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Hopeless1der
United States5836 Posts
On January 18 2014 08:33 thrawn2112 wrote: more pretty sure hopeless is more of an asshole as scum ##vote:hopeless1der False, but unfortunately I lack the resources to dispute you before id be lynched. | ||
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Sn0_Man
Tebellong44238 Posts
Gracks actually kinda playing though. Maybe. Actually JK his long post was just townreads and then parroting thrawn's misgivings about koshi. How do we un-consolidate half an hour pre lynch? SFLJSDL:KJHSDTG | ||
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raynpelikoneet
Finland43270 Posts
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Hopeless1der
United States5836 Posts
##unvote ##vote grackaroni | ||
Mig
United States4714 Posts
Unvote ## ##Vote Grack | ||
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Mig
United States4714 Posts
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Toadesstern
Germany16350 Posts
##unvote ##vote Grack | ||
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raynpelikoneet
Finland43270 Posts
Mig have you played with mafia!Cephiro? | ||
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thrawn2112
United States6918 Posts
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Cephiro
Finland1934 Posts
On January 17 2014 03:46 Mig wrote: Sno is likely mafia. 1) I had the same thoughts as skan when reading sno's response to kush's question about why he seems so happy. Most townies just ignore it or dismiss it, instead of providing a real answer (which felt kind of like bs btw). 2) These posts he makes back to back In the initial post he very weakly accuses skan of possibly being mafia. Also, this is probably nothing but the stupid :/ face there doesn't really fit for a townie mindset in my eyes. If you think someone is doing something scummy why use the wishy washy face. The very next post he then implies that skan is town when he says that skan actually thinks he is scum. This doesn't really make sense unless he is mafia and already knows skan is town. #vote Sno In this post Mig makes 2 points against Sn0 which are both quite ridiculous in my opinion. Why make such a big deal about a smilie? People like to use them sometimes. Like this >_>. It's an emoticon, no more. Any could be used as either alignment, doesn't say a thing. He's taking one useless sentence and making a bigger deal of it than need be, when there is a shitton of useless sentences in the game which could be said the same of. The second point just isn't valid. Why would it not make sense from town perspective? I can very well believe someone to be town even if they have a scumread on me. The word "instead" as I read it in this sentence is meant in the following sense opinion. 1) Sno originally thought skan was just fishing for responses and pushing the thread forward. ---> 1b) This is not alignment-indicative, although I read it as a "pro-town"-opinion from Sn0. 2) Sn0 however realizes that skan actually believes himself to be mafia, instead of just faking a red read on him to fish for reactions. ---> 2b) Sn0 seems to be unsure what to think of this ---> 2c) The second posts in Mig's case in my opinion is not showing a swing in either way about Sn0's thoughts about skan. On January 17 2014 04:02 Mig wrote: Also, not even sure why you mentioned this. A lot of the things you say feel fake to me. Saying you were "hoping for a productive day1". We arent even 24 hours in yet. Just feels like bs. He further pressures Sn0 with small points like these. I think pressure is a fine thing, but doing it selectively for bad reasons is not productive. Sure, it's a fluffy sentence, but can you really claim to be able to tell if it's faked or not? As mentioned before, there are tons of sentences like this from several other players as well, whom could just as well be faking them. At this point I don't like how concentrated Mig is about Sn0 being mafia with so little reasoning. On January 17 2014 04:17 Mig wrote: This post looks better but a bit concerning you only show the confidence after I called you out on it. Just looking at your responses to pressure from witchcraft, before this post you seemed so much weaker/hesitant when called out. And in one post Mig says Sn0 looks much better for seeming much more confident. Really? After that post? How does saying "cases on me are bullshit" show confidence? I very much dislike how he has emphasized that Sn0 seemed much weaker/hesitant compared to this one "confident" post. My opinion? Hardly a change. What motive would Mig have for saying this? I'm having a hard time believing he truly means these words. On January 17 2014 04:56 Mig wrote: I mentioned grack already. The longer he sits back while the focus is elsewhere the worse he looks. Not a fan of cephiro either, his vt claim while