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Meapak_Ziphh
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States6786 Posts
May 19 2014 19:26 GMT
#196
Sigh

/in
Forti et Fideli ~ TL Mafia Forum: Come play with us! ~ Go Samsung KHAN, Stork, JangBi , Shine, Grape, and TurN Fighting!~ wat
Meapak_Ziphh
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States6786 Posts
May 20 2014 06:53 GMT
#227
should I read the OP?

Or any of this thread thus far?
Forti et Fideli ~ TL Mafia Forum: Come play with us! ~ Go Samsung KHAN, Stork, JangBi , Shine, Grape, and TurN Fighting!~ wat
Meapak_Ziphh
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States6786 Posts
May 20 2014 20:39 GMT
#238
On May 20 2014 15:53 Meapak_Ziphh wrote:
should I read the OP?

Or any of this thread thus far?

I need an answer yo
Forti et Fideli ~ TL Mafia Forum: Come play with us! ~ Go Samsung KHAN, Stork, JangBi , Shine, Grape, and TurN Fighting!~ wat
Meapak_Ziphh
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States6786 Posts
May 20 2014 21:13 GMT
#264
wait there are four factions in this game?

Guess I might as well read the op then.

Wave that was a mighty suspicious post, sounds like you're trying to make excuses for future bad play...
Forti et Fideli ~ TL Mafia Forum: Come play with us! ~ Go Samsung KHAN, Stork, JangBi , Shine, Grape, and TurN Fighting!~ wat
Meapak_Ziphh
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States6786 Posts
May 20 2014 21:14 GMT
#269
On May 21 2014 06:13 27ninjabunnies wrote:
Is this normal forum play to just vote whoever you want within the first five minutes of the game?

Cause that seems kind of redundant, and stupid.


Sadly, this is very normal for forum play.
Forti et Fideli ~ TL Mafia Forum: Come play with us! ~ Go Samsung KHAN, Stork, JangBi , Shine, Grape, and TurN Fighting!~ wat
Meapak_Ziphh
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States6786 Posts
May 20 2014 21:20 GMT
#278
On May 21 2014 06:15 WaveofShadow wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 21 2014 06:12 Steveling wrote:
On May 21 2014 06:09 WaveofShadow wrote:
This is going to bed a very odd game with so many I don't know.
In other news I'm getting real sick of rolling VT in massive theme-style games (or games in general). Really fucking boring.
Gonna be the same basic formula: either I suck balls and get left alive forever and get demoralized and whatnot, or I get a flash of genius and play well and get killed earlyish. The latter means I gotta try though and even then there are no guarantees. Blehhhhhhhhhhh

K so first order of business:
##vote: holyflare


Sold.

##vote: holyflare

Lol now I'm honestly debating whether or not to seriously push this.
If he's scum nobody's gonna lynch the guy so as much as I'd feel bad not letting him play, mebbe somebody shoot him or something just to remove all doubt?

I understand where the bolded logic comes from, in a normal game he wouldn't be lynched right away because scum wouldn't hop on the wagon. However in this game the same rules don't apply since there are more factions. I think it's very possible to see zero opposition wagons happen on scum.
Forti et Fideli ~ TL Mafia Forum: Come play with us! ~ Go Samsung KHAN, Stork, JangBi , Shine, Grape, and TurN Fighting!~ wat
Meapak_Ziphh
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States6786 Posts
May 20 2014 21:22 GMT
#280
On May 21 2014 06:16 WaveofShadow wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 21 2014 06:14 Meapak_Ziphh wrote:
On May 21 2014 06:13 27ninjabunnies wrote:
Is this normal forum play to just vote whoever you want within the first five minutes of the game?

Cause that seems kind of redundant, and stupid.


Sadly, this is very normal for forum play.

Why sadly MZ?
You hev probrem?

u wot m8
donchu eva git cheeky wit me m8
Forti et Fideli ~ TL Mafia Forum: Come play with us! ~ Go Samsung KHAN, Stork, JangBi , Shine, Grape, and TurN Fighting!~ wat
Meapak_Ziphh
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States6786 Posts
May 20 2014 21:24 GMT
#287
On May 21 2014 06:22 Valenius wrote:
9 player day 1's normally confuse me. gg.

This is a total bitch post

I don't like bitches in my game

##Vote: Valenius
Forti et Fideli ~ TL Mafia Forum: Come play with us! ~ Go Samsung KHAN, Stork, JangBi , Shine, Grape, and TurN Fighting!~ wat
Meapak_Ziphh
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States6786 Posts
May 20 2014 21:26 GMT
#291
On May 21 2014 06:23 Xatalos wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 21 2014 06:20 Meapak_Ziphh wrote:
On May 21 2014 06:15 WaveofShadow wrote:
On May 21 2014 06:12 Steveling wrote:
On May 21 2014 06:09 WaveofShadow wrote:
This is going to bed a very odd game with so many I don't know.
In other news I'm getting real sick of rolling VT in massive theme-style games (or games in general). Really fucking boring.
Gonna be the same basic formula: either I suck balls and get left alive forever and get demoralized and whatnot, or I get a flash of genius and play well and get killed earlyish. The latter means I gotta try though and even then there are no guarantees. Blehhhhhhhhhhh

K so first order of business:
##vote: holyflare


Sold.

##vote: holyflare

Lol now I'm honestly debating whether or not to seriously push this.
If he's scum nobody's gonna lynch the guy so as much as I'd feel bad not letting him play, mebbe somebody shoot him or something just to remove all doubt?

I understand where the bolded logic comes from, in a normal game he wouldn't be lynched right away because scum wouldn't hop on the wagon. However in this game the same rules don't apply since there are more factions. I think it's very possible to see zero opposition wagons happen on scum.


That actually adds a pretty interesting element to the game. Connection speculation is less useful - or more precisely said more complicated.

I agree that's it's gonna be more complicated which is why I'd rather not use it as a heuristic for a D1 lynch, after we see a few flips we can start speculating again but right now I think it's more distracting than useful and we should focus on simple behavior based scum hunting.
Forti et Fideli ~ TL Mafia Forum: Come play with us! ~ Go Samsung KHAN, Stork, JangBi , Shine, Grape, and TurN Fighting!~ wat
Meapak_Ziphh
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States6786 Posts
May 20 2014 21:29 GMT
#305
On May 21 2014 06:27 jampidampi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 21 2014 06:21 27ninjabunnies wrote:

--

It's also obvious who are going to jump out in the front and try and lead town one way or another. We definitely have a mafia or two in the first couple of pages.

You sound confident, enough that I think you have your eye on someone already. Care to share as to who it may be?

Dis is some gud shit right here.

Ninja bro I'd like to hear about this as well.
Forti et Fideli ~ TL Mafia Forum: Come play with us! ~ Go Samsung KHAN, Stork, JangBi , Shine, Grape, and TurN Fighting!~ wat
Meapak_Ziphh
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States6786 Posts
May 20 2014 21:36 GMT
#321
On May 21 2014 06:32 Blazinghand wrote:
Look, I know you guys all hate RNG lynch but with 4 factions there's gonna be way more scum than usual, right? This means RNG has a much higher chance than usual of hitting scum. This is possibly the best time EVER for using RNg. Everyone lynch OdinofPergo, because statistically speaking he is scum.

I was going to yell at you for the RNG nonsense but then I realized that you're right and even if you're scum, your plan has a decent chance of hitting other scum.

HOWEVER, this is my first game in forever so fuck yo RNG, I'm gonna choose my vote the old fashioned way.
Forti et Fideli ~ TL Mafia Forum: Come play with us! ~ Go Samsung KHAN, Stork, JangBi , Shine, Grape, and TurN Fighting!~ wat
Meapak_Ziphh
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States6786 Posts
May 20 2014 21:37 GMT
#325
On May 21 2014 06:30 kitaman27 wrote:
Hi everybody!

##Vote sqrtofneg1

Hey kita plz explain vote to me
Forti et Fideli ~ TL Mafia Forum: Come play with us! ~ Go Samsung KHAN, Stork, JangBi , Shine, Grape, and TurN Fighting!~ wat
Meapak_Ziphh
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States6786 Posts
May 20 2014 21:42 GMT
#336
On May 21 2014 06:38 Blazinghand wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 21 2014 06:36 Meapak_Ziphh wrote:
On May 21 2014 06:32 Blazinghand wrote:
Look, I know you guys all hate RNG lynch but with 4 factions there's gonna be way more scum than usual, right? This means RNG has a much higher chance than usual of hitting scum. This is possibly the best time EVER for using RNg. Everyone lynch OdinofPergo, because statistically speaking he is scum.

I was going to yell at you for the RNG nonsense but then I realized that you're right and even if you're scum, your plan has a decent chance of hitting other scum.

HOWEVER, this is my first game in forever so fuck yo RNG, I'm gonna choose my vote the old fashioned way.


Or Instead of the old fashioned homeopathic non-vaccinated way, you could use your vote in the scientifically correct way and vote OdinofPergo!

Vaccines cause autism tho

/s
Forti et Fideli ~ TL Mafia Forum: Come play with us! ~ Go Samsung KHAN, Stork, JangBi , Shine, Grape, and TurN Fighting!~ wat
Meapak_Ziphh
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States6786 Posts
May 20 2014 21:43 GMT
#341
On May 21 2014 06:42 kushm4sta wrote:
i feel compelled to remind everyone to shut the fuck up because this is a 30 person game.

I feel compelled to point out that this is a filler post telling everyone to shut the fuck up
Forti et Fideli ~ TL Mafia Forum: Come play with us! ~ Go Samsung KHAN, Stork, JangBi , Shine, Grape, and TurN Fighting!~ wat
Meapak_Ziphh
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States6786 Posts
May 20 2014 21:59 GMT
#385
People I don't like agree with Yellow
I don't agree with Yellow
love it how things work out sometimes
Forti et Fideli ~ TL Mafia Forum: Come play with us! ~ Go Samsung KHAN, Stork, JangBi , Shine, Grape, and TurN Fighting!~ wat
Meapak_Ziphh
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States6786 Posts
May 20 2014 22:02 GMT
#390
@thrawn: plz tell me you're trying to be lynch bait as part of a plan to catch the people who go after you.

