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Crossfire99
Profile Joined March 2011
United States1529 Posts
January 22 2014 15:58 GMT
#1141
Calm down and stop the personal insults people. This is just a game. No need to make the attacks personal. I'll get to what I think on this stuff after I read what I missed but I noticed this just skimming and had to comment.
Crossfire99
Profile Joined March 2011
United States1529 Posts
January 22 2014 16:13 GMT
#1142
Haha. Would lynch for this. Great find. (You too suki for the original case which I'm not quoting, but read) In the spoiler below are the towniest of townie posts (sarcasm) that Balla posted in that window to make JLaw (lol, but if this offends you let me know and I won't call you it) do a 180.
On January 23 2014 00:02 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 22 2014 03:59 JonnyLaw wrote:
I dunno maybe he's frustrated he got no support after putting a lot of effort into a case. Something you did not do.

Hell if it were up to me I'd lynch balla today but that doesn't seem likely. I've played 3 games with him in the last 2-3 months and this is not how town balla should be playing. So, when something's not working find another scummer to lynch. And I think Rayn did exactly that when he found Zarepath.

Show nested quote +
On January 22 2014 06:47 JonnyLaw wrote:
On January 22 2014 06:45 suki wrote:
I think Balla's play fits my view of him as town so far.

Aside from the activity level I'd agree.

no no no.
This does not make any sense.

+ Show Spoiler +
On January 22 2014 04:06 Balla24 wrote:
yeah yeah jonny we get it and its true i havent been the same Balla, that's gonna change

Why are you so worried this game though? Usually you are all "well Balla is generally active enough that I can read him later".

I'm fine with lynching zarepath. You guys have both done all the work, which makes you more town definitely, but I still need to see what Crossfire and Artanis are doing before I settle 100%

##unvote
##vote zarepath

On January 22 2014 04:25 Balla24 wrote:
lol Aristotle? You mean artanis?

On January 22 2014 04:33 Balla24 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 22 2014 04:26 kushm4sta wrote:
Balla why are you voting zare? There is nothing scummy therre. Yes rayn is town and probably jl too but that doesn't make them righT


I disagree, what JL and rayn are pointing out IS scummy to me. He's contradicting himself and playing exactly like how he says scum players play.

With that said though... with artanis jumping on him 2/3 of my current scum reads are voting on him. That doesn't sit well with me. Still want to see what crossfire does though but i'm already reconsidering.

Why don't you think what rayn and JL are saying about zarepath is scummy kush? It looks scummy to me and clearly them.

On January 22 2014 04:41 Balla24 wrote:
You tunneled Rayn for not playing along with your troll, which is fine. You can have a scum read on him for that if you want. But he's done so much more than just not play along with you, which you didn't really say anything about. Your re-entry is consistent though. I just feel like you can and should have been doing so much more. Which is why I'm underwhelmed by your play so far.

My read on crossfire is what I posted in my case, nothing has changed since he hasn't come back and posted anything. So still scum.

JL is the weaker of the 3 that I don't feel very confident about.

On January 22 2014 04:44 Balla24 wrote:
Also I'm still having trouble understanding why you chose to try to get rayn to counterclaim your scum claim. What happens if he plays along?

Rayn told me it was a joke and wrote it off so I didn't pay it any mind but it turns out you had some real motivation for it so I do want an explanation afterall.

On January 22 2014 04:45 Balla24 wrote:
EBWOP: Why you chose to claim SCUM as opposed to anything else.

On January 22 2014 05:03 Balla24 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 22 2014 04:51 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
On January 22 2014 04:44 Balla24 wrote:
Also I'm still having trouble understanding why you chose to try to get rayn to counterclaim your scum claim. What happens if he plays along?

Rayn told me it was a joke and wrote it off so I didn't pay it any mind but it turns out you had some real motivation for it so I do want an explanation afterall.

It's not about if he plays along. I was near certain he would. It's about how he would approach it that would allow me insight into the mindset with which he starts the game. It was also meant as kickstart for the game so we could go straight into scumhunting rather than talk about setup and policy and all that jazz.


Sure that's reasonable.

But why did you chose to call rayn scum based off of only that and barely mention other things that make him scum. Like you said:

Show nested quote +
On January 21 2014 04:04 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
No I'm not happy, because other than refusing to engage me in conversation you're now also attempting to destroy town atmosphere. I have found scum in you, and you are who I want to lynch.


But you didn't say how he was destroying the town atmosphere...

On January 22 2014 05:18 Balla24 wrote:
@thrawn: I don't really have any experience with Slam at all. So let me ask you this:

You seemed to not consider the fact that he is claimed BoxeR. Does that fact change anything with how he might play. To me he seemed to get much less serious after he claimed BoxeR. Similar to when people become confirmed town they start sucking and not caring as much. Do you see Slam doing that here?


Interesting tidbit is the soft bus of Jonny because he's the 3rd most scummy in Balla's eyes, but he's not really sure. Standard sorta scummy but maybe not spiel that scum do all the time especially this early.
VisceraEyes
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States21170 Posts
January 22 2014 17:30 GMT
#1143
Jonny might very well be scum.