doing nothing is bad Kush is tricky and I am pretty unsure of him. Jumping into the thread and immediately attacking people seems pretty strange for him, but I know in the past hes said he has a hard time as mafia finding things to attack and he generally just makes town reads. Meh, I would certainly watch him. As you may remember, Mig is not a fan of wishywashyness. His paragaph about Kush? Pretty much exactly the definition of wishywashy. There are players who say they have certain sentences that they get tells about. For me, "I would certainly watch X" is one of those. Unless you really intend to follow up yourself, why would you say that? If you believe that player has a chance of being mafia, that means: 1) You are making the mafia player more cautions in his/her play by telling them they should be followed upon closely. ---> 1b) This may lead into the mafia player making less mistakes than they would have. 2) Why would you not do something about it instead of watching? I'm fairly sure you gain more information by pressuring someone and forcing them to reply, rather than waiting and seeing what they want to post. On January 17 2014 05:14 Mig wrote: I would say the case I presented against you had a lot more depth than anything you have posted. For one thing, I actually did some research into a past game. You happened to be the most popular target so what? Do you believe that is why I am posting against you? Or do you think I genuinely believe what I am posting? I am actually trying to find scum here instead of saying I would lynch grack because he's a lurker. For other people what do you want. It is day1, sorry I don't have the entire scum team figured out. I am still open to discussing people which is why I am still talking to you and rayn/hopleess/etc First sentence. Just because you make a post less bad than a horrible one doesn't mean you're doing well. In my opinion Mig's case can by no means be claimed to be well-made or good by any measurements. The sentence I bolded strikes weird to me. It makes it sound like he doesn't believe in what he posts. Why would that be the case for a town player trying to scumhunt? Or even if a town player was unsure of themself, there is no reason to bring it up while pressuring someone as it enables for it to be brushed aside much easier. Would you follow someone that is unsure about what they are doing? I wouldn't. He claims he is actually trying to find scum, yet it doesn't look like it to me. Certainly, no-one can be expected to find the scumteam on D1. I find it interesting that he has to mention how he is open to discussing people and explaining that it's why he is still talking with other players. Is that not a given? Or does someone really think they can nail the game without taking part in discussion? After his earlier pressure, he never takes up Sn0 again. Completely forgotten. Why is this? I would like to hear more. ##vote: Mig | ||
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Koshi
Belgium38799 Posts
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Toadesstern
Germany16350 Posts
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Mig
United States4714 Posts
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Toadesstern
Germany16350 Posts
On January 18 2014 08:40 Toadesstern wrote: you do realize it's 20 minutes prior to deadline? that was @Ceph's wall of text | ||
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thrawn2112
United States6918 Posts
On January 18 2014 08:40 Toadesstern wrote: you do realize it's 20 minutes prior to deadline? why di you suddenly go quiet once the thread went into chaos | ||
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raynpelikoneet
Finland43270 Posts
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Sn0_Man
Tebellong44238 Posts
##Unvote ##Vote: Grackaroni | ||
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Grackaroni
United States9856 Posts
There is nothing different about thug life. Koshi doesnt givea damn about the lynch being random he cares about getting mislynched. In thug life Koshi is town and he calls me scum. He is on the verge of death and he throws a fit. In here he thinks I'm scum and he is getting lynched. He says, "wauw am I getting lynched? grack totes scum" | ||
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raynpelikoneet
Finland43270 Posts
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Cephiro
Finland1934 Posts
I'd like to see Mig lynched, which is why I posted my thoughts. Do you somehow consider that as a bad thing? Would you consider it better if I just went all "Sure I'll sheep since I haven't done anything useful today" and voted for Grack or someone else? I have no need to try and derail the lynch or anything, I am merely sharing the other players who would be the best target in my opinion. | ||
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