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We could have fixed this.
We could have fixed this.
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Bluey, if you're going to accuse me, at least get the context of my posts correct.
First of all, I never really spoke against a lynch on Odin. Ever. I never even mentioned the lynch on Odin because I thought RNG was dumb and I thought Steveling was scum for some stuff he pulled early game. The only time I brought it up was because BH posted his case about his disconnect with the game and I thought that he had something there. Obviously, I was wrong and so was everyone else on that lynch.
Secondly, you took that third post out of context. Way out of context. That was an explanation for someone else and you said something about votecounts which doesn't really make any sense when quoted with the case you posted.
Finally, you act like I have to tunnel people out of the game. After my warning, I decided to try and make a conscious decision to clean my play up and just be nicer...Generally. I didn't/don't feel like tunneling another player out of the game and I had my doubts about the lynches from the start, with the exception of mtam. (Who is getting shot tonight.)
Your entire case boils down to "he was on a lynch he didn't like," and it's kind of true. Doesn't make me mafia, and doesn't indicate a scum mindset at all. Not liking lynch targets doesn't make me scum, and nothing you posted actually points to me being mafia in any way.
I feel like I've been really honest with what I've been doing and my intentions of trying to be a nicer/better player overall. I hope that quenches any concerns you have.
(Also apologies to the people I pissed off before. :< )
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On May 23 2014 14:00 BlueyD wrote: If you had doubts about the lynches from the start with the exception of mtam... why didn't you vote mtam?
I really only provided that analysis with the benefit of hindsight. By the time I didn't really want Odin to die anymore, it was far and away too late to save him. What, you think people were going to listen to me and flip to someone else at the last second? Nobody even bothered listening to me about anything I've said this game sans rage, so whatever.
Besides, mtam is most likely going to die tonight regardless. He's a good shot, if nothing else than for information.
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Mostly context. It was a really easy bandwagon to hop on for, case or no case. Odin wasn't doing anything all day, and I generally felt like he was just a townie away from the game or whatever towards the end.
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Kush is lurking just like he did in Yuma. He isn't the aggressive over-the-top town kush that I've played with before. Hopefully medics save Foolishness so he posts his case and then we lynch him. The hydra will elaborate better on kush than I ever could.
Steveling is probably town, albeit his opening was really scummy. His vote analysis was enough to warrant calling him town.
Mtam is getting shot tonight so I'm not worried about him at all.
Marv's comment on pushing Odin was mega-scummy imo. Pushing people just because they can't defend themselves is bad for obvious reasons, and as one of the "vets" you think he would've known that. He was kind of laid back for most of day 1 so idk, I'll try reading into him later.
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Mercury is water. Venus is earth. Mars is fire. Jupiter is wind.
Koshi's faction didn't kill anyone, so it was likely that the hit was blocked, either by medics, veterans, or other opposing roleblockers.
The Venus faction killed Koshi. Mars killed bk. Jupiter killed Meapak.
There was no flavor concerning if the adepts/town killed anyone. Either we don't have vigs, they got roleblocked, or they didn't shoot for whatever reason. Doesn't matter now, because scum already knows if they roleblocked the right people or not.
So why did those kills make sense to scum?
