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roundabound
Profile Joined February 2014
Niue881 Posts
February 19 2014 01:46 GMT
#1281
On February 19 2014 10:44 VIVAX420 wrote:
where is teh case put forth?

Read the thread

This is now the second time with me you are shooting ya mouth off with no knowledge of thread occurrence

gumshoe made a case....

~moc
Mocsta & IAmRobik hydra
roundabound
Profile Joined February 2014
Niue881 Posts
February 19 2014 01:53 GMT
#1283
So u are certain he is town?

~moc
Mocsta & IAmRobik hydra
roundabound
Profile Joined February 2014
Niue881 Posts
February 19 2014 02:03 GMT
#1288
On February 19 2014 10:56 VIVAX420 wrote:
Mocsta, expain to me, in your own words, why you find Mattchew worthy of a quick lynch today,.

That's an extremely scummy misconstrued depiction of events.

I am not advocating a quick hammer. I am advocating a scum lynch. Frankly I see nothing wrong with 4 votes of 6.

It is now genuine pressure to respond and if he is town and scum want to insta hammer then be my guest

I already gave an addition to gumshoes case on Mattchew.
As town in my experience Matthew pushes Ppl regardless of sentiment. E.g. Marv. Though he is a lurker by activity standards it is still transparent where he stands on key topics.

This game is filled with apathy and overall I don't know where he stands.

I agree with the case put forth

~moc
Mocsta & IAmRobik hydra
roundabound
Profile Joined February 2014
Niue881 Posts
February 19 2014 02:12 GMT
#1291
On February 19 2014 11:06 IAmRobik wrote:
IF YOU GUYS DON'T UNVOTE MATTCHEW AND WE REACH IML, I'M JUST GOING TO START LYNCHING EVERY SINGLE PERSON ON HIM...IDC IF HE FLIPS MAF OR TOWN

Get off your high horse.

U haven't given a single reason why the votes are misplaced nor why they should be removed

Then u ignore questions direcrly related to it.

Explain thr above and i will give it consideration, until then there is no issue that i see.

~moc
Mocsta & IAmRobik hydra
roundabound
Profile Joined February 2014
Niue881 Posts
February 19 2014 02:14 GMT
#1292
On February 19 2014 11:11 Grackaroni wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 19 2014 10:43 VIVAX420 wrote:
grack if you respect my opinion at all, and you should because we are very alike, you should unvote mattchew. yeah he doesn;t look super townie but he never does. he is lynch bait.

I wouldn't be so sure. Without showing Rayn appeared heavily against the Mattchew lynch and now Mocsta is the polar opposite of Rayn accusing you of being mafia and distancing from Mattchew.

I have never said i oppose the Mattchew lynch. Why would you think so? I said the opposite, i said i basically made the same case on D1, that's not opposing. I wanted people's opinions on the case.

~rayn
Mocsta & IAmRobik hydra
roundabound
Profile Joined February 2014
Niue881 Posts
February 19 2014 02:17 GMT
#1294
Robik, let's talk. You don't want to lynch Mattchew, that's pretty clear. I have no fucking idea why, but if you don't want that, who do you want to lynch?

You said this:
"lynch into Grack/Mordanis/jjd/sidesprang"

Specifically who and why? I am not going to support Grack lynch, that's for sure.
Mocsta & IAmRobik hydra
roundabound
Profile Joined February 2014
Niue881 Posts
February 19 2014 02:17 GMT
#1296
that was :

~rayn
Mocsta & IAmRobik hydra
roundabound
Profile Joined February 2014
Niue881 Posts
February 19 2014 02:19 GMT
#1297
Grack if Mattchew was off the table who'd you lynch?

~rayn
Mocsta & IAmRobik hydra
roundabound
Profile Joined February 2014
Niue881 Posts
February 19 2014 02:23 GMT
#1299
On February 19 2014 11:15 IAmRobik wrote:
If you want to vote him later that's fine, but there are 4 votes on him and he hasn't spoken today iirc. 6 votes is maj. I explained my reasoning about it plenty of times. Again, you and rayn don't have to agree with my reads or reasoning, but having your vote in a place with the possibility for people to snap maj lynch without us knowing during the night is either super scummy, or just garbage play.

