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EBWOP:
On January 29 2014 08:49 Grackaroni wrote:
I'm most confident of Oats being scum out of that group. I might be jumping the gun a little on slam. His posts seemed a lot like his town play to me but him yelling that all the vets are town is much more accurate than I would normally expect from slam.
How about the case on bum? I think it's the strongest one, unless you have something on Oats i don't.
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Bum might be better just because he's the most likely to be the GF out of that group. (GF changes the kp so I can't see hosts just RNGing it off and letting it hit Coag in this setup)
Oat in general just sat back cheer leading for VE/BC all day long while town killed each other. Bullshit reasons for believing BH is scum (and you can see that he doesn't really believe them in the way that town oats normally does just from his IRC with BH.) The only reason VE was actually suspicious of BH was because BH thought VE was scum without telling him why. Oats also does know better than to vote for you right now.
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Bum has also been pretty active though with both Thrawn and with Mocsta
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On January 29 2014 09:18 Grackaroni wrote:
Bum might be better just because he's the most likely to be the GF out of that group. (GF changes the kp so I can't see hosts just RNGing it off and letting it hit Coag in this setup)
Oat in general just sat back cheer leading for VE/BC all day long while town killed each other. Bullshit reasons for believing BH is scum (and you can see that he doesn't really believe them in the way that town oats normally does just from his IRC with BH.) The only reason VE was actually suspicious of BH was because BH thought VE was scum without telling him why. Oats also does know better than to vote for you right now.
Regarding Oats, yeah i agree.
Regading VE's case, yeah i noticed this on N1.
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BH can you give me Oats - you logs?
Or Grack can you send me them if you got them?
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<Blazinghand> hello
<Oatsmaster> so thrawn tells me
<Oatsmaster> he knows you are town
<Oatsmaster> and he has this information taht he doesnt want to give me
<Oatsmaster> and I think you are really really really scummy
<Blazinghand> ok
<Blazinghand> thanks for the heads up
<Oatsmaster> no problem
<Oatsmaster> do you want to change my mind?
<Oatsmaster> ah yes do you think rayn is town?
<Blazinghand> yes but i'm in a very important game of hearthstone
<Blazinghand> basically yeah
<Oatsmaster> psh hearthstone is a turnbased game
<Blazinghand> get on my level
<Blazinghand> im just saying don't expect me to go thread diving
<Blazinghand> but uh, so you think i'm scum
<Blazinghand> what's the reason
<Blazinghand> is it the slam thing
<Oatsmaster> what ve said
<Oatsmaster> basically
<Oatsmaster> yes\
<Blazinghand> ok but slam isn't actually a vet
<Blazinghand> he didn't claim vet to me
<Oatsmaster> thats not the point
<Blazinghand> wat
<Blazinghand> how could that not be the point
<Blazinghand> i didn't do anything to endanger town victory
<Oatsmaster> so alak claimed something else to you?
<Blazinghand> I got a chance to see how VE reacted
<Blazinghand> alak didn't claim shit to me
<Oatsmaster> or alak didnt claim to you at all and he claimed to everyone else
<Oatsmaster> so you are telling me that you managed to hit on the 1 person that wouldnt counterclaim your shit?
<Blazinghand> look i have no idea what alakaslam's role is
<Blazinghand> why does it even matter, alakaslam isn't a vet
<Blazinghand> or at least, i don't think he is
<Oatsmaster> so why didnt alak counterclaim?
<Oatsmaster> like when VE outed it
<Blazinghand> why didn't he counterclaim what
<Blazinghand> wait so your entire case on me
<Blazinghand> is based on
<Oatsmaster> why didnt Alak say "Hey I never Pmed BH my role"
<Blazinghand> you mean why didn't alak say "I never told BH I was a vet"
<Oatsmaster> yes
<Blazinghand> didn't he say that?
<Oatsmaster> no?
<Oatsmaster> he was extremely vague about shit
<Blazinghand> excellent
<Blazinghand> exactly as he should be
<Oatsmaster> so you just wanted VE's intial reaction then?
