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suki
Profile Joined August 2009
Canada1159 Posts
January 22 2014 14:41 GMT
#1121
You know what. Fine.

I'm sorry I tried to play the game. I'm just horrible at mafia and should just go away forever.
raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
January 22 2014 14:42 GMT
#1122
Here:
+ Show Spoiler +
On January 21 2014 23:05 raynpelikoneet wrote:
How does his tone differ from the games he has been mafia in?

On January 21 2014 23:09 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Actually i think Balla's tone is far closer to his scumgame than his town game. As town he tries to get shit done, as scum he is more interested in agreeing/disagreeing with what other people say about other people.

On January 21 2014 23:14 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 21 2014 23:13 suki wrote:
Balla's early game as town is a lot more questioning and posturing and not really scum hunting. In his mafia game he locked onto a target early and stayed on him.

And in this game all he has done is defending me. Ha has not really asked anyone enything, besides some half-arsed crap i don't even know what's that gonna accomplish. Then there is a case on Crossfire, in which, again, he talks more about me than Crossfire..

On January 21 2014 23:19 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Okay, then we have a totally different opinion on Balla's town/scum play or you are lying.

On January 21 2014 23:20 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Also we have a totally differing opinion on what's questioning and posturing..

On January 21 2014 23:26 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Like i just looked at his past games and:
  • town games - 19 and 23 pages of filter, a lot of oneliners, questions many people about his concerns, is clearly trying to find out what people think about what he thinks is important
  • scum game - 7 pages of filter, more big irrelevant posts that are inclined to talk about what X thinks of Y and how it's right/wrong. no real pushing of his own ideas.


If i don't even think about the motivation behind Balla's posts in this game and just look at what he has said it looks exactly like he played mafia and nothing like his town play to me.

This is exactly what JonnyLaw has been saying all game.
Why am i not mafia?
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
January 22 2014 14:45 GMT
#1123
On January 22 2014 23:40 suki wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 22 2014 23:36 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On January 22 2014 23:35 suki wrote:
Wow really?

I don't think JonnyLaw is playing good. I don't understand his aggression on Balla, I don't see how town Jonny could be so damn sure that Balla is scum, that's the entire point.

I'm getting tired of you calling me bad every time I say anything rayn.

In your theory JonnyLaw has only accused Balla and kush on D1. So fuck yes Jonnylaw is playing his best game ever or Jonnylaw is playing his worst game ever.

Which is it?


Why the hell would town Jonny not doubt his reads on Zarepath and Crossfire if his number one scum is also on them?

Okay this is a legit question.
Yes, there is something weird in JonnyLaw. It's the way he expresses his suspicion on Balla.

Like if i was him and people would not listen to my case on someone i think is mafia, instead of sheeping on someone else i would try to convince the people who are actually able to push lynched and who are listened.

I don't understand why he didn't go;
"hey rayn, look, i am pretty sure Balla is mafia for X, Y and Z. Could you look at his filter and especially these things"
instead he does:
"boohoo, noone listens to me, i sheep onto X but Balla still mafia"

And that IS weird. I give you that.
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zarepath
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States1626 Posts
January 22 2014 14:47 GMT
#1124
Why is everyone acting like kush is scum? I don't see the argument where anyone is saying that both Jonny and kush are scum.

One thing about Jonny is that after he was so certain about Balla, thread sentiment turned against me and he switched onto me, with balla giving the assist. It seems odd for him to claim he knew 100% about balla the whole time but was willing to agree with him as long as it was a case against me.

On January 22 2014 03:30 JonnyLaw wrote:
@balla It took me a minute to understand what the hell that post is saying. But yes it is contradicting his case completely. Backwards ass logic. He's scum for being defensive and he's scum for saying fuck it, lynch me if I'm scum.


Then he couches the seemingly inevitable (at that point) zarepath lynch with the following, which looks a lot like he's preparing to say "I knew he couldn't be that bad of a scum, he was just bad townie" or something along those lines:

On January 22 2014 04:39 JonnyLaw wrote:
@barristan because I went back and reread his filter again, and again, and again. Then I went back to where the they fit into the thread and looked at context.

Why do you hate it suki?

Here is my only doubt about the zarepath lynch.

He blatantly does everything which he calls scummy. If he's scum he's clearly not being very careful.

I still think he's scum.


So I guess what I'm saying is that he DIDN'T 100% push Balla all game, but actually agreed with him when thread sentiment was against me, and yet is now proactively taking town credit for the Balla lynch.
"Your efforts you put in will never betray you." - Flash | "If I'm not good enough, I don't wanna win." - Naniwa
raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
January 22 2014 14:49 GMT
#1125
My problem is in the last game he did exactly that with BigDad, he was mafia, and JonnyLaw was town.

He basically made a case on BigDad (it was also quote accurate), never voted for him, never said anything about him any more and went on discussing Dragoon and some other guy who was town too.

Then again, in PYP he had an argument with Mocsta who was his scumbuddy and it looks dangerouly like this game, both just call each other scum for basically no real reason and it's an OMGUS-fest that ends up nowhere (no votes or real case).

Okay, not so sure JonnyLaw is town.
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suki
Profile Joined August 2009
Canada1159 Posts
January 22 2014 14:50 GMT
#1126
On January 22 2014 23:37 bumatlarge wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 22 2014 22:33 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Why do i have to play with these fucking clowns who refuse to play the game?
Someone needs to start banning these idiots who straight out say they will not play.


lol who is this?

Suki: I think johnny is worth noting, but I find it hard to believe he was pushing both his scummates day 1. That has no long term benefits for mafia, which is a real issue when you are scum.


