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Lynch no one but john bylaw tomorrow.
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You should Ctrl-F Balla while reading Bum's filter.
The LAST thing he says D1 is "I don't want to lynch Balla, I coached him  "
This is weird because
1) He has insight into this player, yet he hasn't chosen to share anything about this player - who is now flipped scum.
2) Balla is mentioned maybe 3 times in the entirety of Bum's filter. Go see how many times I'm mentioned.
3) Bum was not on the Balla wagon
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On January 23 2014 03:26 VisceraEyes wrote:You should Ctrl-F Balla while reading Bum's filter. The LAST thing he says D1 is "I don't want to lynch Balla, I coached him " This is weird because 1) He has insight into this player, yet he hasn't chosen to share anything about this player - who is now flipped scum. 2) Balla is mentioned maybe 3 times in the entirety of Bum's filter. Go see how many times I'm mentioned. 3) Bum was not on the Balla wagon
I don't have ctrl f until I get to a pc.
90% of my mafia activity is from phone.
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On January 23 2014 03:32 Wile E. Coyote wrote:Show nested quote +On January 23 2014 03:26 VisceraEyes wrote:You should Ctrl-F Balla while reading Bum's filter. The LAST thing he says D1 is "I don't want to lynch Balla, I coached him " This is weird because 1) He has insight into this player, yet he hasn't chosen to share anything about this player - who is now flipped scum. 2) Balla is mentioned maybe 3 times in the entirety of Bum's filter. Go see how many times I'm mentioned. 3) Bum was not on the Balla wagon I don't have ctrl f until I get to a pc. 90% of my mafia activity is from phone.
Are you the literal Wile E. Coyote?
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Honestly I choose not to interact with because it would be awkward after coaching him. So there is something to what you are reading into. I don't like to lynch/kill new players early to let them play the game. I don't care about vets or myself going in blind since we will come back eventually. New players can easily be discouraged if they are lynched early.
That's about the only reason you are finding a connection. I'm bumatlarge, you don't think I know how to ineract with my teammates when I'm scum?
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On January 21 2014 02:20 bumatlarge wrote:Sure balla Show nested quote +On January 20 2014 22:42 raynpelikoneet wrote:On January 20 2014 18:29 bumatlarge wrote:On January 20 2014 13:02 suki wrote:On January 20 2014 09:27 VisceraEyes wrote:
It's dumb because of what rayn said - you're literally saying "Anyone who claims blue is immune to the lynch". Literally. What is stopping scum from just claiming blue whenever they're on the block? On January 20 2014 10:01 VisceraEyes wrote:
Yeah I'm mostly indifferent to the matter. I can see the argument for it not being needed and it giving scum information, but I think it could help us in the future by 1) eliminating scum's ability to fake-claim it on the block and 2) forcing scum to decide now whether they want to fake-claim the role. On January 20 2014 10:02 VisceraEyes wrote:
2 is pretty potent in my opinion. If you don't believe me, take a look at Kush's plan. He wants to make blues IMMUNE to the lynch. So is kush's plan dumb? Or do you think it could help us in the future and there's a reason that's pretty potent? Or are you just indifferent to the whole matter? On January 20 2014 11:26 VisceraEyes wrote:
It does NOT matter if scum figure out the setup before town does...in fact given the nature of this game that is pretty much a given. What DOES matter it's that we not tell them exactly what it is ON DAY ONE BEFORE WE GET ANY INFO OURSELVES, which is very possible if we have boxers claim.
