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On January 18 2014 04:37 Hopeless1der wrote:
I told Toad there was no basis for his (meta?) read on sn0 since sn0 has never rolled scum. Using the reasoning that wishywashy statements come from scum doesn't apply to sn0 since in every town game he's played, he has similar statements. He pulls one post from WC2 when at MYLO (LYLO?) sn0 finally has to play (so did I if you remember correctly, it was my case sn0 was responding to) after days of information. There is again, no reasonable comparison to this game the way Toad has framed his case.
He goes on to say how I'm the only other player thats 'yellow/orange' on his sheet when we have Grack doing nothing, cephiro being afk. Toad is opportunistically trying to bandwagon on me and doesnt give a shit about pushing anyone because both me and sn0 are mislynch targets, and I was leading the votes.
skanjab is a weaker read but basically his case on sn0 was garbage and his followup explaining the way he makes his cases is using scummy and selective reasoning.
and I told you that I disagree, that I randomly picked anything that stood out, I even said it's because it had red letters in it and shouldn't be thought much off and that I still have to see a single post where he posts like that in a game. So far noone has provided any quotes like that.
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Have I missed where anyone directly questioned Grack about his doctor claim? His filter tells me nothing in this regard.
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On January 18 2014 04:39 Sn0_Man wrote:
Well, I still have no intention of lynching toad today, but that honestly sounds a lot more like you want in-thread town-cred than post-game brag points.
implying I am correct? I don't even mind if you lynch me for being correct and being a dick about it.
If I'm not correct there's no in-thread town-cred to be had lol
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On January 18 2014 04:41 Hopeless1der wrote:
Have I missed where anyone directly questioned Grack about his doctor claim? His filter tells me nothing in this regard.
Dunno, I asked about it in thread and all I got was Oats saying "Its completely non-alignment indicative". Afaik it hasn't really been mentioned otherwise.
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On January 18 2014 04:41 Hopeless1der wrote:
Have I missed where anyone directly questioned Grack about his doctor claim? His filter tells me nothing in this regard.
it was the most obvious lie ever and even if it's not why would you want to ask him about it? "HEY ARE YOU REALLY A DOC? - YES I AM" when mafia probably doesn't give a crap about it either, like noone else?
If there's even a 1% chance of that not being a lie you ignore it. If it's a 0% chance you ignore it as well. Seems pretty straight forward to me.
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On January 18 2014 04:41 Toadesstern wrote:Show nested quote +On January 18 2014 04:39 Sn0_Man wrote:
Well, I still have no intention of lynching toad today, but that honestly sounds a lot more like you want in-thread town-cred than post-game brag points. implying I am correct? I don't even mind if you lynch me for being correct and being a dick about it. If I'm not correct there's no in-thread town-cred to be had lol
As in, "Only a townie would need post-game brag points so I should post this since scum would never do that" type shit.
I still don't get you Toad. And it feels a lot less like "better town play" and a lot more like "just scum play".
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I honestly don't think anyone is stupid enough to consider that alignment indicative.
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On January 18 2014 04:43 Toadesstern wrote:Show nested quote +On January 18 2014 04:41 Hopeless1der wrote:
Have I missed where anyone directly questioned Grack about his doctor claim? His filter tells me nothing in this regard. it was the most obvious lie ever and even if it's not why would you want to ask him about it? "HEY ARE YOU REALLY A DOC? - YES I AM" when mafia probably doesn't give a crap about it either, like noone else? If there's even a 1% chance of that not being a lie you ignore it. If it's a 0% chance you ignore it as well. Seems pretty straight forward to me.
we're planning to lynch him, you're surprisingly nonchalant about ignoring a claimed doc's motives for claiming doc.
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Link to hopeless last scum game anyone?? Plz
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On January 18 2014 04:51 Hopeless1der wrote:Show nested quote +On January 18 2014 04:43 Toadesstern wrote:On January 18 2014 04:41 Hopeless1der wrote:
Have I missed where anyone directly questioned Grack about his doctor claim? His filter tells me nothing in this regard. it was the most obvious lie ever and even if it's not why would you want to ask him about it? "HEY ARE YOU REALLY A DOC? - YES I AM" when mafia probably doesn't give a crap about it either, like noone else? If there's even a 1% chance of that not being a lie you ignore it. If it's a 0% chance you ignore it as well. Seems pretty straight forward to me. we're planning to lynch him, you're surprisingly nonchalant about ignoring a claimed doc's motives for claiming doc.
like I said I don't consider it a possibility to be the truth.
He'd be in this thread pointing it out himself if it was, kicking and screaming "don't lynch the doc!!" because he knows himself that noone took him serious.
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By page 40 I would be fine with lynching kush, thrawn, or Mig.
Break.
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On January 18 2014 04:53 Toadesstern wrote:Show nested quote +On January 18 2014 04:51 Hopeless1der wrote:On January 18 2014 04:43 Toadesstern wrote:On January 18 2014 04:41 Hopeless1der wrote:
Have I missed where anyone directly questioned Grack about his doctor claim? His filter tells me nothing in this regard. it was the most obvious lie ever and even if it's not why would you want to ask him about it? "HEY ARE YOU REALLY A DOC? - YES I AM" when mafia probably doesn't give a crap about it either, like noone else? If there's even a 1% chance of that not being a lie you ignore it. If it's a 0% chance you ignore it as well. Seems pretty straight forward to me. we're planning to lynch him, you're surprisingly nonchalant about ignoring a claimed doc's motives for claiming doc. like I said I don't consider it a possibility to be the truth. He'd be in this thread pointing it out himself if it was, kicking and screaming "don't lynch the doc!!" because he knows himself that noone took him serious.
and this is a town mentality to you?
