I said that burini/layabout are good lynches.
I need to filter some more people that I have not interacted with to give more names, gimme some time.
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Steveling
Greece10806 Posts
May 21 2014 20:33 GMT
#1521
I said that burini/layabout are good lynches. I need to filter some more people that I have not interacted with to give more names, gimme some time. | ||
marvellosity
United Kingdom36156 Posts
May 21 2014 20:36 GMT
#1522
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Steveling
Greece10806 Posts
May 21 2014 20:42 GMT
#1523
He jumped on rng plan after he spent many posts denouncing it. Fluff posts. Some point later he jumped on me, I'm obviously an ez target though and he didn't even explain why. The really suspicious "but there are more than one scum factions in this game" thing. More fluff posts. Not even a 2nd page of filter. | ||
bkqyrldp
49 Posts
May 21 2014 20:46 GMT
#1524
People on top of my lynch list currently are jampi ritoky and austin. I'd like marv HF and fool to comment on those 3 for me. And austin in case you are town you can start doing something useful and comment on the other 2. | ||
Koshi
Belgium38797 Posts
May 21 2014 20:47 GMT
#1525
Why is layabout town? | ||
Steveling
Greece10806 Posts
May 21 2014 20:48 GMT
#1526
austinmcc gives me scum vibes, can't quite put my finger on it though. | ||
bkqyrldp
49 Posts
May 21 2014 20:49 GMT
#1527
On May 21 2014 12:33 layabout wrote: Show nested quote + On May 21 2014 11:55 Cephiro wrote: On May 21 2014 11:50 Holyflare wrote: Her response is quite interesting. She does correctly analyze on scenario, that is, if I didn't have a proper read and wanted to gain more information on her. There are many others she does not think about however. What I'm most interested in, is this crucial miss: She does not at all consider a possibility where I am scum. Ding ding, alarm bells anyone? this is the part of your case where you assume something completely wild and out of the blue cephiro that is so off tangent to the original question that it doesn't make sense and then the rest of your case is entirely based off of this How is not considering the possibility of someone voting on you being scum completely wild? She literally ignores the possibility of me being scum voting on her, as proved by her own thought process. They were my first posts in the game and I instantly pressured/attacked her. And she didn't even think of the possibility of me being scum. Like literally, all her responses screamed that I was town to her. There is no way she could be that sure I am town by just exchanging a post or two with her by that stage. Care to elaborate on your reasoning why it's a completely wild assumption and debunks the whole case? Her posts are logically consistent and represent a reasonable approach to the game particularly for a new player - not wanting to call people scum before you are confident or have had enough time to make an argument that is worth consideration by others. Her tone is generally good and her posting is on the productive side as far as the thread goes. However Your point that she does not consider that you are scum voting for her is significant. She immediately talks to you as if she thinks you are town which is not the typical reaction to being voted for. The interpreting your vote as a mafia read could just be how ninja uses language but it also suggests guilt. And that is my opinion on you case. Pls shoot people that post like austin's hula stuff, it's tempting to go with gut scum reads but town kp is our only way to effectively deal with that crap and in large games the tone of the thread and proportion of inactives and shitposters has a ridiculous impact. I like this post. I'd like to hear more from laya. | ||
marvellosity
United Kingdom36156 Posts
May 21 2014 20:52 GMT
#1528
On May 22 2014 05:49 bkqyrldp wrote: Show nested quote + On May 21 2014 12:33 layabout wrote: On May 21 2014 11:55 Cephiro wrote: On May 21 2014 11:50 Holyflare wrote: Her response is quite interesting. She does correctly analyze on scenario, that is, if I didn't have a proper read and wanted to gain more information on her. There are many others she does not think about however. What I'm most interested in, is this crucial miss: She does not at all consider a possibility where I am scum. Ding ding, alarm bells anyone? this is the part of your case where you assume something completely wild and out of the blue cephiro that is so off tangent to the original question that it doesn't make sense and then the rest of your case is entirely based off of this How is not considering the possibility of someone voting on you being scum completely wild? She literally ignores the possibility of me being scum voting on her, as proved by her own thought process. They were my first posts in the game and I instantly pressured/attacked her. And she didn't even think of the possibility of me being scum. Like literally, all her responses screamed that I was town to her. There is no way she could be that sure I am town by just exchanging a post or two with her by that stage. Care to elaborate on your reasoning why it's a completely wild assumption and debunks the whole case? Her posts are logically consistent