When I initially noticed Balla and voted for him Jonny had just unvoted and voted for Kush, citing "we can't get Jonny lynched anyway, so lynch Kush I think they both scum"

On January 21 2014 07:52 JonnyLaw wrote:
##unvote
##vote kushmasta


I think kush is scum. I think balla is scum. I think kush put a bus vote on balla and got an easy out when I said something. No one else will vote balla. Lynch kush.


So why is it that once people start LOOKING AT balla, suddenly Jonny is more interested in lynching Kush?
On January 22 2014 03:01 JonnyLaw wrote:
Balla I still think you're scum.

You post essentially nothing this game. Then you pop back into the thread and pick a convenient lurker to lynch. You're not making an effort to solve this game.

How is sheeping rayn by saying he's here to move the game forward any type of acceptable play? In the last game you kept commenting oh how you play too nicely and trying to FIND SCUM while I randomly harassed people into talking.

you ask questions, but pose them doubtfully like you're not sure and don't care if they're answered. Your play this game is completely scummy. in 40 hours all you've managed to conclude is that rayn (nine pages of filter) is town and you can sheep him safely while crossfire (one page of filter) looks bad so you can post something without fear of him coming back at you with a defense.


It certainly seems like he still "thinks Balla is scum", so why not vote? Maybe his next vote will be on Balla....

On January 22 2014 03:56 JonnyLaw wrote:
##unvote
[b]##vote zarepath[b]

Yeah, your last post sealed it for me. Your explanation for bum being scummy is that he took his vote off VE when no one would follow his lead. You took your vote off VE when you thought it was an easy thing to do. They're not obviously different at all.


Show nested quote +
On January 22 2014 01:22 zarepath wrote:
I could join a bum scum wagon for his rationale of ending his VE assault, notably because of this:

On January 21 2014 11:46 bumatlarge wrote:
VisceraEyes. Read below. If you do not answer sufficiently, I cannot, as a town-aligned player, ever take my vote off you.


Followed by this:

On January 21 2014 14:18 bumatlarge wrote:
##unvote

You win. I'm not going to pursue this charade if no one else finds it worth while.


If he did not ACTUALLY think he would never take his vote off without VE satisfactorily answering his questions (which is the case, as evidenced by him taking his vote off of him), what was the purpose of stating it in such a dramatic way? I'm thinking for appearance, which is actually backed up by the second quote, where he shares his rationale for dropping the vote, which is purely because of what everyone else thinks.

The ideal townie would pursue his read no matter what, but a non-ideal townie isn't necessarily scum. What shouts scummy to me is the transparent motivation of focusing on how everyone else perceives his arguments, and not on his arguments themselves.


He tried to back up his case for two days and it gained no traction. You abandoned yours after two fucking minutes when VE said lynch me if I'm scum. You literally have one post saying I made a case and that's it. After that it's like total 180 and you jump on the same person VE has his vote on.



Nope...it's on Zarepath. So him saying he's thought Balla was scum like all D1 is pretty meaningless, because when Balla was being discussed, there was never any "Hey yeah! I like that guy for scum too!" or a vote or anything. In fact, when the votes started dropping, Jonny was on the other guy.
if I had to describe his playstyle, it'd be a coked up rabbit with the attention of a goldfish injecting caffeine into himself directly through an IV drip. it's like a reel of random animated shorts where things just blow up randomly
VisceraEyes
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States21170 Posts
January 22 2014 17:36 GMT
#1144
On January 22 2014 23:41 suki wrote:
You know what. Fine.

I'm sorry I tried to play the game. I'm just horrible at mafia and should just go away forever.

Don't do this bbygrl. It's a scum conspiracy to stop you from posting. Fight the power.
if I had to describe his playstyle, it'd be a coked up rabbit with the attention of a goldfish injecting caffeine into himself directly through an IV drip. it's like a reel of random animated shorts where things just blow up randomly
raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43268 Posts
January 22 2014 17:40 GMT
#1145
suki we are having a healthy happy argument.
not a crappy one like i usually have with people.
i am fighting against it again as it ruins games.

<3
table for two on a tv tray
raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43268 Posts
January 22 2014 17:41 GMT
#1146
VE who else than Jonny? Do you believe in "kush is mafia" theory?
table for two on a tv tray
VisceraEyes
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States21170 Posts
January 22 2014 17:43 GMT
#1147
On January 23 2014 02:41 raynpelikoneet wrote:
VE who else than Jonny? Do you believe in "kush is mafia" theory?