Forti et Fideli ~ TL Mafia Forum: Come play with us! ~ Go Samsung KHAN, Stork, JangBi , Shine, Grape, and TurN Fighting!~ wat
Meapak_Ziphh
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States6786 Posts
May 20 2014 22:03 GMT
#395
On May 21 2014 07:02 Holyflare wrote:
#logic

So sexy

Now do you have any other ideas other than that?
Forti et Fideli ~ TL Mafia Forum: Come play with us! ~ Go Samsung KHAN, Stork, JangBi , Shine, Grape, and TurN Fighting!~ wat
Meapak_Ziphh
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States6786 Posts
May 20 2014 22:08 GMT
#409
On May 21 2014 07:05 Holyflare wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 21 2014 07:03 Meapak_Ziphh wrote:
On May 21 2014 07:02 Holyflare wrote:
#logic

So sexy

Now do you have any other ideas other than that?


bunnies talked about mafia definitely being present in game so also mafia

Mafia?

In a game of mafia you say?
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Forti et Fideli ~ TL Mafia Forum: Come play with us! ~ Go Samsung KHAN, Stork, JangBi , Shine, Grape, and TurN Fighting!~ wat
Meapak_Ziphh
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States6786 Posts
May 20 2014 22:11 GMT
#420
On May 21 2014 07:08 jampidampi wrote:
Meapak earlier you were interested in 27ninjabunnies, did you gather anything from my conversation with her? If you had to bet on her alignment, what would you guess?

ehhhh
I understand the part about gut reads, I've had them myself and I know how frustrating it is to try and explain them. I give her (is ninja a her?) a pass for now because her posts seem very unguarded and often early game is when scum are most uptight.
Forti et Fideli ~ TL Mafia Forum: Come play with us! ~ Go Samsung KHAN, Stork, JangBi , Shine, Grape, and TurN Fighting!~ wat
Meapak_Ziphh
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States6786 Posts
May 20 2014 22:17 GMT
#433
On May 21 2014 07:12 Tehpoofter wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 21 2014 07:03 marvellosity wrote:
On May 21 2014 07:01 Xatalos wrote:
On May 21 2014 06:57 marvellosity wrote:
On May 21 2014 06:54 Xatalos wrote:
On May 21 2014 06:50 marvellosity wrote:
On May 21 2014 06:49 Koshi wrote:
On May 21 2014 06:46 marvellosity wrote:
##Vote: Xatalos

AND SO IT BEGINS.

Did he do the same thing like he did in the game we have banned out of our minds?

##Vote: Xatalos

I don't know.

All I know is he's waffling repeatedly and nonsensically about the same stupid thing. That'll do for now.


What do you mean "I don't know"? You were very specific about your reasons last time. Please be more specific again.

I've been perfectly specific, especially for a vote less than an hour into the game. Afraid you'll have to put up with it, dear.


It just felt like you didn't care too much about your vote. From my previous experience with you, you're very conservative and cautious at the start as town - carefully searching for a good lynch. On the other hand, you're more aggressive and lynch-happy as scum (I don't think I've ever played with you as being scum, but I went through your earlier games in one earlier game and came to that conclusion). That's why I'm afraid that you might have rolled scum this time.

Actually historically I throw my vote around more as town, although it varies from game to game. Worry all you like dear.

I'd worry more about not talking bollocks over multiple posts if I were you ^_^


Can you tell us more about your meta so we can read you correctly?

Plz tell me this was sarcasm

On May 21 2014 07:12 thrawn2112 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 21 2014 07:02 Meapak_Ziphh wrote:
@thrawn: plz tell me you're trying to be lynch bait as part of a plan to catch the people who go after you.



nope. you guys just cant handle my brutal honesty

anyways i'm probably going to dick around for a bit and start playing more seriously once the game gets going, similar to last game.

Just what I expected sadly.
On May 21 2014 07:13 Xatalos wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 21 2014 07:10 marvellosity wrote:
On May 21 2014 07:07 Xatalos wrote:
On May 21 2014 07:03 marvellosity wrote:
On May 21 2014 07:01 Xatalos wrote:
On May 21 2014 06:57 marvellosity wrote:
On May 21 2014 06:54 Xatalos wrote:
On May 21 2014 06:50 marvellosity wrote:
On May 21 2014 06:49 Koshi wrote:
On May 21 2014 06:46 marvellosity wrote:
##Vote: Xatalos

AND SO IT BEGINS.

Did he do the same thing like he did in the game we have banned out of our minds?

##Vote: Xatalos

I don't know.

All I know is he's waffling repeatedly and nonsensically about the same stupid thing. That'll do for now.


What do you mean "I don't know"? You were very specific about your reasons last time. Please be more specific again.

I've been perfectly specific, especially for a vote less than an hour into the game. Afraid you'll have to put up with it, dear.


It just felt like you didn't care too much about your vote. From my previous experience with you, you're very conservative and cautious at the start as town - carefully searching for a good lynch. On the other hand, you're more aggressive and lynch-happy as scum (I don't think I've ever played with you as being scum, but I went through your earlier games in one earlier game and came to that conclusion). That's why I'm afraid that you might have rolled scum this time.

Actually historically I throw my vote around more as town, although it varies from game to game. Worry all you like dear.

I'd worry more about not talking bollocks over multiple posts if I were you ^_^


Specify "bollocks". Nobody else seems to agree with that definition of my posts (at least I don't think so).

I've seen you start the game with a half-assed vote several times as scum. When you've been town, you're usually even overly passive/cautious to begin with. That's what I don't like here.

Find me someone who will vouch for your series of posts on voting patterns and crap deciding the Day 1 lynch actually being useful, and maybe we can talk again. Toddle along now ^_^


MZ and Tehpoofter I think mentioned that they liked what I said on the topic. Not that it was something über-useful, but definitely not "bollocks". Lol

While I may have agreed with you xata, my post on the subject was actually trying to get people to drop it so it wouldn’t clutter the thread. Of course then people went and made it a thing -_-
Forti et Fideli ~ TL Mafia Forum: Come play with us! ~ Go Samsung KHAN, Stork, JangBi , Shine, Grape, and TurN Fighting!~ wat
Meapak_Ziphh
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States6786 Posts
May 20 2014 22:19 GMT
#436
On May 21 2014 07:18 Holyflare wrote:
why you hate things mz? things are good

not hatin bro, I'm just livin the ez town lyf
Forti et Fideli ~ TL Mafia Forum: Come play with us! ~ Go Samsung KHAN, Stork, JangBi , Shine, Grape, and TurN Fighting!~ wat
Meapak_Ziphh
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States6786 Posts
May 20 2014 22:22 GMT
#441
On May 21 2014 07:21 Steveling wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 21 2014 07:20 Holyflare wrote:
if you're gonna play like last game i will actually policy lynch you and i honestly don't care


HF confirmed scum guys.
Like 100000000000000000%
Koshi and poofter pls vote him.

steve mang

gonna need more than that son
Forti et Fideli ~ TL Mafia Forum: Come play with us! ~ Go Samsung KHAN, Stork, JangBi , Shine, Grape, and TurN Fighting!~ wat
Meapak_Ziphh
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States6786 Posts
May 20 2014 22:25 GMT
#452
On May 21 2014 07:22 Steveling wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 21 2014 07:22 Meapak_Ziphh wrote:
On May 21 2014 07:21 Steveling wrote:
On May 21 2014 07:20 Holyflare wrote:
if you're gonna play like last game i will actually policy lynch you and i honestly don't care


HF confirmed scum guys.
Like 100000000000000000%
Koshi and poofter pls vote him.

steve mang

gonna need more than that son


Read our last game, it's not long.

That's the most halfassed response I've ever seen

Firstly you expect me to do work which is a nono

Secondly you refuse to do work yourself which is unacceptable.
Forti et Fideli ~ TL Mafia Forum: Come play with us! ~ Go Samsung KHAN, Stork, JangBi , Shine, Grape, and TurN Fighting!~ wat
Meapak_Ziphh
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States6786 Posts
May 20 2014 22:36 GMT
#473
you know HF, OMGUS never looks good no matter what the situation.

Now where the fuck is Kita, I asked him a question and he never came back to the thread.
Forti et Fideli ~ TL Mafia Forum: Come play with us! ~ Go Samsung KHAN, Stork, JangBi , Shine, Grape, and TurN Fighting!~ wat
Meapak_Ziphh
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States6786 Posts
May 20 2014 22:39 GMT
#481
On May 21 2014 07:36 Blazinghand wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 21 2014 06:42 Meapak_Ziphh wrote:
On May 21 2014 06:38 Blazinghand wrote:
On May 21 2014 06:36 Meapak_Ziphh wrote:
On May 21 2014 06:32 Blazinghand wrote:
Look, I know you guys all hate RNG lynch but with 4 factions there's gonna be way more scum than usual, right? This means RNG has a much higher chance than usual of hitting scum. This is possibly the best time EVER for using RNg. Everyone lynch OdinofPergo, because statistically speaking he is scum.

I was going to yell at you for the RNG nonsense but then I realized that you're right and even if you're scum, your plan has a decent chance of hitting other scum.

HOWEVER, this is my first game in forever so fuck yo RNG, I'm gonna choose my vote the old fashioned way.


Or Instead of the old fashioned homeopathic non-vaccinated way, you could use your vote in the scientifically correct way and vote OdinofPergo!

Vaccines cause autism tho

/s


seriously though, the story you're going with is "I realized you're right, and even if you're scum, your plan will probably work and we'll probably hit scum... but I'm not gonna follow your plan, because of ill-defind reasons"?