and represent a reasonable approach to the game particularly for a new player - not wanting to call people scum before you are confident or have had enough time to make an argument that is worth consideration by others. Her tone is generally good and her posting is on the productive side as far as the thread goes. However Your point that she does not consider that you are scum voting for her is significant. She immediately talks to you as if she thinks you are town which is not the typical reaction to being voted for. The interpreting your vote as a mafia read could just be how ninja uses language but it also suggests guilt. And that is my opinion on you case. Pls shoot people that post like austin's hula stuff, it's tempting to go with gut scum reads but town kp is our only way to effectively deal with that crap and in large games the tone of the thread and proportion of inactives and shitposters has a ridiculous impact. I like this post. I'd like to hear more from laya. I'm curious what you like about it? As far as I see it, this post says this: First para: She is not suspicious Second para: She is suspicious Third para: This is my conclusion (she is suspicious and not suspicious) Fourth para: Shoot austin who has barely spam posted but posted 2 pictures. I actually think the post is terrible for paras 1-3, because it basically just says yes and no without actually coming to a conclusion himself on tamb's alignment. | ||
Koshi
Belgium38797 Posts
May 21 2014 20:52 GMT
#1529
On May 22 2014 05:49 bkqyrldp wrote: Show nested quote + On May 21 2014 12:33 layabout wrote: On May 21 2014 11:55 Cephiro wrote: On May 21 2014 11:50 Holyflare wrote: Her response is quite interesting. She does correctly analyze on scenario, that is, if I didn't have a proper read and wanted to gain more information on her. There are many others she does not think about however. What I'm most interested in, is this crucial miss: She does not at all consider a possibility where I am scum. Ding ding, alarm bells anyone? this is the part of your case where you assume something completely wild and out of the blue cephiro that is so off tangent to the original question that it doesn't make sense and then the rest of your case is entirely based off of this How is not considering the possibility of someone voting on you being scum completely wild? She literally ignores the possibility of me being scum voting on her, as proved by her own thought process. They were my first posts in the game and I instantly pressured/attacked her. And she didn't even think of the possibility of me being scum. Like literally, all her responses screamed that I was town to her. There is no way she could be that sure I am town by just exchanging a post or two with her by that stage. Care to elaborate on your reasoning why it's a completely wild assumption and debunks the whole case? Her posts are logically consistent and represent a reasonable approach to the game particularly for a new player - not wanting to call people scum before you are confident or have had enough time to make an argument that is worth consideration by others. Her tone is generally good and her posting is on the productive side as far as the thread goes. However Your point that she does not consider that you are scum voting for her is significant. She immediately talks to you as if she thinks you are town which is not the typical reaction to being voted for. The interpreting your vote as a mafia read could just be how ninja uses language but it also suggests guilt. And that is my opinion on you case. Pls shoot people that post like austin's hula stuff, it's tempting to go with gut scum reads but town kp is our only way to effectively deal with that crap and in large games the tone of the thread and proportion of inactives and shitposters has a ridiculous impact. I like this post. I'd like to hear more from laya. What do you like about the bolded? | ||
marvellosity
United Kingdom36156 Posts
May 21 2014 20:52 GMT
#1530
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Koshi
Belgium38797 Posts
May 21 2014 20:53 GMT
#1531
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bkqyrldp
49 Posts
May 21 2014 20:54 GMT
#1532
On May 22 2014 05:52 marvellosity wrote: Show nested quote + On May 22 2014 05:49 bkqyrldp wrote: On May 21 2014 12:33 layabout wrote: On May 21 2014 11:55 Cephiro wrote: On May 21 2014 11:50 Holyflare wrote: Her response is quite interesting. She does correctly analyze on scenario, that is, if I didn't have a proper read and wanted to gain more information on her. There are many others she does not think about however. What I'm most interested in, is this crucial miss: She does not at all consider a possibility where I am scum. Ding ding, alarm bells anyone? this is the part of your case where you assume something completely wild and out of the blue cephiro that is so off tangent to the original question that it doesn't make sense and then the rest of your case is entirely based off of this How is not considering the possibility of someone voting on you being scum completely wild? She literally ignores the possibility of me being scum voting on her, as proved by her own thought process. They were my first posts in the game and I instantly