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1 koshi gets mafia depression as town whenever something bad for town happens 2 koshi is depressed 3 therefore koshi is scum? even if he could show me how koshi is depressed the argument still doesn't work. I backed off grack to see what he would do while not under pressure, and the answer's nothing | ||
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this game is giving me so many WC2 flashbacks I may as well be on acid. Sn0 isn't scum. if you want to make the attitude argument then you need to do the meta work because I think your claim is false. and if you're too lazy to do the meta work then at least stfu about him | ||
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On January 17 2014 10:27 kushm4sta wrote: How I realized it though is because he is acting totally differently from his town games. this is what I don't get | ||
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On January 17 2014 10:52 kushm4sta wrote: @thrawn in wc2 he attacks people in almost all his posts Actually he didn't do much at all in D1 besides get into a brief fight with OO and he didn't really push that read afterwards. Also, I think looking at his D1 only from WC2 is more helpful based on how he desribes his own D1 play. So no, I still don't really see what you're getting at. I mean there's stuff like this: On November 05 2013 03:39 Sn0_Man wrote: Yo I'm supposed to be a brainwashed religious acolyte. Original and thought provoking not really my thing hue On November 05 2013 03:50 Sn0_Man wrote: If I could substantiate them there'd be substantiations in thread yo. Besides not so many reads just stuff. You weren't (aren't? unsure) playing how I'm used to but I can dismiss that if I need to. Was about the best I had. My shots at onegu are strictly based on teh player i have no idea his current alignment. Massive walls of text full of dumb videos is either rayn territory or scum usually so I'm flaming gumshoe. MEANWHILE I have no actual idea who is scum so I'm making sure people don't decide to lurker lynch me  On November 05 2013 03:58 Sn0_Man wrote: Well I don't have a nice blue role this game to claim and be conftown but w/e. This is more or less my day 1 I promise I'm developing reads and thinking about the game, just not at a rate that provides anything interesting to town right now. I try to gather data with a more or less null read on everybody so as to be objective, then study the data once I feel like its enough for a "read". He't not really going out of his way to be all that productive. He doesn't feel confident enough about anything on D1, so he just kinda points out things he notices, sometimes before he's reached his own conclusion. Post from WC2: On November 05 2013 01:17 Sn0_Man wrote: Can WoS post this actively as scum? Not a fan of his take on the game so far. Post from this game: On January 16 2014 09:27 Sn0_Man wrote: Its my first mafia game in monthsssssss PS since when does kush do like reads and shit 15 mins into a mafia game? I know why those are "scummy" ... but that's just kinda his D1 town play. @ Toad he's never rolled scum. That's also part of my read. | ||
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On January 17 2014 11:11 kushm4sta wrote: sn0man why are you so much more chill this game? don't think this is chill? (from wc) On November 05 2013 03:35 Sn0_Man wrote: I dont do stuff D1 WoS you silly person you. On November 05 2013 03:39 Sn0_Man wrote: Yo I'm supposed to be a brainwashed religious acolyte. Original and thought provoking not really my thing hue that's pretty much all i have to say this. this is a really dumb meta argument anyways | ||
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On January 17 2014 11:22 Oatsmaster wrote: hey thrawn, does this dumb meta argument mean anything for the alignment of the people that supported it? Namely, skan, toad, mig, kush? all I know about skan is that he hails from omgus so i'd say probably not kush, eh. maybe? meta cases + confirmation bias go hand in hand and that's what I think kush is doing. after all he solved the game mig, i'm still refusing to talk about until I see more of his posts toad? idk. probably but idk. the problem is that sn0man posts scummy shit as town (in WC2 I remember thinking how bad it was that he kept throwing in "iunno, but" before his reads) so I can't exactly hold it against anyone for calling him mafia. it';s not like i'm looking at his play in this game and thinking "oh wow all these posts are so townie" ... it's that I've successfully read him as lynchbait in the past and I have the same gut read on him now as I did then. | ||
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hint = (sn0man in WC2) | ||