I could be convinced maybe, but I'm thinking Bum is more likely.
if I had to describe his playstyle, it'd be a coked up rabbit with the attention of a goldfish injecting caffeine into himself directly through an IV drip. it's like a reel of random animated shorts where things just blow up randomly
VisceraEyes
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States21170 Posts
January 22 2014 17:44 GMT
#1148
His spoilered post to me came at a time when I had JUST voted for Balla remember. I voted Balla, I think Barri did or someone...anyway, a wagon was brewing on Balla, and suddenly Bum comes in with a long spoiler post directed specifically at me? I mean, coincidences happen, but Bum opted to do NOTHING ELSE with the game except perpetuate his fail-tunnel.
if I had to describe his playstyle, it'd be a coked up rabbit with the attention of a goldfish injecting caffeine into himself directly through an IV drip. it's like a reel of random animated shorts where things just blow up randomly
raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43268 Posts
January 22 2014 17:47 GMT
#1149
yeah i have been thinking that too. Balla oddly defended bum and i still think bum is not playing to his town meta at all. he's overly aggressive for no reason, like.. he is angry over something he should not be.

that's why i wanted him to do analysis on voting things, which of course he has not done.
table for two on a tv tray
VisceraEyes
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States21170 Posts
January 22 2014 17:50 GMT
#1150
You and I should both do last-will posts in case we bite it tonight, and the header should probably read

Lynch no one but Bumatlarge tomorrow.

You know, just in case.
if I had to describe his playstyle, it'd be a coked up rabbit with the attention of a goldfish injecting caffeine into himself directly through an IV drip. it's like a reel of random animated shorts where things just blow up randomly
VisceraEyes
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States21170 Posts
January 22 2014 17:51 GMT
#1151
Actually Jonny more likely I think. Bum can wait. Make him watch as we decimate all of his friends. Bring the kids!
if I had to describe his playstyle, it'd be a coked up rabbit with the attention of a goldfish injecting caffeine into himself directly through an IV drip. it's like a reel of random animated shorts where things just blow up randomly
Alakaslam
Profile Blog Joined September 2011
United States17336 Posts
January 22 2014 18:00 GMT
#1152
I'm shadowing too (that other game u kno) trying to lrn, while keeping up here.

Fwiw I am not against a crossfire lynch but I want something better than gut before I push that.
If you think Elon Musk is a Nazi, it is because YOU radicalized him!
Alakaslam
Profile Blog Joined September 2011
United States17336 Posts
January 22 2014 18:01 GMT
#1153
On January 23 2014 02:50 VisceraEyes wrote:
You and I should both do last-will posts in case we bite it tonight, and the header should probably read

Lynch no one but Bumatlarge tomorrow.

You know, just in case.

Wow

3 pages in an instant.

I will read back up to discern why you say this.
If you think Elon Musk is a Nazi, it is because YOU radicalized him!
raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43268 Posts
January 22 2014 18:02 GMT
#1154
I think:
VE, suki, thrawn, zarepath, Crossfire99, Wile E. Coyote and kush are town.
So that leaves not much options..
Artanis is the weakes scumread, but still possible.
Dunno where to put the rest 3 (BTB, bum, JL).
JL scummiest, next BTB/bum equally scummy.

cases inc before night end. hopefully those people say something before the night ends.
table for two on a tv tray
Wile E. Coyote
Profile Joined January 2014
Mexico790 Posts
January 22 2014 18:03 GMT
#1155
HIJOLE sorry for forget smurf.

Hey who is this Alakaslam guy he's not in this game is he?
I am a smurf for TL Mafia! ¡Comé el roadrunner!
suki
Profile Joined August 2009
Canada1159 Posts
January 22 2014 18:04 GMT
#1156
On January 23 2014 02:40 raynpelikoneet wrote:
suki we are having a healthy happy argument.
not a crappy one like i usually have with people.
i am fighting against it again as it ruins games.

<3


No hard feelings I just got upset because I'm really disappointed in my play so far.

I'm out for a while.. probably won't be back until after the deadline.
Wile E. Coyote
Profile Joined January 2014
Mexico790 Posts
January 22 2014 18:08 GMT
#1157
On January 22 2014 23:41 suki wrote:
You know what. Fine.

I'm sorry I tried to play the game. I'm just horrible at mafia and should just go away forever.

Ain't necessary. I EEZ HORIBULE

STEEL MANAGE TO DO STUPH

read dat extractor trick mafia, dat aperture 2p2

I don't have a bamcis towngame. Hope this changes though

I am a smurf for TL Mafia! ¡Comé el roadrunner!
raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43268 Posts
January 22 2014 18:10 GMT
#1158
On January 23 2014 03:04 suki wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 23 2014 02:40 raynpelikoneet wrote:
suki we are having a healthy happy argument.
not a crappy one like i usually have with people.
i am fighting against it again as it ruins games.

<3


No hard feelings I just got upset because I'm really disappointed in my play so far.

I'm out for a while.. probably won't be back until after the deadline.

lol being wrong on D1 is not terrible at all.
But i get where you are coming from since i have the same feeling every time i mislynch.
table for two on a tv tray
Wile E. Coyote
Profile Joined January 2014
Mexico790 Posts
January 22 2014 18:13 GMT
#1159
On January 22 2014 23:56 raynpelikoneet wrote:
No fuck, that's a clear contradiction. JonnyLaw has to be mafia.

You're certain it isn't a change of mind?
I am a smurf for TL Mafia! ¡Comé el roadrunner!
Wile E. Coyote
Profile Joined January 2014
Mexico790 Posts
January 22 2014 18:18 GMT
#1160
Oh I caught up now

Good job pholks

[b]##vote: john bylaw \[b}

Lol phone

Sorry Johnny law if I just type it out (easier) you are now john bylaw
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