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raynpelikoneet
Finland43270 Posts
On January 14 2014 22:25 marvellosity wrote: Because I already knew the correct answer with absolute certainty It does not matter if you know, if they distract all the other capable townies you lose ~80% of scumhunting potential in the game. | ||
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marvellosity
United Kingdom36161 Posts
rayn calling me mafia for covering it up? It was all so unbelievably ludicrous | ||
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raynpelikoneet
Finland43270 Posts
I strongly disagree. I don't think you even know what happened. | ||
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marvellosity
United Kingdom36161 Posts
On January 14 2014 22:26 raynpelikoneet wrote: It does not matter if you know, if they distract all the other capable townies you lose ~80% of scumhunting potential in the game. You weren't being capable at the time if you thought they could be mafia there's nothing else to say about it | ||
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marvellosity
United Kingdom36161 Posts
It's because it wasn't even worth thinking about. | ||
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raynpelikoneet
Finland43270 Posts
So this discussion is quite useless. | ||
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Hopeless1der
United States5836 Posts
On January 14 2014 22:24 raynpelikoneet wrote: The thing is i know you most likely don't read all the logs and check the timestamps and stuff (afaik you did not even read the ve-wos log). I do.  And that's why those fuckers were anti-town. Like i asked them to give you the logs. Why not just say "okay, we'll do that". Instead BH comes with some bullshit "what if 'PM's to me". Fucking distraction. thats playing to his wincon. He was trying to make sure he didn't out bumatlarge to anyone else. | ||
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marvellosity
United Kingdom36161 Posts
+ Show Spoiler + From: raynpelikoneet [ 12705 posts | Profile | Buddy | Report ] Subject: Re: VERY SRS BSNZ!! Date: 1/14/14 07:40 I'll say this one more time. If there are no logs they are scum. There is no reason there is no logs unless they are fakeclaiming. I don't give a fuck how stupid it sounds because we are talking about Blazinghand here. If There Are No Logs They Are Mafia. I guarantee you that. Original Message From marvellosity: i've asked there is like a 0.01% chance that 3 of a mafia team out themselves like this though. i will be absolutely stunned in a way i havent been close to being stunned in mafia if they are scum Hide nested quote - Original Message From raynpelikoneet: I am calm and i don't understand why can't you just clarify the situation in case i am doing something wrong. 1) They have no logs and there is nothing elzse going on -> they are scum 2) They are not masons and they are something else that confirms them town -> why can't you just say that's the case instead of havin gme have a headache about this and wasting my time. It's clear, if they still claim masons and have no logs they are 100% mafia - there is no other explanation. Original Message From marvellosity: you do that sweetie. when you calm down i will still be here. Original Message From raynpelikoneet: Well i am PMing this to all my townreads. Original Message From marvellosity: this is why i am mayor and you arent Original Message From raynpelikoneet: Are you mafia? If they have no logs they are mafia. It's that simple. Original Message From marvellosity: i'm willing to not agree and simply agree to lynch all 3 claims in lylo if they are all alive. Original Message From raynpelikoneet: I am 100% sure they are fakeclaiming if there are no logs. 100% sure. rayn guarantee. Original Message From marvellosity: fakeclaiming 3 people is insane though. i cant believe it for now Original Message From raynpelikoneet: Hey, this is very important. This is what Hopeless PM'd me: + Show Spoiler + + Show Spoiler + After this we talked in IRC: + Show Spoiler + After this i make a post in thread: [quote] Blazinghand starts PMing me: "Subject: something better" + Show Spoiler + So, seriously. If there are no logs - have those fuckers shot, they are fakeclaiming. They are so so so very much fakeclaiming if there are no logs. Fucking bodyguard fishing. | ||
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Aquanim
Australia2849 Posts
No point in shitting up this one. | ||
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raynpelikoneet
Finland43270 Posts
If i was in BH's situation as mafia, i would have faked convincing logs 100%. I am sure BH is capable of doing something like that as mafia. The bottom line is not that you refused to give the logs to me. It's that there is no reason to start squirming and refuse to give the logs to a confirmed town (marv) in the first place for 3 hours and make somebullshit PM's to me about it. | ||
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marvellosity
United Kingdom36161 Posts
is there anything else going on that's being distracted from? | ||
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Hopeless1der
United States5836 Posts
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thrawn2112
United States6918 Posts
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Hopeless1der
United States5836 Posts
On January 14 2014 22:37 raynpelikoneet wrote: The thing is he refused to give the logs to marv, who already knew bum was mason, for ~3 hours. If i was in BH's situation as mafia, i would have faked convincing logs 100%. I am sure BH is capable of doing something like that as mafia. The bottom line is not that you refused to give the logs to me. It's that there is no reason to start squirming and refuse to give the logs to a confirmed town (marv) in the first place for 3 hours and make somebullshit PM's to me about it. logs that ended up breaking the game. Should I blame you for being so abrasive that BH didn't stop to think about his actions when pming marv? | ||
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thrawn2112
United States6918 Posts
On January 14 2014 22:37 raynpelikoneet wrote: The thing is he refused to give the logs to marv, who already knew bum was mason, for ~3 hours. If i was in BH's situation as mafia, i would have faked convincing logs 100%. I am sure BH is capable of doing something like that as mafia. The bottom line is not that you refused to give the logs to me. It's that there is no reason to start squirming and refuse to give the logs to a confirmed town (marv) in the first place for 3 hours and make somebullshit PM's to me about it. nvm i misread | ||
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raynpelikoneet
Finland43270 Posts
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marvellosity
United Kingdom36161 Posts
It doesn't matter if people are being retarded. It doesn't matter if people are being stupid. It doesn't matter if people are being uncooperative for no reason. Why? Because there is a practically 0% chance that 3 mafia connect themselves and out themselves to the thread/me in such a ludicrous way. NOTHING ELSE AT ALL MATTERS. Everything else is unimportant fluff. People would save themselves time if they just assess likelihoods properly in the first place. You can go "omg if you always think this then maybe mafia try this in the future?!?!?!?" No. Because then you have "confirmed town" masons alive in LYLO and you kill them. Or the cop checks them. Or anything! Mafia will never try this because it's suicide, because after 6 cycles if confirmed town masons are alive something is wrong. But it doesn't happen. | ||
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raynpelikoneet
Finland43270 Posts
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Hopeless1der
United States5836 Posts
On January 14 2014 22:40 raynpelikoneet wrote: It's impossible to explain anything to you Hopeless. Fine, you just don't get it. no rayn, you concocted this conspiracy theory when the simple answer was that we didnt want to paint a target on our backs. We didnt make ourselves a distraction. I tried to use my "confirmed" town status to get townreads from people in an attempt to assist marv choose his bodyguards (not that he needed it) because I thought that was a useful thing to do during the night phase when they were still available to be chosen. You took this action to be purely mafia motivated and proceed to shit up the thread and rage when we don't want to share everything with you. | ||
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raynpelikoneet
Finland43270 Posts
On January 14 2014 22:47 Hopeless1der wrote: no rayn, you concocted this conspiracy theory when the simple answer was that we didnt want to paint a target on our backs. We didnt make ourselves a distraction. I tried to use my "confirmed" town status to get townreads from people in an attempt to assist marv choose his bodyguards (not that he needed it) because I thought that was a useful thing to do during the night phase when they were still available to be chosen. You took this action to be purely mafia motivated and proceed to shit up the thread and rage when we don't want to share everything with you. The problem is there is zero townie reason to ask if i have discussed bodyguards with marv. I have no idea what you were thinking but that was so scummy. I asked about it from 10 players and they all went "yeah, that dude who did it is so scum". | ||
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