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I'm gonna /in.
I've never played a game this big before. I'm totally down.
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If I get dayvig'd D1 I want you all to hiplynch Koshi. Don't ask questions just do it.
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omg amiko is here kiss me you fool
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On May 17 2014 04:01 raynpelikoneet wrote:Basically impossible with ~80-90hours of work / week. 
Dude holy shit what do you do for a living?
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Someone pull the big names from that other game.
This looks like it's gonna shape up to be something awesome.
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On May 17 2014 10:41 geript wrote:
Man this player list looks really sketch.
Play a game already wtf.
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On May 19 2014 06:37 Alakaslam wrote:
So? Player or cohost more useful?
Player.
Silly chupazi.
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Not gonna be around for start time. Hope I get my role before then.
:DDD
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On May 20 2014 06:17 ShiaoPi wrote:
Countdown here:
Kush gonna kush.
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On May 21 2014 12:13 sqrtofneg1 wrote:Show nested quote +On May 21 2014 12:12 Holyflare wrote:On May 21 2014 12:09 thrawn2112 wrote:On May 21 2014 12:09 Holyflare wrote:On May 21 2014 12:08 thrawn2112 wrote:
holyflare I need you to clear something up for me sup are you town? ya 3 minutes to say 'ya'. I don't like it. ##Unvote
##Vote: Holyflare
This is a stupid post.
Hi, first post of the game. Just caught up, reads are as follows:
HF: town
Hapa: town
Valenius: scum
Mtam: scum
Sqrt: town
Everyone else is sitting off talking about bullshit that isn't relevant because RNG and also spam. And also BH shouldn't be talking about RNG votes because you way of knowing who initiates the vote and scum is going to have more of a say than you think they will. This is an incredibly bad idea and I say we don't ever follow it.
##Vote: Mtam
I'm probably going to sheep Hapa until one of us dies or until I no longer think he's town. His posts are awesome.
I'll probably have more townreads by the end of the day. I think BH's plan (albeit really bad) gave us a lot of obvious innocents discussing said plan, but I'll probably go back and read it later and see what happened because there's a ton of shit out there right now.
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On May 21 2014 12:20 Holyflare wrote:Show nested quote +On May 21 2014 12:18 thrawn2112 wrote:On May 21 2014 12:16 Holyflare wrote:On May 21 2014 12:14 thrawn2112 wrote:
Why do you think it's obvious that you're town? just more talky/not give a shitty as town i guess? You scum read Cav for accurately meta reading you last game, but you expect people to be correctly meta reading you right now? cav hasn't played enough games with me and just got off of a game where i was scum and he went crazy town read on me which was totally suspicious
You think I haven't, but I have. You're the one player on the site I'm incredibly familiar with and I'm 100% confident I could read you as either alignment.
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On May 21 2014 12:22 thrawn2112 wrote:
cav we're lynching you d1, fucking serious
hey shut up :<
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On May 21 2014 12:24 WaveofShadow wrote:Show nested quote +On May 21 2014 12:23 Cavalinho wrote:On May 21 2014 12:20 Holyflare wrote:On May 21 2014 12:18 thrawn2112 wrote:On May 21 2014 12:16 Holyflare wrote:On May 21 2014 12:14 thrawn2112 wrote:
Why do you think it's obvious that you're town? just more talky/not give a shitty as town i guess? You scum read Cav for accurately meta reading you last game, but you expect people to be correctly meta reading you right now? cav hasn't played enough games with me and just got off of a game where i was scum and he went crazy town read on me which was totally suspicious You think I haven't, but I have. You're the one player on the site I'm incredibly familiar with and I'm 100% confident I could read you as either alignment. Cav. Cav. Cav pls. Enlighten me. What are the secrets to reading Holyflare?
I'll tell you on one condition:
You tell me how to link posts. Deal?
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On May 21 2014 12:27 Holyflare wrote:Show nested quote +On May 21 2014 12:27 Cavalinho wrote:On May 21 2014 12:24 WaveofShadow wrote:On May 21 2014 12:23 Cavalinho wrote:On May 21 2014 12:20 Holyflare wrote:On May 21 2014 12:18 thrawn2112 wrote:On May 21 2014 12:16 Holyflare wrote:On May 21 2014 12:14 thrawn2112 wrote:
Why do you think it's obvious that you're town? just more talky/not give a shitty as town i guess? You scum read Cav for accurately meta reading you last game, but you expect people to be correctly meta reading you right now? cav hasn't played enough games with me and just got off of a game where i was scum and he went crazy town read on me which was totally suspicious You think I haven't, but I have. You're the one player on the site I'm incredibly familiar with and I'm 100% confident I could read you as either alignment. Cav. Cav. Cav pls. Enlighten me. What are the secrets to reading Holyflare? I'll tell you on one condition: You tell me how to link posts. Deal? go to filter and the post you want click the # in top right of post and then just copy the url
Awesome. Guess WoS doesn't need to do it then.
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/mafia/449782-yuma-mini-mafia?page=16#306
Here you go WoS, my meta read from last game.
As for this one, there are a bunch of factions and scum can scumhunt so HF's meta probably won't be super useful until later on down the line. He made good, clean posts this game thus far so he's probably town, but if town takes control and he starts trying to pocket people's votes then we lynch him.
It's a really roundabout way of calling him town but I have no real experience with multifaction games.
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We should either make Cephiro make legible posts or waste him.
I'm not reading that dogshit and I'm pretty sure he did this same kind of garbage zoning off into his own little world in Cell.
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On May 21 2014 12:41 Steveling wrote:Show nested quote +On May 21 2014 12:40 mtamburini wrote:On May 21 2014 11:48 Steveling wrote:On May 21 2014 11:45 Holyflare wrote:
it's not trash talk i'm updating hapa on why i'm voting you because you're doing the exact same things and this game i'm town so really you are playing completely anti win-con this game (which is what you were doing last game too) and until you learn to respect that and actually play mafia then i'll say what i feel like What should I do then? How to be good towny? Dislike this ALOT. You cannot be taught to be town you just are. Mafia has to try and act town. Don't know, I guess I have a natural affinity for scum play.
It's because your scum posts are based on making other people feel smart rather than making you look like an idiot.
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On May 21 2014 12:56 Hapahauli wrote:Show nested quote +On May 21 2014 12:48 Cavalinho wrote:
We should either make Cephiro make legible posts or waste him.
I'm not reading that dogshit and I'm pretty sure he did this same kind of garbage zoning off into his own little world in Cell. o.o Where did this anger come from? You have a history with him or something?
I've played with him once.
And no, I'm not mad. That's just how I post.
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On May 21 2014 13:00 Steveling wrote:Show nested quote +On May 21 2014 12:57 Cavalinho wrote:On May 21 2014 12:41 Steveling wrote:On May 21 2014 12:40 mtamburini wrote:On May 21 2014 11:48 Steveling wrote:On May 21 2014 11:45 Holyflare wrote:
it's not trash talk i'm updating hapa on why i'm voting you because you're doing the exact same things and this game i'm town so really you are playing completely anti win-con this game (which is what you were doing last game too) and until you learn to respect that and actually play mafia then i'll say what i feel like What should I do then? How to be good towny? Dislike this ALOT. You cannot be taught to be town you just are. Mafia has to try and act town. Don't know, I guess I have a natural affinity for scum play. It's because your scum posts are based on making other feel smart rather than making you look like an idiot. Damn, that's true. But how do I fix this?
Analyze stuff.
It's like the one thing you lack. You were in the right spot last game and you were the only one to vote scum but you didn't bother telling anyone why they were scum.
You're just kinda "meh, fuck it. Follow me and be right."
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Rofl, I just realized that Steveling is scum this game.
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##Foolishness read: Steveling
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On May 21 2014 13:51 Holyflare wrote:Show nested quote +On May 21 2014 12:22 thrawn2112 wrote:
cav we're lynching you d1, fucking serious why you not pushing this anymore?
Because reasons.
Stop thinking about it.
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Holyflare, stop talking to the mafia.
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On May 21 2014 14:09 BlueyD wrote:
Cav why do you think he's scum?
Because he's scum.
And also because he's trying to hide and he's posting a lot of questions aimed at making people feel superior. Hence, he is a mafia trying to get people to ignore him and blend in.
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On May 21 2014 14:26 27ninjabunnies wrote:Show nested quote +On May 21 2014 14:24 thrawn2112 wrote:On May 21 2014 14:21 Holyflare wrote:On May 21 2014 14:20 thrawn2112 wrote:
whatever i'm just going to afk until there's something worth talking about why not just... make something to talk about? it's not how I like to play D1. u can call me scum or complaign about it but this is just how it's going to be. like blue said, if I don't step up during the last half of D1 then yeah I deserve whatever I get. but that's not gonna happen so there won't be any problem. I still don't like this. Just because someone says you are gonna step up your game, you are going to have to, regardless of your alignment to not seem scummy. This basically does nothing for me.
You're not going to like any of thrawn's play.
I'd suggest two things:
A) Thinking about the way thrawn plays and if that's the thing you have an issue with.
B) Wait for more ammo for your case.
If thrawn is legitimately mafia/scum, he's most likely going to get shot at night anyway because he's such a pain for other mafias to deal with.
I'd highly suggest you, instead, move your vote to Steveling; his filter is, especially at this time, far more cut-and-dry.
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On May 21 2014 14:40 Tehpoofter wrote:
@Thrawn I understand that day 1 is a minefield of crazy shit but not putting yourself out there is not pro town even fi you happen to be wrong ab unch on day 1 who cares at least you're trying ot figure the game out. How is someone suppose to read you when you don't say anything or even try until the end of d1 if everyone played like you it would be hella boring and we might as well hop on the crazy train with BH
When does europe wake up we need more people in the thread. Who is around to talk?
I am.
Hi.
Vote Steveling.
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On May 21 2014 14:44 Tehpoofter wrote:Show nested quote +On May 21 2014 14:42 Cavalinho wrote:On May 21 2014 14:40 Tehpoofter wrote:
@Thrawn I understand that day 1 is a minefield of crazy shit but not putting yourself out there is not pro town even fi you happen to be wrong ab unch on day 1 who cares at least you're trying ot figure the game out. How is someone suppose to read you when you don't say anything or even try until the end of d1 if everyone played like you it would be hella boring and we might as well hop on the crazy train with BH
When does europe wake up we need more people in the thread. Who is around to talk? I am. Hi. Vote Steveling. You were in last game remember how we misslynched steve for playing like he did and reacting like he did to HF? How can you think this isn't similar town?
The circumstances of that game were entirely different. Steveling had a huge air of superiority about him and even towards the end I thought he was town (damn you HF).
Steveling is playing nothing like he did in Glory. He's pandering to people, making them feel good and trying to get them to ignore him. You absolutely, 100% should lynch him today.
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Steveling
Cut out all the spam, and you're left with stuff like this:
On May 21 2014 13:00 Steveling wrote:Damn, that's true.
But how do I fix this?
What the fu-? Who asks questions like this belittling themselves? This question makes 0 sense if you're town. It makes people ignore you and talk down to you...But it makes perfect sense if you're mafia. It makes other people feel smart. Feel superior.
His filter actually has more of the same:
I'm so confused, can someone guide me pls?
Just tell me who to vote, (.
