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Amiko
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Amiko
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On February 17 2014 12:00 theDragoon wrote: I've a strong town read on Cavalinho, I really like his posts and the reasoning he's put into them, especially where he goes over the scenarios in which Amiko flips. He's really put himself out there trying to help town, even going as far as quoting one of the guides on TL to support his read on Amiko. After reading through Cavalinho's and OnceKing's posts, I'm starting to be a bit more convinced that Amiko is scum, however with so many inactives I will wait until they start posting more before casting my vote. Scum have a huge incentive to hide right now if Amiko is town. I think Cavalinho's analysis of the flips is off and you should not like these scenarios. On February 17 2014 08:33 Cavalinho wrote: A) Amiko flips green or, heaven forbid, blue. 1: The mafia will most likely be hiding amongst the inactives since they had almost no pressure put on them throughout the first day. 2: Mafia started the lynch and cast suspicion on themselves. This is a possible scenario, but it's still unlikely that a cop check will solve the issue since the most likely candidate for pushing someone that is supposedly town would be the Godfather. I think #1 makes some sense because Mafia doesn't know when starting a vote whether town would follow. This is why I don't feel that OnceKing voting me reflects any scumminess. But, Mafia have every incentive to join in the vote on a non-mafia player. Right now mafia should be encouraging the idea that I am the only vote for today, or that the vote is decided at this point. That's why this post by Tolkein is troubling: On February 17 2014 08:16 Lord Tolkien wrote: I'm not entirely convinced that Amiko is red, but I don't think at this point it matters. ##vote Amiko Depending on the flip: 1) Die scum die 2) Sorry mang, but take one for the town I'm not advocating a vote for Tolkein right now, but that post is encouraging the idea that the day is already over. Even if you think I'm the scummiest player, you should be pressuring other players to give their logic and explaining your reasoning so that town has more information for the following day. In other words, mafia shouldn't be hiding among the inactives, they should be actively trying to close the deal on me. Basically, Cavalinho and I entirely disagree. He thinks mafia are either the leaders, or uninvolved in the vote. I think mafia have the most to gain by encouraging an incorrect vote. On February 17 2014 08:33 Cavalinho wrote: B) Amiko flips red. 1: Mafia either defended him or bussed. Either way, mafia wouldn't be so outspoken on the first day trying to attract attention to themselves. 2: The people running the lynch should be almost confirmed town since mafia obviously wouldn't run one of their own guys into the ground so early. I won't flip red so I don't see much point in commenting on this. But, I do agree it's unlikely mafia would bus when there are probably 2-3 mafia in the game. | ||
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OnceKing
United States939 Posts
I actually agree with you regarding your points on Cavalinho and Lord Tolkien. More specifically I feel that they've both jumped onto the wagon I'm pushing onto you without contributing anything themselves: Cavalinho just said I beat him to it and Lord Tolkien, well... Going through his filter here's what Lord Tolkien's got: - random soft defense of you from before our roles came out - says he's unconvinced that Amiko is scum, then votes for him saying his vote doesn't matter (???)* - quoted a Cavalinho hypothetical scenario breakdown and just said he agreed with it without adding anything - takes no sides -- I'm either "town or Godfather", Cavalinho is "slight scum" or "moderate town", Beneather being slightly scum for voting him (???) - speculates on setup (meh) - focuses an awful lot on Godfather/NKs *Yes, your vote always matters. If you're town then this is your weapon. The only thing is that he's been posting a lot which I appreciate but I just don't see anything original coming out of him, and here's a disconcerting post... On February 17 2014 08:14 Lord Tolkien wrote: Since we have to lynch someone (I don't think we can go for no lynchings), I'm fine lynching Amiko and, assuming we have a Cop, checking either you (most favorable) or OnceKing (I read him as townish, but just to make sure). How we move forward Day 2 depends on how Amiko reads and if we get a red read (which isn't reliable since Godfather, and we probably have a 33%-50% chance of that being the fake read we get, and we might not have a Cop), but unless something new comes up, that's my (newbie) analysis of what we should do. Yeah, we're all newbies here. Why bring it up? I reiterate, who CARES how much experience we do or don't have? Presumably we've all read guides or bits and pieces of other games or something else -- why should you want to detract from your own analysis unless you're trying to hide? | ||