Actually yeah, I'm not even gonna argue with you. I play mafia for fun and us all picking an RNG then sitting back and seeing what happens doesn't seem fun to me. Plus I at least have enough faith in my own deduction and reasoning skills to think that I have just as good a chance of finding scum with analysis as RNG does.
Forti et Fideli ~ TL Mafia Forum: Come play with us! ~ Go Samsung KHAN, Stork, JangBi , Shine, Grape, and TurN Fighting!~ wat
Meapak_Ziphh
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States6786 Posts
May 20 2014 22:44 GMT
#495
On May 21 2014 07:40 jampidampi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 21 2014 07:11 Meapak_Ziphh wrote:
On May 21 2014 07:08 jampidampi wrote:
Meapak earlier you were interested in 27ninjabunnies, did you gather anything from my conversation with her? If you had to bet on her alignment, what would you guess?

ehhhh
I understand the part about gut reads, I've had them myself and I know how frustrating it is to try and explain them. I give her (is ninja a her?) a pass for now because her posts seem very unguarded and often early game is when scum are most uptight.

Unguarded? To me it seems that she is very defensive here:

Show nested quote +
On May 21 2014 06:52 27ninjabunnies wrote:
On May 21 2014 06:45 jampidampi wrote:
On May 21 2014 06:39 27ninjabunnies wrote:
On May 21 2014 06:27 jampidampi wrote:
On May 21 2014 06:21 27ninjabunnies wrote:

--

It's also obvious who are going to jump out in the front and try and lead town one way or another. We definitely have a mafia or two in the first couple of pages.

You sound confident, enough that I think you have your eye on someone already. Care to share as to who it may be?


I may have my eye on a few people.

From my experience, there are two type of mafia people: the lurkers, and the ones who like to come out first day and take control of town.

I'm focusing on the latter because they are the ones to likely talk more, you can easily find their slips (if any), and they are also more likely to last longer than the lurker mafia.

Why are you avoiding my question? I asked you to name your suspicions, but instead you give an indefinite answear and then babble on about something that could reasonably be figured out from your earlier post.


If I'm avoiding your question, it's because I have a pretty good damn reason as to why.
But because you are being persistant, the ones I have my eye on are Steveling, WaveofShadow and Tehpoofter.

But this doesn't necessarily mean they are scum. I rather read more of their play and interactions before I straight out call someone mafia. The majority of these people I haven't played with, and this is my second forum game.

If I don't have logic behind my reads, where does that put me? As a freaking town more likely to get mislynched.

So hold your horses, let me get my reads, and then we'll talk.

She has "a pretty damn good reason" to avoid my question, yet she anwears it. Earlier she said that "we definitely have a mafia or two" but now they are not necessarily scum. Brining out the newbie card, defending accusations that don't exist. I would definitely not call this post unguarded. Based on this I wouldn't clear bunnies so easily, but now you're interesting. What makes you think she was "unguarded" in this post?

+ Show Spoiler +
For the annoyed thing, if she was slightly pissed at me, I would understand this kind of backlash.

I agree that she made a terrible post there, my "unguarded" comment did not specifically relate to any one post in particular and more to her style of posting over all. My personal concern with her is actually her sudden clearing of me after I lightly defended her. It's waaaay too early in the game to say you won't lynch someone, even if you qualify it with D1.
Forti et Fideli ~ TL Mafia Forum: Come play with us! ~ Go Samsung KHAN, Stork, JangBi , Shine, Grape, and TurN Fighting!~ wat
Meapak_Ziphh
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States6786 Posts
May 20 2014 22:49 GMT
#503
On May 21 2014 07:44 Valenius wrote:
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On May 21 2014 07:42 kitaman27 wrote:
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On May 21 2014 06:17 27ninjabunnies wrote:
I'd lynch HF in a heartbeat if he aligned with mafia.


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On May 21 2014 06:23 27ninjabunnies wrote:
Oh I'd lynch tamburini in a heartbeat regardless of his alignment.


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On May 21 2014 07:23 27ninjabunnies wrote:
I'd lynch him in a heartbeat.


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On May 21 2014 07:28 WaveofShadow wrote:
Sorry HF you've broken my heart too many times.


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On May 21 2014 07:33 Xatalos wrote:
Why this change of heart?


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Chalis (ハート Heart) is an antagonist in Golden Sun: Dark Dawn. Together with Blados, she is one of the commanders of a secretive military nation named Tuaparang.

All three are bad guys taunting us in the thread. I rest my case.


LOL

##unvoted koshi btw

Yo so anyone else wanna sheep me on this guy?

@BH RE Shitstorm: personally I hate shitstorms because they scare away townies and allow scum to control the agenda. Yes it provides an environment for scumslips to happen but my concern is that they get swamped and it takes literally days of ingame time to fully flesh out what happened, at which time scum will be in total control of the game. I understand where you're coming from but I think the costs outweigh the benefits.
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Meapak_Ziphh
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States6786 Posts
May 20 2014 22:55 GMT
#519
Actually BH, I seek to have a decent thread. It is not as clumsy or random as a shitstorm thread. It is an elegant thread, from a more civilized age.
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Meapak_Ziphh
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States6786 Posts
May 20 2014 22:57 GMT
#526
On May 21 2014 07:54 Hapahauli wrote:
Two things:

@ Holyflare

Why are you playing as if you have a stick up your butt?

@ Everyone

Let's kill Valenius:
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On May 21 2014 06:22 Valenius wrote:
9 player day 1's normally confuse me. gg.

On May 21 2014 06:24 Valenius wrote:
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On May 21 2014 06:22 Koshi wrote:
On May 21 2014 06:22 Valenius wrote:
9 player day 1's normally confuse me. gg.

Sheep me sheeping marv.
ezgame ezlife.


i thought you were hosting. wtf.

##vote: Koshi

On May 21 2014 06:29 Valenius wrote:
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On May 21 2014 06:28 Koshi wrote:
On May 21 2014 06:27 Koshi wrote:
On May 21 2014 06:24 Valenius wrote:
On May 21 2014 06:22 Koshi wrote:
On May 21 2014 06:22 Valenius wrote:
9 player day 1's normally confuse me. gg.

Sheep me sheeping marv.
ezgame ezlife.


i thought you were hosting. wtf.

##vote: Koshi

Even though I am a divine being in this game. I ascended and joined the plebs. I don't have anything against plebs though, they are simple but amusing beings. I allow the smartest of them to call me Koshi. You can call me Master.

I might have meant descended. It is just hard for me to grasp going downwards.


It was such a nice post, I wasn't going to correct it for you.

On May 21 2014 06:50 Valenius wrote:
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On May 21 2014 06:49 Yell0w wrote:
So about this whole RNG thing, aren't scum players more likely to vote for OdinofPergo if he isn't in their faction since they don't even need a reason to vote him? They can just claim they're doing it for RNG and get a lynch on someone who isn't aligned with them?

Wouldn't a better way be to each claim we are RNG voting, then use the RNG on the post in which we claimed it and then vote for whomever our own post said? So that there is no way to know if you're going to lynch someone of your own faction or not so it's riskier for scum to go by RNG? Maybe I'm completely wrong here.


I like that, I haven't thought it through - But I like it.

RNG V2


On May 21 2014 06:52 Valenius wrote:
Actually, won't it cause the same theoretical situation, just with votes more spread?

On May 21 2014 07:44 Valenius wrote:
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On May 21 2014 07:42 kitaman27 wrote:
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On May 21 2014 06:17 27ninjabunnies wrote:
I'd lynch HF in a heartbeat if he aligned with mafia.


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On May 21 2014 06:23 27ninjabunnies wrote:
Oh I'd lynch tamburini in a heartbeat regardless of his alignment.


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On May 21 2014 07:23 27ninjabunnies wrote:
I'd lynch him in a heartbeat.


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On May 21 2014 07:28 WaveofShadow wrote:
Sorry HF you've broken my heart too many times.


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On May 21 2014 07:33 Xatalos wrote:
Why this change of heart?


[image loading]

Chalis (ハート Heart) is an antagonist in Golden Sun: Dark Dawn. Together with Blados, she is one of the commanders of a secretive military nation named Tuaparang.

All three are bad guys taunting us in the thread. I rest my case.


LOL

##unvoted koshi btw
On May 21 2014 07:48 Valenius wrote:
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On May 21 2014 07:47 Holyflare wrote:
On May 21 2014 07:45 Steveling wrote:
On May 21 2014 07:43 Holyflare wrote:
On May 21 2014 07:36 marvellosity wrote:
Xatalos, I really have no idea, nor do I care, because I don't particularly strive to be consistent from game to game. Honestly the fact that you're beating away at this makes you look kinda better though, so maybe I'll unvote you if I'm feeling nice

On May 21 2014 07:32 Holyflare wrote:
yes please do

##unvote
##vote steveling


You do realise, though, that Steve's semi-ridiculous behaviour makes it less likely he's mafia though, yes? (or traditional mafia. I'm just gonna say town for town and mafia for all the other factions until something tells me otherwise)

On May 21 2014 07:20 Holyflare wrote:
if you're gonna play like last game i will actually policy lynch you and i honestly don't care


despite me being scum in the game he was talking about we literally only won because he was doing what he was doing as town and was an easy mislynch so i'm just going to get rid of him until he learns


Yes you literally only won because of my bad play as town right?
Not because NO ONE, LITERALLY NO ONE VOTED FOR A SCUM IN ALL 3 DAYS.

Oh wait, except me.


^^^ case in point


anyway bh if you take out newbie games towns recently have a 40%+ chance of finding mafia day 1 by lynching and so it's obv far better not to rng


If you add in newbie games, we just lynch town/any claimed power roles. ezpz


6 posts, all of them a mixture of "+1'ing" other people and irrelevant comments. His filter reads a lot like someone who's artificially trying to insert himself in discussion.

