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Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
May 21 2014 19:47 GMT
#1470
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/mafia/440546-golden-sun-the-lost-age-mafia-djinn-edition?page=72#1440

i think i'd be fine with a layabout vote tbh
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
May 21 2014 19:52 GMT
#1479
On May 22 2014 04:51 bkqyrldp wrote:
I don't think BH's claim makes him town, but lynching him today would still be bad play. Having said that, his only mafia reads both look town to me; Odin for his first post, tone and the confidence when he states he has done more in 5 posts than BH in 3 filter pages. BH's reasons for thinking Geript are particularly laughable and look opportunistic. It doesn't look like he actually bothered to read Geript's filter. Anyway, not a priority today.

Jampi still looks bad for the reasons the other head mentioned, as does Austin for fluffy and underwhelming content, in contrast with what I've seen from him as town recently. Essentially all of his reads so far have been in response to someone specifically asking him for them rather him being proactive.


dat mass sheeping
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
May 21 2014 20:00 GMT
#1487
austin we aren't going to lynch claimed blue bh and we aren't going to lynch foolishness who is doing stuff so instead of asking people random questions about these people can you actually look into the people that other people want to lynch and talk about who you'd like to lynch?
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
May 21 2014 20:02 GMT
#1490
i'm also not going to speculate about names and alignments of those names until i see more than one faction/person/name flip
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
May 21 2014 20:02 GMT
#1491
On May 22 2014 05:01 Steveling wrote:
HF you really think foolishness play is towny?


it's productive and not as bad as the people i want to lynch
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
May 21 2014 20:10 GMT
#1499
On May 22 2014 05:08 marvellosity wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 22 2014 03:35 Steveling wrote:
Koshi, HF, Marvel you were right here 10mins ago.
Thoughs on recent turn of events?

I went to work out my sexy bum and abs. These things don't maintain themselves you know.


pics or it didn't happen
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
May 21 2014 20:55 GMT
#1534
On May 22 2014 05:46 bkqyrldp wrote:
Austin needs to stop enabling this stupid RNG discussion. And HF needs to stop pestering sqrt who is likely towny.

People on top of my lynch list currently are jampi ritoky and austin. I'd like marv HF and fool to comment on those 3 for me. And austin in case you are town you can start doing something useful and comment on the other 2.


jampi hasn't really done anything scummy imo but he hasn't really done... anything either so it's a ? but i'm not sure i'd vote him over layabout who has only talked about faction speculation and this post:

On May 21 2014 12:33 layabout wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 21 2014 11:55 Cephiro wrote:
On May 21 2014 11:50 Holyflare wrote:
Her response is quite interesting. She does correctly analyze on scenario, that is, if I didn't have a proper read and wanted to gain more information on her. There are many others she does not think about however. What I'm most interested in, is this crucial miss: She does not at all consider a possibility where I am scum. Ding ding, alarm bells anyone?


this is the part of your case where you assume something completely wild and out of the blue cephiro that is so off tangent to the original question that it doesn't make sense and then the rest of your case is entirely based off of this


How is not considering the possibility of someone voting on you being scum completely wild? She literally ignores the possibility of me being scum voting on her, as proved by her own thought process. They were my first posts in the game and I instantly pressured/attacked her. And she didn't even think of the possibility of me being scum. Like literally, all her responses screamed that I was town to her. There is no way she could be that sure I am town by just exchanging a post or two with her by that stage.

Care to elaborate on your reasoning why it's a completely wild assumption and debunks the whole case?

Her posts are logically consistent and represent a reasonable approach to the game particularly for a new player - not wanting to call people scum before you are confident or have had enough time to make an argument that is worth consideration by others. Her tone is generally good and her posting is on the productive side as far as the thread goes.

However Your point that she does not consider that you are scum voting for her is significant. She immediately talks to you as if she thinks you are town which is not the typical reaction to being voted for. The interpreting your vote as a mafia read could just be how ninja uses language but it also suggests guilt.

And that is my opinion on you case.

Pls shoot people that post like austin's hula stuff, it's tempting to go with gut scum reads but town kp is our only way to effectively deal with that crap and in large games the tone of the thread and proportion of inactives and shitposters has a ridiculous impact.