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On January 18 2014 04:58 Hopeless1der wrote:Show nested quote +On January 18 2014 04:53 Toadesstern wrote:On January 18 2014 04:51 Hopeless1der wrote:On January 18 2014 04:43 Toadesstern wrote:On January 18 2014 04:41 Hopeless1der wrote:
Have I missed where anyone directly questioned Grack about his doctor claim? His filter tells me nothing in this regard. it was the most obvious lie ever and even if it's not why would you want to ask him about it? "HEY ARE YOU REALLY A DOC? - YES I AM" when mafia probably doesn't give a crap about it either, like noone else? If there's even a 1% chance of that not being a lie you ignore it. If it's a 0% chance you ignore it as well. Seems pretty straight forward to me. we're planning to lynch him, you're surprisingly nonchalant about ignoring a claimed doc's motives for claiming doc. like I said I don't consider it a possibility to be the truth. He'd be in this thread pointing it out himself if it was, kicking and screaming "don't lynch the doc!!" because he knows himself that noone took him serious. and this is a town mentality to you?
not bringing it up until he does? sure, what good does it us to talk about it if not even he considers it important? It's only derailing.
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i mean you dont think fakeclaiming doc and being utterly useless, dodging discussions and ignoring pointed questions is scummy?
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On January 18 2014 05:02 Hopeless1der wrote:
i mean you dont think fakeclaiming doc and being utterly useless, dodging discussions and ignoring pointed questions is scummy?
the way he claimed it? no I don't.
About the rest, idk I don't know him and you guys seem to agree that trolling (in general) isn't alignment indicative for him so I think that's at least an issue I should ignore, if not everyone. It's like trying to talk about Kenpachi, there's no point about it. You most likely have your opinion one way or the other but it's a huge clusterfuck and noone agrees with anyone and all those selfclaimed Kenpachi-specialists really don't have a clue how to read him.
Rayn seems to think he's usually useful when being town (later on?) but it's not later on, no I don't see a point in talking about that unless you can point out any differences to what it's usually. If you are going to, make it so that a 10 year old could understand it, I'm doing vocabs right now and watching something, so I'm slightly distracted.
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On January 18 2014 04:37 Hopeless1der wrote:
I told Toad there was no basis for his (meta?) read on sn0 since sn0 has never rolled scum. Using the reasoning that wishywashy statements come from scum doesn't apply to sn0 since in every town game he's played, he has similar statements. He pulls one post from WC2 when at MYLO (LYLO?) sn0 finally has to play (so did I if you remember correctly, it was my case sn0 was responding to) after days of information. There is again, no reasonable comparison to this game the way Toad has framed his case.
He goes on to say how I'm the only other player thats 'yellow/orange' on his sheet when we have Grack doing nothing, cephiro being afk. Toad is opportunistically trying to bandwagon on me and doesnt give a shit about pushing anyone because both me and sn0 are mislynch targets, and I was leading the votes.
skanjab is a weaker read but basically his case on sn0 was garbage and his followup explaining the way he makes his cases is using scummy and selective reasoning.
Could you elaborate on the "scummy and selective reasoning" thing, please?
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what the fuck Toad....Is his behavior scummy or not? You didnt give a shit what sn0's history was when you said you caught so many scum based on the behavior he was exhibiting, now with Grack that history stuff matters?
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On January 18 2014 05:12 Skanjab1s wrote:Show nested quote +On January 18 2014 04:37 Hopeless1der wrote:
I told Toad there was no basis for his (meta?) read on sn0 since sn0 has never rolled scum. Using the reasoning that wishywashy statements come from scum doesn't apply to sn0 since in every town game he's played, he has similar statements. He pulls one post from WC2 when at MYLO (LYLO?) sn0 finally has to play (so did I if you remember correctly, it was my case sn0 was responding to) after days of information. There is again, no reasonable comparison to this game the way Toad has framed his case.
He goes on to say how I'm the only other player thats 'yellow/orange' on his sheet when we have Grack doing nothing, cephiro being afk. Toad is opportunistically trying to bandwagon on me and doesnt give a shit about pushing anyone because both me and sn0 are mislynch targets, and I was leading the votes.
skanjab is a weaker read but basically his case on sn0 was garbage and his followup explaining the way he makes his cases is using scummy and selective reasoning. Could you elaborate on the "scummy and selective reasoning" thing, please?
"Look at these posts I quoted. They are scummy for Reason A. Therefore the player is scummy for Reason A.
NO!! Do not read those other posts that disagree with Reason A. They aren't important. Read the posts I quoted and only those posts. Those are the scummy ones. Read those. No guys stop looking at the entire filter. You only need to look at what I showed you. I clearly explained why the posts I quoted are scummy. That means that player is scummy. You don't need to know anything else."
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On January 18 2014 05:12 Hopeless1der wrote:
what the fuck Toad....Is his behavior scummy or not? You didnt give a shit what sn0's history was when you said you caught so many scum based on the behavior he was exhibiting, now with Grack that history stuff matters?
difference being:
I'm accusing sn0 of something you can't controle and do unconsciously whenever you're typing and so far I STILL haven't seen a single quote that looks like that from you guys who think otherwise but I already said that about 5 times and it's not going to happen anyways...
You're accusing Grack of something that is incredibly basic and easy to fake, both as mafia and as townie, just look at Kenpachi and BH. It's not something you do unconciously whenever you tend to roll a certain alignment, so you have to check if it's something he does in general.
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