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DarthPunk
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Australia10857 Posts
January 25 2014 00:36 GMT
#1781
Never gonna host again :/
"If I wanted your opinion, I'd have told you what it was."
Blazinghand *
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States25558 Posts
January 25 2014 00:37 GMT
#1782
we all make mistakes! far worse have been made than yours, dp
When you stare into the iCCup, the iCCup stares back.
TL+ Member
DarthPunk
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Australia10857 Posts
January 25 2014 00:47 GMT
#1783
Thanks to my co-hosts for carrying me. <3
"If I wanted your opinion, I'd have told you what it was."
JonnyLaw
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States3482 Posts
January 25 2014 00:58 GMT
#1784
Oh yeah, damn after reading obs qt artanis and zare made the right choice onrayn 100%.
zarepath
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States1626 Posts
January 25 2014 01:02 GMT
#1785
I need some feedback on being good scum. In every game I played last year, I was VT and really enjoyed it, and just rolling scum was paralyzing for me because the last time I'd been scum was my first game ever in a newbie game, and I was outed on day 2.

Barristan/Rayne particularly, because they put the most pressure on me day 1 -- what should I be doing/not doing as scum? I just couldn't even get myself in the right mindset.
"Your efforts you put in will never betray you." - Flash | "If I'm not good enough, I don't wanna win." - Naniwa
suki
Profile Joined August 2009
Canada1159 Posts
January 25 2014 01:04 GMT
#1786
Zare here is a trick that I use. Pretend that there's another scum team on the town side and your job is to find out who the other members of that scum team are.

Make cases on them and do your best to convince people that those guys are scum.

Of course it's not as simple as that cuz you have to also watch out for your teammates and stuff, but having a good mindset really helps.
Keirathi
Profile Joined May 2012
United States4679 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-01-25 02:02:18
January 25 2014 01:55 GMT
#1787
zarepath: I'm Barristan. I don't think there's anything you actuallly *did* that stuck out t me as being particularly scummy. But, like I said in the earlier post, I was in The Game and was solidly convinced you were town despite a lot of people saying you were scum, and I didn't get that vibe at all from this game.

To be fair, "meta" is kinda my niche. I'm not always right about it, but I think I have a fairly good grasp on how to use it effectively to read people.

Edit: to give some context in case you don't remember-

(This was all on Night 1 in The Game, where I subbed in and was NK'd)

On March 19 2013 15:27 Keirathi wrote:
@sciberbia:

I'm not interested in lynching zare right now. For one, I don't know his meta and I don't have time to read it tonight. But for two, he's mostly reading as newbie town to me. I completely disagree with his case on Hopeless, but that's because I am very familiar with Hopeless' play. But otherwise, he brought up some solid points on Hopeless and Wiggles. He seems to be trying to figure things out like a newbie town would.

My biggest problem with his play, actually, is him playing the newbie card. But that's not enough that I'm interested in him for now. He's fine to leave alive a bit longer and see how things progress.


On March 19 2013 15:35 Keirathi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 19 2013 15:31 Mocsta wrote:
On March 19 2013 15:27 Keirathi wrote:
@sciberbia:

I'm not interested in lynching zare right now. For one, I don't know his meta and I don't have time to read it tonight. But for two, he's mostly reading as newbie town to me. I completely disagree with his case on Hopeless, but that's because I am very familiar with Hopeless' play. But otherwise, he brought up some solid points on Hopeless and Wiggles. He seems to be trying to figure things out like a newbie town would.

My biggest problem with his play, actually, is him playing the newbie card. But that's not enough that I'm interested in him for now. He's fine to leave alive a bit longer and see how things progress.

U liked his first post?


As a funny tidbit:
zarepath done some weird shit as newbie town. Last game i played with him, he wrote a fake case on someone he had a town read on.. to gauge reactions.. the fake case was so good. the target (WaveofShadow IIRC pertty much gave up LOL)

No, I didn't "like" his first post. It is full of bad rationale and terrible arguments ("Someone told me that VE always claims town in his opening post, but him doing it this game is scummy anyways"). But that's not exactly the kind of things I expect a newbie scum to say either.

Honestly, it feels like a newbie town trying to have a good reason to start posting, but failing. His thoughts are free-flowing and not pre-constructed. He's not being "clean" with them. Etc/etc.


Now, compare that to what I said in this game-

On January 21 2014 09:14 BarristanTheBold wrote:
Okay fellas, the person we should be voting for today is: zarepath

Why, you ask?

Well, let's take a look at his last game as town: The Game

There are a couple of things we can notice from his filter that are already different from his few posts in this game:

1) The length and analysis of his posts in general. Yea, he had some smaller posts, but for the most part he was in there getting his hands dirty and trying to figure the game out despite not really posting a lot. What I mean is, when he did post, he was contributing meaningful things to the thread. He was question people, making points about a lot of people, etc etc. This game, literally the only thing he has talked about was VE, and even then he's just parroting other people's points into a big post to justify his vote.

Pre-Edit: I will note that I did like this part of his VE case, which gives me a slight pause, but it's not enough, IMO.

Show nested quote +
zarepath wrote:
Note that the entirety of this post is actually justifying why he is no longer voting for Wiley, and not at ALL why he is now voting for bumatlarge.