The red is where he says bunnies posting is consistant, logical, doesn't want to jump to calling people scum without talking more which are all towny things to do. The green is where he contradicts himself in the same post saying that the previous calculated, collected and logical tone is actually significantly scummy. It doesn't make sense.

I want to call him mafia but... I don't think it would be this blatant but there's really nothing else to go on in his filter that says otherwise.
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
May 21 2014 20:56 GMT
#1535
oh god damn it, at least i actually used colour
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
May 21 2014 21:03 GMT
#1536
On May 22 2014 05:46 bkqyrldp wrote:
Austin needs to stop enabling this stupid RNG discussion. And HF needs to stop pestering sqrt who is likely towny.

People on top of my lynch list currently are jampi ritoky and austin. I'd like marv HF and fool to comment on those 3 for me. And austin in case you are town you can start doing something useful and comment on the other 2.


oh yeh, why is ritoky in your list?

austin i would probably lynch today if push came to shove wayyyyyyyyyyyy too much focus on this bh rng thing even though he's claimed blue
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
May 21 2014 21:08 GMT
#1540
On May 22 2014 06:04 bkqyrldp wrote:
HF, take a look at jampi's 3 other games as town. The way he enters the thread as townie is much more inquisitive. This game the aggression and suspicion throwing he uses is way over the top and unwarranted. It looks fake. Unfortunatelly I can't find a mafia game of his to back this up more.


i've looked at some and noticed he gets lynched day 1/2 a lot, some of them also have a similar vibe to this game but i won't know more until he's posted a big post about reads on people with actual reasoning
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
May 21 2014 21:08 GMT
#1542
On May 22 2014 06:07 Alakaslam wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 22 2014 06:03 Holyflare wrote:
On May 22 2014 05:46 bkqyrldp wrote:
Austin needs to stop enabling this stupid RNG discussion. And HF needs to stop pestering sqrt who is likely towny.

People on top of my lynch list currently are jampi ritoky and austin. I'd like marv HF and fool to comment on those 3 for me. And austin in case you are town you can start doing something useful and comment on the other 2.


oh yeh, why is ritoky in your list?

austin i would probably lynch today if push came to shove wayyyyyyyyyyyy too much focus on this bh rng thing even though he's claimed blue

Where did this happen?


in this game
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
May 21 2014 22:05 GMT
#1579
just saying tambo is a guy ~_~
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
May 21 2014 22:42 GMT
#1645
Why are you pushing so hard on ritoky austin? He's clearly sheeping the feeling that bunnies is going back and forth from scummy to null for himself.
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
May 21 2014 22:43 GMT
#1646
"last game she oozed town"
"this game she's back and forth between scummy and null"
"tambo said that and i agree!"
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
May 21 2014 22:44 GMT
#1647
Doesn't seem scummy to me honestly and koshi pretty much outlined what i felt
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
May 21 2014 23:02 GMT
#1666
On May 22 2014 07:48 Meapak_Ziphh wrote:
@BH: it's only supposed to be for D1, the point is since you're such a mafia god it shouldn't be too hard to get your primary only scum read lynched, especially now that you've claimed and are clearly, totally innocent.

Show nested quote +
On May 22 2014 07:37 WaveofShadow wrote:
On May 22 2014 07:34 Meapak_Ziphh wrote:
On May 22 2014 07:32 WaveofShadow wrote:
This would be such an amazing game to be scum.
Somebody besides Austin give me something to do mebbe?
I dunno I feel like a dumb American watching a game of cricket right now.

Hey Wave I have something for you, pick up your game
You've made me so sad so far

Yay I was mentioned in a 5k post!

I dunno I'm legit having a shit time right now. What have you got besides memorializing me forever in your milestone post?

Who are the serious candidates right now that I should look into? I feel like layabout is one of them but to me that essentially amounts to lurker lynch I thinks. Who else?

People I think could definitely be red:
Layabout
Val

People I don't have good feelings about:
Slam
Bunnies

One of these three is probably red but I don't feel like figuring it out atm:
Steve
HF
Hapa


Look at these people wave, that should give you something at least.


can you explain this crazy unexplained thing?
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
May 21 2014 23:06 GMT
#1675
On May 22 2014 08:03 Hapahauli wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 22 2014 08:00 Cavalinho wrote:
WoS, look into Steveling. HF is town and Hapa is also probably town.

