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On January 17 2014 04:40 Sn0_Man wrote: Tell you what mig, even if you are certain I'm scum there are at least 2 more scum out there plus or minus a serial killer. Who else is anti-town and why?
You've jumped into the thread and spoke of nothing except "omg sno scum lynchzorz". I'd like something more to read YOU by if you would be so kind.
I mentioned grack already. The longer he sits back while the focus is elsewhere the worse he looks.
Not a fan of cephiro either, his vt claim while doing nothing is bad
Kush is tricky and I am pretty unsure of him. Jumping into the thread and immediately attacking people seems pretty strange for him, but I know in the past hes said he has a hard time as mafia finding things to attack and he generally just makes town reads. Meh, I would certainly watch him.
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On January 17 2014 04:54 Toadesstern wrote:Show nested quote +On January 17 2014 04:47 raynpelikoneet wrote: Toad:
1) "The way he is posting" is a bullshit argument. It's an argument people use when they can't make real arguments. It's just like saying "his tone is scummy". Look at his past games, come back and tell me how does it differ. All the games, not just one.
2) No, i have been saying it all the time. Explain, with quotes. All the time, after Mig posted, i have said his posts are suspicious. If you are talking about something else here explain what and elaborate properly. About 2) I didn't see any quotes or explanations in the post I quoted. Just a one- or twoliner that looked like throwing mud. About 1) it's exactly what got Xatalos got lynched in the failgame. It's essentially the same thing because it's not a thing that is limited to Xatalos but a LOT of mafias. Toad that catalogs point is very different. Marv and rayn were very specific in saying that Xata does something as scum that he DOESN'T do as town. There is no basis to make that comparison on sn0's behalf unless he has literally never made a wishywashy statement ever before (since he's never rolled scum before)
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Well what a fount of helpful wisdom you are. Such daring insight.
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Hopeless, who do you think is scum? Anyone besides Grack? Do you think the cases against Sno are being mafia driven or townie driven?
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Sno you have given 0 insight into who is scum. You said you would lynch Grack because hes a lurker......
Try to keep the hypocrisy in check thanks.
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I'm not sure where I stand right now, I believe there is at least one scum out of sn0 skan toad rayn. Right now I'm leaning on it being skan. I'd still rather lynch grack than anyone else.
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On January 17 2014 04:58 Hopeless1der wrote:Show nested quote +On January 17 2014 04:54 Toadesstern wrote:On January 17 2014 04:47 raynpelikoneet wrote: Toad:
1) "The way he is posting" is a bullshit argument. It's an argument people use when they can't make real arguments. It's just like saying "his tone is scummy". Look at his past games, come back and tell me how does it differ. All the games, not just one.
2) No, i have been saying it all the time. Explain, with quotes. All the time, after Mig posted, i have said his posts are suspicious. If you are talking about something else here explain what and elaborate properly. About 2) I didn't see any quotes or explanations in the post I quoted. Just a one- or twoliner that looked like throwing mud. About 1) it's exactly what got Xatalos got lynched in the failgame. It's essentially the same thing because it's not a thing that is limited to Xatalos but a LOT of mafias. Toad that catalogs point is very different. Marv and rayn were very specific in saying that Xata does something as scum that he DOESN'T do as town. There is no basis to make that comparison on sn0's behalf unless he has literally never made a wishywashy statement ever before (since he's never rolled scum before)
All I'm saying is that the VAST majority of mafia's I caught all got caught for that same reason. It's not something that is Xata-specific at all but happens with pretty much every mafia on TL. Even I still have those moments when I post as mafia, press preview and have to rephrase it before clicking "post". It's just something that seems natural for mafias to do. So yes it is comparable.
We should probably also be talking about this:
On January 16 2014 09:51 VayneAuthority wrote: No, I don't think mafia has any reason to claim that there. But I definitely had a reason for asking. He said himself that when you see him doing something smart it's probably just a misunderstanding and it's something else. If this isn't smart it's plain mafia.
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On January 17 2014 04:55 Hopeless1der wrote:Show nested quote +On January 17 2014 04:42 Skanjab1s wrote:On January 17 2014 04:36 Hopeless1der wrote: Toad, rayn has already explained at great length why skanjabs case is bad and how it could indicate a mafia mindset. He then went and read Hogwarts and concluded that skanjab is bad. The reasons are there if you choose to read them. Are you still in catch up mode or something? You're constantly not reading the thread properly. Once you wipe rayn's semen off of your eyes go back and read and see that his reasons for thinking the points on my case were wrong are based on a misunderstanding Stop the personal attacks It's not personal, sunshine. You didn't answer my questionnaire, and you must be punished with 5th grade penis jokes. The horror.
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OK come on.
I've been posting, pointing out inconsistencies that I see, demonstrably showing how my reads are developing on Hopeless, Skanjab, etc. I haven't exactly nailed scum yet but I'm trying to be transparent and keep the thread moving in a positive direction.
You drop into the thread, blast the current most popular target, then toss out "oh yeah and those 2 lurkers must be the other scum cuz I'm too lazy to come up with anything else".
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On January 17 2014 05:06 Sn0_Man wrote: OK come on.
I've been posting, pointing out inconsistencies that I see, demonstrably showing how my reads are developing on Hopeless, Skanjab, etc. I haven't exactly nailed scum yet but I'm trying to be transparent and keep the thread moving in a positive direction.
You drop into the thread, blast the current most popular target, then toss out "oh yeah and those 2 lurkers must be the other scum cuz I'm too lazy to come up with anything else".
I would say the case I presented against you had a lot more depth than anything you have posted. For one thing, I actually did some research into a past game. You happened to be the most popular target so what? Do you believe that is why I am posting against you? Or do you think I genuinely believe what I am posting? I am actually trying to find scum here instead of saying I would lynch grack because he's a lurker.
For other people what do you want. It is day1, sorry I don't have the entire scum team figured out. I am still open to discussing people which is why I am still talking to you and rayn/hopleess/etc
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Mig why are you not talking to Toad?
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You know he is like really good and competitive and shit and can find all the scum and you can read him etc.
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On January 17 2014 05:05 Skanjab1s wrote:Show nested quote +On January 17 2014 04:55 Hopeless1der wrote:On January 17 2014 04:42 Skanjab1s wrote:On January 17 2014 04:36 Hopeless1der wrote: Toad, rayn has already explained at great length why skanjabs case is bad and how it could indicate a mafia mindset. He then went and read Hogwarts and concluded that skanjab is bad. The reasons are there if you choose to read them. Are you still in catch up mode or something? You're constantly not reading the thread properly. Once you wipe rayn's semen off of your eyes go back and read and see that his reasons for thinking the points on my case were wrong are based on a misunderstanding Stop the personal attacks It's not personal, sunshine. You didn't answer my questionnaire, and you must be punished with 5th grade penis jokes. The horror. So now that it's quite clear the people who have not answered to your questionnaire are not gonna answer it anyways, what was the point and what did you learn?
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Do I have to talk to every single person 2 hours after my first post rayn?
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On January 17 2014 05:24 Mig wrote: Do I have to talk to every single person 2 hours after my first post rayn? No, i just asked why are you not talking to Toad, which i would assume you would do because when i am town i am more inclined to find out the "best" players alignment first and all in all i focus on them more than to other players.
I just wanted to know what's your reason for not talking with him, why are you so defensive?
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I haven't talked to him because I haven't talked to him, there is no ulterior motive here. That was my point.
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hi! awake.
koshi so scummy
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