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OnceKing
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Beneather
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On February 17 2014 08:16 Lord Tolkien wrote: I'm not entirely convinced that Amiko is red, but I don't think at this point it matters. ##vote Amiko Depending on the flip: 1) Die scum die 2) Sorry mang, but take one for the town makes it seem he just wants to end the day with a lynch on Amiko without any further discussion. His mind is made up it seems and does not want to pressure any other players. On February 17 2014 12:28 Lord Tolkien wrote: I meant that if I were a blue. There's no reason for a cop or somesuch to be forward/active in Day 1, because it draws attention to themselves for a night kill from mafia. The only blue role (if I am a blue) that leads you to think I would be is a Veteran because I can soak a night shot. Assuming I'm not vanilla town or mafia, which are the other logical possibilities. I'm willing to bet the same thing generally with OnceKing, and probably Caval as well. Green, veteran, or mafia are the likely choices. Let's say we don't lynch Amiko on this day, and Tolkien would be killed on the night or is actually a veteran and takes a shot. That would mean Amiko would be scum, since Tolkien is pushing for an Amiko lynch on d1. I still do not understand why Tolkien feels that Amiko is scummy. Right now I don't have any good reads on anyone and I will do some further reading, sorry for the absence, will report later with more analysis. | ||
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Cavalinho
United States946 Posts
On February 17 2014 13:12 OnceKing wrote: re: Amiko I actually agree with you regarding your points on Cavalinho and Lord Tolkien. More specifically I feel that they've both jumped onto the wagon I'm pushing onto you without contributing anything themselves: Cavalinho just said I beat him to it and Lord Tolkien, well... Going through his filter here's what Lord Tolkien's got: - random soft defense of you from before our roles came out - says he's unconvinced that Amiko is scum, then votes for him saying his vote doesn't matter (???)* - quoted a Cavalinho hypothetical scenario breakdown and just said he agreed with it without adding anything - takes no sides -- I'm either "town or Godfather", Cavalinho is "slight scum" or "moderate town", Beneather being slightly scum for voting him (???) - speculates on setup (meh) - focuses an awful lot on Godfather/NKs *Yes, your vote always matters. If you're town then this is your weapon. The only thing is that he's been posting a lot which I appreciate but I just don't see anything original coming out of him, and here's a disconcerting post... Yeah, we're all newbies here. Why bring it up? I reiterate, who CARES how much experience we do or don't have? Presumably we've all read guides or bits and pieces of other games or something else -- why should you want to detract from your own analysis unless you're trying to hide? I've been contributing. Just because I agree with your earlier post doesn't make me mafia. What, am I not allowed to follow plans through? Can I not agree with another person's analysis? I'm wasting time and effort defending myself because he keeps pushing on me for following a plan. Basically all of my posts boil down to either trying to kill Amiko or save myself, because he keeps calling me out for agreeing with you. I think it's ridiculous that I'm getting looked at as possible mafia because I agree with someone else's analysis. (For the record, I agree with all of what you said about it. Just in case this comes up again.) I'm actually getting very frustrated with the way this is going, because I can't sit down and get reads from anyone since I'm defending my views every other post I make. Even when I point at both Lord Tolkein and IAmRobik, I have people doubting the fact that I'm town since I'm focused on getting one lynch done today and looking at these other people in the mean time. (And also, Tolkein's disinterest in who gets lynched today is very concerning. I know I suggested him slightly before, but if we aren't going to go after Amiko, then I suggest either IAmRobik or Lord Tolkein.) Also, I stated earlier that we should be using our cop checks on the uncertains. Amiko's activity should tell us enough about his agenda if we leave him alone long enough, and we obviously can't get rid of all 2-3 mafia in one day. | ||