I'm boggled by the fact that marv said having a huge filter is good for town. It's not when there's nothing there but useless garbage that clogs up the thread and doesn't accomplish anything.

Also, who said we should lynch layabout? When you're talking about a guy that gets lynched day 1/2 a lot, maybe, just maybe you should take the quality of their play into consideration. Maybe I'm biased because I got lynched day 1 a lot for stupid reasons, but I still really want to kill Steveling today over anything and everything else for the moment.

I'd be really wary of people who say that just having a big filter is good for town.


Steveling would be a terrible lynch. I get that you don't like his play, and his play is very spammy, but it's also very clearly town. Just because his spam is "contentless" doesn't mean it isn't genuine. Look at some of his other games - he plays like that all the time.


where are you gettin this info from? The database only has 2 of his games in it and they are both scum,

Surprisingly Normal Mini Mafia VII Mafia Framer Survived
Cell Mini Mafia Mafia Vanilla Survived Day 3

The only game he's played town in is in yuma where he was just spammy because he thought he caught someone and was being stubborn. I get that he looks towny this game but why are you implying this is "obvious town meta"?
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
May 21 2014 23:20 GMT
#1690
btw didn't slam claim blue?
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
May 21 2014 23:21 GMT
#1693
On May 22 2014 08:06 Holyflare wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 22 2014 08:03 Hapahauli wrote:
On May 22 2014 08:00 Cavalinho wrote:
WoS, look into Steveling. HF is town and Hapa is also probably town.

I'm boggled by the fact that marv said having a huge filter is good for town. It's not when there's nothing there but useless garbage that clogs up the thread and doesn't accomplish anything.

Also, who said we should lynch layabout? When you're talking about a guy that gets lynched day 1/2 a lot, maybe, just maybe you should take the quality of their play into consideration. Maybe I'm biased because I got lynched day 1 a lot for stupid reasons, but I still really want to kill Steveling today over anything and everything else for the moment.

I'd be really wary of people who say that just having a big filter is good for town.


Steveling would be a terrible lynch. I get that you don't like his play, and his play is very spammy, but it's also very clearly town. Just because his spam is "contentless" doesn't mean it isn't genuine. Look at some of his other games - he plays like that all the time.


where are you gettin this info from? The database only has 2 of his games in it and they are both scum,

Surprisingly Normal Mini Mafia VII Mafia Framer Survived
Cell Mini Mafia Mafia Vanilla Survived Day 3

The only game he's played town in is in yuma where he was just spammy because he thought he caught someone and was being stubborn. I get that he looks towny this game but why are you implying this is "obvious town meta"?


hapa you need to answer this ^^^^^^

replace yuma with glory seeker
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
May 21 2014 23:23 GMT
#1695
On May 22 2014 07:12 Alakaslam wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 22 2014 06:44 27ninjabunnies wrote:
Just got off of work!!!

Read a bit through the forum while I was working, but going to quickly reread it again, so it'll be about 15-20mins to look through everything. If there is anything you want me to focus on, let me know.

Also, BH. Wtf? You claim a BLUE role when only 3 votes on you?
How...stupid... is .... that....

But we claimed not roles, but names. So here is te thing; it is WIFOM for scum. Who do they shoot? Me? BH? Why? What if we are doc saves? What if we are docs- therefore the perfect shot?

See what happened here is we claimed "blue".
But what does that let out to scum that can't be nullified by other blues in a game this size? Now if BH was not BH but rather some newb and said "folks I b doc" now that is sstupid.

Because then scum is like "o g thanks"

But as it is scum is like "YES WE HAVE TWO POWER ROLES CLAIMED LETS SHOOT" and then the other guy says "no stfu you idiot they could be veterans, we need stack shots" and other guy says "u fill of shut they are fakeclaiming" and another guy says "someone actually dying is more important. BH is a strong player so you know doc saves will be on him, but we don't want Alakaslam dead too early because we need our lylo lynch, so shoot outside those two"

And the qt gets hard to read XD


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