##Vote: Valenius

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Meapak_Ziphh
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States6786 Posts
May 20 2014 23:00 GMT
#535
On May 21 2014 07:56 jampidampi wrote:
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On May 21 2014 07:44 Meapak_Ziphh wrote:
On May 21 2014 07:40 jampidampi wrote:
On May 21 2014 07:11 Meapak_Ziphh wrote:
On May 21 2014 07:08 jampidampi wrote:
Meapak earlier you were interested in 27ninjabunnies, did you gather anything from my conversation with her? If you had to bet on her alignment, what would you guess?

ehhhh
I understand the part about gut reads, I've had them myself and I know how frustrating it is to try and explain them. I give her (is ninja a her?) a pass for now because her posts seem very unguarded and often early game is when scum are most uptight.

Unguarded? To me it seems that she is very defensive here:

On May 21 2014 06:52 27ninjabunnies wrote:
On May 21 2014 06:45 jampidampi wrote:
On May 21 2014 06:39 27ninjabunnies wrote:
On May 21 2014 06:27 jampidampi wrote:
On May 21 2014 06:21 27ninjabunnies wrote:

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It's also obvious who are going to jump out in the front and try and lead town one way or another. We definitely have a mafia or two in the first couple of pages.

You sound confident, enough that I think you have your eye on someone already. Care to share as to who it may be?


I may have my eye on a few people.

From my experience, there are two type of mafia people: the lurkers, and the ones who like to come out first day and take control of town.

I'm focusing on the latter because they are the ones to likely talk more, you can easily find their slips (if any), and they are also more likely to last longer than the lurker mafia.

Why are you avoiding my question? I asked you to name your suspicions, but instead you give an indefinite answear and then babble on about something that could reasonably be figured out from your earlier post.


If I'm avoiding your question, it's because I have a pretty good damn reason as to why.
But because you are being persistant, the ones I have my eye on are Steveling, WaveofShadow and Tehpoofter.

But this doesn't necessarily mean they are scum. I rather read more of their play and interactions before I straight out call someone mafia. The majority of these people I haven't played with, and this is my second forum game.

If I don't have logic behind my reads, where does that put me? As a freaking town more likely to get mislynched.

So hold your horses, let me get my reads, and then we'll talk.

She has "a pretty damn good reason" to avoid my question, yet she anwears it. Earlier she said that "we definitely have a mafia or two" but now they are not necessarily scum. Brining out the newbie card, defending accusations that don't exist. I would definitely not call this post unguarded. Based on this I wouldn't clear bunnies so easily, but now you're interesting. What makes you think she was "unguarded" in this post?

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For the annoyed thing, if she was slightly pissed at me, I would understand this kind of backlash.

I agree that she made a terrible post there, my "unguarded" comment did not specifically relate to any one post in particular and more to her style of posting over all. My personal concern with her is actually her sudden clearing of me after I lightly defended her. It's waaaay too early in the game to say you won't lynch someone, even if you qualify it with D1.

It still kinda baffles me that you could ignore such a heavy contrast to your generalization about bunnies play. Makes me think that you didn't actually put that much thought into it, which makes me think you might be scum.

It's soon 2 AM here, so see you all tomorrow

I mean if you want I can go through her filter and point out every place I thought she made an unguarded or off the cuff post. I don't think I'm ignoring the contrast, I'm just not condemning someone for one bad post (although I understand that's all you need sometimes). On the other hand, I do have serious reservations because of her buddying.

Look she's probably not gonna be my D1 lynch choice right now, I'm trying to make myself as clear as possible. Have a goodnight, I'll be more than happy to answer further questions when you wake up.
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Meapak_Ziphh
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States6786 Posts
May 20 2014 23:03 GMT
#540
On May 21 2014 08:01 kitaman27 wrote:
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On May 21 2014 07:59 WaveofShadow wrote:
Steve v HF mafia on mafia fight calling it now

Kita y u gotta do that every game
You make my heart sad


It's because you enter games with posts like these!

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In other news I'm getting real sick of rolling VT in massive theme-style games (or games in general). Really fucking boring.
Gonna be the same basic formula: either I suck balls and get left alive forever and get demoralized and whatnot, or I get a flash of genius and play well and get killed earlyish. The latter means I gotta try though and even then there are no guarantees. Blehhhhhhhhhhh


Also, if we start ignoring Blazinghand, maybe he will go away.

KIIIIIITTTTTAAAAAA

don't ignore me plz

Tell me why you made your first vote
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Meapak_Ziphh
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States6786 Posts
May 20 2014 23:08 GMT
#547
On May 21 2014 08:06 Hapahauli wrote:
Can we stop troll voting and talk about someone that's actually scummy?
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On May 21 2014 07:54 Hapahauli wrote:
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@ Everyone

Let's kill Valenius:
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On May 21 2014 06:22 Valenius wrote:
9 player day 1's normally confuse me. gg.

On May 21 2014 06:24 Valenius wrote:
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On May 21 2014 06:22 Koshi wrote:
On May 21 2014 06:22 Valenius wrote:
9 player day 1's normally confuse me. gg.

Sheep me sheeping marv.
ezgame ezlife.


i thought you were hosting. wtf.

##vote: Koshi

On May 21 2014 06:29 Valenius wrote:
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On May 21 2014 06:28 Koshi wrote:
On May 21 2014 06:27 Koshi wrote:
On May 21 2014 06:24 Valenius wrote:
On May 21 2014 06:22 Koshi wrote:
On May 21 2014 06:22 Valenius wrote:
9 player day 1's normally confuse me. gg.

Sheep me sheeping marv.
ezgame ezlife.


i thought you were hosting. wtf.

##vote: Koshi

Even though I am a divine being in this game. I ascended and joined the plebs. I don't have anything against plebs though, they are simple but amusing beings. I allow the smartest of them to call me Koshi. You can call me Master.

I might have meant descended. It is just hard for me to grasp going downwards.


It was such a nice post, I wasn't going to correct it for you.

On May 21 2014 06:50 Valenius wrote:
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On May 21 2014 06:49 Yell0w wrote:
So about this whole RNG thing, aren't scum players more likely to vote for OdinofPergo if he isn't in their faction since they don't even need a reason to vote him? They can just claim they're doing it for RNG and get a lynch on someone who isn't aligned with them?

Wouldn't a better way be to each claim we are RNG voting, then use the RNG on the post in which we claimed it and then vote for whomever our own post said? So that there is no way to know if you're going to lynch someone of your own faction or not so it's riskier for scum to go by RNG? Maybe I'm completely wrong here.


I like that, I haven't thought it through - But I like it.

RNG V2


On May 21 2014 06:52 Valenius wrote:
Actually, won't it cause the same theoretical situation, just with votes more spread?

On May 21 2014 07:44 Valenius wrote:
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On May 21 2014 07:42 kitaman27 wrote:
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On May 21 2014 06:17 27ninjabunnies wrote:
I'd lynch HF in a heartbeat if he aligned with mafia.


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On May 21 2014 06:23 27ninjabunnies wrote:
Oh I'd lynch tamburini in a heartbeat regardless of his alignment.


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On May 21 2014 07:23 27ninjabunnies wrote:
I'd lynch him in a heartbeat.


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On May 21 2014 07:28 WaveofShadow wrote:
Sorry HF you've broken my heart too many times.


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On May 21 2014 07:33 Xatalos wrote:
Why this change of heart?


[image loading]

Chalis (ハート Heart) is an antagonist in Golden Sun: Dark Dawn. Together with Blados, she is one of the commanders of a secretive military nation named Tuaparang.

All three are bad guys taunting us in the thread. I rest my case.


LOL

##unvoted koshi btw
On May 21 2014 07:48 Valenius wrote:
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On May 21 2014 07:47 Holyflare wrote:
On May 21 2014 07:45 Steveling wrote:
On May 21 2014 07:43 Holyflare wrote:
On May 21 2014 07:36 marvellosity wrote:
Xatalos, I really have no idea, nor do I care, because I don't particularly strive to be consistent from game to game. Honestly the fact that you're beating away at this makes you look kinda better though, so maybe I'll unvote you if I'm feeling nice

On May 21 2014 07:32 Holyflare wrote:
yes please do

##unvote
##vote steveling


You do realise, though, that Steve's semi-ridiculous behaviour makes it less likely he's mafia though, yes? (or traditional mafia. I'm just gonna say town for town and mafia for all the other factions until something tells me otherwise)

On May 21 2014 07:20 Holyflare wrote:
if you're gonna play like last game i will actually policy lynch you and i honestly don't care


despite me being scum in the game he was talking about we literally only won because he was doing what he was doing as town and was an easy mislynch so i'm just going to get rid of him until he learns


Yes you literally only won because of my bad play as town right?
Not because NO ONE, LITERALLY NO ONE VOTED FOR A SCUM IN ALL 3 DAYS.

Oh wait, except me.


^^^ case in point


anyway bh if you take out newbie games towns recently have a 40%+ chance of finding mafia day 1 by lynching and so it's obv far better not to rng


If you add in newbie games, we just lynch town/any claimed power roles. ezpz


6 posts, all of them a mixture of "+1'ing" other people and irrelevant comments. His filter reads a lot like someone who's artificially trying to insert himself in discussion.

##Vote: Valenius

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Meapak_Ziphh
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States6786 Posts
May 20 2014 23:20 GMT
#570
k HF and Steve both of you need to shut the fuck up.

Make a case and then leave for a bit to cool off.

Kita your response only gave me a semi :/
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Meapak_Ziphh
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States6786 Posts
May 20 2014 23:26 GMT
#575
On May 21 2014 08:22 Blazinghand wrote:
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On May 21 2014 08:19 Tehpoofter wrote:
On May 21 2014 08:12 Blazinghand wrote:
On May 21 2014 08:11 Tehpoofter wrote:
On May 21 2014 08:04 Blazinghand wrote:
On May 21 2014 08:01 Tehpoofter wrote:
On May 21 2014 07:50 Blazinghand wrote:
On May 21 2014 07:47 Holyflare wrote:
On May 21 2014 07:45 Steveling wrote:
On May 21 2014 07:43 Holyflare wrote:
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despite me being scum in the game he was talking about we literally only won because he was doing what he was doing as town and was an easy mislynch so i'm just going to get rid of him until he learns


Yes you literally only won because of my bad play as town right?
Not because NO ONE, LITERALLY NO ONE VOTED FOR A SCUM IN ALL 3 DAYS.