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OnceKing
United States939 Posts
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Cavalinho
United States946 Posts
On February 17 2014 14:13 OnceKing wrote: Whoa, defensive! I'm just saying that you just agreed with me without really adding anything new. I'm honestly looking pretty hard at Lord Tolkien right now -- and I'd like to see a more split situation on votes anyhow because this will drive more discussion. Therefore, ##VOTE Lord Tolkien I'm getting very frustrated with Amiko. I'm going to stay on this vote until tomorrow and see what's going on later. | ||
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Lord Tolkien
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On February 17 2014 13:49 Beneather wrote: ##UNVOTE As of right now I don't think Lord Tolkien is scum. However this post, makes it seem he just wants to end the day with a lynch on Amiko without any further discussion. His mind is made up it seems and does not want to pressure any other players. Ending the day on a lynch on Amiko, at the time of posting, would've revealed enough info on Day 2 for us (and me) to start going on, given the two who were initially in on it, depending on which way he flipped. If green, there's reasonable suspicion cast upon OnceKing and Cavalinho. In the off-chance he was red, well, we again know. I wasn't entirely convinced he was scum, but he was the "scummiest" read I had from the limited set of posts (and I wasn't willing to vote on him initially, if you read my filter), and remains so unless a new case is brought up. [quote\ On February 17 2014 12:28 Lord Tolkien wrote: I meant that if I were a blue. There's no reason for a cop or somesuch to be forward/active in Day 1, because it draws attention to themselves for a night kill from mafia. The only blue role (if I am a blue) that leads you to think I would be is a Veteran because I can soak a night shot. Assuming I'm not vanilla town or mafia, which are the other logical possibilities. I'm willing to bet the same thing generally with OnceKing, and probably Caval as well. Green, veteran, or mafia are the likely choices. Let's say we don't lynch Amiko on this day, and Tolkien would be killed on the night or is actually a veteran and takes a shot. That would mean Amiko would be scum, since Tolkien is pushing for an Amiko lynch on d1. I still do not understand why Tolkien feels that Amiko is scummy. Right now I don't have any good reads on anyone and I will do some further reading, sorry for the absence, will report later with more analysis.[/QUOTE] I'm not going to speculate on night actions at this point of time yet, as there are too many variables to account for outside of a mafia kill. But if you guys would like, bring up a case against me. I'd like to see why people thing I'm scummy so I can rebut them. QUOTE]On February 17 2014 13:12 OnceKing wrote: re: Amiko I actually agree with you regarding your points on Cavalinho and Lord Tolkien. More specifically I feel that they've both jumped onto the wagon I'm pushing onto you without contributing anything themselves: Cavalinho just said I beat him to it and Lord Tolkien, well... Going through his filter here's what Lord Tolkien's got: - random soft defense of you from before our roles came out - says he's unconvinced that Amiko is scum, then votes for him saying his vote doesn't matter (???)* - quoted a Cavalinho hypothetical scenario breakdown and just said he agreed with it without adding anything - takes no sides -- I'm either "town or Godfather", Cavalinho is "slight scum" or "moderate town", Beneather being slightly scum for voting him (???) - speculates on setup (meh) - focuses an awful lot on Godfather/NKs *Yes, your vote always matters. If you're town then this is your weapon. The only thing is that he's been posting a lot which I appreciate but I just don't see anything original coming out of him, and here's a disconcerting post...[/quote] Responding to you an Amiko at the same time: 1) I've outlined why I decided to vote for the lynch, and why, given the limited information set, a lynch on Amiko would've been fine for me going into Day 2. While there was a soft defense, I do state that it was still a scummy post, even if I wasn't going to commit immediately. This is why I stated that, while I'm wasn't entirely convinced about Amiko being red, I was willing to go with a lynch on him. It would reveal information about OnceKing and Cavalinho depending on which way he flipped. 