More meek statements meant to get people to ignore him and make them think he's helpful to the town. Worthless to make as town, especially in a huge game like this. But they make a lot of sense when you're actually mafia and you're trying to get by.
Now here are some different posts:
Yes you literally only won because of my bad play as town right?
Not because NO ONE, LITERALLY NO ONE VOTED FOR A SCUM IN ALL 3 DAYS.
Oh wait, except me.
Yeah but you may be on of them and trying to buddy me again like last game. FU, xD
Read our last game, it's not long.
Nothing really special about posts like these. These are all about last game, so it seems like he's contributing information without actually doing anything at all.
Without wanting to actually quote everything in the universe, the fifth page of his filter is almost nothing but filler. The bad kind of filler that makes people think that they belong when, in reality, they're just posting enough to get by and seem town.
Also, I never said Steveling was "ignoring" people, quite the contrary. I believe his intent is to get people to ignore him.
And also, Steveling is my second choice of lynch. My third, fourth, and fifth choices are somehow Steveling as well.
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On May 22 2014 00:44 sqrtofneg1 wrote:
Okay, here's my new reads/changed reads:
I'm not sure of the tambo push, I originally read tambo as town, but I'm not sure right now.
BKQ I don't like.
Marv I like.
Xat is my top town atm.
Steve I like.
Cav I don't like.
As always, ask me to explain if needed.
Get your vote off of Holyflare you dingus.
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On May 22 2014 00:52 Koshi wrote:Show nested quote +On May 22 2014 00:52 Valenius wrote:On May 22 2014 00:46 sqrtofneg1 wrote:On May 22 2014 00:45 OdinOfPergo wrote:
So some thoughts so far..
I'll try to keep in order as much as possible... but as I just skimmed like 50 pages that might be hard.
This whole RNG stuff.
It's pointless, it was pointless from the start.
My few conclusions I'm going to take away from this are:
BH is probably scum. Not as a baseless OMGUS, I'll explain.
BH has literally no filter.
None at all.
I'm not saying I'm in-tune with how BH does his RNG thing people were saying was popular with him.
But BH's filter consist of:
Let's RNG Odin.
No serious guys, let's do it.
Guys? Why we no voting for Odin?
Ok screw RNG then I'll just call Odin scum.
You know the guy who's posted.. not a single time.
How did this a RNG roll evolve to a scum read?
I mean it's been almost half of day one now and I'm still the only read he has in the game atm.
Okok, I lied a bit there. He wanted someone to shoot Geript iirc too.
So my conclusion to his filter is:
-Useless RNG talk
-Filler post
-Weird call for a shot on Geript (Dude's an ass? who knew! Geript you horse you.)
-Impossible evolution of a scum read on Odin
##Vote: Blazinghand
The Steve/Holy/MZ whoever else arguement was pretty weird to me too.
I don't think Holy is scum atm.
I'm not particularly partial to Steve's spam. 1/10 post he's made amount to anything to me.
That worries me.
MZ also had a few post I didn't like around this time.
But he shares a lot of the reads I have now.
So not sure if I just didn't like them because of the context, or because they were bad.
I'll have to read his filter later to decide.
I'd be fine with Vale lynch.
All the reasons already said by other people.
I'm totes a sheep if he becomes the lynch.
The whole Ceph case on ninjabunnies reads really awful to me tbh.
I mean I get what he's saying. But I have no idea why he believes that to be the case.
You're basing your top scum read on
"she didn't respond the way I expected town to respond."
"she didn't think like I think a town should of thought"
I mean your case isn't wrong per say.
But it is very bad.
Consider the player list of this game.
If you don't understand why someone responded/acted towards something you were trying to lay a trap for...
Umm I guess you might probably just go ahead lynching 1/3 of the player list.
Conclusion of your case means I should of been mislynched in 95% of the town games I've ever played.
Because I never make any sense..
Moving along,
Bunnies case on Thrawn is stupid and bad.
But it's not her fault really imo.
If I had never played with Thrawn I'd probably be suspicious of him too.
I mean this is probably why I'm eerie of Steve right now.
His play so far isn't something I'd call super for town.
But I have no idea what Steve's play looks like period.
Anyway, /end wallpost. I'll be around for a short while before bed. Hopefully I'll be up again early enough to chat with people before work.
Why would you be okay with Valenius lynch? Any original reasons? Sqrt, be my knight in shining armour. Travelling home now, so ill post properly in a bit. Fun fact: I took more toilet breaks than I ever have done at work before, just so I could semi-keep up with you all. Townpile
Explain?
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Sqrt, you don't know my meta. One game isn't enough to understand my meta, especially since I've never rolled scum ever.
And also I loathe your Steveling read.
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On May 22 2014 01:04 Koshi wrote:Show nested quote +On May 22 2014 00:54 Cavalinho wrote:On May 22 2014 00:52 Koshi wrote:On May 22 2014 00:52 Valenius wrote:On May 22 2014 00:46 sqrtofneg1 wrote:On May 22 2014 00:45 OdinOfPergo wrote:
So some thoughts so far..
I'll try to keep in order as much as possible... but as I just skimmed like 50 pages that might be hard.
This whole RNG stuff.
It's pointless, it was pointless from the start.
My few conclusions I'm going to take away from this are:
BH is probably scum. Not as a baseless OMGUS, I'll explain.
BH has literally no filter.
None at all.
I'm not saying I'm in-tune with how BH does his RNG thing people were saying was popular with him.
But BH's filter consist of:
Let's RNG Odin.
No serious guys, let's do it.
Guys? Why we no voting for Odin?
Ok screw RNG then I'll just call Odin scum.
You know the guy who's posted.. not a single time.
How did this a RNG roll evolve to a scum read?
I mean it's been almost half of day one now and I'm still the only read he has in the game atm.
Okok, I lied a bit there. He wanted someone to shoot Geript iirc too.
So my conclusion to his filter is:
-Useless RNG talk
-Filler post
-Weird call for a shot on Geript (Dude's an ass? who knew! Geript you horse you.)
-Impossible evolution of a scum read on Odin
##Vote: Blazinghand
The Steve/Holy/MZ whoever else arguement was pretty weird to me too.
I don't think Holy is scum atm.
I'm not particularly partial to Steve's spam. 1/10 post he's made amount to anything to me.
That worries me.
MZ also had a few post I didn't like around this time.
But he shares a lot of the reads I have now.
So not sure if I just didn't like them because of the context, or because they were bad.
I'll have to read his filter later to decide.
I'd be fine with Vale lynch.
All the reasons already said by other people.
I'm totes a sheep if he becomes the lynch.
The whole Ceph case on ninjabunnies reads really awful to me tbh.
I mean I get what he's saying. But I have no idea why he believes that to be the case.
You're basing your top scum read on
"she didn't respond the way I expected town to respond."
"she didn't think like I think a town should of thought"
I mean your case isn't wrong per say.
But it is very bad.
Consider the player list of this game.
If you don't understand why someone responded/acted towards something you were trying to lay a trap for...
Umm I guess you might probably just go ahead lynching 1/3 of the player list.
Conclusion of your case means I should of been mislynched in 95% of the town games I've ever played.
Because I never make any sense..
Moving along,
Bunnies case on Thrawn is stupid and bad.
But it's not her fault really imo.
If I had never played with Thrawn I'd probably be suspicious of him too.
I mean this is probably why I'm eerie of Steve right now.
His play so far isn't something I'd call super for town.
But I have no idea what Steve's play looks like period.
Anyway, /end wallpost. I'll be around for a short while before bed. Hopefully I'll be up again early enough to chat with people before work.
Why would you be okay with Valenius lynch? Any original reasons? Sqrt, be my knight in shining armour. Travelling home now, so ill post properly in a bit. Fun fact: I took more toilet breaks than I ever have done at work before, just so I could semi-keep up with you all. Townpile Explain? Scum doesnt take bathroom breaks to keep up.
Wtf? Why not?
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On May 22 2014 01:05 marvellosity wrote:Show nested quote +On May 22 2014 01:04 Cavalinho wrote:On May 22 2014 01:04 Koshi wrote:On May 22 2014 00:54 Cavalinho wrote:On May 22 2014 00:52 Koshi wrote:On May 22 2014 00:52 Valenius wrote:On May 22 2014 00:46 sqrtofneg1 wrote:On May 22 2014 00:45 OdinOfPergo wrote:
So some thoughts so far..
I'll try to keep in order as much as possible... but as I just skimmed like 50 pages that might be hard.
This whole RNG stuff.
It's pointless, it was pointless from the start.
My few conclusions I'm going to take away from this are:
BH is probably scum. Not as a baseless OMGUS, I'll explain.
BH has literally no filter.
None at all.
I'm not saying I'm in-tune with how BH does his RNG thing people were saying was popular with him.
But BH's filter consist of:
Let's RNG Odin.
No serious guys, let's do it.
Guys? Why we no voting for Odin?
Ok screw RNG then I'll just call Odin scum.
You know the guy who's posted.. not a single time.
How did this a RNG roll evolve to a scum read?
I mean it's been almost half of day one now and I'm still the only read he has in the game atm.
Okok, I lied a bit there. He wanted someone to shoot Geript iirc too.
So my conclusion to his filter is:
-Useless RNG talk
-Filler post
-Weird call for a shot on Geript (Dude's an ass? who knew! Geript you horse you.)
-Impossible evolution of a scum read on Odin
##Vote: Blazinghand
The Steve/Holy/MZ whoever else arguement was pretty weird to me too.
I don't think Holy is scum atm.
I'm not particularly partial to Steve's spam. 1/10 post he's made amount to anything to me.
That worries me.
MZ also had a few post I didn't like around this time.
But he shares a lot of the reads I have now.
So not sure if I just didn't like them because of the context, or because they were bad.
I'll have to read his filter later to decide.
I'd be fine with Vale lynch.
All the reasons already said by other people.
I'm totes a sheep if he becomes the lynch.
The whole Ceph case on ninjabunnies reads really awful to me tbh.
I mean I get what he's saying. But I have no idea why he believes that to be the case.
You're basing your top scum read on
"she didn't respond the way I expected town to respond."
"she didn't think like I think a town should of thought"
I mean your case isn't wrong per say.
But it is very bad.
Consider the player list of this game.
If you don't understand why someone responded/acted towards something you were trying to lay a trap for...
Umm I guess you might probably just go ahead lynching 1/3 of the player list.
Conclusion of your case means I should of been mislynched in 95% of the town games I've ever played.
Because I never make any sense..
Moving along,
Bunnies case on Thrawn is stupid and bad.
But it's not her fault really imo.
If I had never played with Thrawn I'd probably be suspicious of him too.
I mean this is probably why I'm eerie of Steve right now.
His play so far isn't something I'd call super for town.
But I have no idea what Steve's play looks like period.
Anyway, /end wallpost. I'll be around for a short while before bed. Hopefully I'll be up again early enough to chat with people before work.
Why would you be okay with Valenius lynch? Any original reasons? Sqrt, be my knight in shining armour. Travelling home now, so ill post properly in a bit. Fun fact: I took more toilet breaks than I ever have done at work before, just so I could semi-keep up with you all. Townpile Explain? Scum doesnt take bathroom breaks to keep up. Wtf? Why not? Because mafia do not need to go to the toilet You'd know this if you've ever rolled mafia. Have you been to the toilet this game? ... :x
No, I haven-
OH SHIT.
