do it there. Everytime I see your posts, the enjoyment I get from playing mafia is ruined. Is this seriously how you play every game?
Grackaroni
Profile Joined July 2011
United States9856 Posts
February 14 2014 16:50 GMT
#675
On February 15 2014 01:47 roundabound wrote:
Grack who's your preferred lynch atm and why?

~rayn

I'm still ok with lynching Kushm4sta. He looks off and I don't know what the fuck Vivax is doing.
Balla24
Profile Joined December 2011
2322 Posts
February 14 2014 16:51 GMT
#676
VOTE COUNT:

thrawn2112 (0): IAmRobik
VIVAX420 (2): thrawn2112, ShiaoPi, Grackaroni
IAmRobik (0): roundabound
DoNotPanic! (0): roundabound
Grackaroni (2): IAmRobik, JarJarDrinks

With 13 players alive it takes 7 votes to lynch. Only votes in the Voting Thread will be counted!
Grackaroni
Profile Joined July 2011
United States9856 Posts
February 14 2014 16:51 GMT
#677
On February 15 2014 01:47 IAmRobik wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 15 2014 01:40 Grackaroni wrote:
On February 15 2014 01:36 IAmRobik wrote:
Grack...I'm rereading pg 29-31 so far. I know I'm new here. I don't know anything about your playstyle. But I think it's absolutely reasonable for me to spite vote you and never change if you don't fucking start contributing actual content. You've done nothing so far and I'm baffled that Rayn can shittalk players on 2p2 when people like you play games on TL.

huh I don't think I've done nothing. I've done little.

I honestly don't give a shit. If you wanna play the game, then play the game. If you wanna troll the internet, as your signature suggests, go to the millions of other websites and forums or wherever you wanna go and do it there. Everytime I see your posts, the enjoyment I get from playing mafia is ruined. Is this seriously how you play every game?

So I have done something?
Grackaroni
Profile Joined July 2011
United States9856 Posts
February 14 2014 16:54 GMT
#678
Rayn you haven't actually said who you want to lynch.
roundabound
Profile Joined February 2014
Niue881 Posts
February 14 2014 16:56 GMT
#679
On February 13 2014 22:39 sidesprang wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 13 2014 22:26 VIVAX420 wrote:
i thought more about mattchew's comment on sidespring.
the post itself wasn't nervous, but I think it might show nervousness that he chose to talk about setup over everything else.



wtf...

This is a really bad answer to the suspicions raised on sidesprang earlier on. I didn't find the post about setup scummy but this answer to the case on him is really underwhelming.
On February 14 2014 02:12 sidesprang wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 14 2014 01:57 Grackaroni wrote:
Sheepin' it up.
##Vote: Sidesprang


You know there is a seperate voting thread ?

@JJD, you were pretty much on me whole last game aswell. Was town there, think you should adjust the way you are reading me.

Also this rings alarm bells. JJD read sidesprang wrong in the last game, now he is not supposed to think he is mafia, only for that reason? Really bad..

I also have no idea who this guy thinks is mafia. Read his filter. Can someone tell who sidesprang thinks is scum? Pretty much all of his posts are weak defenses that are not really even defenses or questions that are not followed up in any way.

##Vote: sidesprang

I've no idea where Mocsta stands and i need to talk to him about DNP and Mordanis, but i do not wanna lynch JJD. He looks like he is at least trying to play and he'll give away his alignment later on. But sidesprang is the most suspicious person in thread for me atm.

~rayn
Mocsta & IAmRobik hydra
roundabound
Profile Joined February 2014
Niue881 Posts
February 14 2014 16:58 GMT
#680
On February 15 2014 01:50 Grackaroni wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 15 2014 01:47 roundabound wrote:
Grack who's your preferred lynch atm and why?

~rayn

I'm still ok with lynching Kushm4sta. He looks off and I don't know what the fuck Vivax is doing.

Cna you build up an actual case? kushamsta says stuff that is dumb all the time. I don't think they are near top suspicious people. While the motivation behind some of their posts is really hard to understand it's normal at least for kush lol.

~rayn
Mocsta & IAmRobik hydra
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