Is it worth the risk? I'm starting to think not, but want other opinions. Inconsistent views on kush's plan (he think's it's dumb / sees arguments for it / is mostly indifferent). Wishy-washy. And I just hate the bolded red line in general. ##unvote##vote VisceraEyes The scum hunt is strong with this one. I'd like VE to explain his thought process on the first part, he seems to be changing his mind mid post, then it would make more sense as town. Scum hunting is not strong with that one. The first part is entirely false and that's all he's talking about. In no way is it "entirely false". Suki points out multiple lapses in VE's thought process. You can change your mind, but throwing phrases out like, "that's dumb" or "I'm indifferent" are strong blanket statements to lay down. Clearly VE is either rapidly changing his mind throughout his posts, giving us no indication of where it's going, or he is not thinking his posts through, which he shouldn't be doing as town. I say point out that VE is capable of doing this as town. Show nested quote +On January 20 2014 18:33 bumatlarge wrote:On January 20 2014 17:48 Wile E. Coyote wrote:On January 20 2014 14:25 VisceraEyes wrote:
##Vote Wile E
His little act about not knowing what a boxer is does not really jive with the claim. Add to that the fact that he claimed 5 hours into the game after being very clear about how he feels about boxers claiming, and it all just looks bad. This is a logical reaction. I disagree, the only reason you think it's reasonable is because he is holding back because he probably wrong about you. I'm just working out what I can remember from VE if he posts like this as town. Again implying the claim is true, and now he is not really suspicious of VE in the end. Anytime you use the word "imply", it means you are trying to read into something deeper into the post. I do mean I believed Wile, but it was because I thought VE was scummy, and I was appealing to Wile to look at it from his viewpoint if he were town. Now, if you fail to see that I'm "implying" that I have a scum read on VE here, you wouldn't assume I was suspicious of him in the first place. Rayn did read into it that I thought VE is scum, but rather chooses to view it that I'm tripping over my own reads, which is clearly not what I'm saying, and Rayn knows this. "I'm just working out what I can remember from VE if he posts like this as town" Interpretation is key. I clearly mean "I think VE is scum, and the only thing making me reconsider is if he actually posts like this as town." I have played quite a few games with VE, but they were a while ago. All in all, I think Rayn misconstrued what I said here, an possibly purposefully. Townies do do this with analysis, because they want to be right, especially if an ego is present, and interpretation is where alot of analyses hit speed bumps. I do think Rayn is scum here though.
Hey, I don't care if you're the goddamn Batman. And you DO interact with Balla...and at a really strange time and for a really strange reason. The post seems contrived, and it looks like you deliberately mention Balla for some reason.
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Hey - it's not your fault. You didn't expect ALL THREE posts to be taken completely out of context.
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On January 23 2014 03:39 bumatlarge wrote:
Honestly I choose not to interact with because it would be awkward after coaching him. So there is something to what you are reading into. I don't like to lynch/kill new players early to let them play the game. I don't care about vets or myself going in blind since we will come back eventually. New players can easily be discouraged if they are lynched early.
This is one of the worst reasonings i have ever heard about not interacting with someone...
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On January 23 2014 02:44 VisceraEyes wrote:
His spoilered post to me came at a time when I had JUST voted for Balla remember. I voted Balla, I think Barri did or someone...anyway, a wagon was brewing on Balla, and suddenly Bum comes in with a long spoiler post directed specifically at me? I mean, coincidences happen, but Bum opted to do NOTHING ELSE with the game except perpetuate his fail-tunnel.
This is so obnoxious, I can't believe you are still doing this. I let you slide because of stupid meta reasons, and you still want to bring up baseless arguments. New material (balla interaction) is fine, and reevaluating older things is even better. But rehashing this stuff does make me mad, and I actually don't want to repeat day 1.
Post a case, I'll defend as best I can, and if don't do it well, I get lynched then oh well.
You realize you are using the fact that I spoilered an analysis. You realize that is a considerate thing to do, no?