2) Now, for the kicker. Look at how he votes and pushes his scum reads. Hint: he doesn't. He limps in to every vote with some bit of analysis, and then no pressure whatsoever because he doesn't trust his votes. He bounces around talking about a bunch of different people without ever focusing on a singular read. In short, he doesn't tunnel like...ever.


TL;DR Zarepath made a convenient case parroting other people's points about VE as soon as thread sentiment starting turning towards VE and has done nothing but tunnel him with very little actual analysis or attempt to figure the game out, which is completely the opposite of how zarepath played as town in the past. He be scum, yo.
My dear friend if I have gone pants on head, you have gone socks on ears!!! -ShiaoPi
kushm4sta
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
United States8878 Posts
January 25 2014 01:58 GMT
#1788
artanis if you want i can pm you some mafia tips? because i caught you last several time syou were mafai
OMGUS.net, kush sex blogs every friday night
suki
Profile Joined August 2009
Canada1159 Posts
January 25 2014 02:01 GMT
#1789
I actually enjoyed playing with kush this game for all the hate rayn gave him.

I can see it being infuriating cuz kush just does whatever o_O but having a meta where no one can tell if you're town or scum is actually realllly intriguing to me, even if he has to play a substandard town game to achieve it.
Blazinghand *
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States25558 Posts
January 25 2014 02:40 GMT
#1790
kush had surprisingly decent reads
When you stare into the iCCup, the iCCup stares back.
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kushm4sta
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
United States8878 Posts
January 25 2014 02:41 GMT
#1791
On January 25 2014 11:40 Blazinghand wrote:
kush had surprisingly decent reads


not really. townread zarepath, townread balla, scumread thrawn
pretty shit reads imo
OMGUS.net, kush sex blogs every friday night
bumatlarge
Profile Blog Joined October 2007
United States4567 Posts
January 25 2014 02:56 GMT
#1792
It's just hard to build on your reads when the reasons are so brief. If that green VT/blue VT hadn't happened, you probably would have gotten lynched.
Together but separate, like oatmeal
JonnyLaw
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States3482 Posts
January 25 2014 03:43 GMT
#1793
If it hadn't appeared zarepath would have gotten lynched.

raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
January 25 2014 04:07 GMT
#1794
On January 25 2014 08:34 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 25 2014 08:32 suki wrote:
Hey Artanis, in the scum QT you said this:

Rule #1 of Mafia: Never shoot Kush.
Rule #2 of Mafia: NEVER SHOOT KUSH.

I lol'd :D What's the story behind this?

Even when Kush is right, he rarely gains traction in the town. As scum you want to shoot the people leading the lynches so you can be the one that leads town. Kush isn't a town leader.


Me in obs QT:
While Artanis/bum could be mafia kush will never ever convince anyone to vote for anyone he wants to just because everyone knows he can't possibly have good enough reasons as he does not even read the thread and admits it.

hahaha!
table for two on a tv tray
JonnyLaw
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States3482 Posts
January 25 2014 04:09 GMT
#1795
Kush admits it though.

His play is hilarious from the outside. Someone link a kush scum game?
raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
January 25 2014 04:10 GMT
#1796
On January 25 2014 08:45 marvellosity wrote:
suki was really blatantly town compared to her most recent scumgame. The difference was night and day.

suki was the most obvious town in this game. like i would lynch thrawn (whose claim was sososososo town) over her any day, at least after her post to JonnyLaw, that was so cool.
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
January 25 2014 04:11 GMT
#1797
On January 25 2014 08:59 Keirathi wrote:
To be honest, I didn't read suki's scum game. Yea, everyone said she played brilliantly, but from very early I had her marked as town and I don't think even a masterful scum performance in the past would have persuaded me. Not that I can't be wrong, obviously, but while I didn't agree with everything she said, there was a very obvious "care factor" that I've never seen from scum. Not even once from some of teh best scum on TL.

Oh dude i care. I care so much as scum.
table for two on a tv tray
Balla24
Profile Joined December 2011
2322 Posts
January 25 2014 04:12 GMT
#1798
My scum ratio is retarded. Just saying. So depressing rolling scum 3/5 times.
Artanis[Xp]
Profile Blog Joined December 2005
Netherlands12970 Posts
January 25 2014 04:14 GMT
#1799
On January 25 2014 13:12 Balla24 wrote:
My scum ratio is retarded. Just saying. So depressing rolling scum 3/5 times.

I got you beat with 3/4
raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-01-25 04:15:03
January 25 2014 04:14 GMT
#1800
On January 25 2014 10:02 zarepath wrote:
I need some feedback on being good scum. In every game I played last year, I was VT and really enjoyed it, and just rolling scum was paralyzing for me because the last time I'd been scum was my first game ever in a newbie game, and I was outed on day 2.

Barristan/Rayne particularly, because they put the most pressure on me day 1 -- what should I be doing/not doing as scum? I just couldn't even get myself in the right mindset.

You should interact more with people. What you did was you just sat back and made one case and boom, that's it. Then you sat on it. Like you didn't care about anything that was going on in the game, you just "were there".

Usually just with talking with people and trying to look like you are trying to figure shit out is enough to buy you town credit to not get lynched.
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