2) I posted a clarification to it in the possible case that Amiko turns up green, immediately after the agreement. 3) Given the limited number of posts, there was not much to go on besides your initiation of the lynch on Amiko, his responses and back-and-forth with Cavalinho. Therefore, my reads on you and Cavalinho, if the lynch had gone through, would've been based on the flip. That the whole point of it all. 4) The scummy read on Beneather is a joke. I'm fairly certain I made that clear, as I write jokes differently. slightly scummy just for voting for me. i aint no mafia bish~ Note the lack of capitalization. compared to the rest of the post. And the ~. And bish. You're really trying for the dregs here. On February 17 2014 08:14 Lord Tolkien wrote: Since we have to lynch someone (I don't think we can go for no lynchings), I'm fine lynching Amiko and, assuming we have a Cop, checking either you (most favorable) or OnceKing (I read him as townish, but just to make sure). How we move forward Day 2 depends on how Amiko reads and if we get a red read (which isn't reliable since Godfather, and we probably have a 33%-50% chance of that being the fake read we get, and we might not have a Cop), but unless something new comes up, that's my (newbie) analysis of what we should do. Yeah, we're all newbies here. Why bring it up? I reiterate, who CARES how much experience we do or don't have? Presumably we've all read guides or bits and pieces of other games or something else -- why should you want to detract from your own analysis unless you're trying to hide? [/QUOTE] Why the fuck are you focusing on one word in the entire analysis OUTLINING EXACTLY WHY I WAS FOR THE LYNCH YOU INITIATED (and then have the audacity try to question why I would vote for him despite being entirely sold in later posts)? If I had removed (newbie), would that change anything about the damn post about all? So why the hell are you tunnel visioning on this? Stop being an irrelevant nitpick. FFS. | ||
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Lord Tolkien
United States12083 Posts
+ Show Spoiler + On February 17 2014 13:49 Beneather wrote: ##UNVOTE As of right now I don't think Lord Tolkien is scum. However this post, makes it seem he just wants to end the day with a lynch on Amiko without any further discussion. His mind is made up it seems and does not want to pressure any other players. Ending the day on a lynch on Amiko, at the time of posting, would've revealed enough info on Day 2 for us (and me) to start going on, given the two who were initially in on it, depending on which way he flipped. If green, there's reasonable suspicion cast upon OnceKing and Cavalinho. In the off-chance he was red, well, we again know. I wasn't entirely convinced he was scum, but he was the "scummiest" read I had from the limited set of posts (and I wasn't willing to vote on him initially, if you read my filter), and remains so unless a new case is brought up. Let's say we don't lynch Amiko on this day, and Tolkien would be killed on the night or is actually a veteran and takes a shot. That would mean Amiko would be scum, since Tolkien is pushing for an Amiko lynch on d1. I still do not understand why Tolkien feels that Amiko is scummy. Right now I don't have any good reads on anyone and I will do some further reading, sorry for the absence, will report later with more analysis. I'm not going to speculate on night actions at this point of time yet, as there are too many variables to account for outside of a mafia kill. But if you guys would like, bring up a case against me. I'd like to see why people thing I'm scummy so I can rebut them. On February 17 2014 13:12 OnceKing wrote: re: Amiko I actually agree with you regarding your points on Cavalinho and Lord Tolkien. More specifically I feel that they've both jumped onto the wagon I'm pushing onto you without contributing anything themselves: Cavalinho just said I beat him to it and Lord Tolkien, well... Going through his filter here's what Lord Tolkien's got: - random soft defense of you from before our roles came out - says he's unconvinced that Amiko is scum, then votes for him saying his vote doesn't matter (???)* - quoted a Cavalinho hypothetical scenario breakdown and just said he agreed with it without adding anything - takes no sides -- I'm either "town or Godfather", Cavalinho is "slight scum" or "moderate town", Beneather being slightly scum for voting him (???) - speculates on setup (meh) - focuses an awful lot on Godfather/NKs *Yes, your vote always matters. If you're town then this is your weapon. The only thing is that he's been posting a lot which I appreciate but I just don't see anything original coming out of him, and here's a disconcerting post... Responding to you an Amiko at the same time: 1) I've outlined why I decided to vote for the lynch, and why, given the limited information set, a lynch on Amiko would've been fine for me going into Day 2. While there was a soft defense, I do state that it was still a scummy post, even if I wasn't going to commit immediately. This is why I stated that, while I'm wasn't entirely convinced about Amiko being red, I was willing to go with a lynch on him. It would reveal information about OnceKing and Cavalinho depending on which way he flipped. 