pressured/attacked her. And she didn't even think of the possibility of me being scum. Like literally, all her responses screamed that I was town to her. There is no way she could be that sure I am town by just exchanging a post or two with her by that stage. Care to elaborate on your reasoning why it's a completely wild assumption and debunks the whole case? Her posts are logically consistent and represent a reasonable approach to the game particularly for a new player - not wanting to call people scum before you are confident or have had enough time to make an argument that is worth consideration by others. Her tone is generally good and her posting is on the productive side as far as the thread goes. However Your point that she does not consider that you are scum voting for her is significant. She immediately talks to you as if she thinks you are town which is not the typical reaction to being voted for. The interpreting your vote as a mafia read could just be how ninja uses language but it also suggests guilt. And that is my opinion on you case. Pls shoot people that post like austin's hula stuff, it's tempting to go with gut scum reads but town kp is our only way to effectively deal with that crap and in large games the tone of the thread and proportion of inactives and shitposters has a ridiculous impact. I like this post. I'd like to hear more from laya. I'm curious what you like about it? As far as I see it, this post says this: First para: She is not suspicious Second para: She is suspicious Third para: This is my conclusion (she is suspicious and not suspicious) Fourth para: Shoot austin who has barely spam posted but posted 2 pictures. I actually think the post is terrible for paras 1-3, because it basically just says yes and no without actually coming to a conclusion himself on tamb's alignment. I actually like the first paragraph more. But it shows someone trying to figure out the game. 2nd para I disagree with, but still shows a natural thought process. I'm not saying laya is town for sure but I would like to hear more from him before I decide if I want to lynch him. Now can you tell me about the 3 I asked you about? | ||
kushm4sta
United States8878 Posts
May 21 2014 20:55 GMT
#1533
On May 21 2014 11:25 Hapahauli wrote: + Show Spoiler + Ok Valenius can wait. http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/mafia/440546-golden-sun-the-lost-age-mafia-djinn-edition?page=33#650 This is the scummiest post in this thread by far. It is extremely long, and could not be more useless. He's making a show of contributing to the town without actually providing anything in the way of analysis. There's nothing constructive posting one's "reads" in this manner. It's just a giant mind-dump with a bunch of quotes - a format that no one could possibly pick any useful information out of. On top of it, the actual content of the post just shits and shits on random things that players have said in the game. It's a very common type of post for mafia to make, and I'd like to see this guy dead. ##Unvote ##Vote mtanburini On May 21 2014 11:50 Hapahauli wrote: Show nested quote + On May 21 2014 11:43 27ninjabunnies wrote: See, I don't find tamburini's post all that bad. Sure it was only focused on certain people, one of them including me, but its nt unlikely for him to include me specifically in his reads because we play video mafia together. Some of his reads were pretty good, and I like it questioning, though I completely agree some of it was filler. The problem with his post isn't necessarily that every little bit of info is terrible. The problem is the presentation and scope. Firstly, it's almost designed to be the least efficient/effective way of communicating one's reads/information. When a townie finds someone suspicious, they are generally direct about it "I find <xxx> town, and <yyy> suspicious, for <zzz> reason." However this post is just a clusterfuck. His reads are buried in the middle of irrelevant banter, and hell he changes his mind on reads of the course of his post! The post is not designed to be helpful - it's designed to be massive and showy. Ergo, he's trying to appear like he's contributing without actually contributing. Secondly, the scope of the post is just a mess. He just finds random things in the thread that he doesn't agree with and is really snarky about them. That's a really common mafia tactic - to find a bunch of things to critique/shit-on in the thread. It gives the effect of making one appear to contribute, when in reality, nitpicking several posters is generally easy, creates paranoia, and serves no real constructive purpose to actually finding mafia. | ||
Holyflare
United Kingdom30774 Posts
May 21 2014 20:55 GMT
#1534
