EPTNormal Mini Mafia: Episode I - Page 8
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raynpelikoneet
Finland43268 Posts
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VisceraEyes
United States21170 Posts
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thrawn2112
United States6918 Posts
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raynpelikoneet
Finland43268 Posts
If we have named VT's claim now we have 0-4 claims. In case we have 0 claims we learn the setup. If we have 1-3 claims we learn that there are 0-3 fakeclaims which in fact tells us absolutely nothing as you can't confirm anything. If we have 4 claims we learn that we have at least 1 scum in the claimed VT's, one fucking mafia in a group of four people, lol. In every situation mafia learns how many power roles town has, possibly even the whole setup depending on the claim numbers and their roles. Do i need to explain more why the claiming does ABSOLUTELY NOTHING GOOD TO THE TOWN AND ONLY HELPS MAFIA?!?!?!!? VE - Crossfire - thesmurfdude / all those people look terrible. VE + Crossfire for not realising something obvious while agreeing that we should not blindly trust claims smurfdude for not reading the thread or if he has for making a useless post that does not contribute towards anything and asks an useless question that has been explained in thread already. ##unvote ##Vote: Wile E. Coyote | ||
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raynpelikoneet
Finland43268 Posts
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thrawn2112
United States6918 Posts
I need to see him do stuff other than talk about setup because I just realized my kush-instincts don't really apply to anything he's posted. | ||
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DarthPunk
Australia10857 Posts
Kushm4sta (1) - Suki, Suki (1) - Kushm4sta Thrawn (0) - VisceraEyes (1) - JonnyLaw Wile E. Coyote (1) - Rayn Currently Kushm4sta is set to be lynched. There are 44 hours remaining in day one. | ||
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thrawn2112
United States6918 Posts
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suki
Canada1159 Posts
On January 20 2014 09:27 VisceraEyes wrote: It's dumb because of what rayn said - you're literally saying "Anyone who claims blue is immune to the lynch". Literally. What is stopping scum from just claiming blue whenever they're on the block? On January 20 2014 10:01 VisceraEyes wrote: Yeah I'm mostly indifferent to the matter. I can see the argument for it not being needed and it giving scum information, but I think it could help us in the future by 1) eliminating scum's ability to fake-claim it on the block and 2) forcing scum to decide now whether they want to fake-claim the role. On January 20 2014 10:02 VisceraEyes wrote: 2 is pretty potent in my opinion. If you don't believe me, take a look at Kush's plan. He wants to make blues IMMUNE to the lynch. So is kush's plan dumb? Or do you think it could help us in the future and there's a reason that's pretty potent? Or are you just indifferent to the whole matter? On January 20 2014 11:26 VisceraEyes wrote: It does NOT matter if scum figure out the setup before town does...in fact given the nature of this game that is pretty much a given. What DOES matter it's that we not tell them exactly what it is ON DAY ONE BEFORE WE GET ANY INFO OURSELVES, which is very possible if we have boxers claim. Is it worth the risk? I'm starting to think not, but want other opinions. Inconsistent views on kush's plan (he think's it's dumb / sees arguments for it / is mostly indifferent). Wishy-washy. And I just hate the bolded red line in general. ##unvote ##vote VisceraEyes | ||
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suki
Canada1159 Posts
On January 20 2014 11:26 VisceraEyes wrote: It does NOT matter if scum figure out the setup before town does... I don't even.. Please explain how scum doesn't benefit from knowing the setup in a game that's purely based around scarcity of information. | ||
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Wile E. Coyote
Mexico790 Posts
Raynpelikoneet your reasoning for voting me sucks- or advocate a lurker lynch! Now that I know what a boxer is I see no reason for them to claim- AT ALL- until they are up for lynch. WIFOM the scumteam for its night kills. Think like you rolled scum this game, who do you night kill and why? Who do you mislynch? Now make your mislynch choice a boxer. How do you feel? Come now who suggested they claim? | ||
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Wile E. Coyote
Mexico790 Posts
No. I don't care if a half chance is better than 30 % not giving scum that kind of info. If boxers save their claims, they still don't get lynched and bam! Your likelihoods return. | ||
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raynpelikoneet
Finland43268 Posts
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Wile E. Coyote
Mexico790 Posts
On January 20 2014 13:09 raynpelikoneet wrote: Wile E. Coyote did you or did you not read the thread before your first post? I read a few pages a few posts. Why? Scrolling fast main objective was to find out if I'm modkilled which I'm not so all is rosy. | ||
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raynpelikoneet
Finland43268 Posts
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thrawn2112
United States6918 Posts
for not reading, for continually asking questions with answers that can be easily figured out, and for using scum mindset to form opinion on boxer claim | ||
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raynpelikoneet
Finland43268 Posts
...for using scum mindset to form opinion on boxer claim Could you elaborate more on this? I don't get what you mean. | ||
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Wile E. Coyote
Mexico790 Posts
On January 20 2014 13:18 thrawn2112 wrote: I'd lynch coyote for not reading, for continually asking questions with answers that can be easily figured out, and for using scum mindset to form opinion on boxer claim This kind of reasoning kills our towns. The first two are valid points (the very first one meh- I have nothing to fear as town while as scum... Conclusion? Fearlessness is scummy) but the bold is outrageous, to make me vote Thrawn. How else do you make informed opinions on what motivates a player first of all, second, what does "meta" ACTUALLY mean? (Outside your own mind) This is true meta, to think like your opponent to guess what he will do. This is a starcraft website and that was lost? What? Now I will read some time soon I have only been able to peek in now and then. Since I don't know how close to deadline we are I am a boxer. Chezinu. I am not a Chezinu smurf, but I "am Chezinu" | ||
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thrawn2112
United States6918 Posts
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thrawn2112
United States6918 Posts
Now that I know what a boxer is I see no reason for them to claim- AT ALL- until they are up for lynch. WIFOM the scumteam for its night kills. Think like you rolled scum this game, who do you night kill and why? Who do you mislynch? Now make your mislynch choice a boxer. How do you feel? ------ No. I don't care if a half chance is better than 30 % not giving scum that kind of info. If boxers save their claims, they still don't get lynched and bam! Your likelihoods return. He starts off explaining his opinion by saying "Think like you rolled scum." He's already responded to this post and the asnwer was kinda a "believe me or not" type of answer but i do th ink it's odd that he reached his conclusion by "pretending he rolled scum." | ||
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