2) I posted a clarification to it in the possible case that Amiko turns up green, immediately after the agreement. 3) Given the limited number of posts, there was not much to go on besides your initiation of the lynch on Amiko, his responses and back-and-forth with Cavalinho. Therefore, my reads on you and Cavalinho, if the lynch had gone through, would've been based on the flip. That the whole point of it all. 4) The scummy read on Beneather is a joke. I'm fairly certain I made that clear, as I write jokes differently. slightly scummy just for voting for me. i aint no mafia bish~ Note the lack of capitalization. compared to the rest of the post. And the ~. And bish. You're really trying for the dregs here. Yeah, we're all newbies here. Why bring it up? I reiterate, who CARES how much experience we do or don't have? Presumably we've all read guides or bits and pieces of other games or something else -- why should you want to detract from your own analysis unless you're trying to hide? Why the fuck are you focusing on one word in the entire analysis OUTLINING EXACTLY WHY I WAS FOR THE LYNCH YOU INITIATED (and then have the audacity try to question why I would vote for him despite being entirely sold in later posts)? If I had removed (newbie), would that change anything about the damn post about all? So why the hell are you tunnel visioning on this? Stop being an irrelevant nitpick. FFS. | ||
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Lord Tolkien
United States12083 Posts
1) Cavalinho, why exactly do you think I'm scummy, or IAmRobik is scummy? I'd like to address the former, and the latter seems...confusing at best since his contributions have been minimal, and your random suspicions drawn right after his (joke) response to your joke response. His only posts have been: On February 17 2014 05:25 IAmRobik wrote: OnceKing, That's one hell of an argument for a newbie game. what's your experience? On February 17 2014 06:19 IAmRobik wrote: Let's not talk about roles There are maximum 3 maf Neither of which, while relatively unhelpful, also point towards scum. | ||
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OnceKing
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Great job so you supported me on the lynch I started, so what? The question isn't what you did but instead how you did it. You supported my lynch by... how again? Remind me because I can't recall you actually contributing anything except trying to throw doubt on the people who started the wagon while joining the wagon yourself. The icing on the cake is now you say you're sold on the wagon when previously you were unconvinced, then you were voting him for dubious reasons -- now that you've been called on it you claim to have been solidly on it when a quick perusal of your filter shows that this is in fact not the case. And hey let's even ask what it means about me if Amiko gets lynched flips green. Spoilers: It means absolutely nothing! If I'm town, how do I have any definite knowledge of what he is? I don't, therefore I can only use the tools I have available to me which are logic and scumhunting, now being turned onto you. Think IAmRobik's scummy, or anything? Make a case and vote him. | ||
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OnceKing
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Lord Tolkien
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On February 17 2014 15:12 OnceKing wrote: lol. Great job so you supported me on the lynch I started, so what? The question isn't what you did but instead how you did it. You supported my lynch by... how again? Remind me because I can't recall you actually contributing anything except trying to throw doubt on the people who started the wagon while joining the wagon yourself. The icing on the cake is now you say you're sold on the wagon when previously you were unconvinced, then you were voting him for dubious reasons -- now that you've been called on it you claim to have been solidly on it when a quick perusal of your filter shows that this is in fact not the case. On February 17 2014 06:03 Lord Tolkien wrote: Alright, since we're apparently getting into srs bzns the opening of Day 1, 1) Given the last of mod post, I'm going to assume that there isn't an innocent child. That also means we might not have other roles either. 