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bumatlarge
Profile Blog Joined October 2007
United States4567 Posts
January 24 2014 02:09 GMT
#1441
Ah, well, it would eventually come to this. I have a post coming soon though. I would not lynch JLaw at this point. My meta-read on him is wrong.
Together but separate, like oatmeal
JonnyLaw
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States3482 Posts
January 24 2014 02:09 GMT
#1442
Again, I'm going to eat shit for this. But I've said it in every game I've played. I'll vote bum but I'd rather vote suki.

Kush I know you need my case paraphrased what do you want in order to vote suki?

By the way I'm playing league so I'll check this thread every 45 mins or so.
kushm4sta
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
United States8878 Posts
January 24 2014 02:10 GMT
#1443
are you jungling?
OMGUS.net, kush sex blogs every friday night
JonnyLaw
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States3482 Posts
January 24 2014 02:10 GMT
#1444
I do jungle.
kushm4sta
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
United States8878 Posts
January 24 2014 02:11 GMT
#1445
are you scumgling?
OMGUS.net, kush sex blogs every friday night
JonnyLaw
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States3482 Posts
January 24 2014 02:11 GMT
#1446
Nah man, I thought after day 1 I was gonna be solid town read.

When I found out the opposite I got pissed off.
thrawn2112
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States6918 Posts
January 24 2014 02:14 GMT
#1447
actually jl. i read that and have no idea what i read. a bunch of scum team speculation?
"People think they know all these things about other people, and if you ask them why they think they know that, it'd be hard for them to be convincing." ES
kushm4sta
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
United States8878 Posts
January 24 2014 02:14 GMT
#1448
i peered deep into your soul and i believe you, JonnyLaw
OMGUS.net, kush sex blogs every friday night
JonnyLaw
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States3482 Posts
January 24 2014 02:15 GMT
#1449
I'm terrible at this man.

I'll try to summarize after this game.
JonnyLaw
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States3482 Posts
January 24 2014 02:18 GMT
#1450
I have about a minute. Look at this way,

All she does is call ve scum, then bum and balla scum while giving them easy outs to not be scum. Then she puts pressure on them when they're not responding but always gives them outs.

Read the filter.

I'll do better in a minute,.
kushm4sta
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
United States8878 Posts
January 24 2014 02:19 GMT
#1451
so why would she want to give them outs as scum?
OMGUS.net, kush sex blogs every friday night
kushm4sta
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
United States8878 Posts
January 24 2014 02:19 GMT
#1452
if ve and bum are town, why would suki want to give them outs?
OMGUS.net, kush sex blogs every friday night
bumatlarge
Profile Blog Joined October 2007
United States4567 Posts
January 24 2014 02:20 GMT
#1453
I gathered up all the votes so they are easier to read. If we are going to have it influence the lynch today, then we need to set in stone exactly what happened.

This is pretty raw, so I'll spoil it if you need the reference.
+ Show Spoiler +
suki > kush (1)
kush > suki (1)
thrawn > kush (2)
rayn > thrawn (1)
Jlaw > VE (1)
-rayn, rayn > Wile (1)
-thrawn
-suki, suki > VE (2)
VE > Wile (2)
-rayn
rayn
> bum (1)
-VE, VE > bum (2)
-kush, kush > balla (1)
thrawn > kush (1)
bum > VE (3)
-Jlaw
-rayn, rayn > kush (2)
JLaw > balla (2)
-kush
Zare > VE (3)
Art > rayn (1)
kush > bum (2)
-Jlaw, Jlaw > kush (3)
Bar > zar (1)
-suki, suki >zar (2)
-VE, VE > balla (1)
-rayn
Rayn > cross (1)
-rayn, rayn > zar (3)
-VE, VE > bum (2)
-bum
-wile(?), wile > cross (2)
[red]balla > cross (3)
zar > bum (3)
-suki, suki > bum (4)
-thrawn
-JLaw, JLaw > zar (3)
-balla, balla > zar (4)
-art, Art > zar (5)
bum > zar (6)
-suki, suki > zar (7)
-zar, zar > cross (3)
VOTE FRENZY BEGINS
-rayn
-art, art > kush (1)
rayn > kush (2)
-suki
suki > bar (1)
-bum, bum > kush (3)
thrawn > kush (4)
(at this point kush (4) has surpassed Zar in votes.)
-bar
-Jlaw, Jlaw > kush (5)
-suki, suki > kush (6)
-thrawn
DOUBLE TIME
-rayn, rayn > balla (1)
Cross > balla (2)
thrawn > balla (3)
-kush, kush > balla (4)
(Kush (4) vs balla (4))
-Jlaw, jlaw > balla (5)
(Kush (3) vs balla (5))
-suki, suki > balla (6)
bar > balla (7)