Oh wait, except me.


^^^ case in point


anyway bh if you take out newbie games towns recently have a 40%+ chance of finding mafia day 1 by lynching and so it's obv far better not to rng


And if this game had no newbies in it, I'd take your statistics under advisement. Also in games like 7 town 2 scum (which it ypically use) you'd expect a 25% chance of getting scum anyways, 40% is pretty close.

On May 21 2014 07:47 Tehpoofter wrote:
On May 21 2014 07:43 Blazinghand wrote:
On May 21 2014 07:39 marvellosity wrote:
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As you're probably well aware, I've never RNGed, never supported RNG, and never will. Draw your own conclusions :p


I know you disagree with me philosophically about the usefulness of RNG, I just figured maybe in a massively multifactional setup you might find it alluring. Well, next time then!

On May 21 2014 07:39 Meapak_Ziphh wrote:
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Actually yeah, I'm not even gonna argue with you. I play mafia for fun and us all picking an RNG then sitting back and seeing what happens doesn't seem fun to me. Plus I at least have enough faith in my own deduction and reasoning skills to think that I have just as good a chance of finding scum with analysis as RNG does.


Ok, so that's a reason. I will note though that historically, TL towns tend not to statistically significantly outperform RNG on D1. I'm not proposing RNG for no reason; I think lynching OdinofPergo is our best chance today. If nothing else, I guarantee that pulling this off will have two results

1) it will be legendary
2) it will cause a massive shitstorm because everyone hates RNG. this shitstorm will give us lots of things to base reads off of for D2


What reads do you hope to garner? Like based upon the lynch of Odin? Like who defends/pushes him? Why not just do that on someone who actually does something scummy. I think that I'd rather lose to being bad that win to RNG... I'm not playing a slot machine I'm playing mafia. RNG is bad and you should feel bad.


Why not someone else? Because RNG. RNG is the best and I feel good.



Obviously you don't really believe in the strategy. If someone thinks they're not better than RNG then they should just vote and leave the thread and come back in 48 hours and see how they did. But you clearly said you think you're a good player aka better than RNG so you don't even believe in an RNG lynch.

And I'm going to vote on who I think is scummy. Hopefully its right but even if its wrong then I will be happy that I had some influence over it and not just randomness Last time I'm commenting on this btw as its silly and unhelpful to town.


I'm the best player in TL Mafia and I believe in RNG lynch because it's objectively the best tool. The definition of being a good player is basically using RNG lynch, in a setup like this. You don't just vote randomly and leave the thread, because most people don't do RNG lynch. You make sure everyone else follows you too. By your logic, if I have a scumread on someone, I should just vote them and leave the thread, my job is done.

Typical poof.



So lets say we had an RNG shot and a lynch. BUT you could only base one on RNG. Who do you find scummy in this thread so far that you would have to way in on for the non-RNG portion?


We don't have an RNg shot and a lynch though, we just have a lynch. Let's RNG it.


Dodging productive questions is dumb and scummy and you know it.

##Vote: Blazinghand

Contribute or die.


You think a newbie like you has a snowball's chance in hell of pushing a lynch on a vet like me? How cute

BH I know you're not dying but from someone who started playing before you did, turn down the douche on the vet status.
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Meapak_Ziphh
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States6786 Posts
May 21 2014 10:32 GMT
#1135
Yo its late but I stayed up to read the read when I got home. I need some rest but right now I find myself really liking what both Geript and Cephiro have to say. I hate ninjab's thrawn case, he's lynchbait and it seems like a desperate attempt on her part to take aim at low hanging fruit in an attempt to appear protown after being called out.

I would love to see more attention paid to Vilenius because that dude has not gotten any better since I first called him out.

Also Wave bro, ilu but stop throwing your vet status around like a shield, it doesn't look good. I've tried it, I know it's fun, but more often than not I did it when I was scum and used it as a crutch defense. I'm just not getting the best vibe and it makes me sad, man . Koshi and Marv are doing the same thing but I don't <3 them like I <3 wave so idgaf if they're scum.

Bout to pass out, night kiddos,
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Meapak_Ziphh
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States6786 Posts
May 21 2014 21:28 GMT
#1560
So I'd be down with a layabout lynch but I'd much prefer Val. His big post was complete shit as it established no reads and falls into my old favorite category "contributing without contributing" which for those who have not played with me and heard me harp on it is where scum make great big posts about how they feel about certain people but by the end you realize you didn't learn anything new and they were either rehashing what others had said or wishy washy calling people town.

Also BH, I need you to repeat after me "I am not as good at mafia as I think I am."

Do that three times, get up from your computer spin around counter clockwise, spit over your left shoulder and sit down.

Also ya'll are some spammy motherfuckers, steve and co. are making me wish I had a gun.
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Meapak_Ziphh
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States6786 Posts
May 21 2014 21:44 GMT
#1569
On May 22 2014 06:31 austinmcc wrote:
MZ I guess same questions above to you. Quick look at Kitamang for me?

I've actually prodded kita several times if you take a look at my filter. I have been mostly just disappointed tbh. Now I've single handedly caught scumkita before and he looked a lot different than this but then again that was probably 2 years ago now and I don't have a strong recollection of any scum games he's played since then (I blame my own inactivity). When I asked him about his initial vote, I was hoping for a lot stronger of a reason because I had actually agreed with it at the time. Instead kita was meh and played it off like no big deal. I didn't really like that interaction and his subsequent lack of caring about the game is a irritating.

I guess ultimately it comes down to this: I'm used to scumkita playing very differently but his current filter leaves a lot to be desired. I'd rather not lynch him today in hopes that he's just busy atm but if he continues to be useless I have no excuses for him.
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Meapak_Ziphh
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States6786 Posts
May 21 2014 21:48 GMT
#1570
On May 22 2014 06:30 Blazinghand wrote:
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On May 22 2014 06:28 Meapak_Ziphh wrote:
Also BH, I need you to repeat after me "I am not as good at mafia as I think I am."


MZ is not as good at mafia as he thinks he is.
MZ is not as good at mafia as he thinks he is.
MZ is not as good at mafia as he thinks he is.


So I know out of game bets in order to advance an agenda are against the rules but can we have a bet on the outcome of an action in game?

I'd like to have a sig bet, if you get Odin lynched (regardless of his alignment) I'll change my sig to whatever you want for a month but if you don't get Odin lynched you have to change your sig to "Vet status does not = god status: I am not as good at mafia as I think I am" for a month.

Sound reasonable to you?
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Meapak_Ziphh
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States6786 Posts
May 21 2014 22:20 GMT
#1617
On May 22 2014 07:17 Blazinghand wrote:
Also if odin is shot by town it's a draw

I can't be forced to vote for him, that'd break the rules of an outside bet influencing the game, but I agree to a draw if he's shot by the town.

I will certainly vote him if I think he's scum which at the moment I think there are other people who I've previously discussed who are better choices.
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Meapak_Ziphh
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States6786 Posts
May 21 2014 22:20 GMT
#1619
On May 22 2014 07:20 Meapak_Ziphh wrote:
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On May 22 2014 07:17 Blazinghand wrote:
Also if odin is shot by town it's a draw

I can't be forced to vote for him, that'd break the rules of an outside bet influencing the game, but I agree to a draw if he's shot by the town.

I will certainly vote him if I think he's scum which at the moment I think there are other people who I've previously discussed who are better choices.

EBWOP
Also draw if he's shot by scum?
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Meapak_Ziphh
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States6786 Posts
May 21 2014 22:32 GMT
#1632
On May 22 2014 07:26 geript wrote:
Your return does not make my peepee hard Slam. I'm very unconvinced.

I just read slam's filter and this post was the only one I found that had substantial content:
On May 21 2014 15:05 Alakaslam wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 21 2014 14:58 Tehpoofter wrote:
On May 21 2014 14:57 Alakaslam wrote:
On May 21 2014 14:49 Tehpoofter wrote:
On May 21 2014 14:48 Alakaslam wrote:
On May 21 2014 14:43 Tehpoofter wrote:
On May 21 2014 14:40 Alakaslam wrote:
I am sort of but not long. Just finished making the newbie sorry kita


IS geript right? Why is he wrong?

Do you have reads on Yellow? Hf/Steve? Austin aka ABBA? Cephs case on bunnies? Bunnies case on thrawn?

He isn't because I am town and sometimes I feel like reading the game to further enhance my trolling/joking around and because I do actually enjoy thinking about whether or not something is alignment indicative.



KK can you answer the other stuff if you're reading

What other stuff?



On May 21 2014 14:43 Tehpoofter wrote:
On May 21 2014 14:40 Alakaslam wrote:
I am sort of but not long. Just finished making the newbie sorry kita


IS geript right? Why is he wrong?

Do you have reads on Yellow? Hf/Steve? Austin aka ABBA? Cephs case on bunnies? Bunnies case on thrawn?

Haven't even seen yellow, HF null, Steve town, Austin town, you see me talking about CEPHIRO I am trying to find out, haven't even seen anything NJB said except in CEPHIRO quote

Slam's got some seriously weak ass shit going on right now, I think people should really reread his filter and not dismiss him as easily.
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Meapak_Ziphh
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States6786 Posts
May 21 2014 22:33 GMT
#1634
To anyone in the thread, is this usual for slam? Because his whole filter feels like contrived crazy trying to get people to ignore him or dismiss him as too dumb for scum.
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Meapak_Ziphh
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States6786 Posts
May 21 2014 22:34 GMT
#1635
On May 22 2014 07:32 WaveofShadow wrote:
This would be such an amazing game to be scum.
Somebody besides Austin give me something to do mebbe?
I dunno I feel like a dumb American watching a game of cricket right now.