2) On Amiko, he's (she's?) been helpful thus far at least in providing a spreadsheet copy for us to use. That being said, his post-role post is, as you guys noted, is kinda scummy. I disagree with this point. There's no reason to lynch lurkers Day 1 where there's limited information for them to participate anyways. The later the game goes, the more valid an option it becomes. But right now this post was pretty incredibly unhelpful, even if I do appreciate the town read. That being said, for an opening post I'm not yet entirely convinced to bandwagon. I'd prefer a stronger case to be brought up. Was my initial response to the opening of the case. This was my other response directly to Amiko: On February 17 2014 06:56 Lord Tolkien wrote: For your day 1 post: though it was long, it was fairly low-content like most of the other Day 1 posts, with the only outstanding quality of being long. Verbosity is not a redeeming quality in and of itself. I appreciate the extra info on yourself, but that wasn't necessary. We learned that: 1) you've read mafia threads before and this is your first mafia game on TL (aka like most of us, unnecessary I feel but that may just be me) 2) you claimed town (uninteresting) 3) when to expect your posts (somewhat useful, but unnecessary). Outside of that, you volunteered a town read on me for asking about the innocent child, and then advocated lynching idle players. I'm fine lynching idle players, it's a question of WHEN we lynch them. Day 1, it's a terrible idea due to limited information. You listed OneKing as an idle player and he actively contributed once he had a read, for instance. As the game progresses, then it becomes a very valid choice. As is, I would strongly recommend avoiding a Day 1 lurker lynch. The longer the game goes the better lynching lurkers becomes, but atm, no. So in general, there are reasons why it seems scummy. Not willing to condemn you based on that solely since it was one post, you did put up a decent defense and raised good points about Cavalinho. And hey let's even ask what it means about me if Amiko gets lynched flips green. Spoilers: It means absolutely nothing! If I'm town, how do I have any definite knowledge of what he is? I don't, therefore I can only use the tools I have available to me which are logic and scumhunting, now being turned onto you. It's entirely possible both of you are town, or that you, Amiko, and Cavalinho are also town. In which case, the lynch would've been unfortunate. But. given the way the case was going and the interactions involved, I'm betting at least one of you is mafia. I'm still waiting on a cognizant case against me. If that's all it amounts to, cool. I'll let everyone else judge this. Think IAmRobik's scummy, or anything? Make a case and vote him. I don't think he's scummy, just lurking; however, Cavalinho does. There's a minimal amount of posts that suggest this, which is why I'm questioning him about it. | ||
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theDragoon
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On February 17 2014 12:46 Amiko wrote: theDragoon & Valenius: I'm not sure. They have contributed a little but I don't have a read yet. I would like to ask both, if you were to pick someone other than me to lynch, who would you pick and why? If I am lynched and flip green, what will your thoughts be on Cavalinho & I've got my eye on Lord Tolkien at this point in time mainly because of this: On February 17 2014 12:28 Lord Tolkien wrote: I meant that if I were a blue. There's no reason for a cop or somesuch to be forward/active in Day 1, because it draws attention to themselves for a night kill from mafia. The only blue role (if I am a blue) that leads you to think I would be is a Veteran because I can soak a night shot. Assuming I'm not vanilla town or mafia, which are the other logical possibilities. I'm willing to bet the same thing generally with OnceKing, and probably Caval as well. Green, veteran, or mafia are the likely choices. The problem I have with this is the soft blue claim. He's saying that a cop or similar blue role wouldn't be active on day 1 for fear of drawing attention to themselves. Then he says if he is blue, then he'd be a Veteran. I'm not really buying the whole I'm active therefore I'm a veteran thing. I feel like any townie, green or blue should try to be active so that we can gather as much info as we can. So by trying to suggest he is a blue, he can avoid 2 things: 1) getting lynched if people believe his suggestion, this works well if he's red 2) if mafia doesn't have a roleblocker and they believe he is a veteran then he avoids getting shot, he's basically banking on mafia not having a roleblocker. He'd be one of my lynch targets on day 1 just because I want to see if he's scum pretending to be blue. If he does get lynched and ends up flipping blue then it looks bad on me. However, I don't feel too strong about this one to vote him just yet. | ||