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On January 23 2014 03:43 VisceraEyes wrote:Show nested quote +On January 21 2014 02:20 bumatlarge wrote:Sure balla On January 20 2014 22:42 raynpelikoneet wrote:On January 20 2014 18:29 bumatlarge wrote:On January 20 2014 13:02 suki wrote:On January 20 2014 09:27 VisceraEyes wrote:
It's dumb because of what rayn said - you're literally saying "Anyone who claims blue is immune to the lynch". Literally. What is stopping scum from just claiming blue whenever they're on the block? On January 20 2014 10:01 VisceraEyes wrote:
Yeah I'm mostly indifferent to the matter. I can see the argument for it not being needed and it giving scum information, but I think it could help us in the future by 1) eliminating scum's ability to fake-claim it on the block and 2) forcing scum to decide now whether they want to fake-claim the role. On January 20 2014 10:02 VisceraEyes wrote:
2 is pretty potent in my opinion. If you don't believe me, take a look at Kush's plan. He wants to make blues IMMUNE to the lynch. So is kush's plan dumb? Or do you think it could help us in the future and there's a reason that's pretty potent? Or are you just indifferent to the whole matter? On January 20 2014 11:26 VisceraEyes wrote:
It does NOT matter if scum figure out the setup before town does...in fact given the nature of this game that is pretty much a given. What DOES matter it's that we not tell them exactly what it is ON DAY ONE BEFORE WE GET ANY INFO OURSELVES, which is very possible if we have boxers claim.
Is it worth the risk? I'm starting to think not, but want other opinions. Inconsistent views on kush's plan (he think's it's dumb / sees arguments for it / is mostly indifferent). Wishy-washy. And I just hate the bolded red line in general. ##unvote##vote VisceraEyes The scum hunt is strong with this one. I'd like VE to explain his thought process on the first part, he seems to be changing his mind mid post, then it would make more sense as town. Scum hunting is not strong with that one. The first part is entirely false and that's all he's talking about. In no way is it "entirely false". Suki points out multiple lapses in VE's thought process. You can change your mind, but throwing phrases out like, "that's dumb" or "I'm indifferent" are strong blanket statements to lay down. Clearly VE is either rapidly changing his mind throughout his posts, giving us no indication of where it's going, or he is not thinking his posts through, which he shouldn't be doing as town. I say point out that VE is capable of doing this as town. On January 20 2014 18:33 bumatlarge wrote:On January 20 2014 17:48 Wile E. Coyote wrote:On January 20 2014 14:25 VisceraEyes wrote:
##Vote Wile E
His little act about not knowing what a boxer is does not really jive with the claim. Add to that the fact that he claimed 5 hours into the game after being very clear about how he feels about boxers claiming, and it all just looks bad. This is a logical reaction. I disagree, the only reason you think it's reasonable is because he is holding back because he probably wrong about you. I'm just working out what I can remember from VE if he posts like this as town. Again implying the claim is true, and now he is not really suspicious of VE in the end. Anytime you use the word "imply", it means you are trying to read into something deeper into the post. I do mean I believed Wile, but it was because I thought VE was scummy, and I was appealing to Wile to look at it from his viewpoint if he were town. Now, if you fail to see that I'm "implying" that I have a scum read on VE here, you wouldn't assume I was suspicious of him in the first place. Rayn did read into it that I thought VE is scum, but rather chooses to view it that I'm tripping over my own reads, which is clearly not what I'm saying, and Rayn knows this. "I'm just working out what I can remember from VE if he posts like this as town" Interpretation is key. I clearly mean "I think VE is scum, and the only thing making me reconsider is if he actually posts like this as town." I have played quite a few games with VE, but they were a while ago. All in all, I think Rayn misconstrued what I said here, an possibly purposefully. Townies do do this with analysis, because they want to be right, especially if an ego is present, and interpretation is where alot of analyses hit speed bumps. I do think Rayn is scum here though. Hey, I don't care if you're the goddamn Batman. And you DO interact with Balla...and at a really strange time and for a really strange reason. The post seems contrived, and it looks like you deliberately mention Balla for some reason.