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On January 17 2014 11:35 VayneAuthority wrote: I think it is suspicious in the way that you are doing it tho. You aren't really advocating or directing the lynch away from sn0_man, merely pushing against his lynch. That is more or less my quip, going against the grain hard with no solution kush+sn0, two people i'm town reading, seem to be the top lynch candidates. I can't just ignore that. not pushing my own lynch is just a failure on my part. i have tried though... i've voted grack, oats attacked me for it and i tried to get him to comment on my grack post. all he said was "grack isn't scum for the reasons he gave for voting koshi." i guess that's a failure on my part too because I should know by now that I can't expect Oats to cooperate also i've stated this repeatedly, some of my reads are subject to change based on future posts from others. obviously i can't explain that until it happens. really vayne, you yourself are doing the exact same thing (not showing all your cards) so i expect some understanding. if D1 goes by and I ended up not trying to push a lynch then we can resume this conversation | ||
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On January 17 2014 11:48 Oatsmaster wrote: your grack post is 'this is bullshit, grack is scum'. I dont share the same opinion. my vote on grack is because he hasn't made one productive post and is adhering to his mafia tactics of deflecting accusations with trolling On January 17 2014 07:26 Grackaroni wrote: I have been doing stuff actually. I spent hours in the scum QT with Skanjab1s planning out our night kills. I'm afraid Kush isn't long for this world. completely legitimate point by sn0man, grack entered the thread saying "you guys misreading toad" which is pretty useless in terms of finding scum and showing us his alginment. so grack needs to do stuff, as sn0man said. but instead he gives a troll answer and votes for koshi for reasons I still can't fathom, then slips away unnoticed from time to die On November 19 2013 17:26 Blazinghand wrote: In any case what's really funny, what really gets my goat more than anything else is that people are like finding weird explanations for why Grack can troll and be town or whatever and then when he's serious they take him serious and when people question him he trolls and everyone thinks it's okay. People who thought he was scum just suddenly stop thinking he's scum because in his own Grack-ey way he's so loveable. This is exactly why this style of scum play is so effective. The fact that people are like "yeah that's just grack trolling or whatever dont' worry let's lynch BH" is in fact a piece of supporting evidence in my case on Grack. ........ snip ............. When it comes down to it, Grack has done almost nothing today that merits the townreads or at least "let's lynch him later" reads that he's earned from people. People say my case on Grack is bad because he's an "easy target" but let's be 100% real here, that's pretty much the same as saying my case on Grack is bad because Grack is probably scum. Like "easy target" = "scummy". In fact, the majority of my case on Grack has to do with the fact that he's not an easy target, that when you reach out to grasp him he slips through your fingers like smoke and vanishes like a whisper on the wind, as quickly gone as an idle daydream but as firmly remembered as a summer's romance. | ||
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On January 17 2014 12:02 Oatsmaster wrote: Man thrawn if you werent so wishy washy I would be inclined to fofllow you but as it is, you have hopped around A LOT for the first 24 hours or so. I have similar thoughts about following myself | ||
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On January 17 2014 07:04 Grackaroni wrote: You guys are misreading what Toad writes. this is the most productive and pro-town thing he's posted all game | ||
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On January 17 2014 12:14 VayneAuthority wrote: not doing anything isn't a good reason to vote grack, the trolling thing is. If we want to lynch for usefulness, there's a guy that starts with C that we should lynch sadly I don't think that conversation can go anywhere other than "yes! lets lynch him if he continues not being useful" to be fair though this is kinda what I expect from him. he didn't do anything at all during WC2 (that fucking game again) and came in this big unhelpful "lets no lynch" and then went back to being afk. dunno what to say other than sure, i'll consider lynching him. | ||
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i retract that townread. rayn get in here and explain your terribad vote | ||
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