On May 22 2014 05:46 bkqyrldp wrote: Austin needs to stop enabling this stupid RNG discussion. And HF needs to stop pestering sqrt who is likely towny. People on top of my lynch list currently are jampi ritoky and austin. I'd like marv HF and fool to comment on those 3 for me. And austin in case you are town you can start doing something useful and comment on the other 2. jampi hasn't really done anything scummy imo but he hasn't really done... anything either so it's a ? but i'm not sure i'd vote him over layabout who has only talked about faction speculation and this post: On May 21 2014 12:33 layabout wrote: Show nested quote + On May 21 2014 11:55 Cephiro wrote: On May 21 2014 11:50 Holyflare wrote: Her response is quite interesting. She does correctly analyze on scenario, that is, if I didn't have a proper read and wanted to gain more information on her. There are many others she does not think about however. What I'm most interested in, is this crucial miss: She does not at all consider a possibility where I am scum. Ding ding, alarm bells anyone? this is the part of your case where you assume something completely wild and out of the blue cephiro that is so off tangent to the original question that it doesn't make sense and then the rest of your case is entirely based off of this How is not considering the possibility of someone voting on you being scum completely wild? She literally ignores the possibility of me being scum voting on her, as proved by her own thought process. They were my first posts in the game and I instantly pressured/attacked her. And she didn't even think of the possibility of me being scum. Like literally, all her responses screamed that I was town to her. There is no way she could be that sure I am town by just exchanging a post or two with her by that stage. Care to elaborate on your reasoning why it's a completely wild assumption and debunks the whole case? Her posts are logically consistent and represent a reasonable approach to the game particularly for a new player - not wanting to call people scum before you are confident or have had enough time to make an argument that is worth consideration by others. Her tone is generally good and her posting is on the productive side as far as the thread goes. However Your point that she does not consider that you are scum voting for her is significant. She immediately talks to you as if she thinks you are town which is not the typical reaction to being voted for. The interpreting your vote as a mafia read could just be how ninja uses language but it also suggests guilt. And that is my opinion on you case. Pls shoot people that post like austin's hula stuff, it's tempting to go with gut scum reads but town kp is our only way to effectively deal with that crap and in large games the tone of the thread and proportion of inactives and shitposters has a ridiculous impact. The red is where he says bunnies posting is consistant, logical, doesn't want to jump to calling people scum without talking more which are all towny things to do. The green is where he contradicts himself in the same post saying that the previous calculated, collected and logical tone is actually significantly scummy. It doesn't make sense. I want to call him mafia but... I don't think it would be this blatant but there's really nothing else to go on in his filter that says otherwise. | ||
Holyflare
United Kingdom30774 Posts
May 21 2014 20:56 GMT
#1535
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Holyflare
United Kingdom30774 Posts
May 21 2014 21:03 GMT
#1536
On May 22 2014 05:46 bkqyrldp wrote: Austin needs to stop enabling this stupid RNG discussion. And HF needs to stop pestering sqrt who is likely towny. People on top of my lynch list currently are jampi ritoky and austin. I'd like marv HF and fool to comment on those 3 for me. And austin in case you are town you can start doing something useful and comment on the other 2. oh yeh, why is ritoky in your list? austin i would probably lynch today if push came to shove wayyyyyyyyyyyy too much focus on this bh rng thing even though he's claimed blue | ||
bkqyrldp
49 Posts
May 21 2014 21:04 GMT
#1537
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Alakaslam
United States17322 Posts
May 21 2014 21:06 GMT
#1538
I GOT A META TO LIVE SSON It doesn't work to not have me post some madness now & then. Did you forget about electricity, and dimensions of thinking? How many dimensions? | ||
Alakaslam
United States17322 Posts
May 21 2014 21:07 GMT
#1539
On May 22 2014 06:03 Holyflare wrote: Show nested quote + On May 22 2014 05:46 bkqyrldp wrote: Austin needs to stop enabling this stupid RNG discussion. And HF needs to stop pestering sqrt who is likely towny. People on top of my lynch list currently are jampi ritoky and austin. I'd like marv HF and fool to comment on those 3 for me. And austin in case you are town you can start doing something useful and comment on the other 2. oh yeh, why is ritoky in your list? austin i would probably lynch today if push came to shove wayyyyyyyyyyyy too much focus on this bh rng thing even though he's claimed blue Where did this happen? | ||
Holyflare
United Kingdom30774 Posts
May 21 2014 21:08 GMT
#1540
On May 22 2014 06:04 bkqyrldp wrote: HF, take a look at jampi's 3 other games as town. The way he enters the thread as townie is much more inquisitive. This game the aggression and suspicion throwing he uses is way over the top and unwarranted. It looks fake. Unfortunatelly I can't find a mafia game of his to back this up more. i've looked at some and noticed he gets lynched day 1/2 a lot, some of them also have a similar vibe to this game but i won't know more until he's posted a big post about reads on people with actual reasoning | ||
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