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On May 22 2014 01:11 Koshi wrote:Show nested quote +On May 22 2014 01:04 Cavalinho wrote:On May 22 2014 01:04 Koshi wrote:On May 22 2014 00:54 Cavalinho wrote:On May 22 2014 00:52 Koshi wrote:On May 22 2014 00:52 Valenius wrote:On May 22 2014 00:46 sqrtofneg1 wrote:On May 22 2014 00:45 OdinOfPergo wrote:
So some thoughts so far..
I'll try to keep in order as much as possible... but as I just skimmed like 50 pages that might be hard.
This whole RNG stuff.
It's pointless, it was pointless from the start.
My few conclusions I'm going to take away from this are:
BH is probably scum. Not as a baseless OMGUS, I'll explain.
BH has literally no filter.
None at all.
I'm not saying I'm in-tune with how BH does his RNG thing people were saying was popular with him.
But BH's filter consist of:
Let's RNG Odin.
No serious guys, let's do it.
Guys? Why we no voting for Odin?
Ok screw RNG then I'll just call Odin scum.
You know the guy who's posted.. not a single time.
How did this a RNG roll evolve to a scum read?
I mean it's been almost half of day one now and I'm still the only read he has in the game atm.
Okok, I lied a bit there. He wanted someone to shoot Geript iirc too.
So my conclusion to his filter is:
-Useless RNG talk
-Filler post
-Weird call for a shot on Geript (Dude's an ass? who knew! Geript you horse you.)
-Impossible evolution of a scum read on Odin
##Vote: Blazinghand
The Steve/Holy/MZ whoever else arguement was pretty weird to me too.
I don't think Holy is scum atm.
I'm not particularly partial to Steve's spam. 1/10 post he's made amount to anything to me.
That worries me.
MZ also had a few post I didn't like around this time.
But he shares a lot of the reads I have now.
So not sure if I just didn't like them because of the context, or because they were bad.
I'll have to read his filter later to decide.
I'd be fine with Vale lynch.
All the reasons already said by other people.
I'm totes a sheep if he becomes the lynch.
The whole Ceph case on ninjabunnies reads really awful to me tbh.
I mean I get what he's saying. But I have no idea why he believes that to be the case.
You're basing your top scum read on
"she didn't respond the way I expected town to respond."
"she didn't think like I think a town should of thought"
I mean your case isn't wrong per say.
But it is very bad.
Consider the player list of this game.
If you don't understand why someone responded/acted towards something you were trying to lay a trap for...
Umm I guess you might probably just go ahead lynching 1/3 of the player list.
Conclusion of your case means I should of been mislynched in 95% of the town games I've ever played.
Because I never make any sense..
Moving along,
Bunnies case on Thrawn is stupid and bad.
But it's not her fault really imo.
If I had never played with Thrawn I'd probably be suspicious of him too.
I mean this is probably why I'm eerie of Steve right now.
His play so far isn't something I'd call super for town.
But I have no idea what Steve's play looks like period.
Anyway, /end wallpost. I'll be around for a short while before bed. Hopefully I'll be up again early enough to chat with people before work.
Why would you be okay with Valenius lynch? Any original reasons? Sqrt, be my knight in shining armour. Travelling home now, so ill post properly in a bit. Fun fact: I took more toilet breaks than I ever have done at work before, just so I could semi-keep up with you all. Townpile Explain? Scum doesnt take bathroom breaks to keep up. Wtf? Why not? Because as mafia you can just say. Guys I have had to work all day, I couldn't keep up but here are some ideas of mine: "yabbayabbayabba". Clearly this guy is so determined to find mafia he hides with his phone on a toilet to analyze posts. Doesn't get more townie than that.
Better question: why would someone make that post, give no new ideas, and then be considered town? Why don't you wait until later when he actually tries to catch mafia?
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On May 22 2014 01:18 Valenius wrote:Show nested quote +On May 22 2014 01:11 Koshi wrote:On May 22 2014 01:04 Cavalinho wrote:On May 22 2014 01:04 Koshi wrote:On May 22 2014 00:54 Cavalinho wrote:On May 22 2014 00:52 Koshi wrote:On May 22 2014 00:52 Valenius wrote:On May 22 2014 00:46 sqrtofneg1 wrote:On May 22 2014 00:45 OdinOfPergo wrote:
So some thoughts so far..
I'll try to keep in order as much as possible... but as I just skimmed like 50 pages that might be hard.
This whole RNG stuff.
It's pointless, it was pointless from the start.
My few conclusions I'm going to take away from this are:
BH is probably scum. Not as a baseless OMGUS, I'll explain.
BH has literally no filter.
None at all.
I'm not saying I'm in-tune with how BH does his RNG thing people were saying was popular with him.
But BH's filter consist of:
Let's RNG Odin.
No serious guys, let's do it.
Guys? Why we no voting for Odin?
Ok screw RNG then I'll just call Odin scum.
You know the guy who's posted.. not a single time.
How did this a RNG roll evolve to a scum read?
I mean it's been almost half of day one now and I'm still the only read he has in the game atm.
Okok, I lied a bit there. He wanted someone to shoot Geript iirc too.
So my conclusion to his filter is:
-Useless RNG talk
-Filler post
-Weird call for a shot on Geript (Dude's an ass? who knew! Geript you horse you.)
-Impossible evolution of a scum read on Odin
##Vote: Blazinghand
The Steve/Holy/MZ whoever else arguement was pretty weird to me too.
I don't think Holy is scum atm.
I'm not particularly partial to Steve's spam. 1/10 post he's made amount to anything to me.
That worries me.
MZ also had a few post I didn't like around this time.
But he shares a lot of the reads I have now.
So not sure if I just didn't like them because of the context, or because they were bad.
I'll have to read his filter later to decide.
I'd be fine with Vale lynch.
All the reasons already said by other people.
I'm totes a sheep if he becomes the lynch.
The whole Ceph case on ninjabunnies reads really awful to me tbh.
I mean I get what he's saying. But I have no idea why he believes that to be the case.
You're basing your top scum read on
"she didn't respond the way I expected town to respond."
"she didn't think like I think a town should of thought"
I mean your case isn't wrong per say.
But it is very bad.
Consider the player list of this game.
If you don't understand why someone responded/acted towards something you were trying to lay a trap for...
Umm I guess you might probably just go ahead lynching 1/3 of the player list.
Conclusion of your case means I should of been mislynched in 95% of the town games I've ever played.
Because I never make any sense..
Moving along,
Bunnies case on Thrawn is stupid and bad.
But it's not her fault really imo.
If I had never played with Thrawn I'd probably be suspicious of him too.
I mean this is probably why I'm eerie of Steve right now.
His play so far isn't something I'd call super for town.
But I have no idea what Steve's play looks like period.
Anyway, /end wallpost. I'll be around for a short while before bed. Hopefully I'll be up again early enough to chat with people before work.
Why would you be okay with Valenius lynch? Any original reasons? Sqrt, be my knight in shining armour. Travelling home now, so ill post properly in a bit. Fun fact: I took more toilet breaks than I ever have done at work before, just so I could semi-keep up with you all. Townpile Explain? Scum doesnt take bathroom breaks to keep up. Wtf? Why not? Because as mafia you can just say. Guys I have had to work all day, I couldn't keep up but here are some ideas of mine: "yabbayabbayabba". Clearly this guy is so determined to find mafia he hides with his phone on a toilet to analyze posts. Doesn't get more townie than that. wtf Don't set me unrealistic goals of actually analysing stuff.
I thought you were heading home to post analysis.
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On May 22 2014 01:20 Koshi wrote:Show nested quote +On May 22 2014 01:16 Cavalinho wrote:On May 22 2014 01:11 Koshi wrote:On May 22 2014 01:04 Cavalinho wrote:On May 22 2014 01:04 Koshi wrote:On May 22 2014 00:54 Cavalinho wrote:On May 22 2014 00:52 Koshi wrote:On May 22 2014 00:52 Valenius wrote:On May 22 2014 00:46 sqrtofneg1 wrote:On May 22 2014 00:45 OdinOfPergo wrote:
So some thoughts so far..
I'll try to keep in order as much as possible... but as I just skimmed like 50 pages that might be hard.
This whole RNG stuff.
It's pointless, it was pointless from the start.
My few conclusions I'm going to take away from this are:
BH is probably scum. Not as a baseless OMGUS, I'll explain.
BH has literally no filter.
None at all.
I'm not saying I'm in-tune with how BH does his RNG thing people were saying was popular with him.
But BH's filter consist of:
Let's RNG Odin.
No serious guys, let's do it.
Guys? Why we no voting for Odin?
Ok screw RNG then I'll just call Odin scum.
You know the guy who's posted.. not a single time.
How did this a RNG roll evolve to a scum read?
I mean it's been almost half of day one now and I'm still the only read he has in the game atm.
Okok, I lied a bit there. He wanted someone to shoot Geript iirc too.
So my conclusion to his filter is:
-Useless RNG talk
-Filler post
-Weird call for a shot on Geript (Dude's an ass? who knew! Geript you horse you.)
-Impossible evolution of a scum read on Odin
##Vote: Blazinghand
The Steve/Holy/MZ whoever else arguement was pretty weird to me too.
I don't think Holy is scum atm.
I'm not particularly partial to Steve's spam. 1/10 post he's made amount to anything to me.
That worries me.
MZ also had a few post I didn't like around this time.
But he shares a lot of the reads I have now.
So not sure if I just didn't like them because of the context, or because they were bad.
I'll have to read his filter later to decide.
I'd be fine with Vale lynch.
All the reasons already said by other people.
I'm totes a sheep if he becomes the lynch.
The whole Ceph case on ninjabunnies reads really awful to me tbh.
I mean I get what he's saying. But I have no idea why he believes that to be the case.
You're basing your top scum read on
"she didn't respond the way I expected town to respond."
"she didn't think like I think a town should of thought"
I mean your case isn't wrong per say.
But it is very bad.
Consider the player list of this game.
If you don't understand why someone responded/acted towards something you were trying to lay a trap for...
Umm I guess you might probably just go ahead lynching 1/3 of the player list.
Conclusion of your case means I should of been mislynched in 95% of the town games I've ever played.
Because I never make any sense..
Moving along,
Bunnies case on Thrawn is stupid and bad.
But it's not her fault really imo.
If I had never played with Thrawn I'd probably be suspicious of him too.
I mean this is probably why I'm eerie of Steve right now.
His play so far isn't something I'd call super for town.
But I have no idea what Steve's play looks like period.
Anyway, /end wallpost. I'll be around for a short while before bed. Hopefully I'll be up again early enough to chat with people before work.
Why would you be okay with Valenius lynch? Any original reasons? Sqrt, be my knight in shining armour. Travelling home now, so ill post properly in a bit. Fun fact: I took more toilet breaks than I ever have done at work before, just so I could semi-keep up with you all. Townpile Explain? Scum doesnt take bathroom breaks to keep up. Wtf? Why not? Because as mafia you can just say. Guys I have had to work all day, I couldn't keep up but here are some ideas of mine: "yabbayabbayabba". Clearly this guy is so determined to find mafia he hides with his phone on a toilet to analyze posts. Doesn't get more townie than that. Better question: why would someone make that post, give no new ideas, and then be considered town? Why don't you wait until later when he actually tries to catch mafia? Why would mafia do it then? To not look town? The guy is just proudly announced that he hided on a toilet to read this thread. Seriously. He is town.