JLaw: I was pushing VE, unvoted VE while I was still fighting him an voted [red]balla. Could have stayed on VE when JLaw said he thought I was town, but opted not to. Again, he had mentioned during the kush lynch that he would rather lynch balla, and did switch at a key time. Some of that a scum might do but not all of it. I think we can safely assume JLaw is not scum based on voting.

Bum, Artanis, VE, Zarepath and WileSlam are the only people not voting for balla. Suki and Barristan are arguable because they came on to the vote after one surpassed the other. Kush is debatable as well, since a scum in his position has no reason not to vote his teammate when he is the alternative.

Only VE and Wile did not vote in the time Zar calimed until the lynch. I don't believe Wile was present, and I do believe VE genuinely didn't have time to read the votes based on his post. I would like it if both these players gave their thoughts on the lynch.

I'd encourage everyone to read the filters of the last three to make your own read on them, because I believe we should lynch one of them. There has to be at least one mafia there. I'm fairly certain I've explained my situation, but I can answer any details people want to look into.

Artanis has a really bad track record with the voting. He steered the train off Zarepath and on to kush, which was quite noble, but it would be the right play if they were both mafia. He clearly did not want to lynch balla. And his vote on zarepath was weak as well.

On January 22 2014 04:26 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
##Unvote
Time to 180 on my read on Rayn.
Show nested quote +
On January 22 2014 02:35 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On January 22 2014 02:29 suki wrote:
This game is stupid because there's been so much tunneling, despite there being so much activity. It's like everyone decided 'hey lets just be anti-town and focus on one person and not comment on anything else'. Zarepath (on VE), Balla (on Crossfire), Bumatlarge (VE and maybe rayn), Artanis (rayn), Barristan (Zarepath), Thrawn (kush). Crossfire and WileE are ridiculously quiet as well. That's over half the players in the game.

Yes, exactly this. Me, you and maybe VE are the only one's who actually comment on more than just one or two things (i don't countt kush bvecause he doesn't really explain anything - but he is still probably town - LOOK THRAWN, I HAVE A CONCLUSION!).

Artanis - Balla both weird. Another interesting thing, Balla calls out Crossfire for making a case on me,why not call out Artanis out for voting for me with basically no reasoning?

As i said i see Artanis' posts as townie, i can get the logic. I don't like how he has done pretty much nothing at all.

I still want to lynch zarepath. seriously everything he says contradicts what he did a post before.

When I first pointed out the reason for my suspicion he considered it completely idiotic. The way I've posted about him, no one would blame him for being suspicious of me or even calling for my head. Town sentiment has been against me as well, yet he gets where I'm coming from.

Zare looks scummy as shit. Rayn's already said it all but calling VE town then calling him scum for it later is an obvious tell.
##vote Zarepath
I'm also still interested in Kush. VE's looking better. The way he articulates his thoughts on Bum makes me feel better on him. Rather than mercilessly ragging on him it feels like he's trying to convey his thought process as clearly as possible.

Kush, especially if Zare flips scum is of interest to me. He's never really given much explanation to his votes. Even though that's not customary of Kush in general, he's shown resistance to explaining even when pressed which I don't feel is his townie persona. His suspicions just follow general thread sentiment other than Zarepath, in which he's contrarian without explaining much about it at all. Could lynch.


He has a bit of foresight present here, but Zarepath was at 5 here, which makes his vote a null tell.

Zarepath, after managing to swing the vote away from him with his claim, did not put his vote anywhere useful. His vote on cross is similar to artanis' vote on kush, except a lot less telling. I also think it is highly likely that he is lying. A Blue VT claim is fairly safe for at least one mafia to make, especially one about to die, and mafia might have to challenge a DT later.