Here is a thought. Kush is not scum. Then Jonny isn't pushing both his scummates, just Balla.
zarepath
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States1626 Posts
January 22 2014 14:50 GMT
#1127
On January 22 2014 23:42 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Here:
+ Show Spoiler +
On January 21 2014 23:05 raynpelikoneet wrote:
How does his tone differ from the games he has been mafia in?

On January 21 2014 23:09 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Actually i think Balla's tone is far closer to his scumgame than his town game. As town he tries to get shit done, as scum he is more interested in agreeing/disagreeing with what other people say about other people.

On January 21 2014 23:14 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 21 2014 23:13 suki wrote:
Balla's early game as town is a lot more questioning and posturing and not really scum hunting. In his mafia game he locked onto a target early and stayed on him.

And in this game all he has done is defending me. Ha has not really asked anyone enything, besides some half-arsed crap i don't even know what's that gonna accomplish. Then there is a case on Crossfire, in which, again, he talks more about me than Crossfire..

On January 21 2014 23:19 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Okay, then we have a totally different opinion on Balla's town/scum play or you are lying.

On January 21 2014 23:20 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Also we have a totally differing opinion on what's questioning and posturing..

On January 21 2014 23:26 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Like i just looked at his past games and:
  • town games - 19 and 23 pages of filter, a lot of oneliners, questions many people about his concerns, is clearly trying to find out what people think about what he thinks is important
  • scum game - 7 pages of filter, more big irrelevant posts that are inclined to talk about what X thinks of Y and how it's right/wrong. no real pushing of his own ideas.


If i don't even think about the motivation behind Balla's posts in this game and just look at what he has said it looks exactly like he played mafia and nothing like his town play to me.

This is exactly what JonnyLaw has been saying all game.
Why am i not mafia?


Well, you didn't go out of your way to claim town credit for it
"Your efforts you put in will never betray you." - Flash | "If I'm not good enough, I don't wanna win." - Naniwa
raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
January 22 2014 14:51 GMT
#1128
zarepath explain how JonnyLaw agree with Balla on you? He voted you before Balla did.
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zarepath
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States1626 Posts
January 22 2014 14:52 GMT
#1129
But after Balla made a point about me, JonnyLaw made a special point of explaining that he understood Balla's point
"Your efforts you put in will never betray you." - Flash | "If I'm not good enough, I don't wanna win." - Naniwa
zarepath
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States1626 Posts
January 22 2014 14:53 GMT
#1130
Like, giving the argument more limelight, as it were.
"Your efforts you put in will never betray you." - Flash | "If I'm not good enough, I don't wanna win." - Naniwa
zarepath
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States1626 Posts
January 22 2014 14:54 GMT
#1131
It's not a reason for him being mafia but it goes along with what suki was saying about his interactions with/about balla being weird
"Your efforts you put in will never betray you." - Flash | "If I'm not good enough, I don't wanna win." - Naniwa
raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
January 22 2014 14:55 GMT
#1132
On January 22 2014 06:43 JonnyLaw wrote:
Yeah, fine who do you want to lynch then? I'm taking a short break to reevaluate and gather my thoughts.

On January 22 2014 06:47 JonnyLaw wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 22 2014 06:45 suki wrote:
I think Balla's play fits my view of him as town so far.



Aside from the activity level I'd agree.

This is really bad. Really bad.
He's had one clear scumread all the game. When something unexpected happens he has no idea what to do and then calls Balla's posting town?!?! But it was scummy before? And after. lol.
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
January 22 2014 14:56 GMT
#1133
No fuck, that's a clear contradiction. JonnyLaw has to be mafia.
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
January 22 2014 14:57 GMT
#1134
There is no way town!JL agrees with Balla's posting fitting his town meta when all he has done in this game is arguing the opposite.
table for two on a tv tray
raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
January 22 2014 15:02 GMT
#1135
On January 22 2014 03:59 JonnyLaw wrote:
I dunno maybe he's frustrated he got no support after putting a lot of effort into a case. Something you did not do.

Hell if it were up to me I'd lynch balla today but that doesn't seem likely. I've played 3 games with him in the last 2-3 months and this is not how town balla should be playing. So, when something's not working find another scummer to lynch. And I think Rayn did exactly that when he found Zarepath.

On January 22 2014 06:47 JonnyLaw wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 22 2014 06:45 suki wrote:
I think Balla's play fits my view of him as town so far.

Aside from the activity level I'd agree.

no no no.
This does not make any sense.
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kushm4sta
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
United States8878 Posts
January 22 2014 15:05 GMT
#1136
Town changes there minds, nothing new about that
OMGUS.net, kush sex blogs every friday night
kushm4sta
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
United States8878 Posts
January 22 2014 15:07 GMT
#1137
Artanis crossfire possiblely bum scumteam, pls shoot me tonight. Do it for the wifom.
OMGUS.net, kush sex blogs every friday night
raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
January 22 2014 15:07 GMT
#1138
On January 23 2014 00:05 kushm4sta wrote:
Town changes there minds, nothing new about that

Only clowns like you do that for no reason.
table for two on a tv tray
kushm4sta
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
United States8878 Posts
January 22 2014 15:09 GMT
#1139
The reason was that balls came back and started doing shit
OMGUS.net, kush sex blogs every friday night
kushm4sta
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
United States8878 Posts
January 22 2014 15:11 GMT
#1140
I mean yeah he could be scum I guess.
OMGUS.net, kush sex blogs every friday night
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