Or he's trying to appear town. You know, which mafia is trying to do.
I don't like your read and I don't like you.
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WoS, look into Steveling. HF is town and Hapa is also probably town.
I'm boggled by the fact that marv said having a huge filter is good for town. It's not when there's nothing there but useless garbage that clogs up the thread and doesn't accomplish anything.
Also, who said we should lynch layabout? When you're talking about a guy that gets lynched day 1/2 a lot, maybe, just maybe you should take the quality of their play into consideration. Maybe I'm biased because I got lynched day 1 a lot for stupid reasons, but I still really want to kill Steveling today over anything and everything else for the moment.
I'd be really wary of people who say that just having a big filter is good for town.
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On May 22 2014 08:03 Hapahauli wrote:Show nested quote +On May 22 2014 08:00 Cavalinho wrote:
WoS, look into Steveling. HF is town and Hapa is also probably town.
I'm boggled by the fact that marv said having a huge filter is good for town. It's not when there's nothing there but useless garbage that clogs up the thread and doesn't accomplish anything.
Also, who said we should lynch layabout? When you're talking about a guy that gets lynched day 1/2 a lot, maybe, just maybe you should take the quality of their play into consideration. Maybe I'm biased because I got lynched day 1 a lot for stupid reasons, but I still really want to kill Steveling today over anything and everything else for the moment.
I'd be really wary of people who say that just having a big filter is good for town. Steveling would be a terrible lynch. I get that you don't like his play, and his play is very spammy, but it's also very clearly town. Just because his spam is "contentless" doesn't mean it isn't genuine. Look at some of his other games - he plays like that all the time.
Before we start arguing, I want to know what "genuine" is.
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On May 22 2014 08:07 Hapahauli wrote:Show nested quote +On May 22 2014 08:04 Cavalinho wrote:On May 22 2014 08:03 Hapahauli wrote:On May 22 2014 08:00 Cavalinho wrote:
WoS, look into Steveling. HF is town and Hapa is also probably town.
I'm boggled by the fact that marv said having a huge filter is good for town. It's not when there's nothing there but useless garbage that clogs up the thread and doesn't accomplish anything.
Also, who said we should lynch layabout? When you're talking about a guy that gets lynched day 1/2 a lot, maybe, just maybe you should take the quality of their play into consideration. Maybe I'm biased because I got lynched day 1 a lot for stupid reasons, but I still really want to kill Steveling today over anything and everything else for the moment.
I'd be really wary of people who say that just having a big filter is good for town. Steveling would be a terrible lynch. I get that you don't like his play, and his play is very spammy, but it's also very clearly town. Just because his spam is "contentless" doesn't mean it isn't genuine. Look at some of his other games - he plays like that all the time. Before we start arguing, I want to know what "genuine" is. Genuine can be many things. What's "townie" about his filter is that he's constantly posting without thinking, getting into many fights, and is generally wearing his emotions on his sleeve. Contrast this with normal mafia instincts to hide, avoid conflict, etc. Also, look at his past games and compare them to this one. If you haven't done that, then your analysis is meaningless.
I've played with him before. He is doing the exact same thing he was doing in Cell, making people feel smart and getting people to ignore him. It's spammier than normal, but that's not the issue that I have with him.
Like some of the players right now are just calling it boring (Koshi) without trying to see if it's legitimately true or not. Why is this not an issue for you?
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On May 22 2014 08:18 Hapahauli wrote:Show nested quote +On May 22 2014 08:12 Cavalinho wrote:On May 22 2014 08:07 Hapahauli wrote:On May 22 2014 08:04 Cavalinho wrote:On May 22 2014 08:03 Hapahauli wrote:On May 22 2014 08:00 Cavalinho wrote:
WoS, look into Steveling. HF is town and Hapa is also probably town.
I'm boggled by the fact that marv said having a huge filter is good for town. It's not when there's nothing there but useless garbage that clogs up the thread and doesn't accomplish anything.
Also, who said we should lynch layabout? When you're talking about a guy that gets lynched day 1/2 a lot, maybe, just maybe you should take the quality of their play into consideration. Maybe I'm biased because I got lynched day 1 a lot for stupid reasons, but I still really want to kill Steveling today over anything and everything else for the moment.
I'd be really wary of people who say that just having a big filter is good for town. Steveling would be a terrible lynch. I get that you don't like his play, and his play is very spammy, but it's also very clearly town. Just because his spam is "contentless" doesn't mean it isn't genuine. Look at some of his other games - he plays like that all the time. Before we start arguing, I want to know what "genuine" is. Genuine can be many things. What's "townie" about his filter is that he's constantly posting without thinking, getting into many fights, and is generally wearing his emotions on his sleeve. Contrast this with normal mafia instincts to hide, avoid conflict, etc. Also, look at his past games and compare them to this one. If you haven't done that, then your analysis is meaningless. I've played with him before. He is doing the exact same thing he was doing in Cell, making people feel smart and getting people to ignore him. It's spammier than normal, but that's not the issue that I have with him. Like some of the players right now are just calling it boring (Koshi) without trying to see if it's legitimately true or not. Why is this not an issue for you? Nothing in this post describes why Steveling is scum. You compare his play in Cell to his play here, but they look very different at first glance to me. He is definetely active in Cell, but seems a lot more calm. Compared to this game, he's picking fights and is generally an attention-whore.
Then check my filter for the big, red-titled post on why I thought he was scum.
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On May 22 2014 08:38 Steveling wrote:
Cav talk to me buddy, I want to give you a chance to prove your town.
Rofl. I don't owe you anything. Get the fuck out of here.
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What's funny is that I thought that gumshoe was town before it anyway.
But whatever, my words didn't really hold the same kind of weight as anyone else's.
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Christ sqrt your reads are so bad I swear.
I'm actually legit considering HF super confirmed town because you scumread him. You scumread people for the worst reasons, and it isn't even a tell because you played like this last time too.
The fuck.
Also, I'm gonna take my vote off of Steve because I'm pretty sure geript can just shoot him during the night sequence, and he probably isn't getting lynched anyway.
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On May 22 2014 10:29 geript wrote:
Yeah well I'll just sit back quietly voting for Scumeling. You guys can do what you want.
We won't forget about him.
Not for a long time.
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On May 22 2014 10:30 Holyflare wrote:Show nested quote +On May 22 2014 10:27 Cavalinho wrote:
Christ sqrt your reads are so bad I swear.
I'm actually legit considering HF super confirmed town because you scumread him. You scumread people for the worst reasons, and it isn't even a tell because you played like this last time too.
The fuck.
Also, I'm gonna take my vote off of Steve because I'm pretty sure geript can just shoot him during the night sequence, and he probably isn't getting lynched anyway. so who's scum other than steve now? 
I have no goddamn clue.
I'm probably just going to sheep Foolishness because his mtam case seemed pretty good.
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On May 22 2014 10:45 Steveling wrote:
So cav jumps on the crazy train with geript about me.
After I proved the whole meta ordeal wrong he casually lifts his vote off me.
Meanwhile he completely ignored my post as to why he's thinking I'm scum and suddenly, right when his name is targeted he miraculously appears to defend himself!!
Such miracle.
I'm confident that you're going to get shot tonight, so why bother trying to lynch you?
I've seen nothing to make me change my read on you. Have fun being dead.
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On May 22 2014 10:48 Steveling wrote:Show nested quote +On May 22 2014 10:47 Cavalinho wrote:On May 22 2014 10:45 Steveling wrote:
So cav jumps on the crazy train with geript about me.
After I proved the whole meta ordeal wrong he casually lifts his vote off me.
Meanwhile he completely ignored my post as to why he's thinking I'm scum and suddenly, right when his name is targeted he miraculously appears to defend himself!!
Such miracle. I'm confident that you're going to get shot tonight, so why bother trying to lynch you? I've seen nothing to make me change my read on you. Have fun being dead. Can you explain why I'm scum according to you? Also my shield will protect me.
Go reread my case. Nothing I think about you matters anymore.
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Holy shit you're annoying.
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On May 22 2014 11:57 Steveling wrote:Show nested quote +On May 22 2014 11:55 Holyflare wrote:On May 22 2014 11:40 Steveling wrote:On May 22 2014 11:37 Holyflare wrote:On May 22 2014 11:36 kitaman27 wrote:On May 22 2014 11:33 Steveling wrote:
What do you guys make of cav?
His last posts are just scum. I'm kinda wondering if he can legitimately be as angry as he seems this game. Is he usually like this? i for one understand his annoyance (hence the early game me vs steve) but i'd like him to start branching out a bit What annoyance? What kind of lies are you spreading here. He's not saying that I'm spammy or annoying or anything like that. His only reason was that I play like my other games, even like my scum games which I proceeded to disprove and after that he went crazy, I asked him to parley but he refuses, obviously because he has no other reasons because he's scum. well if i was annoyed at you for last game and i was mafia and i won because i could push a mislynch on you i can only imagine what cav would feel like if you started doing the same thing in this game (he was town in that game for anyone else wondering) it would put me in a fowl mood for every single post of yours that i read, like it did for me at the start. It's also frustrating to not be listened to when you're in a mindset like that So you chose to completely phase out the part where I distinguished my town from my scum plays. The part where even cav admitted of being right and backed off. You have a shitty excuse my friend.
I never admitted you were right. You're deliberately ignoring the points I was making in my earlier case and you're just saying "no im town ur wrong."
Every single thing you're trying to accuse me of doing is something you're doing, and I'm desperately trying to find something else to focus on besides you shitting up the thread with nonsense.
Now, if you don't mind, I'm going to try to read someone else now.
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On May 22 2014 12:12 Meapak_Ziphh wrote:Show nested quote +On May 22 2014 11:58 kitaman27 wrote:On May 22 2014 11:50 Meapak_Ziphh wrote:
Hey Kita, I understand you'd rather me not pursue this HF thing right now but his responses have piqued my interests. Since you're here, why don't you give me some suggestions of who else I could look at. Take your pick out of these four. Valenius Wave poofter BlueyD Well you already know my opinions on Wave and Val Here's my opinion on BlueyD: Show nested quote +On May 21 2014 10:53 BlueyD wrote:
Wasn't so convinced by the case on Valenius when I read it. His posts weren't pretend-contributions of the scummy type, they were just obviously irrelevant.
[...] Show nested quote +On May 21 2014 13:36 BlueyD wrote:
Ehhhh I'm back.
Don't like the case on bunnies, I feel like Ceph is stretching it.
[...] Show nested quote +On May 21 2014 13:56 BlueyD wrote:
I don’t like that the case on mtamburini seems to rely on a single post. It’s a really bad post due to format and scope, but the rest of the filter reads okay.
[...] Show nested quote +On May 22 2014 09:58 BlueyD wrote:
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Ritoky: I just don’t see a case for a lynch on him right now. There are better targets. The case by austin was bad, and his reads feel honest.
Austin: One bad case, but he retracted it really quickly once some stuff was cleared up, so not much there. Mehhhh. I pretty much don’t have a good read on this guy.