This is where we disagree.
Most likely this is an issue of forum pedigree vs live mafia pedigree.

There is more accountability in forum play because of post history.

What i am saying is. 4 votes is a good amount of pressure to gauge a genuine reaction from mattchew. U r effectively cock bloxking this by asking to remove votes.

With your scenario if 2 ppl want to hammer mattchew without letting him speak... Well that is their acciuntability and we shall deal with it accordingly.

In short we are in a position to assess people voting mattchew and to elicit a genuine response from mattchew.

Win/win

~moc
Mocsta & IAmRobik hydra
roundabound
Profile Joined February 2014
Niue881 Posts
February 19 2014 02:25 GMT
#1301
Is there any reasoning or have i missed something?
I am personally leaning towards 3 scum being in Mattchew/sidesprang/Mordanis/bum/JJD.

bumatlarge looks definitely best from those people, last game he had no balls to even counter my arguments against him as mafia, as town he attacked me pretty hard in NMM D1 because he felt like i said something scummy. While he is fucking wrong about the meta (that was really bad) i am not sure if it's mafia-esque.

JJD looks the second best. He's putting effort to the game, while i don't like his conclusions i can see where he is coming from if he is town. I also like his vote on sidesprang who only goes after anything he can even say is lynchworthy and every time it gains no traction he fucking disappears and continues having no opinions.

gumshoe's case on Mattchew is good.

Mordanis keeps flip-flopping around with no real opinions at all.

~rayn
Mocsta & IAmRobik hydra
roundabound
Profile Joined February 2014
Niue881 Posts
February 19 2014 02:28 GMT
#1302
On February 19 2014 11:24 IAmRobik wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 19 2014 11:17 roundabound wrote:
Robik, let's talk. You don't want to lynch Mattchew, that's pretty clear. I have no fucking idea why, but if you don't want that, who do you want to lynch?

You said this:
"lynch into Grack/Mordanis/jjd/sidesprang"

Specifically who and why? I am not going to support Grack lynch, that's for sure.

If we decide as a majority to lynch him today, that's fine...but like. It hasn't even been 24hrs and we are about to lynch someone that hasn't spoken. That's just badbadbad. I don't have the time right now to go into detail about those people, but I assure you that I will at some point either tonight or tomorrow. We spent 4 days trying to lynch someone on d1, but now that we have MORE INFORMATION, we are rushing to vote someone off before 24hrs pass. CMON. Just fucking unvote and let's analyze further and talk some more and figure out who the BEST VOTE is.

Putting someone on L-2 has nothing to do with wanting to quickhammer someone.
It's the pressure. If he is town scum can hammer him, and it won't even be a loss because he is playing against town wincon by being abosulutely useless and worthless to the town atm. I do not count on him making good decisions even if he is town. He needs to talk. And quick.

Again, you avoided the question. Who do you want to lynch? You can't just say "don't lynch this guy" and not give an alternative. Make a case please.

~rayn
Mocsta & IAmRobik hydra
roundabound
Profile Joined February 2014
Niue881 Posts
February 19 2014 02:30 GMT
#1303
And our opinion atm is the best vote is Mattchew.
Who's yours?

~rayn
Mocsta & IAmRobik hydra
roundabound
Profile Joined February 2014
Niue881 Posts
February 19 2014 02:40 GMT
#1306
I told Mocsta i was okay with ShiaoPi lynch because he refused to play and then i was not online any more. I was really bored because the game got stalled like ~30 hours before the lynch and didn't give a shit.

Vivax go read LXIV and how i pushed my lynch when people disagreed with it. I don't honeslty care anymore if people want to be fucking stupid and not read properly. I am not going to repeat my cases. In LXIV i voted bumatlarge every single fucking day after D1 after making a solid case on him, and got shot down every single fucking day. I just don't give a fuck if people don't want to listen..

Go read my case on sidesprang from D1, or go read Mocsta's case on Mordanis from N1. Those are the lynches we are supporting atm besides Mattchew, i am not going to repeat myself. I don't care how it looks, it's your fault if you don't read properly or disagree.

~rayn
Mocsta & IAmRobik hydra
roundabound
Profile Joined February 2014
Niue881 Posts
February 19 2014 02:47 GMT
#1308
Vivax

I have noticed this game you refuse to take a firm position on anything.