<Blazinghand> well yeah
<Blazinghand> look dude
<Oatsmaster> because any normal person would go "lol BH I didnt pm you what the fuck"
<Blazinghand> if slam was REALLY the vet
<Blazinghand> if he was really a vet
<Blazinghand> and really claimed vet to me
<Blazinghand> what would his reaction be
<Blazinghand> when he finds out i told VE?
<Blazinghand> it wouldn't be "i'm gonna be ambiguous about this"
<Oatsmaster> it might be
<Blazinghand> rofl
<Blazinghand> whatever man
<Oatsmaster> alak plays in ways I cant even imagive
<Blazinghand> slam still wanted to elect me
<Oatsmaster> slam wants to elect everyone
<Blazinghand> look dude slam didn't claim vet to me
<Blazinghand> ask him if you want
<Oatsmaster> yeah ok
<Oatsmaster> so why did you choose slam
<Blazinghand> because he claimed vet to me
<Blazinghand> HU HUE HUE
<Blazinghand> no seriously becasue of some other stuff he said to me
<Oatsmaster> and why did you not actually scumhunt in thread, push people, run for mayor and generally be super useless the whole day 1
<Oatsmaster> like nothing you did lead to people thinking someone was scum
<Blazinghand> I didn't have great reads
<Blazinghand> all I had was townreads
<Oatsmaster> which is not good
<Blazinghand> so i decided to make a town circle
<Blazinghand> ez
<Blazinghand> in any case i got together some decent reads by the end
<Oatsmaster> ok so reads?
<Blazinghand> and if your critique of me is "blazinghand had a shitty D1, therefore he is scum"
<Blazinghand> then your critique is bad
<Oatsmaster> it is partly that
<Blazinghand> dude
<Oatsmaster> like the shittist day 1
<Oatsmaster> ever
<Blazinghand> no
<Blazinghand> not even CLOSE
<Blazinghand> to the shittiest day 1 ever
<Blazinghand> http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=410972
<Blazinghand> amongst many others
<Blazinghand> i always have shit day 1s
<Oatsmaster> lol ok im not comparing it
<Blazinghand> except for when they're amazing of course
<Blazinghand> dude oats you can't say "i'm not comparing it"
<Blazinghand> after you say "shittiest"
<Blazinghand> which is literally comparing it
<Oatsmaster> it was hyperbole
<Oatsmaster> relax
<Oatsmaster> ok so who are the dudes in this town circle of yours
<Blazinghand> HAH
<Oatsmaster> and what reads did you have
<Blazinghand> nice try
<Blazinghand> scum
<Blazinghand> lynch qp tomorrow imo
<Blazinghand> i'm still not sure why we didn't lynch him today
<Blazinghand> you really want me to give you the list of names in my circle?
<Oatsmaster> lol yeah i dunno why BC lynched someone we didnt even discuss
<Oatsmaster> yes
<Blazinghand> you've done nothing to make me think you're town
<Blazinghand> except I guess think i'm scum
<Oatsmaster> k
<Blazinghand> which is a classic town move
<Blazinghand> so how about instead
<Blazinghand> you tell me what you think of BC
<Oatsmaster> i think he is town
<Oatsmaster> why not just lynch you?
<Oatsmaster> and I dont think both of you are sucm
<Blazinghand> because i put some pressure on him in pmland not to
<Oatsmaster> so yeah
<Oatsmaster> did he say anything about storr?
-From the QT.
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On January 29 2014 09:19 Grackaroni wrote:
Bum has also been pretty active though with both Thrawn and with Mocsta
Yes i know that, but he said nothing to either of them.
Literally nothing. No conclusions on any reads. No explanations on behavior on D1.
Nothing.
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That was way longer than I expected. If I had known I would have spoilered it.
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Oh yeah i have read that.
lol so Oats didn't even have a read on BH for real..
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Blazinghand
United States25551 Posts
On January 29 2014 09:33 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Oh yeah i have read that.
lol so Oats didn't even have a read on BH for real..
yeah his transition didn't seem very real to me
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Blazinghand
United States25551 Posts
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Is there anyone in the game who wants to call Blazinghand mafia?
Especially those people who thought he was mafia on D1?