I think the possibility of Artanis and Zarepath as the last two scum is good. But I'm the third man in that boat, so sink it anyway.
Together but separate, like oatmeal
bumatlarge
Profile Blog Joined October 2007
United States4567 Posts
January 24 2014 02:22 GMT
#1454
EBWOP: Screwed up the coloring in the vote pattern list.

suki > kush (1)
kush > suki (1)
thrawn > kush (2)
rayn > thrawn (1)
Jlaw > VE (1)
-rayn, rayn > Wile (1)
-thrawn
-suki, suki > VE (2)
VE > Wile (2)
-rayn
rayn
> bum (1)
-VE, VE > bum (2)
-kush, kush > balla (1)
thrawn > kush (1)
bum > VE (3)
-Jlaw
-rayn, rayn > kush (2)
JLaw > balla (2)
-kush
Zare > VE (3)
Art > rayn (1)
kush > bum (2)
-Jlaw, Jlaw > kush (3)
Bar > zar (1)
-suki, suki >zar (2)
-VE, VE > balla (1)
-rayn
Rayn > cross (1)
-rayn, rayn > zar (3)
-VE, VE > bum (2)
-bum
-wile(?), wile > cross (2)
balla > cross (3)
zar > bum (3)
-suki, suki > bum (4)
-thrawn
-JLaw, JLaw > zar (3)
-balla, balla > zar (4)
-art, Art > zar (5)
bum > zar (6)
-suki, suki > zar (7)
-zar, zar > cross (3)
VOTE FRENZY BEGINS
-rayn
-art, art > kush (1)
rayn > kush (2)
-suki
suki > bar (1)
-bum, bum > kush (3)
thrawn > kush (4)
(at this point kush (4) has surpassed Zar in votes.)
-bar
-Jlaw, Jlaw > kush (5)
-suki, suki > kush (6)
-thrawn
DOUBLE TIME
-rayn, rayn > balla (1)
Cross > balla (2)
thrawn > balla (3)
-kush, kush > balla (4)
(Kush (4) vs balla (4))
-Jlaw, jlaw > balla (5)
(Kush (3) vs balla (5))
-suki, suki > balla (6)
bar > balla (7)
Together but separate, like oatmeal
kushm4sta
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
United States8878 Posts
January 24 2014 02:23 GMT
#1455
yeah i dont want to kill bum either. honestly there is not super solid evidence on him.

artanis is a good lynch I guess.
why did everyone townread zarepath all of a sudden?
OMGUS.net, kush sex blogs every friday night
kushm4sta
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
United States8878 Posts
January 24 2014 02:24 GMT
#1456
@bum do you consider suki pretty solid town? do you know she has a reputation for skilled scumplay?
OMGUS.net, kush sex blogs every friday night
bumatlarge
Profile Blog Joined October 2007
United States4567 Posts
January 24 2014 02:26 GMT
#1457
On January 24 2014 11:24 kushm4sta wrote:
@bum do you consider suki pretty solid town? do you know she has a reputation for skilled scumplay?


I honestly have no read on her, I just trusted rayn's read. The votes say she can be scum.
Together but separate, like oatmeal
kushm4sta
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
United States8878 Posts
January 24 2014 02:29 GMT
#1458
and your read on VE is that he's town now?
OMGUS.net, kush sex blogs every friday night
bumatlarge
Profile Blog Joined October 2007
United States4567 Posts
January 24 2014 02:30 GMT
#1459
Here is my list at the moment.

Town
11.) Thrawn
7.) Crossfire99
13.) Kush <3
12.) Johnnylaw

Neutral
2.) BarristanTheBold
8.) VisceraEyes
9.) Wile E. Coyote
4.) Suki, the scum god

Red
5.) Artanis[Xp]
1.) Zarepath
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bumatlarge
Profile Blog Joined October 2007
United States4567 Posts
January 24 2014 02:31 GMT
#1460
On January 24 2014 11:29 kushm4sta wrote:
and your read on VE is that he's town now?


The votes so neutral, but my read on him as of right now is town.
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