Vale: There’s really only one post to analyse here, and half of it is fluff. His townreads are yellow and bkq (and bh? I dunno, the wording made it sound really weak) which is just weird to me. His only scum read is “Light shades of pink” on cav. Come on... Going to just count this as a pretend-to-help-town post since there's nothing in it I really like. On the scummy side.
I gotta be honest I have a huge problem with people who do stuff like this. Sure BlueyD has also said he finds Yellow and Tamburini lynch worthy, however there is no time spent pushing these reads. I have no idea why BlueyD's meta is but I could be swayed to a lynch on him today.
Played with him last game. He's usually more proactive than what you're describing and he was one of the town mvps that killed kush early.
I'm not sure if I'd really call that a tell though. I'm leaning town on him for the moment, and I don't think he should be one of the lynches today. I'll definitely filter dive him and post if I find anything suspicious.
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Geript why are you making your posts intentionally annoying to read?
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I'm not sure I agree with you on the sqrt vote. He scumreads people for the weirdest shit ever, so I don't find it particularly indicative.
I'm basically just sheeping Foolishness on the mtam case, but I'm not sure about the other guy.
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On May 22 2014 13:15 thrawn2112 wrote:
who is tambo?
Mtamburini.
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Eh. Maybe. I don't really feel it.
I think his most indicative thing thus far was his vote on HF. It was so reminiscent of his vote on me in NMM that it made me think he was town for it.
Despite the fact that it was retarded both times.
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On May 22 2014 13:39 BlueyD wrote:
Also cav you would describe me as proactive? That's funny, I remember HF in Yuma criticizing me for not moving shit forward, and you seem to not mention that I waited for thrawn to initiate the kush lynch 10 mins before deadline even though I'd been on him for a while.
Honest mistake or mischaracterisation?
I believe it's a case of I couldn't be assed to do the research so take your townread and shut up.
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On May 22 2014 13:37 27ninjabunnies wrote:Show nested quote +On May 22 2014 13:23 Cavalinho wrote:
Eh. Maybe. I don't really feel it.
I think his most indicative thing thus far was his vote on HF. It was so reminiscent of his vote on me in NMM that it made me think he was town for it.
Despite the fact that it was retarded both times. What do you think about him specifically saying he doesn't want to post a lot, or that he just give reads, with nothing backing them unless someone asks him to expand on them?
Pretty much the same as before.
And I'd say you shouldn't look into it any further.
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On May 22 2014 13:43 Blazinghand wrote:Show nested quote +On May 22 2014 13:42 Cavalinho wrote:On May 22 2014 13:39 BlueyD wrote:
Also cav you would describe me as proactive? That's funny, I remember HF in Yuma criticizing me for not moving shit forward, and you seem to not mention that I waited for thrawn to initiate the kush lynch 10 mins before deadline even though I'd been on him for a while.
Honest mistake or mischaracterisation? I believe it's a case of I couldn't be assed to do the research so take your townread and shut up. Whoa g man take a chill pill
I'm aggressive out of love.
I'm going to love all of you aggressively.
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What exactly is an angry mole?
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On May 22 2014 14:12 geript wrote:
Can someone please explain to me in detail where any of Scumeling's reads are anything but things he picks up from thread sentiment and runs with?
Just commit to shooting him and leave it alone then.
Everyone is committed to ignoring him because all he does is shit up the thread with stuff that doesn't make sense.
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On May 22 2014 14:13 OnceKing wrote:
angry mole = tunneling with a lot of swearing
Game 1 = Voted town, reanalyzed, voted scum.
Game 2 = Tunneled out of the game, voted by more people after claiming parity cop.
Good thing you're so good at representing what my past games were like.
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On May 22 2014 14:21 OnceKing wrote:Show nested quote +On May 22 2014 14:15 Cavalinho wrote:On May 22 2014 14:13 OnceKing wrote:
angry mole = tunneling with a lot of swearing Game 1 = Voted town, reanalyzed, voted scum. Game 2 = Tunneled out of the game, voted by more people after claiming parity cop. Good thing you're so good at representing what my past games were like. lol game 1 sure you voted scum but it was almost completely out of the blue since all of your posts basically said "i hate amiko", spent no time pushing your scum read game 2 still tunneled, not sure what you getting MLd has to do with the fact that you like to focus on one person while typing swear words at them
Both of those things are wrong.
And I don't care about Valenius today. He's probably town playing like he's scum. Again.
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The fact that he's always scummy and lurky at the start of the game. This is the first time anyone has accurately picked up on it but he's always like this.
I've misread him twice because of it but I'm going to go ahead and give him the benefit of the doubt this time. I don't want him lynched today.
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Does anyone know if Foolishness goes away like this for long periods of time without reevaluating his reads?
I don't really want to lynch mtam much anymore and I think OK/Bluey are better lynches.
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On May 23 2014 02:34 OnceKing wrote:
bluey's kinda sketch though i still want to know why there are like 4 votes on odin
...Why is this even relevant information when there are like 32 players in the game?
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On May 23 2014 02:39 marvellosity wrote:Show nested quote +On May 23 2014 02:38 kitaman27 wrote:
It's kinda funny how my opposition to the BH rng argument has prevented me from actually considering that Odin could be mafia on principle. You're not alone
+1
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Oh ish the deadline is two hours away. When did that happen?
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Thanks Koshi.
You're a beacon of wisdom in a sea of uncertainty.
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On May 23 2014 02:43 Koshi wrote:
I have no better input than those little remarks btw.
This is why we love you.
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I might move my vote onto Odin if others do it.
I'd prefer mtam over Valenius right now, and unless I can ensure Odin's lynch over Val's, I won't move my vote.
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Yeah, I'll be around. You won't have to worry about me because my vote will be there if you need it.
Just get others to vote first.
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On May 23 2014 03:42 thrawn2112 wrote:
what are the last 20 pages about
Someone acting like a dick. Could've been anyone, mistakes were made.
Also the lynch changed. It's either mtam or Odin today.
Not relevant, you don't have to read it. Definitely gloss over it. Don't think about it. No sir.
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On May 23 2014 03:48 27ninjabunnies wrote:
Does anyone remember the quote:Odin bet that BH made with someone?
I feel like that's what this is now.
I was thinking the same. I was looking for it but couldn't find it.
Both of these lynches feel kinda "eh" to me, but maybe I'm just bad. I don't know.
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Alright alright I'm moving my vote.
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I'm getting the feeling that Odin is actually just afk and that we probably shouldn't be voting him.
>.>
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HF, you're misreading my first post and your meta read makes no sense.
I only wanted to switch onto Odin if I could confirm that Odin would die over Val, because I don't think Val is scum. You can't just take one sentence out of context and say, "yes, this person is scum because of 'sentence.'"
And meta reads only make sense if you have legitimate meta to work with, IE experience with someone's town and scumgames to the point where you can accurately differentiate between the two. I've been town in every single game we've played together, so looking for these minute changes in my playstyle aren't going to be useful.
Though I admit, your view on how Odin is an easy voteswitch is kind of what I was thinking. I don't really like this lynch because it's just such an easy lynch, but BH still made a good case I think.
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Might be too late for that, Kita.
But I'll defo consider it after the flip.
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On May 23 2014 04:51 Meapak_Ziphh wrote:
So we're voting the guy who's gonna get modkilled over the guy giving the thread the middle finger? I wasn't sure of mtams alignment until reading these past few pages, look at the difference between Val and Mtam. Val has been open and reasonably helpful. Mtam on the other hand gives nothing good.
Let's let the mods do the work on Odin and lynch Mtam.
Is there any way we can get this wagon to flip again 5 minutes before deadline though?
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On the slip side, I didn't swear that much, if at all!
Things are looking up.
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We could have fixed this.
We could have fixed this.
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Bluey, if you're going to accuse me, at least get the context of my posts correct.
First of all, I never really spoke against a lynch on Odin. Ever. I never even mentioned the lynch on Odin because I thought RNG was dumb and I thought Steveling was scum for some stuff he pulled early game. The only time I brought it up was because BH posted his case about his disconnect with the game and I thought that he had something there. Obviously, I was wrong and so was everyone else on that lynch.
Secondly, you took that third post out of context. Way out of context. That was an explanation for someone else and you said something about votecounts which doesn't really make any sense when quoted with the case you posted.
Finally, you act like I have to tunnel people out of the game. After my warning, I decided to try and make a conscious decision to clean my play up and just be nicer...Generally. I didn't/don't feel like tunneling another player out of the game and I had my doubts about the lynches from the start, with the exception of mtam. (Who is getting shot tonight.)
Your entire case boils down to "he was on a lynch he didn't like," and it's kind of true. Doesn't make me mafia, and doesn't indicate a scum mindset at all. Not liking lynch targets doesn't make me scum, and nothing you posted actually points to me being mafia in any way.
I feel like I've been really honest with what I've been doing and my intentions of trying to be a nicer/better player overall. I hope that quenches any concerns you have.
(Also apologies to the people I pissed off before. :< )
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On May 23 2014 14:00 BlueyD wrote:
If you had doubts about the lynches from the start with the exception of mtam... why didn't you vote mtam?
I really only provided that analysis with the benefit of hindsight. By the time I didn't really want Odin to die anymore, it was far and away too late to save him. What, you think people were going to listen to me and flip to someone else at the last second? Nobody even bothered listening to me about anything I've said this game sans rage, so whatever.
Besides, mtam is most likely going to die tonight regardless. He's a good shot, if nothing else than for information.
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Mostly context. It was a really easy bandwagon to hop on for, case or no case. Odin wasn't doing anything all day, and I generally felt like he was just a townie away from the game or whatever towards the end.
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Kush is lurking just like he did in Yuma. He isn't the aggressive over-the-top town kush that I've played with before. Hopefully medics save Foolishness so he posts his case and then we lynch him. The hydra will elaborate better on kush than I ever could.
Steveling is probably town, albeit his opening was really scummy. His vote analysis was enough to warrant calling him town.
Mtam is getting shot tonight so I'm not worried about him at all.
Marv's comment on pushing Odin was mega-scummy imo. Pushing people just because they can't defend themselves is bad for obvious reasons, and as one of the "vets" you think he would've known that. He was kind of laid back for most of day 1 so idk, I'll try reading into him later.
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Mercury is water.
Venus is earth.
Mars is fire.
Jupiter is wind.
Koshi's faction didn't kill anyone, so it was likely that the hit was blocked, either by medics, veterans, or other opposing roleblockers.
The Venus faction killed Koshi.
Mars killed bk.
Jupiter killed Meapak.
There was no flavor concerning if the adepts/town killed anyone. Either we don't have vigs, they got roleblocked, or they didn't shoot for whatever reason. Doesn't matter now, because scum already knows if they roleblocked the right people or not.
So why did those kills make sense to scum?