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On January 23 2014 03:48 raynpelikoneet wrote:Show nested quote +On January 23 2014 03:39 bumatlarge wrote:
Honestly I choose not to interact with because it would be awkward after coaching him. So there is something to what you are reading into. I don't like to lynch/kill new players early to let them play the game. I don't care about vets or myself going in blind since we will come back eventually. New players can easily be discouraged if they are lynched early.
This is one of the worst reasonings i have ever heard about not interacting with someone...
Well that's up I you. Just because you play for yourself spent mean I have to.
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On January 23 2014 03:50 bumatlarge wrote:Show nested quote +On January 23 2014 02:44 VisceraEyes wrote:
His spoilered post to me came at a time when I had JUST voted for Balla remember. I voted Balla, I think Barri did or someone...anyway, a wagon was brewing on Balla, and suddenly Bum comes in with a long spoiler post directed specifically at me? I mean, coincidences happen, but Bum opted to do NOTHING ELSE with the game except perpetuate his fail-tunnel. This is so obnoxious, I can't believe you are still doing this. I let you slide because of stupid meta reasons, and you still want to bring up baseless arguments. New material (balla interaction) is fine, and reevaluating older things is even better. But rehashing this stuff does make me mad, and I actually don't want to repeat day 1. Post a case, I'll defend as best I can, and if don't do it well, I get lynched then oh well. You realize you are using the fact that I spoilered an analysis. You realize that is a considerate thing to do, no?
But it wasn't an analysis, it was a fluffy, rhetoric-ridden pack of nonsense with two questions. Two questions I answered, and you said that I didn't.
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Analysis comes with a conclusion - the whole point of that spoiler was that you HAD no conclusion. You weren't analyzing anything. At best you were looking for more information to COME to a conclusion, BUT you ignored the answers to your questions so it becomes what I say it was - a rhetoric-ridden pack of nonsense. Thank you for spoilering that, it does keep the thread tidy, but it doesn't make you town.
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On January 23 2014 03:43 VisceraEyes wrote:Show nested quote +On January 21 2014 02:20 bumatlarge wrote:Sure balla On January 20 2014 22:42 raynpelikoneet wrote:On January 20 2014 18:29 bumatlarge wrote:On January 20 2014 13:02 suki wrote:On January 20 2014 09:27 VisceraEyes wrote:
It's dumb because of what rayn said - you're literally saying "Anyone who claims blue is immune to the lynch". Literally. What is stopping scum from just claiming blue whenever they're on the block? On January 20 2014 10:01 VisceraEyes wrote:
Yeah I'm mostly indifferent to the matter. I can see the argument for it not being needed and it giving scum information, but I think it could help us in the future by 1) eliminating scum's ability to fake-claim it on the block and 2) forcing scum to decide now whether they want to fake-claim the role. On January 20 2014 10:02 VisceraEyes wrote:
2 is pretty potent in my opinion. If you don't believe me, take a look at Kush's plan. He wants to make blues IMMUNE to the lynch. So is kush's plan dumb? Or do you think it could help us in the future and there's a reason that's pretty potent? Or are you just indifferent to the whole matter? On January 20 2014 11:26 VisceraEyes wrote:
It does NOT matter if scum figure out the setup before town does...in fact given the nature of this game that is pretty much a given. What DOES matter it's that we not tell them exactly what it is ON DAY ONE BEFORE WE GET ANY INFO OURSELVES, which is very possible if we have boxers claim.