Hey Wave I have something for you, pick up your game
You've made me so sad so far
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Meapak_Ziphh
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States6786 Posts
May 21 2014 22:34 GMT
#1637
oh lel that was 5k
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Meapak_Ziphh
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States6786 Posts
May 21 2014 22:48 GMT
#1651
@BH: it's only supposed to be for D1, the point is since you're such a mafia god it shouldn't be too hard to get your primary only scum read lynched, especially now that you've claimed and are clearly, totally innocent.

On May 22 2014 07:37 WaveofShadow wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 22 2014 07:34 Meapak_Ziphh wrote:
On May 22 2014 07:32 WaveofShadow wrote:
This would be such an amazing game to be scum.
Somebody besides Austin give me something to do mebbe?
I dunno I feel like a dumb American watching a game of cricket right now.

Hey Wave I have something for you, pick up your game
You've made me so sad so far

Yay I was mentioned in a 5k post!

I dunno I'm legit having a shit time right now. What have you got besides memorializing me forever in your milestone post?

Who are the serious candidates right now that I should look into? I feel like layabout is one of them but to me that essentially amounts to lurker lynch I thinks. Who else?

People I think could definitely be red:
Layabout
Val

People I don't have good feelings about:
Slam
Bunnies

One of these three is probably red but I don't feel like figuring it out atm:
Steve
HF
Hapa

Look at these people wave, that should give you something at least.
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Meapak_Ziphh
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States6786 Posts
May 21 2014 22:49 GMT
#1652
fuck I forgot BH, he's done nothing this game except say we should lynch odin because the magic 8 ball said so and talk about how he's never gonna get lynched because he's a turbo vet.

You can look at him too Wave
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Meapak_Ziphh
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States6786 Posts
May 22 2014 00:17 GMT
#1759
tbh I'm almost ready for steve to die so that I don't have to see him post anymore

@Kita, all sqrt had done was make lame setup comments and made one nonsensical vote. In my mind at that stage in the game that's a lot better reasoning to vote someone than some of the other reasons for voting people had provided. I had been hoping you'd come out and stand by your reasoning at the time but instead what happened was you tried to minimize it which just felt really off to me.

It's less about your reasoning for voting and more about the way you defended the vote. Like if you were that meh about it why make it in the first place.
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Meapak_Ziphh
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States6786 Posts
May 22 2014 00:20 GMT
#1763
On May 22 2014 09:09 27ninjabunnies wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 22 2014 09:05 Steveling wrote:
Also fu guys, now I'm in srs mode.
Y u do dis? I was having fun.


You can still have fun!!!!


I don't remember spongebob having that much blatant innuendo...
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Meapak_Ziphh
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States6786 Posts
May 22 2014 00:21 GMT
#1766
On May 22 2014 09:19 Holyflare wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 22 2014 08:02 Holyflare wrote:
On May 22 2014 07:48 Meapak_Ziphh wrote:
@BH: it's only supposed to be for D1, the point is since you're such a mafia god it shouldn't be too hard to get your primary only scum read lynched, especially now that you've claimed and are clearly, totally innocent.

On May 22 2014 07:37 WaveofShadow wrote:
On May 22 2014 07:34 Meapak_Ziphh wrote:
On May 22 2014 07:32 WaveofShadow wrote:
This would be such an amazing game to be scum.
Somebody besides Austin give me something to do mebbe?
I dunno I feel like a dumb American watching a game of cricket right now.

Hey Wave I have something for you, pick up your game
You've made me so sad so far

Yay I was mentioned in a 5k post!

I dunno I'm legit having a shit time right now. What have you got besides memorializing me forever in your milestone post?

Who are the serious candidates right now that I should look into? I feel like layabout is one of them but to me that essentially amounts to lurker lynch I thinks. Who else?

People I think could definitely be red:
Layabout
Val

People I don't have good feelings about:
Slam
Bunnies

One of these three is probably red but I don't feel like figuring it out atm:
Steve
HF
Hapa


Look at these people wave, that should give you something at least.


can you explain this crazy unexplained thing?


Simple, ya'll have been pretty aggressively shitting up the thread (or at least it seems that way to me) and I figure one of you is probably scum. Time will sort it out so I'm not going lynch hunting in that clusterfuck right now.
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Meapak_Ziphh
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States6786 Posts
May 22 2014 02:27 GMT
#1854
On May 22 2014 11:18 austinmcc wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 22 2014 11:15 Holyflare wrote:
Austin what do you make of mz saying there's a red between me/hapa/steve because we're the ones shitting up the thread?
I think that MZ is giving short shrift to the other thread shitters or attempted-thread-shitters.

Actually upon further review of the play hapa is ok, I think I was mixing him up with someone else.

On the other hand, I find your defensiveness on this subject rather interesting HF. I didn't call you scum specifically, I only mentioned that one of you three probably was. None of the other two jumped on it.
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Meapak_Ziphh
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States6786 Posts
May 22 2014 02:29 GMT
#1857
my my my HF this is an unexpected surprise to see you all up in arms over this.
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Meapak_Ziphh
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States6786 Posts
May 22 2014 02:32 GMT
#1860
On May 22 2014 11:28 Holyflare wrote:
so why does mz have such a warped view of the thread then? can you explain that?

My friend you have an 11 page filter, no matter how you slice it there is truth to what I'm saying about you shitting up the thread. Whether you are scum or not is something I wasn't even going to get into today but since my poke has got you all riled up (which if you read my post is literally the weakest accusation I've made this game since it doesn't concretely point someone out), I suppose we can have this little dance today.
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Meapak_Ziphh
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States6786 Posts
May 22 2014 02:37 GMT
#1868
On May 22 2014 11:30 Holyflare wrote:
up in arms? it's the opposite of defensive by the way, it's aggro at you for being so out-of-touch from the game

My dear Divine Blaze, you are the very definition of defensive right now, I hardly called you out and you responded. If my accusation was as baseless as you claim you could have just let it go. I didn't even go after you in particular but you felt threatened.
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Meapak_Ziphh
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States6786 Posts
May 22 2014 02:40 GMT
#1875
On May 22 2014 11:36 Holyflare wrote:
i don't think many scum people have high pages of filter of active participation so i'm wondering why that's a legitimate heuristic for mz to have

Dude
Dude
Have you ever played mafia before? It's more than possible for scum to have large filters, and spammy and shitting up the thread is a legitimate scum tactic.

Just because you're active doesn't mean what you are contributing is valuable or even helpful.
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Meapak_Ziphh
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States6786 Posts
May 22 2014 02:46 GMT
#1881
On May 22 2014 11:38 Holyflare wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 22 2014 11:37 Meapak_Ziphh wrote:
On May 22 2014 11:30 Holyflare wrote:
up in arms? it's the opposite of defensive by the way, it's aggro at you for being so out-of-touch from the game

My dear Divine Blaze, you are the very definition of defensive right now, I hardly called you out and you responded. If my accusation was as baseless as you claim you could have just let it go. I didn't even go after you in particular but you felt threatened.


no i'm not threatened i'm leaving no stone unturned and think you could easily be mafia for having no idea what's going on to be in the mind to even add that to a post of who you would lynch

ohhh not a good post at all.

First off you're OMGUSing. But more importantly, "leaving no stone unturned" is not actually protown in my experience because it shows an inherent guilt because you feel the need to defend yourself from every little thing. It's a scum mindset :/
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Meapak_Ziphh
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States6786 Posts
May 22 2014 02:50 GMT
#1885
Hey Kita, I understand you'd rather me not pursue this HF thing right now but his responses have piqued my interests. Since you're here, why don't you give me some suggestions of who else I could look at.
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Meapak_Ziphh
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States6786 Posts
May 22 2014 02:55 GMT
#1892
On May 22 2014 11:49 Holyflare wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 22 2014 11:46 Meapak_Ziphh wrote:
On May 22 2014 11:38 Holyflare wrote:
On May 22 2014 11:37 Meapak_Ziphh wrote:
On May 22 2014 11:30 Holyflare wrote:
up in arms? it's the opposite of defensive by the way, it's aggro at you for being so out-of-touch from the game

My dear Divine Blaze, you are the very definition of defensive right now, I hardly called you out and you responded. If my accusation was as baseless as you claim you could have just let it go. I didn't even go after you in particular but you felt threatened.


no i'm not threatened i'm leaving no stone unturned and think you could easily be mafia for having no idea what's going on to be in the mind to even add that to a post of who you would lynch

ohhh not a good post at all.

First off you're OMGUSing. But more importantly, "leaving no stone unturned" is not actually protown in my experience because it shows an inherent guilt because you feel the need to defend yourself from every little thing. It's a scum mindset :/


well then you need to rethink your scum mindsets there buddy and learn how i play the game

See unlike some people in this game I'm not gonna pretend that I'm such a great mafia player I can tell how someone else thinks. However the way you reacted has not looked good at all for you. Furthermore your OMGUS makes it look even worse. I don't really care how you play tbh, if your play is scummy though I'm gonna have to poke further.
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Meapak_Ziphh
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States6786 Posts
May 22 2014 02:56 GMT
#1894
On May 22 2014 11:51 Holyflare wrote:
no absolutely you go after me if you think i'm scum, don't drop it because a player whose alignment you have no idea about asks you to look elsewhere

lol a) who said I'm going after you and b) who said I'm gonna stop poking you
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Meapak_Ziphh
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States6786 Posts
May 22 2014 03:02 GMT
#1901
Mafia Acronyms 101:
OMGUS - Oh My God You Suck.

-An OMGUS vote means a player vote another player simply because that player voted him - a vote back.

Use in context: "Meapak suggested that HF might be scum so HF turned around and suggested that Meapak was scum for saying HF might be scum."