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Lord Tolkien
United States12083 Posts
On February 17 2014 15:37 theDragoon wrote: I've got my eye on Lord Tolkien at this point in time mainly because of this: The problem I have with this is the soft blue claim. He's saying that a cop or similar blue role wouldn't be active on day 1 for fear of drawing attention to themselves. Then he says if he is blue, then he'd be a Veteran. I'm not really buying the whole I'm active therefore I'm a veteran thing. I feel like any townie, green or blue should try to be active so that we can gather as much info as we can. So by trying to suggest he is a blue, he can avoid 2 things: 1) getting lynched if people believe his suggestion, this works well if he's red 2) if mafia doesn't have a roleblocker and they believe he is a veteran then he avoids getting shot, he's basically banking on mafia not having a roleblocker. He'd be one of my lynch targets on day 1 just because I want to see if he's scum pretending to be blue. If he does get lynched and ends up flipping blue then it looks bad on me. However, I don't feel too strong about this one to vote him just yet. I'm saying that I would either be green, a veteran, or red. Those are the possibilities, and I would say the same of Cavalinho and OnceKing. This doesn't just apply to me. I am highly skeptical that any of the three of us are a doctor, cop, or somesuch, because those roles will prefer not to be in the limelight. | ||
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OnceKing
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This is why I stated that, while I'm wasn't entirely convinced about Amiko being red, I was willing to go with a lynch on him. It would reveal information about OnceKing and Cavalinho depending on which way he flipped. Ahahahahaha. Lynching for "Information". Ya ok definitely voting you now. How's this for information. We lynch Lord Tolkien and he flips red. Sound good to all? | ||
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Lord Tolkien
United States12083 Posts
1) I am red, in which case, I would, as you stated, ward off a lynch if people believe me. 2) I am vanilla townie, in which case I get to ward away a mafia hit on my life by dissuading them from attacking me if they believe I'm a vet, or alternately eat a roleblock or a hit if they believe I'm a blue role, or die if they believe I'm a vanilla townie (unless they have other priorities). 3) I am not a non-vet blue role, in which case I draw mafia attention, inviting myself to being roleblocked or killed by the mafia. If they believe me, I'll be left alone, if not, they can roleblock me or kill me. 4) I am the vet; if they believe me, it helps make the mafia much more willing to push a lynch on me, and help us determine who's mafia. If they don't, I can eat a hit or a roleblock. | ||
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Lord Tolkien
United States12083 Posts
On February 17 2014 15:58 OnceKing wrote: Ok next question. If you are not sold on the lynch why are you voting for him still?? AND you say that you don't think IAmRobik is scummy, just inactive when you've clearly called out some of his posts as making him scummy, so what gives? You haven't done any real scumhunting thus far, and -- On February 17 2014 14:53 Lord Tolkien wrote: Alright, with a few new posts in the aftermath: 1) Cavalinho, why exactly do you think I'm scummy, or IAmRobik is scummy? I'd like to address the former, and the latter seems...confusing at best since his contributions have been minimal, and your random suspicions drawn right after his (joke) response to your joke response. His only posts have been: Neither of which, while relatively unhelpful, also point towards scum. THIS is not calling him out as scum. I was calling him out as a lurker to Cavalinho and that's it. Tell me everyone, is this calling IAmRobik out as scum like he suggests? Ahahahahaha. Lynching for "Information". Ya ok definitely voting you now. How's this for information. We lynch Lord Tolkien and he flips red. Sound good to all? How about this: if you guys do and I turn up green or blue, you guys lynch OnceKing? Because I'm now pretty sure you're scum after this post, and a town for a mafia is a pretty sure trade. | ||
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