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Blazinghand *
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States25550 Posts
January 26 2014 20:22 GMT
#541
you could even argue that a vet is the worst choice since a vet will look town regardless of alignment
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Blazinghand *
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States25550 Posts
January 26 2014 20:24 GMT
#545
On January 27 2014 05:22 Balla24 wrote:
also a rookie might have inherent biases that a vet does not


I swapped the two things you're comparing in this sentence and it still makes sense, meanign that this is a non-sentence
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Blazinghand *
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States25550 Posts
January 26 2014 20:33 GMT
#552
On January 27 2014 05:30 Balla24 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 27 2014 05:24 Blazinghand wrote:
On January 27 2014 05:22 Balla24 wrote:
also a rookie might have inherent biases that a vet does not


I swapped the two things you're comparing in this sentence and it still makes sense, meanign that this is a non-sentence


no, not really, what kind of biases do you think i have? or ggtemplar?


like ok here's what i'm trying to say (sorry i should be more clear). you can't just say "we shouldn't elect a vet because a vet might have biases a rookie doesn't have" without specifying what kind of biases these are. Like, by definition a vet will have different biases than a rookie because a vet has played more games, right? Or maybe a vet knows people better or something. If you can put together a reason why these biases might be bad (for example, a vet might arbitrarily be pro lynching BH since BH is way to sexy) or at least a list of what these biases ARE, then we can have a conversation. otherwise, you're just weighing in without saying anything, a classic active lurker move. Balla24.
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Blazinghand *
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States25550 Posts
January 26 2014 20:37 GMT
#556
On January 27 2014 05:34 StorrZerg wrote:
ggtemplar is a rookie over yourself do you not agree BH?

also BH how likely would you be to lynch a vet day 1? how likely would any vet be to lynch a vet day 1 as a mayor?

even moving off that, everyone who plays this game has bias. Players they like, players they don't care for and would lynch scum or town because they hate their play.


I suspect there are certain vets (VE, Marv, etc) who basically never get lynched D1 because when they are town they are often shot. I'd certainly be hesitant to lynch VE, or even to consider pushing him, even if I thought he was scum, during D1. For example, this game I don't have a townread on VE, which is evidence to me that he's scum (scum VE rarely strikes me as scummy). you wont' see mentioning this or pushing it in thread though, for a number of reasons. mostly ve isn't lynchable today, and I could be wrong and he'll be shot tonight. But also, my read on VE is a gutread. something just seems off to him. I can't just point at something and say "this is where VE is being scum" because if I could, I would just do that. I may have to sit and think a bit leading up to D2 on whether or not he really is scum, and as importantly, whether or not actually pushing him would do anything but get me lynched.
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Blazinghand *
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States25550 Posts
January 26 2014 20:42 GMT
#559
aren't you Wile
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Blazinghand *
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States25550 Posts
January 26 2014 21:56 GMT
#581
Hey mocsta are you around
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Blazinghand *
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States25550 Posts
January 26 2014 23:38 GMT
#599
Are there qurstiobs?
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Blazinghand *
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States25550 Posts
January 27 2014 00:55 GMT
#614
BTW i understand that my effort so far has been sub-optimal, but i've been eating dinner. i'm just about to sit down to dinner but afterwards i'll come rock your worlds (not sexually)
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Blazinghand *
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States25550 Posts
January 27 2014 05:12 GMT
#642
yeah VE probably scum
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Blazinghand *
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States25550 Posts
January 27 2014 06:11 GMT
#646
mocsta town but i don't like him because of our pmland interactions. Grack seems to trust him so i'm down with that. not sure on balla, ve scum. note ve's reaction to mocsta's case. not interested in engaging. just wants to use his VE-ness to brush it under the rug. scum mocsta wouldn't go after VE because scum doesn't want to go after VE.

if I were mayor I'd lynch VE.

still deciding who should be mayor.
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Blazinghand *
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States25550 Posts
January 27 2014 06:24 GMT
#650
i'm just making a point that VE is scum and mocsta is town is the only explanation that makes sense
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Blazinghand *
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States25550 Posts
January 27 2014 06:26 GMT
#652
On January 27 2014 15:25 Oatsmaster wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 27 2014 15:24 Blazinghand wrote:
i'm just making a point that VE is scum and mocsta is town is the only explanation that makes sense

And both of them town doesnt make sense?

well duh, look at VE's reaction to mocsta's case. do you think town VE would just brush it off? no, town VE knows mocsta is wrong. Town VE would slap that shit out of the sky because he knows, deep down, that he's right and mocsta is wrong. VE is subconsciously less willing to engage with mocsta's case because he knows it's right
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Blazinghand *
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States25550 Posts
January 27 2014 06:29 GMT
#655
On January 27 2014 15:28 Oatsmaster wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 27 2014 15:26 Blazinghand wrote:
On January 27 2014 15:25 Oatsmaster wrote:
On January 27 2014 15:24 Blazinghand wrote:
i'm just making a point that VE is scum and mocsta is town is the only explanation that makes sense

And both of them town doesnt make sense?

well duh, look at VE's reaction to mocsta's case. do you think town VE would just brush it off? no, town VE knows mocsta is wrong. Town VE would slap that shit out of the sky because he knows, deep down, that he's right and mocsta is wrong. VE is subconsciously less willing to engage with mocsta's case because he knows it's right

Town VE already knows that mocsta is under huge pressure. Show me meta about this pls.


it's not meta dude it's basic scumtells, applies to everyone. and town ANYONE seeing someone under pressure try to engage them would RESPOND unless he's afraid because he really knows it's a legit attack
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Blazinghand *
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States25550 Posts
January 27 2014 06:29 GMT
#656
On January 27 2014 15:29 Oatsmaster wrote:
Actually if VE is town, I would expect him to react differently because mocsta's case can be so easily defended and decontrsucted.


hey look I changed "scum" to "town" in your sentence and it still makes perfect sense.
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Blazinghand *
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States25550 Posts
January 27 2014 06:32 GMT
#659
On January 27 2014 15:31 Oatsmaster wrote:
Wouldnt someone be more likely to defend themselves as scum because they dont want people to think that they are dodging?


People in general defend themselves. The question is, what mindset motivates you when you see a case from a pressured player on you to say "well, not even gonna respond to that. no need to engage the thread or move things along"?

imo this mindset is scum. VE is scum.
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Blazinghand *
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States25550 Posts
January 27 2014 06:33 GMT
#661
On January 27 2014 15:32 Oatsmaster wrote:
How many games of mafia have you played BH?

10+
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Blazinghand *
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States25550 Posts
January 27 2014 06:33 GMT
#662
30+ if you count games where I rolled town. AND NO THAT WASNT A SCUMSLIP
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Blazinghand *
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States25550 Posts
January 27 2014 06:42 GMT
#665
i'm here! what's new oats
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Blazinghand *
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States25550 Posts
January 27 2014 06:48 GMT
#669
People aren't going to want to elect me after the fiasco in last game. I'd love being mayor but realistically it's not happening. I just need to convince whoever gets elected to lynch who I want to lynch, which should be signif easier than getting elected myself
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Blazinghand *
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States25550 Posts
January 27 2014 06:57 GMT
#677
On January 27 2014 15:49 Oatsmaster wrote:
What. TL mafia members dont hold grudges.


it's not grudges, it's just perception. The game after a game where I catch scum, everyone's all on my dick, and this game is the opposite
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