Source: http://wiki.epicmafia.com/index.php?title=OMGUS
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Meapak_Ziphh
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States6786 Posts
May 22 2014 03:12 GMT
#1910
On May 22 2014 11:58 kitaman27 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 22 2014 11:50 Meapak_Ziphh wrote:
Hey Kita, I understand you'd rather me not pursue this HF thing right now but his responses have piqued my interests. Since you're here, why don't you give me some suggestions of who else I could look at.


Take your pick out of these four.

Valenius
Wave
poofter
BlueyD

Well you already know my opinions on Wave and Val

Here's my opinion on BlueyD:
On May 21 2014 10:53 BlueyD wrote:
Wasn't so convinced by the case on Valenius when I read it. His posts weren't pretend-contributions of the scummy type, they were just obviously irrelevant.
[...]


On May 21 2014 13:36 BlueyD wrote:
Ehhhh I'm back.

Don't like the case on bunnies, I feel like Ceph is stretching it.
[...]


On May 21 2014 13:56 BlueyD wrote:
I don’t like that the case on mtamburini seems to rely on a single post. It’s a really bad post due to format and scope, but the rest of the filter reads okay.
[...]


On May 22 2014 09:58 BlueyD wrote:
[...]

Ritoky: I just don’t see a case for a lynch on him right now. There are better targets. The case by austin was bad, and his reads feel honest.

Austin: One bad case, but he retracted it really quickly once some stuff was cleared up, so not much there. Mehhhh. I pretty much don’t have a good read on this guy.

Vale: There’s really only one post to analyse here, and half of it is fluff. His townreads are yellow and bkq (and bh? I dunno, the wording made it sound really weak) which is just weird to me. His only scum read is “Light shades of pink” on cav. Come on... Going to just count this as a pretend-to-help-town post since there's nothing in it I really like. On the scummy side.



I gotta be honest I have a huge problem with people who do stuff like this. Sure BlueyD has also said he finds Yellow and Tamburini lynch worthy, however there is no time spent pushing these reads. I have no idea why BlueyD's meta is but I could be swayed to a lynch on him today.
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Meapak_Ziphh
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States6786 Posts
May 22 2014 03:16 GMT
#1918
On May 22 2014 12:05 Holyflare wrote:
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/mafia/440546-golden-sun-the-lost-age-mafia-djinn-edition?page=93#1852

here is the post where i call it scummy before you've even returned

Dude your post is literally in response to a question about me calling you possible scum. That's about as textbook as it gets lol.
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Meapak_Ziphh
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States6786 Posts
May 22 2014 03:18 GMT
#1925
On May 22 2014 12:16 Holyflare wrote:
What question....?

You asked austin what he thought about me calling one of you/hapa/steve scum. Read what you post -_-

I'm done with this for now, it's not going anywhere and I need outside opinions so I don't get caught in an echo chamber.
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Meapak_Ziphh
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States6786 Posts
May 22 2014 03:47 GMT
#1954
um austin shiaopi is the host...
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Meapak_Ziphh
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States6786 Posts
May 22 2014 04:02 GMT
#1969
On May 22 2014 12:53 WaveofShadow wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 22 2014 12:45 Holyflare wrote:
or wave idk

It was me, I think you wanted me to talk about why i think BH is town.

Essentially, as scum BH is way more arrogant, and way more shit-up-the-thread-happy. Maybe the recent game wasn't a good example because he was traitor and didn't know who scum was, but scum BH always actually scumhunts (or at least fakes it).

This RNG discussion is shitting up the thread to some degree but not in the same way, and BH is being more or less completely useless, something he is way more likely to do as town and simply lie down and get lynched for (probably to preserve some sort of meta or whatever). I've seen him play this exact same way as town and I've lynched him for it once and tried to another time I believe.

Just seems way more likely to me that BH is town here. It is of course entirely possible he's playing to his meta for this reason and is something I wouldn't put past BH, and the roleclaim is fairly bewildering, but I believe marv said that's pretty par for the course as far as BH goes.

Would not lynch today at the very least, town at the very most.

I gotta be honest, the way you describe BH's scum behavior is exactly the way he's acting this game. It's not like you to miss something like that.

Goddammit wave
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Meapak_Ziphh
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States6786 Posts
May 22 2014 04:07 GMT
#1976
On May 22 2014 13:04 WaveofShadow wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 22 2014 13:02 Meapak_Ziphh wrote:
On May 22 2014 12:53 WaveofShadow wrote:
On May 22 2014 12:45 Holyflare wrote:
or wave idk

It was me, I think you wanted me to talk about why i think BH is town.

Essentially, as scum BH is way more arrogant, and way more shit-up-the-thread-happy. Maybe the recent game wasn't a good example because he was traitor and didn't know who scum was, but scum BH always actually scumhunts (or at least fakes it).

This RNG discussion is shitting up the thread to some degree but not in the same way, and BH is being more or less completely useless, something he is way more likely to do as town and simply lie down and get lynched for (probably to preserve some sort of meta or whatever). I've seen him play this exact same way as town and I've lynched him for it once and tried to another time I believe.

Just seems way more likely to me that BH is town here. It is of course entirely possible he's playing to his meta for this reason and is something I wouldn't put past BH, and the roleclaim is fairly bewildering, but I believe marv said that's pretty par for the course as far as BH goes.

Would not lynch today at the very least, town at the very most.

I gotta be honest, the way you describe BH's scum behavior is exactly the way he's acting this game. It's not like you to miss something like that.

Goddammit wave

MZ compare this to Carnival Cruise. I caught BH in Ver's game and it's night and day. This game is more like Thug Life.

The claim and the fact that BH is often hyper-aware of his own meta muddles things a bit but I do not for a second believe what I said is wrong.

Ok. I wasn't in any of those games but the fact that you've actually given me concrete examples warms my heart considerably.

I still think BH is worthless but at least your position on him makes sense.
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Meapak_Ziphh
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States6786 Posts
May 22 2014 05:30 GMT
#2030
On May 22 2014 14:20 geript wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 22 2014 14:16 Steveling wrote:
There's a pretty strong bus riding burini.
Although I expressed quite early that I find her scummy I don't like where this is going.

How do you know burini is scum bro? Can't be a bus without burini being scum.

Tking out the editorial flare that geript gave his post he actually has a decent point, why are you calling burini a bus? That implies you think/know burini is scum and you suspect/know other scum are on the list voting for her.
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Meapak_Ziphh
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States6786 Posts
May 22 2014 05:47 GMT
#2044
ah BH bbz I'm glad you're around. In a shocking turn of events that nobody could have ever predicted, the Odin train does not seem to be leaving the station. With that in mind, give me three names who aren't Odin who are scum.

gogo I believe in you turbo vet
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+ Show Spoiler +
it's a turbo 'vette
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Meapak_Ziphh
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States6786 Posts
May 22 2014 05:56 GMT
#2048
On May 22 2014 14:52 Blazinghand wrote:
Man who'd put a turbo on a vette? A big engine like that can be NA. There is no replacement for displacement.


Show nested quote +
On May 22 2014 14:42 Holyflare wrote:
On May 22 2014 14:38 Blazinghand wrote:


your profile is insane


Glad u like it

Brb dinner

Get your ass back in here and contribute... and speaking of ass:
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Meapak_Ziphh
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States6786 Posts
May 22 2014 05:58 GMT
#2051
On May 22 2014 14:56 Blazinghand wrote:
*silence as everyone reads my glorious profile*

That silence could be filled by you posting equally glorious reads...
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Meapak_Ziphh
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States6786 Posts
May 22 2014 06:41 GMT
#2060
Clearly it's time for more mafia terms with meapak

Mafia Acronyms 102:
Bus (Bussing)

-Bussing is when a mafia member backstabs a fellow mafia to get the trust of the town, usually by supporting (and possibly even leading) a lynch against his fellow mafia.

Use in context: "Steveling knew that tamburini was scum and when he saw the people voting for her, he knew it was a bus."

Source: http://wiki.epicmafia.com/index.php?title=Bus
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Meapak_Ziphh
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States6786 Posts
May 22 2014 06:43 GMT
#2062
HF and steve are both misusing/trying to manipulate basic mafia terminology and I don't know whether to laugh or cry. You boys should take your beef back to the newbie games for a bit.
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Meapak_Ziphh
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States6786 Posts
May 22 2014 06:46 GMT
#2065
Mafia terms with meapak

Mafia Acronyms 103
Bandwagon (Bandwagoning)

-A bandwagon occurs, when someone decides to vote someone during the day phase as their lynch target, and the whole town follows, without having substantial evidence.

Use in context: "Steveling thought that the votes on Tamburini were a bandwagon and not a bus like he had previously stated."

Source: http://wiki.epicmafia.com/index.php?title=Bandwagon
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Meapak_Ziphh
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States6786 Posts
May 22 2014 06:51 GMT
#2067
On May 22 2014 15:44 Steveling wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 22 2014 15:43 Meapak_Ziphh wrote:
HF and steve are both misusing/trying to manipulate basic mafia terminology and I don't know whether to laugh or cry. You boys should take your beef back to the newbie games for a bit.


Ey I'm newbie I don't deny it, that's basically my 2nd town game.

Ok didn't know. Look dude, in that case lemme give you some free advice, take it for what it's worth I'm not trying to be condescending. It's not always necessary to be the guy doing the talking and if someone starts shit with you often times the towniest thing to do is give a response and walk away. Several times filter length has been mentioned and I'll say this; baring very few exceptions, the best, towniest players are not the guys with the longest filters.

/soapbox
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Meapak_Ziphh
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States6786 Posts
May 22 2014 06:52 GMT
#2069
On May 22 2014 15:41 Blazinghand wrote:
RIP Kenpachi

BH if you don't wanna hunt scum then give me 1 one (1) good reason not to lynch you. Remember that's one (1) good reason, it should be easier than the three (3) good scum reads I asked for.
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Meapak_Ziphh
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States6786 Posts
May 22 2014 06:55 GMT
#2071
On May 22 2014 15:51 OnceKing wrote:
so which is it, is he trying to manipulate it or is he misusing it?