Instead you put out some musings and let others carry the work load for you

This pattern is repeating again.


Your argument is dumb. You are saying that because I find people in this game suspicious it is scummy to reassess votes.
What I am doing is being accountable and constantly trying to solve the game.
This is the polar opposite of your play.

And your point about hydra difference of opinion is equally flawed.
We both post freely and trust each other because there is nothing to hide.
That u think it is an issue rayn and I don't share the same priority targets is a very weak argument.

~moc
Mocsta & IAmRobik hydra
roundabound
Profile Joined February 2014
Niue881 Posts
February 19 2014 02:48 GMT
#1309
On February 19 2014 11:32 VIVAX420 wrote:
Explanation: Shiao in a position to be lynched, Rayn unwilling to defend him, but also unwilling to let loose of SS to keep up the scumhunting picture. Hence, post cases against his target without discussing the main lynch candidate.

This is fucking crap because i was not here and Mocsta was so you can't even know what i would have or would not have done. I just told you, no i would have not defended him because he was scummy as fuck. But this comment from you is really shitty and twisting what really happened to look like something else. I am disappointed Vivax.

~rayn
Mocsta & IAmRobik hydra
roundabound
Profile Joined February 2014
Niue881 Posts
February 19 2014 02:49 GMT
#1310
Grack

Do u think a townie would ignore discussing my case when doing a thread summary?

~moc
Mocsta & IAmRobik hydra
roundabound
Profile Joined February 2014
Niue881 Posts
February 19 2014 02:49 GMT
#1311
On February 19 2014 11:48 roundabound wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 19 2014 11:32 VIVAX420 wrote:
Explanation: Shiao in a position to be lynched, Rayn unwilling to defend him, but also unwilling to let loose of SS to keep up the scumhunting picture. Hence, post cases against his target without discussing the main lynch candidate.

This is fucking crap because i was not here and Mocsta was so you can't even know what i would have or would not have done. I just told you, no i would have not defended him because he was scummy as fuck. But this comment from you is really shitty and twisting what really happened to look like something else. I am disappointed Vivax.

~rayn

+1

~moc
Mocsta & IAmRobik hydra
roundabound
Profile Joined February 2014
Niue881 Posts
February 19 2014 02:50 GMT
#1312
On February 19 2014 11:49 roundabound wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 19 2014 11:48 roundabound wrote:
On February 19 2014 11:32 VIVAX420 wrote:
Explanation: Shiao in a position to be lynched, Rayn unwilling to defend him, but also unwilling to let loose of SS to keep up the scumhunting picture. Hence, post cases against his target without discussing the main lynch candidate.

This is fucking crap because i was not here and Mocsta was so you can't even know what i would have or would not have done. I just told you, no i would have not defended him because he was scummy as fuck. But this comment from you is really shitty and twisting what really happened to look like something else. I am disappointed Vivax.

~rayn

+1

~moc

Mocsta confirmed town.

~rayn
Mocsta & IAmRobik hydra
roundabound
Profile Joined February 2014
Niue881 Posts
February 19 2014 03:15 GMT
#1317
Mordanis what's your take on cases presented on D2 other than yours? Do you think you can get bumatlarge lynched and if you do, why are you not pushing the case more or asking opinions on it?

~rayn
Mocsta & IAmRobik hydra
roundabound
Profile Joined February 2014
Niue881 Posts
February 19 2014 03:25 GMT
#1322
On February 19 2014 12:23 VIVAX420 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 19 2014 11:47 roundabound wrote:
Vivax

I have noticed this game you refuse to take a firm position on anything.

Instead you put out some musings and let others carry the work load for you

This pattern is repeating again.



I'm hesitant to lynching when there are so many unknown alignments. Kush put the vote after I unvoted. Thrawn pretty much knew how to play IML. Lengthen the days, increase the time town has. You prefer to opt for quick lynches and get frustrated with no occurring lynches even when there are so many options for people being scum.

Besides, you might want to get to the point with your made observations. Do you suspect me of being scum or is this just something you wrote as offensive defense.

~V

This is not fucking true and you are twisting anything to look something else than it really is and now Vivax, i want to know why the hell are you doing this????

~rayn
Mocsta & IAmRobik hydra
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