Is it worth the risk? I'm starting to think not, but want other opinions. Inconsistent views on kush's plan (he think's it's dumb / sees arguments for it / is mostly indifferent). Wishy-washy. And I just hate the bolded red line in general. ##unvote##vote VisceraEyes The scum hunt is strong with this one. I'd like VE to explain his thought process on the first part, he seems to be changing his mind mid post, then it would make more sense as town. Scum hunting is not strong with that one. The first part is entirely false and that's all he's talking about. In no way is it "entirely false". Suki points out multiple lapses in VE's thought process. You can change your mind, but throwing phrases out like, "that's dumb" or "I'm indifferent" are strong blanket statements to lay down. Clearly VE is either rapidly changing his mind throughout his posts, giving us no indication of where it's going, or he is not thinking his posts through, which he shouldn't be doing as town. I say point out that VE is capable of doing this as town. On January 20 2014 18:33 bumatlarge wrote:On January 20 2014 17:48 Wile E. Coyote wrote:On January 20 2014 14:25 VisceraEyes wrote:
##Vote Wile E
His little act about not knowing what a boxer is does not really jive with the claim. Add to that the fact that he claimed 5 hours into the game after being very clear about how he feels about boxers claiming, and it all just looks bad. This is a logical reaction. I disagree, the only reason you think it's reasonable is because he is holding back because he probably wrong about you. I'm just working out what I can remember from VE if he posts like this as town. Again implying the claim is true, and now he is not really suspicious of VE in the end. Anytime you use the word "imply", it means you are trying to read into something deeper into the post. I do mean I believed Wile, but it was because I thought VE was scummy, and I was appealing to Wile to look at it from his viewpoint if he were town. Now, if you fail to see that I'm "implying" that I have a scum read on VE here, you wouldn't assume I was suspicious of him in the first place. Rayn did read into it that I thought VE is scum, but rather chooses to view it that I'm tripping over my own reads, which is clearly not what I'm saying, and Rayn knows this. "I'm just working out what I can remember from VE if he posts like this as town" Interpretation is key. I clearly mean "I think VE is scum, and the only thing making me reconsider is if he actually posts like this as town." I have played quite a few games with VE, but they were a while ago. All in all, I think Rayn misconstrued what I said here, an possibly purposefully. Townies do do this with analysis, because they want to be right, especially if an ego is present, and interpretation is where alot of analyses hit speed bumps. I do think Rayn is scum here though. Hey, I don't care if you're the goddamn Batman. And you DO interact with Balla...and at a really strange time and for a really strange reason. The post seems contrived, and it looks like you deliberately mention Balla for some reason.
He asked me why I thought Rayn was misconstruing my thoughts. And in a very coach manner I explain. "Seems contrived" elaborate.
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Like, it appears that the interaction was planned - that you said "Hey balla, go ask me about this. It's believable because I'm ur coach lolol"
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On January 23 2014 03:52 bumatlarge wrote:Show nested quote +On January 23 2014 03:48 raynpelikoneet wrote:On January 23 2014 03:39 bumatlarge wrote:
Honestly I choose not to interact with because it would be awkward after coaching him. So there is something to what you are reading into. I don't like to lynch/kill new players early to let them play the game. I don't care about vets or myself going in blind since we will come back eventually. New players can easily be discouraged if they are lynched early.
This is one of the worst reasonings i have ever heard about not interacting with someone... Well that's up I you. Just because you play for yourself spent mean I have to.
So tell me, why are you not interested in interacting with "new players"??
What is the possible town motivation for that? I can somehow understand giving them leeway and not considering them as lynches on D1 or something but not interacting them?? What?
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bumatlarge who do you think is mafia now and why?
I have no idea where you stand on with your suspicions atm.
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On January 23 2014 03:55 VisceraEyes wrote:
Analysis comes with a conclusion - the whole point of that spoiler was that you HAD no conclusion. You weren't analyzing anything. At best you were looking for more information to COME to a conclusion, BUT you ignored the answers to your questions so it becomes what I say it was - a rhetoric-ridden pack of nonsense. Thank you for spoilering that, it does keep the thread tidy, but it doesn't make you town.
No it does not, I assume people can draw the read I'm getting, but I want people to read certain posts again so it's not me forcing it down their throats. You would know this if you ever did anything VE.
I agree it doesn't make me town BUT IT DOESNT MAKE ME MAFIA YOU MOOSE.
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