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On May 24 2014 05:44 marvellosity wrote:Show nested quote +On May 24 2014 05:43 austinmcc wrote:On May 24 2014 05:41 marvellosity wrote:+ Show Spoiler +On May 24 2014 03:25 Hapahauli wrote:Show nested quote +On May 23 2014 05:00 ShiaoPi wrote:VOTE COUNT: mtamburini (8): Tehpoofter, Hapahauli, Alakaslam, mattisfoolish, Xatalos, Cavalinho, Holyflare, thrawn2112, BlueyD, marvellosity, jampidampi, 27ninjabunnies, bkqyrldp, austinmcc, layabout, Steveling, Meapak_Ziphh Valenius (2): Meapak_Ziphh, Hapahauli, Tehpoofter, OnceKing, marvellosity, Hapahauli, Xatalos, kitaman27, sqrtofneg1 geript (0): Holyflare, StevelingKoshi (0): ValeniusSteveling (0): Holyflare, Cavalinho, geriptAlakaslam (0): kushm4sta, kushm4staHapahauli (0): kushm4staYell0w (1): Tehpoofter, Tehpoofter, BlueyDXatalos (0): jampidampi, marvellosity, Koshi, thrawn2112, kushm4stajampidampi (0): sqrtofneg1, Xatalos, Xatalos27ninjabunnies (1): Cephiro sqrtofneg1 (0): kitaman27bkqyrldp (0): marvellosityOdinOfPergo (13): Blazinghand, Steveling, Xatalos, Yell0w, Alakaslam, Alakaslam, kushm4sta, Xatalos, Koshi, OnceKing, marvellosity, Hapahauli, thrawn2112, bkqyrldp, Cavalinho, Valenius, Holyflare Holyflare (1): WaveofShadow, Xatalos, Steveling, Steveling, sqrtofneg1WaveofShadow (0): kitaman27, bkqyrldpBlazinghand (1): Tehpoofter, OdinofPergo, geript, marvellosity, geript thrawn2112 (0): 27ninjabunniesmarvellosity (0): kushm4stalayabout (1): jampidampi, Koshi, OnceKing, marvellosity, ritoky ritoky (0): austinmcc, layaboutBlueyD (0): kitaman27Tehpoofter (1): mtamburini Not voting (2): MysterMeat1, OdinofPergo OdinOfPergo was lynched with 13 votes!
I'm going to use the above votecount to structure my thoughts. By looking at the votes, we can get a better idea about the motivations of certain players, and it can help identify certain mafia tells that might be present in a multi-faction game. I'm dividing posters into 3 categories: - People off of the main wagons
- People who voted Odin
- People who voted Tambo
People off of the main wagons:There's a good chance that certain mafia/faction members will want to "blend-in" and "hide", and one very instinctual way of doing that is to avoid the main course of discussion, take "non-controversial" stances, and avoid contributing by pursuing/voting someone who is not being talked about and has very little chance of getting lynched. In this category of players, we have: mtamburini rikoty geript Cephiro Tehpoofter kitaman sqrtofneg1 WaveofShadow I'm going to start with Mafia Reads, move to Null Reads, and then to Townies: Mtamburini+ Show Spoiler +Mtamburini's vote looks extremely bad by all accounts. On May 23 2014 03:45 mtamburini wrote:I Vote:: tehpoofterwhy? No one else has and I can be the first one to say in post game if he is scum to say I TOLD YOU SO MOFOS harharharhar Tehpoofter had virtually no chance of getting lynched yesterday, and this is the definition of a wasted vote by all accounts. His reasoning for placing his vote where it was is also pretty suspect: why?
No one else has and I can be the first one to say in post game if he is scum to say I TOLD YOU SO MOFOS On May 23 2014 04:36 mtamburini wrote:I have a lot of reading to catch up on so if I had to found scum based on the first 45 pages of this game I probably couldnt do so. poofter was in my initial scum reads moving towards null.... On May 23 2014 04:59 mtamburini wrote:Show nested quote +On May 23 2014 04:38 Holyflare wrote:On May 23 2014 04:36 mtamburini wrote:On May 23 2014 04:26 Xatalos wrote:
What was that vote, mtamburini...? I have a lot of reading to catch up on so if I had to found scum based on the first 45 pages of this game I probably couldnt do so. poofter was in my initial scum reads moving towards null. Im not going to vote on bunnies because I think she might be town and just needs some time to cool off and get her head in gear. As the days go on my game will improve. With regards to my interactions with people Ive played with before I know I have a better chance of getting a read off them then smoeone I do not know so I will look at them first before anyone else. hey i thought after your long post the ONLY read you had was that steveling was scummy/null to you and that was it? where did this first 45 page poofter read come from? tehpoofter uses sarcasm as either allignment but you can usually tell by the tone of his sarcasm what allignement he is. From his initial posts Im reading the sarcasm as more scummy then towny All of this is really strange. The first two quotes can be barely considered reads. The 3rd quote is extremely manufactured and makes very little sense - tambo had never mentioned tehpoofters "sarcasm" all game, and then it shows up in a very mystical and unexplained read (what is the difference between town/mafia sarcasm?). Quote #2 is additionally strange - he voted a read (tehpoofter) that he felt was moving from Scummy to Null. Not only is this really weak, but he did so over Bunnies, who he's been seemingly tunneling most of the game, and has explicitly called her a strong scum-read in earlier posts. His rationale for not voting Bunnies is weak and makes little sense: On May 23 2014 04:36 mtamburini wrote:... Im not going to vote on bunnies because I think she might be town and just needs some time to cool off and get her head in gear. ... To understand why this makes so little sense, read this post... http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/mafia/440546-golden-sun-the-lost-age-mafia-djinn-edition?page=45#896...then read page 3 of his filter: http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/mafia/440546-golden-sun-the-lost-age-mafia-djinn-edition?user=mtamburini&page=3He doesn't vote a scumread because he believes that scumread could be town, but then votes tehpoofter (his "scummy moving to null" read) because... man I don't even know. His deadline behavior is pretty strange. After he comes back a couple of hours before lynch deadline, he quickly establishes a town-read on Odin... On May 23 2014 03:03 sqrtofneg1 wrote:
Okay, looking at Odin's filter myself, I think he's just a vanilla townie.
Scum would try harder to get out of it. As a vanilla townie, he wouldn't care. On May 23 2014 03:26 sqrtofneg1 wrote:
I recommend lynching Val.
Odin may seem scum, but I think he's VT. It's a very poorly explained town-read. His point about "Odin not trying to get out of the lynch" doesn't make much sense either, since Odin had stated earlier he'd be gone until the deadline. Futhermore, Odin was under very little pressure at the time he said that. It seems more like he's trying to justify not voting for Odin as opposed to being sincere with his read. Sqrt then pops down a very "clean" vote on Valenius... ... then POOF! He's gone for the last two hours of shenanigans! Despite having a town read on Odin, he never seems to try and act on it to prevent it. He disappears... then instantly reappears at lynch deadline! This is a really suspicious 2 hours of absence. Another *really* odd thing about his filter is how many town reads he gives out over the course of the game. He gives them out like candy, is seemingly confident in a lot of them, and... yeah. I'm not sure if this is a mafia tell in this particular setup, but it's something that definetely caught my eye on a readthrough. Given that Cephiro was AFK for the last half of the day, it's hard for me to get an accurate read on him. However the first half of his day 1 play seems like it would come from some sort of faction.
I won't talk much about the contents of his big case. What's more important is that he didn't talk about anything other than his case on bunnies at all. This lines up with the idea of a faction wanting to "hunt" for players, but not necessarily interested in contributing to town discussion.
Again, hard to make a complete read on him due to him being AFK for a while, but his play objectively fits pretty well with how I'd think a faction member hunting other faction members would approach this game: find a target, push him/her, and really not contribute to town discussion otherwise. Hard to say. His play is pretty short and straightforward. He believed layabout was scum, voted him, and then had to step out: On May 22 2014 19:48 ritoky wrote:
Well, I am going to sleep and I am not sure if I will make it back before the deadline.
For me it's between WOS and layabout.
WOS contributes and I basically don't like much of anything he says.
Layabout doesn't contribute, and when he does its mostly shit filling.
Gonna go with layabout. ##vote layabout Nothing in his filter that screams his alignment one way or the other. Well he replaced out. This makes a lot of his lack of interest and activity in the latter half of the game pretty explainable. I wasn't altogether please with his play (especially his stuff on Holyflare), but it's better not to make judgements about an incomplete filter and let his replacement talk some. I believe to be town. Geript is extremely active and emotional this game. His tunnels seem very genuine, and while he ended up on BlazingHand, he definitely was very involved in the chaos and discussion of the day. He's drawn a ton of attention to himself, and really isn't someone I'm concerned about. Tehpoofter I'm less sure about, but I think he's town. He's playing extraordinarily different from his scum-game in You Only Shoot Once, and was fairly active/involved early on. He was afk for the last ~24 hours of the day (not changing his vote or posting at all), which leads me to believe his vote being off of one of the main wagons is a null-tell. Based on his early day behavior, I give him a moderate town read, with the expectation that he continues that in future days. That's Hapa's voting analysis thingy Hapa I don't think Cephiro is mafia atm. His whole bunnies thing was sooo convoluted. And I've seen him all over the place like that as town before. I remember catching him in LXII and his posts were much clearer. So yeah. sqrt I think I agree on, the Odin townread does kinda reek of TMI. On May 24 2014 05:21 sqrtofneg1 wrote:
Woah, those kills are interesting.
Filter dive time. On May 24 2014 05:30 sqrtofneg1 wrote:I think koshi's partner/teammate in his faction is jampi. On May 22 2014 19:00 Koshi wrote:On May 22 2014 18:46 ritoky wrote:
but if you post 10x in a thread and all of it is shit, that's a 100% shit rate, which makes you a shitter in my mind at least. guess it's more of a % useful material thing for me.
Since it seems like there is only 3 of us here, let's have a bit of a chat.
@Marv/geript
I am a little bit hung up on an odd interaction in the early game, that was part of the original reads I gave when I called MZ my top town. It was when he noticed Jampidampi supporting the people he would never lynch on day 1. I was actually a bit wrong on that when I went back and looked at it again. 27ninjabunnies was the one who said it, and she actually said "there is no way I would lynch meapak this game". Which meapak felt was very strange and then jampidampi hopped in to defend bunnies against that and a couple other accusations headed her way at the time.
What do you think of that interaction, because to me it seems very odd, or if you don't particularly think anything of it what do you think about those 3 people?
I am rereading that and to me it seems jampidampi started with questioning MZ about bunnies. MZ replies that bunnies made an "unguarded" comment and is likely town. jampidampi pressures MZ and is giving bunnies a scumread for being overly defensive. He is telling MZ that the way MZ clears Bunnies is wrong and that he should revisit that read. MZ doesn't do that and jampi gives MZ a light scumread for it. This is pretty towny from Jampi tbh. quotes: ↓ + Show Spoiler +On May 21 2014 07:40 jampidampi wrote:Show nested quote +On May 21 2014 07:11 Meapak_Ziphh wrote:On May 21 2014 07:08 jampidampi wrote:
Meapak earlier you were interested in 27ninjabunnies, did you gather anything from my conversation with her? If you had to bet on her alignment, what would you guess? ehhhh I understand the part about gut reads, I've had them myself and I know how frustrating it is to try and explain them. I give her (is ninja a her?) a pass for now because her posts seem very unguarded and often early game is when scum are most uptight. Unguarded? To me it seems that she is very defensive here: Show nested quote +On May 21 2014 06:52 27ninjabunnies wrote:On May 21 2014 06:45 jampidampi wrote:On May 21 2014 06:39 27ninjabunnies wrote:On May 21 2014 06:27 jampidampi wrote:On May 21 2014 06:21 27ninjabunnies wrote:
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It's also obvious who are going to jump out in the front and try and lead town one way or another. We definitely have a mafia or two in the first couple of pages.