BH i am gonna make you confirmed town now! <3
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Guys its obviously close to end game if we lynch town.
Lets make the most of the 48hrs and not rush into voting anyone.
Treat this like an instant majority lynch (which it kinda is with the mayor power anyways)
FYI, I am working off:
Town
Pool of players for lynch ordered by scumminess- bumatlarge
- Coagulation
- Skanjab1s
- Oatsmaster
- Balla24
Frankly, Bums play makes a lot of sense as scum.
- After an active start, he has taken a backseat to the game.
- His position on voting in BC as mayor is wishy-washy as heck. THe contradictions are easily time-stamp verified -- and guess what, BC was vouching to lynch at least one confirmed town (and I am working off BH as town) so its a no brainer for Bum to just drop his campaign.
- Bum has provided no substance in his reads and in IRC is hesistant to give details. It was always me having to raise items
In short: he is doing the bare minimum to blend in whilst contributing nothing. SCUM
What I would like to see from bum:
(1) Please give me an update on your top 2 or 3 scum reads with justifications to why.
(2) I would also like to know if you have been in correspondance with Coag.
Coagulation
Potential Pro: - Was reading the thread and decided to swap to Rayn for mayor. Considering BC wanted to lynch town, a scum Coag had no reason to make this play.
Potential Con: - We can make an assumption that Coag swapped BECAUSE he thought Storr/BH may have been town and did not want them lynched. However, is this evident in Coag filter anywhere?
- Other than the Rayn post, has posted nothing of any substance which ties closer to this scum meta than town meta (as town he still tries to troll post; as scum he doesnt post at all)
Potential Association: - His first mayor vote was on Bum.
Some questions to all regarding Coag:
(1) Has anyone shared PM/IRC with Coag? If so, has the game actually tried to be discussed in a way conducive to solving it?
(2) Bum/Coag: Did you two talk together before Coag voted you as mayor?
Lower Priority Reads
Skanjabs
I would like him to detail his scum read on Coag more.
I am concerned not by him not being able to explain his read; but moreso, why he even started considering Coag in the first place.
Oats
I dont know what I want out of you, and I don't know how to approach. Somethings you have done I thought are quite townie (i.e. emotionally invested in the game); than there is stuff like outing the PM circle which I cant comprehend as a town action.
You have played with Skanjab and Coag. What is your read on those 2 players?
Balla24
I know you had an early scum read on me, and started ignoring me.
Without being able to talk to you I have no way to read you; and your activity seems to have dropped recently. Everyone I trust thinks you are town though so I am giving you some benefit of the doubt. This will only hold for so long though without new discussion between us.
Can you please update me with your read on Oats.
Also, what do you make of the VE kill?
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For the record: if I was mayor I would have lynched Oats or Bum day1. so... 
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lol what, Rayn also wanted to lynch town, why wouldnt scum Coag swap? I think BC mayor is worse for scum than Rayn mayor so yeahhhhh thats not a point in his favor.
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For the record: Grack is scummy as fuckkk for not playing the game but instead canvassing for votes by pming everyone.
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On January 26 2014 09:43 bumatlarge wrote:
I haven't talked with my friends, but I think I will be the mayor.
I will build on our foundation of towniess to stone the mafia dead. I have a rock solid mentality and my play is concrete. I will study your meta, may it not morphic our reads. The igneous ones will be chastised and their reads will be obsidious. I will provide lots of graphites to help comprehend our interactions.
For I am an expert of masonry and I pride myself in the craft! Vote Bum for mayor because he is mad confident in his scum hunting now. You can PM me whenever. I'm up for that.
To the red: Who are these "friends"?
To the bold: Why did you not check my meta from the previous game before whispering to BC about my "Bungle" incident.
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On January 29 2014 10:01 Oatsmaster wrote:
For the record: Grack is scummy as fuckkk for not playing the game but instead canvassing for votes by pming everyone.
I PM'd you because I thought you would vote for me because you've been speaking highly of my play since I attacked you in White Flag.
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Where were all these people calling me scum yesterday btw? Why only today?
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Because now we're voting to lynch rather than choosing a mayor?
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