Honestly I'll buy the newbie excuse with him. He had been talking a big game and shit earlier so I assumed he had at least played more but if this is really his second time I can see where the mistake would happen. HF on the other hand is manipulating because he is more experienced and is being intentionally thick but w/e, because of the general feel of the thread I've dropped that for now.
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Meapak_Ziphh
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States6786 Posts
May 22 2014 06:58 GMT
#2073
On May 22 2014 15:53 Steveling wrote:
Alright then.
But then what should I do if someone is talking shit?

Let them. Who gives a fuck it's online mafia. If they're making rational arguments and you're town then you should be able to refute them, if you're scum well good luck, sometimes you argue your way out sometimes you don't. But if the person coming after you sounds like a madman then nobody will listen and everyone will probably think that person is scummy. But if you think the person is a madman and everyone else is agreeing with them I'll give you a hint, it's probably not them it's you.
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Meapak_Ziphh
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States6786 Posts
May 22 2014 07:05 GMT
#2079
On May 22 2014 16:04 WaveofShadow wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 22 2014 16:02 Steveling wrote:
On May 22 2014 15:58 Meapak_Ziphh wrote:
On May 22 2014 15:53 Steveling wrote:
Alright then.
But then what should I do if someone is talking shit?

Let them. Who gives a fuck it's online mafia. If they're making rational arguments and you're town then you should be able to refute them, if you're scum well good luck, sometimes you argue your way out sometimes you don't. But if the person coming after you sounds like a madman then nobody will listen and everyone will probably think that person is scummy. But if you think the person is a madman and everyone else is agreeing with them I'll give you a hint, it's probably not them it's you.



Alright, thanks for the advice.
Why can't more veterans be like you or palmar?

PALMAR?
LOL

I wasn't going to say anything
But yeah
I'm pretty sure Palmar is one of the founders of our current meta which is always oh so civil and lovely.
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Meapak_Ziphh
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States6786 Posts
May 22 2014 07:13 GMT
#2081
Wave can you stay awake for like 5 mins?
I have a quick line of questioning I need you to answer and I want fast responses from you.
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Meapak_Ziphh
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States6786 Posts
May 22 2014 07:40 GMT
#2092
On May 22 2014 16:35 Blazinghand wrote:
I'm fine lynching geript

It took you two hours to come up with this?
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Meapak_Ziphh
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States6786 Posts
May 22 2014 07:43 GMT
#2095
On May 22 2014 16:42 Blazinghand wrote:
Ok vr ddjbb err brb.
C
Bo 63 odin. What has he done for towbn. Why would he invite me. He's proof dc in scum. Ring worked

I don't buy this bullshit at all BH. My patience is running thin.
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Meapak_Ziphh
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States6786 Posts
May 22 2014 07:46 GMT
#2097
On May 22 2014 16:45 Blazinghand wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 22 2014 16:43 Meapak_Ziphh wrote:
On May 22 2014 16:42 Blazinghand wrote:
Ok vr ddjbb err brb.
C
Bo 63 odin. What has he done for towbn. Why would he invite me. He's proof dc in scum. Ring worked

I don't buy this bullshit at all BH. My patience is running thin.


Isaaaaaaaaaac

I actually don't give a fuck, Kita already disproved any role=alignment nonsense.

How badly do you want to test your unlynchable claim?
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Meapak_Ziphh
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States6786 Posts
May 22 2014 07:53 GMT
#2100
Hey geript, you're someone who I've found abrasive and irritating in the past but right now, in this moment I can see you are clearly trying to argue calmly and logically and for that you have my respect.

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Meapak_Ziphh
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States6786 Posts
May 22 2014 13:14 GMT
#2223
Geript I'm down with a BH lynch.
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Meapak_Ziphh
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States6786 Posts
May 22 2014 15:31 GMT
#2282
Geript do you wanna get srs about BH?
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Meapak_Ziphh
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States6786 Posts
May 22 2014 19:51 GMT
#2563
So we're voting the guy who's gonna get modkilled over the guy giving the thread the middle finger? I wasn't sure of mtams alignment until reading these past few pages, look at the difference between Val and Mtam. Val has been open and reasonably helpful. Mtam on the other hand gives nothing good.

Let's let the mods do the work on Odin and lynch Mtam.
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Meapak_Ziphh
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States6786 Posts
May 22 2014 19:52 GMT
#2566
Oh cool, I wrote that post on my phone and people switched while I was writing.
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Meapak_Ziphh
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States6786 Posts
May 22 2014 19:56 GMT
#2584
Have things changed?
No vote used to be a modkill...
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Meapak_Ziphh
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States6786 Posts
May 22 2014 19:58 GMT
#2590
Well lynch looks set.

BH you should have agreed to the bet, you would have won lol
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Meapak_Ziphh
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States6786 Posts
May 22 2014 20:00 GMT
#2597
On May 23 2014 04:59 Blazinghand wrote:
I did it!!!!!!

Should have made the bet lol
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Meapak_Ziphh
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States6786 Posts
May 22 2014 20:06 GMT
#2617
Congrats on a great D1 guys
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Meapak_Ziphh
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States6786 Posts
May 22 2014 20:35 GMT
#2646
What about JAT? He's listed on the player list

And BH if you don't die tonight I'm going to consider that the equivalent of a scum claim.
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Meapak_Ziphh
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States6786 Posts
May 22 2014 20:48 GMT
#2656
On May 23 2014 05:38 Blazinghand wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 23 2014 05:35 Meapak_Ziphh wrote:
What about JAT? He's listed on the player list

And BH if you don't die tonight I'm going to consider that the equivalent of a scum claim.


no you won't

Actually yes I will. If you are somehow town I'd advise you to do as much work as you can to ensure that scum shoot you tonight.
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Meapak_Ziphh
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States6786 Posts
May 22 2014 21:15 GMT
#2673
On May 23 2014 06:07 mtamburini wrote:
So when doing voting histroy and analysis you must keep in mind of that there is more than just town and mafia in this game, a common strategy for mafia generally from what Ive heard (correct me if Im wrong) is to spread out their votes if they can so they all do not look scummy for voting together. Having said that think about the win condtions that the non threatening town aligned people could have.

The limitations for that faction are endless, I was thinking about it while I was at work. What if a win condition was something along the lines of protecting certain players? This could make them look really bad if that person ends up getting lynched and flip scum by assosiation.

Another thing I was thinking about is possible 3rd party win conditions. Correctly lynching/shooting someone from each faction. Or something like killing off an entire faction (town or mafia)

Just something to think about when doing the analysis as this is not a "normal" game

I actually have something to say on this subject as well.

For starters, in order to find scum in the last second vote switches one of the leading candidates has to be scum, so in our case that means Val or Mtam. Now in a game this size, there are usually going to be several scummers who have been lurking along and are going to need to make up bad reasons for why they're not voting for the actual scum. This is where voting analysis usually catches them. However for this game, teams are likely gonna be a lot smaller which means that there will be less scum who are out cold and have to manufacture a reason to vote for the townie.

So why do I bring this up? Because it's dangerous to make cases based solely off of voting patterns in this game. While I'm not clearing any of the people who flipped at the end, I'm saying the case against them needs to encompass more than just their vote. Also another reason I'm bringing this up is that a lot of people who are now trying to do analysis had expressed doubts to the scummyness of Val and Mtam so I'd like to remind them that in order to give scum a reason to last second switch, one of those two has to be red.
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Meapak_Ziphh
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States6786 Posts
May 23 2014 16:34 GMT
#2912
On May 24 2014 01:19 Alakaslam wrote:
Yellow is either an incredibly trusting individual or scum

BlueyD falls into this category as well.
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Meapak_Ziphh
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States6786 Posts
May 23 2014 21:24 GMT
#3250
man fuck that shit
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Meapak_Ziphh
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States6786 Posts
May 26 2014 20:49 GMT
#4834
On May 27 2014 05:46 marvellosity wrote:
Problem is you have 4 mafia on day 1 who won't even be behaving like mafia because they're not a team

that makes the game unbelievably depressing for town to play

I guess this is my overall problem with the game. D1literally is worthless for the town. Don't get me wrong, I enjoyed it and it made me remember how much I enjoy mafia, however I'm glad I died or it would have got really frustrating really fast.
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Meapak_Ziphh
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States6786 Posts
May 26 2014 20:51 GMT
#4840
Also gah I knew HF was scrum from the way he reacted, I just let BH's asshattery distract me.
Forti et Fideli ~ TL Mafia Forum: Come play with us! ~ Go Samsung KHAN, Stork, JangBi , Shine, Grape, and TurN Fighting!~ wat
Meapak_Ziphh
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States6786 Posts
May 26 2014 20:54 GMT
#4849
On May 27 2014 05:52 Holyflare wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 27 2014 05:51 Meapak_Ziphh wrote:
Also gah I knew HF was scrum from the way he reacted, I just let BH's asshattery distract me.


but i technically wasn't scum :o?

Not town then w/e. You still reacted too strongly to someone casually saying you might be scrum.
Forti et Fideli ~ TL Mafia Forum: Come play with us! ~ Go Samsung KHAN, Stork, JangBi , Shine, Grape, and TurN Fighting!~ wat
Meapak_Ziphh
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States6786 Posts
May 26 2014 21:57 GMT
#4884
On May 27 2014 06:45 WaveofShadow wrote:
MZ (or somebody?) needs to host that game from the obs QT. Would play that in a second and I imagine after this game many others would too.

It's Ver's original setup, for anyone interested I'd suggest they read responsibility mafia. I'd be willing to run it although I also want to play it. If I were to run it I'd talk with Ver to make it somewhat different than last time.
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