You sound confident, enough that I think you have your eye on someone already. Care to share as to who it may be? I may have my eye on a few people. From my experience, there are two type of mafia people: the lurkers, and the ones who like to come out first day and take control of town. I'm focusing on the latter because they are the ones to likely talk more, you can easily find their slips (if any), and they are also more likely to last longer than the lurker mafia. Why are you avoiding my question? I asked you to name your suspicions, but instead you give an indefinite answear and then babble on about something that could reasonably be figured out from your earlier post. If I'm avoiding your question, it's because I have a pretty good damn reason as to why. But because you are being persistant, the ones I have my eye on are Steveling, WaveofShadow and Tehpoofter. But this doesn't necessarily mean they are scum. I rather read more of their play and interactions before I straight out call someone mafia. The majority of these people I haven't played with, and this is my second forum game. If I don't have logic behind my reads, where does that put me? As a freaking town more likely to get mislynched. So hold your horses, let me get my reads, and then we'll talk. She has "a pretty damn good reason" to avoid my question, yet she anwears it. Earlier she said that "we definitely have a mafia or two" but now they are not necessarily scum. Brining out the newbie card, defending accusations that don't exist. I would definitely not call this post unguarded. Based on this I wouldn't clear bunnies so easily, but now you're interesting. What makes you think she was "unguarded" in this post? + Show Spoiler +For the annoyed thing, if she was slightly pissed at me, I would understand this kind of backlash. On May 21 2014 07:56 jampidampi wrote:Show nested quote +On May 21 2014 07:44 Meapak_Ziphh wrote:On May 21 2014 07:40 jampidampi wrote:On May 21 2014 07:11 Meapak_Ziphh wrote:On May 21 2014 07:08 jampidampi wrote:
Meapak earlier you were interested in 27ninjabunnies, did you gather anything from my conversation with her? If you had to bet on her alignment, what would you guess? ehhhh I understand the part about gut reads, I've had them myself and I know how frustrating it is to try and explain them. I give her (is ninja a her?) a pass for now because her posts seem very unguarded and often early game is when scum are most uptight. Unguarded? To me it seems that she is very defensive here: On May 21 2014 06:52 27ninjabunnies wrote:On May 21 2014 06:45 jampidampi wrote:On May 21 2014 06:39 27ninjabunnies wrote:On May 21 2014 06:27 jampidampi wrote:On May 21 2014 06:21 27ninjabunnies wrote:
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It's also obvious who are going to jump out in the front and try and lead town one way or another. We definitely have a mafia or two in the first couple of pages.
You sound confident, enough that I think you have your eye on someone already. Care to share as to who it may be? I may have my eye on a few people. From my experience, there are two type of mafia people: the lurkers, and the ones who like to come out first day and take control of town. I'm focusing on the latter because they are the ones to likely talk more, you can easily find their slips (if any), and they are also more likely to last longer than the lurker mafia. Why are you avoiding my question? I asked you to name your suspicions, but instead you give an indefinite answear and then babble on about something that could reasonably be figured out from your earlier post. If I'm avoiding your question, it's because I have a pretty good damn reason as to why. But because you are being persistant, the ones I have my eye on are Steveling, WaveofShadow and Tehpoofter. But this doesn't necessarily mean they are scum. I rather read more of their play and interactions before I straight out call someone mafia. The majority of these people I haven't played with, and this is my second forum game. If I don't have logic behind my reads, where does that put me? As a freaking town more likely to get mislynched. So hold your horses, let me get my reads, and then we'll talk. She has "a pretty damn good reason" to avoid my question, yet she anwears it. Earlier she said that "we definitely have a mafia or two" but now they are not necessarily scum. Brining out the newbie card, defending accusations that don't exist. I would definitely not call this post unguarded. Based on this I wouldn't clear bunnies so easily, but now you're interesting. What makes you think she was "unguarded" in this post? + Show Spoiler +For the annoyed thing, if she was slightly pissed at me, I would understand this kind of backlash. I agree that she made a terrible post there, my "unguarded" comment did not specifically relate to any one post in particular and more to her style of posting over all. My personal concern with her is actually her sudden clearing of me after I lightly defended her. It's waaaay too early in the game to say you won't lynch someone, even if you qualify it with D1. It still kinda baffles me that you could ignore such a heavy contrast to your generalization about bunnies play. Makes me think that you didn't actually put that much thought into it, which makes me think you might be scum. It's soon 2 AM here, so see you all tomorrow ______ From reading Jampi filter is goes like this: Jampi: Hey Bunnies I think you are scum. Let's interact. (interacting with scumread) Jampi: Hey MZ, do you agree with my scumread on Bunnies. (Interacts with MZ, gives MZ scumread for not seeing what he sees) This shows that jampi had a strong read on Bunnies at that time. Town mindset. On May 24 2014 05:35 sqrtofneg1 wrote:
I can't find anything of value imo in bkq's filter...
Also in MK's too.
I'm bad at using town filters. Is it me or is that like scumslip city
I don't understand. Elaborate?
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On May 24 2014 05:48 Xatalos wrote:Show nested quote +On May 24 2014 05:45 Cavalinho wrote:
Mercury is water.
Venus is earth.
Mars is fire.
Jupiter is wind.
Koshi's faction didn't kill anyone, so it was likely that the hit was blocked, either by medics, veterans, or other opposing roleblockers.
The Venus faction killed Koshi.
Mars killed bk.
Jupiter killed Meapak.
There was no flavor concerning if the adepts/town killed anyone. Either we don't have vigs, they got roleblocked, or they didn't shoot for whatever reason. Doesn't matter now, because scum already knows if they roleblocked the right people or not.
So why did those kills make sense to scum? Hmm... Could it be that the Mercury faction is neutral and doesn't have KP? (since Koshi's name was black instead of red) Or maybe their KP went to Steveling.
Possible, but I find that somewhat unlikely. (Unless the hosts are all fire adepts. >.> )
Unless we see something that indicates otherwise, we should just assume that all scum factions are equal and that all have KP. It's highly unlikely that the factions would be centered around the types of Djinn, only to have one gimped for no particular reason.
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On May 24 2014 06:56 Valenius wrote:Show nested quote +On May 24 2014 06:53 Steveling wrote:On May 24 2014 06:49 austinmcc wrote:On May 24 2014 06:45 Steveling wrote:On May 24 2014 06:42 austinmcc wrote:
Steveling. PLEASE. BH is not getting lynched today, not by the hairs on my chinny chin chin. He's unlikely mafia with what he's saying. PLEASE PLEASE PLEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEASE. No blue. No BH. No Isaac. No nothing.
Some people in this game are MAFIA. If you are town they want to SHOOT YOU IN THE FACE.
EVEN IN THE SCENARIO WHERE BH IS MAFIA, ALL THAT YOUR POSTING IS DOING IS LETTING MAFIA THROW A BUNCH OF CRAP INTO THE THREAD. IT'S NOT GOOD FOR THE THREAD AND IT'S ACTIVELY NOT GOOD FOR CATCHING BH IF HE'S MAFIA. IT'S JUST GOOD FOR MAKING A MESS.
Please please pleeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeease. I can super relate to being overly paranoid and finding connections in odd places. In my first large game, I thought one guy might be scum because he mentioned it was difficult to type. I found out that one of the villians in the show that was the theme had a bandaid on his head. I would not shut up for a day or so about how he was mafia, but did not know his teammates and they had to find each other, thus, he was signalling his teammates he was mafia by referring to the bandaid. It was not true. It was also incredibly ridiculous.
Really though that all caps paragraph. It's true. If he's mafia, this isn't helping to lynch him or catch him or anything. It's bad for us. If he's not mafia, still bad for us. All of this assumes right now that you are town. If you are mafia, carry on. I'm only asking why he revealed his role since he knew that he can be recruited. Is this a bad question? I will say that if he's truthful and says yes, then that's BAD FOR US BECAUSE SCUM COULD RECRUIT SOME DUDE THAT IS APPARENTLY IMPORTANT. If he's truthful and says no, then scum know not to try. If he lies, we're SOL anyway because we don't know what the truth is. We also have no way of telling whether he's truthful or lying. So at BEST it gives us nothing, and at WORST the more BH talks about this, the better an idea scum get of how to deal with BH and maybe slam and maybe that elderly heterosexual peruvian guy now. I am ALSO going to leave this spoiler here, and you should click it. + Show Spoiler +On May 24 2014 06:31 Steveling wrote:
Lmao.
Then why the fuck did you reveal this you idiot. On May 24 2014 06:34 Steveling wrote:Show nested quote +On May 24 2014 06:32 Blazinghand wrote:On May 24 2014 06:31 Steveling wrote:
Lmao.
Then why the fuck did you reveal this you idiot. Look, let's say someone was really, really townie D1. then he has a lax few days after that, but we cut him slack cause he was townie D1, right? Well shit man I want people to know what I know. There's no need to keep town in the dark. Scum already know I'm an important blue. Might as well share. But they didn't know that you can be controlled. Only thing they may know and I'm not sure about that is that Isaac role can be controlled by a djinni. And you revealed that as a joke in d1. I want to lynch you. On May 24 2014 06:35 Steveling wrote:Show nested quote +On May 24 2014 06:33 thrawn2112 wrote:
lets lynch BH for obviously getting recruited N1 Ditto. On May 24 2014 06:38 Steveling wrote:Show nested quote +On May 24 2014 06:36 Blazinghand wrote:On May 24 2014 06:34 Steveling wrote:On May 24 2014 06:32 Blazinghand wrote:On May 24 2014 06:31 Steveling wrote:
Lmao.
Then why the fuck did you reveal this you idiot. Look, let's say someone was really, really townie D1. then he has a lax few days after that, but we cut him slack cause he was townie D1, right? Well shit man I want people to know what I know. There's no need to keep town in the dark. Scum already know I'm an important blue. Might as well share. But they didn't know that you can be controlled. Only thing they may know and I'm not sure about that is that Isaac role can be controlled by a djinni. And you revealed that as a joke in d1. I want to lynch you. My Isaac roleclaim is not a joke. The only joke in here is your posting. Is this it? You are supposed to be trying now? Explain why the fuck would you reveal that you are Isaac d1 seemingly for no reason at all if you knew that your role can be controlled. Go ahead. On May 24 2014 06:40 Steveling wrote:Show nested quote +On May 24 2014 06:39 Blazinghand wrote:On May 24 2014 06:38 Steveling wrote:On May 24 2014 06:36 Blazinghand wrote:On May 24 2014 06:34 Steveling wrote:On May 24 2014 06:32 Blazinghand wrote:On May 24 2014 06:31 Steveling wrote:
Lmao.
Then why the fuck did you reveal this you idiot. Look, let's say someone was really, really townie D1. then he has a lax few days after that, but we cut him slack cause he was townie D1, right? Well shit man I want people to know what I know. There's no need to keep town in the dark. Scum already know I'm an important blue. Might as well share. But they didn't know that you can be controlled. Only thing they may know and I'm not sure about that is that Isaac role can be controlled by a djinni. And you revealed that as a joke in d1. I want to lynch you. My Isaac roleclaim is not a joke. The only joke in here is your posting. Is this it? You are supposed to be trying now? Explain why the fuck would you reveal that you are Isaac d1 seemingly for no reason at all if you knew that your role can be controlled. Go ahead. Unless you get enough people to vote me that I think I am getting lynched, I will respond to no further questions from anyone about anything related to my role. I'm questioning your fookin reasoning not you fookin role claim. Explain why you revealed your Isaac role as a joke to marv. On May 24 2014 06:42 Steveling wrote:Show nested quote +On May 24 2014 06:41 Blazinghand wrote:On May 24 2014 06:40 Steveling wrote:On May 24 2014 06:39 Blazinghand wrote:On May 24 2014 06:38 Steveling wrote:On May 24 2014 06:36 Blazinghand wrote:On May 24 2014 06:34 Steveling wrote:On May 24 2014 06:32 Blazinghand wrote:On May 24 2014 06:31 Steveling wrote:
Lmao.
Then why the fuck did you reveal this you idiot. Look, let's say someone was really, really townie D1. then he has a lax few days after that, but we cut him slack cause he was townie D1, right? Well shit man I want people to know what I know. There's no need to keep town in the dark. Scum already know I'm an important blue. Might as well share. But they didn't know that you can be controlled. Only thing they may know and I'm not sure about that is that Isaac role can be controlled by a djinni. And you revealed that as a joke in d1. I want to lynch you. My Isaac roleclaim is not a joke. The only joke in here is your posting. Is this it? You are supposed to be trying now? Explain why the fuck would you reveal that you are Isaac d1 seemingly for no reason at all if you knew that your role can be controlled. Go ahead. Unless you get enough people to vote me that I think I am getting lynched, I will respond to no further questions from anyone about anything related to my role. I'm questioning your fookin reasoning not you fookin role claim. Explain why you revealed your Isaac role as a joke to marv. As I said, the only joke in this thread is you're posting. *your On May 24 2014 06:44 Steveling wrote:Show nested quote +On May 24 2014 06:43 marvellosity wrote:
anyway BH and I are confirmed town to each other, so can we just stop this please? Or scum. and see whether it matches up with the question I'm responding to. Then I'm really going to get away from thread for a few hours. Since he specifically was told that he can be recruited that also means that the role that can recruit him received "you can recruit the Isaac role and do X things with him". This is why he shouldn't reveal his role under any pressure let alone as a joke d1. "You can be controlled by a djinn" .. doesn't mentioned recruitment.
This is something I was thinking. Maybe there's something like a witch in the game that can redirect people's night actions?
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We need to stop speculating on setup because we are just doing dumb things by yelling at ourselves.
Where is Foolishness? He promised us a case on kush if he lived and, lo' and behold, he lived. Let's get it out there so we can lynch him, because I don't really want kush to be alive much longer.
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On May 24 2014 07:48 marvellosity wrote:
we need to stop with the "scumtell in this setup" crap. it's so silly.
i'll be annoyed if ritoky is mafia, then i'll have to admit austin got it right :<
Do you legitimately think he's mafia or not?
It sounds like you're leaning towards the fact that he is but I have no idea if you're "joking" or not.
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Yeah I'm voting kush, let's go.
Sheep Foolishness you fools.
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Ugh.
We can only kill one person at a time guys. If there's a vigilante out there, shoot BlueyD after the lynch.
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On May 24 2014 09:15 marvellosity wrote:Show nested quote +On May 24 2014 09:14 Cavalinho wrote:
Ugh.
We can only kill one person at a time guys. If there's a vigilante out there, shoot BlueyD after the lynch. we're 4 hours into the dayphase? hello?
I don't understand what the issue is here.
Do you want neither of these players dead at this point?
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On May 24 2014 09:19 marvellosity wrote:Show nested quote +On May 24 2014 09:18 Cavalinho wrote:On May 24 2014 09:15 marvellosity wrote:On May 24 2014 09:14 Cavalinho wrote:
Ugh.
We can only kill one person at a time guys. If there's a vigilante out there, shoot BlueyD after the lynch. we're 4 hours into the dayphase? hello? I don't understand what the issue is here. Do you want neither of these players dead at this point? why are you advocating shooting someone after the lynch when they could actually be the lynch? nothing is decided yet and it's so early, it's such an odd thing to suggest
I don't really see how it's odd at all.
I think the bottom line is that I want both of these players dead, so I don't see what your issue is with me wanting to kill two at once.
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On May 24 2014 09:21 OnceKing wrote:
whoops i forgot to add blueyd to the list of people i wouldn't mind see dying today
cav who are your scum reads?
Kush and Bluey. Maybe Marv.
Maybe Marv.
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On May 24 2014 09:23 OnceKing wrote:
what're your opinions on tambo and ritoky? and why ma-- elderly heterosexual peruvian man?
I don't care about either of those players, tbh. Everybody else seems to be content grilling them so nothing I say will change anything, because nobody's really listening to me anyway.
Marv just feels off. I don't really like his explanation for his goading on the Odin wagon. I feel like he's been kinda sitting out of the spotlight and just poking holes in things rather than solving the game.
It's hard for me to make a case on Marv off the top of my head, so give me some time before I can fully elaborate.
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On May 25 2014 07:49 austinmcc wrote:
And HF, if you ever return, do some list making, and tell me whether any of these dudes should be removed from a list:
Erandorr
Meat
Jampi
Foolishness
Peruvian
Xat
With then possible folks like thrawn, cav, ceph, poofter, layabout, whoeverelseimissedanddidn'tgoreadrecently
What list am I on? The supertown list?
Yeah that sounds about right.
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I don't really see what else there is to talk about right now.
I have kush as scum and I don't think your reasons for letting him go are spectacular. I still want to lynch him, and kita's case on Bluey is pretty good too.
Also, fun fact, I like marv's last couple of posts and I now have him as town. So that's something, I guess.
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On May 25 2014 08:37 marvellosity wrote:Show nested quote +On May 25 2014 08:35 Cavalinho wrote:
I don't really see what else there is to talk about right now.
I have kush as scum and I don't think your reasons for letting him go are spectacular. I still want to lynch him, and kita's case on Bluey is pretty good too.
Also, fun fact, I like marv's last couple of posts and I now have him as town. So that's something, I guess. could you just tell me what you liked so i can confirm you're not bullshitting please? that would be lovely :p
Sure, whatever.
I'd say that your filter from page 11 onwards was pretty good. It wasn't really super content-heavy, but felt pretty genuine and it felt like you were developing your reads in a natural way and trying to put the pieces together correctly. Your content on jampi was something I didn't (care to) look for but it looked like good information to have in the thread in concern to his behavior.
That good?
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Rofl.
Alakaslam is awesome.
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I'm totally down to lynch thrawn over austin, fyi. Having austin around seems like it would be kinda useful if we forced him to move in the direction we wanted him to go.
Or we can just lynch austin. That's fine too, I guess.
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Hey guys apparently I have two votes now.
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On May 26 2014 04:06 BlueyD wrote:Show nested quote +On May 26 2014 04:05 Cavalinho wrote:
Hey guys apparently I have two votes now. When did you get that? Just now? Last night?
lol.
Love you Bluey.
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I'm gonna flip this, austin sounds useful. lol.
He's probably still getting lynched, but whatever.
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On May 26 2014 05:05 Xatalos wrote:
Koshi, aligned to Mercury was crushed by solid rock!
bkqyrldp, aligned with the Adepts was charred to a crisp!
Meapak_Ziphh, aligned with the Adepts was electrocuted
So...
Mars = fire (killed blfsjfkfsjfs last night - random KP?)
Mercury = ?
Venus = ?
Jupiter = ?
We've been over this.
Jupiter is wind and targeted Meapak.
Mercury was blocked.
Venus killed Koshi.
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Okay, so what else is there to even talk about at this point?
Do kush/thrawn still need to die or what?
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On May 26 2014 08:34 Erandorr wrote:
Man I wish a girl playing mafia would notice me too. I havent given up yet! Also this has degenerated from IRC Mafia into something else. SC2 Mafia?
No way it's gotten that bad.
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On May 26 2014 08:59 Xatalos wrote:
I like SC2 Mafia. It's what got me into TL Mafia. Sometimes you get troll setups and quite often you get a player list full of trolls, but sometimes there are some really epic games.
Pretty much.
Still doesn't erase the fact that SC2 mafia is really just a start and that most of the players are still idiots.
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On May 26 2014 09:09 sqrtofneg1 wrote:
What is this sc2 mafia?
A custom map type on Starcraft 2, it's where most of us started.
SC2 mafia is really just a measure of matching up roles with the role list at the top of the screen. It's way easier than this. Way easier.
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On May 26 2014 09:19 Xatalos wrote:Show nested quote +On May 26 2014 09:09 Holyflare wrote:
I started on sc2 mafia. Roflstomped every game. I once won like 6 games in a row. It's a bit dependent on luck too though. Usually there's like Mafia, SK, Arsonist etc. A ton of power roles. The night actions have a huge impact on the game.
The night actions are the game.
I don't think I've ever been in a game where it came down to outarguing someone, especially since days only last 2 minutes or so.
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On May 26 2014 10:00 sqrtofneg1 wrote:
My second list of reads was additional reads.
My shot? I think I would shoot jampi, but maybe someone like cav.
Why are you so obsessed with trying to kill me?
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On May 26 2014 10:08 sqrtofneg1 wrote:Show nested quote +On May 26 2014 10:08 Cavalinho wrote:On May 26 2014 10:00 sqrtofneg1 wrote:
My second list of reads was additional reads.
My shot? I think I would shoot jampi, but maybe someone like cav. Why are you so obsessed with trying to kill me? Maybe because I think you're mafia?
Why?
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Kitaman confirmed town hero.
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lol.
This lynch is dumb. I'm not gonna lynch bunnies.
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I was never even aware of the fact that Xatalos claimed anything.
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I don't know, I just kinda filed him under "town" really early and then stopped reading everything he was saying.
Probably shouldn't do that, but whatever.
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On May 27 2014 04:37 Xatalos wrote:Show nested quote +On May 27 2014 04:36 marvellosity wrote:
as in, tehpoofter, I'm not randomly calling you gay >.>
You're kinda gay though.
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This just in: Xatalos is confirmed gay.
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On May 27 2014 04:54 layabout wrote:
geript hasn't claimed his shot in this time period, another thing that doesn't add up if he is a town vig.
if his shot goes through it has to be mafia kp
It depends on the flavor of the kill.
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Fire KP is gone/was blocked.
Mercury still isn't killing people.
Jupiter killed ritoky.
Venus killed marv.
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On May 27 2014 05:02 layabout wrote:Show nested quote +On May 27 2014 04:58 Cavalinho wrote:On May 27 2014 04:54 layabout wrote:
geript hasn't claimed his shot in this time period, another thing that doesn't add up if he is a town vig.
if his shot goes through it has to be mafia kp It depends on the flavor of the kill. show me where it says that and that wouldn't change any of the many reasons geript is a liar
Geript either isn't a vig or got roleblocked again.
Time to start asking questions.
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Just make Golden Sun 1.1 or something. Idk.
I'm done for a while probably.
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On May 27 2014 05:24 ShiaoPi wrote:
I am really really sorry, but I also thought it would be unfair to modkill two players who did nothing wrong, when the screw-up was mine.
Well, there it goes I guess.
Besides my brainfart, how was the game to you guys in general?
You should just host a second one starting right now to make up for it. Idk.
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How come nobody recruited me, I'm recruitable T.T
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EPT