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On May 24 2014 05:44 marvellosity wrote:Show nested quote +On May 24 2014 05:43 austinmcc wrote:On May 24 2014 05:41 marvellosity wrote:+ Show Spoiler +On May 24 2014 03:25 Hapahauli wrote:Show nested quote +On May 23 2014 05:00 ShiaoPi wrote:VOTE COUNT: mtamburini (8): Tehpoofter, Hapahauli, Alakaslam, mattisfoolish, Xatalos, Cavalinho, Holyflare, thrawn2112, BlueyD, marvellosity, jampidampi, 27ninjabunnies, bkqyrldp, austinmcc, layabout, Steveling, Meapak_Ziphh Valenius (2): Meapak_Ziphh, Hapahauli, Tehpoofter, OnceKing, marvellosity, Hapahauli, Xatalos, kitaman27, sqrtofneg1 geript (0): Holyflare, StevelingKoshi (0): ValeniusSteveling (0): Holyflare, Cavalinho, geriptAlakaslam (0): kushm4sta, kushm4staHapahauli (0): kushm4staYell0w (1): Tehpoofter, Tehpoofter, BlueyDXatalos (0): jampidampi, marvellosity, Koshi, thrawn2112, kushm4stajampidampi (0): sqrtofneg1, Xatalos, Xatalos27ninjabunnies (1): Cephiro sqrtofneg1 (0): kitaman27bkqyrldp (0): marvellosityOdinOfPergo (13): Blazinghand, Steveling, Xatalos, Yell0w, Alakaslam, Alakaslam, kushm4sta, Xatalos, Koshi, OnceKing, marvellosity, Hapahauli, thrawn2112, bkqyrldp, Cavalinho, Valenius, Holyflare Holyflare (1): WaveofShadow, Xatalos, Steveling, Steveling, sqrtofneg1WaveofShadow (0): kitaman27, bkqyrldpBlazinghand (1): Tehpoofter, OdinofPergo, geript, marvellosity, geript thrawn2112 (0): 27ninjabunniesmarvellosity (0): kushm4stalayabout (1): jampidampi, Koshi, OnceKing, marvellosity, ritoky ritoky (0): austinmcc, layaboutBlueyD (0): kitaman27Tehpoofter (1): mtamburini Not voting (2): MysterMeat1, OdinofPergo OdinOfPergo was lynched with 13 votes!
I'm going to use the above votecount to structure my thoughts. By looking at the votes, we can get a better idea about the motivations of certain players, and it can help identify certain mafia tells that might be present in a multi-faction game. I'm dividing posters into 3 categories: - People off of the main wagons
- People who voted Odin
- People who voted Tambo
People off of the main wagons:There's a good chance that certain mafia/faction members will want to "blend-in" and "hide", and one very instinctual way of doing that is to avoid the main course of discussion, take "non-controversial" stances, and avoid contributing by pursuing/voting someone who is not being talked about and has very little chance of getting lynched. In this category of players, we have: mtamburini rikoty geript Cephiro Tehpoofter kitaman sqrtofneg1 WaveofShadow I'm going to start with Mafia Reads, move to Null Reads, and then to Townies: Mtamburini+ Show Spoiler +Mtamburini's vote looks extremely bad by all accounts. On May 23 2014 03:45 mtamburini wrote:I Vote:: tehpoofterwhy? No one else has and I can be the first one to say in post game if he is scum to say I TOLD YOU SO MOFOS harharharhar Tehpoofter had virtually no chance of getting lynched yesterday, and this is the definition of a wasted vote by all accounts. His reasoning for placing his vote where it was is also pretty suspect: why? No one else has and I can be the first one to say in post game if he is scum to say I TOLD YOU SO MOFOS On May 23 2014 04:36 mtamburini wrote:I have a lot of reading to catch up on so if I had to found scum based on the first 45 pages of this game I probably couldnt do so. poofter was in my initial scum reads moving towards null.... On May 23 2014 04:59 mtamburini wrote:Show nested quote +On May 23 2014 04:38 Holyflare wrote:On May 23 2014 04:36 mtamburini wrote:On May 23 2014 04:26 Xatalos wrote: What was that vote, mtamburini...? I have a lot of reading to catch up on so if I had to found scum based on the first 45 pages of this game I probably couldnt do so. poofter was in my initial scum reads moving towards null. Im not going to vote on bunnies because I think she might be town and just needs some time to cool off and get her head in gear. As the days go on my game will improve. With regards to my interactions with people Ive played with before I know I have a better chance of getting a read off them then smoeone I do not know so I will look at them first before anyone else. hey i thought after your long post the ONLY read you had was that steveling was scummy/null to you and that was it? where did this first 45 page poofter read come from? tehpoofter uses sarcasm as either allignment but you can usually tell by the tone of his sarcasm what allignement he is. From his initial posts Im reading the sarcasm as more scummy then towny All of this is really strange. The first two quotes can be barely considered reads. The 3rd quote is extremely manufactured and makes very little sense - tambo had never mentioned tehpoofters "sarcasm" all game, and then it shows up in a very mystical and unexplained read (what is the difference between town/mafia sarcasm?). Quote #2 is additionally strange - he voted a read (tehpoofter) that he felt was moving from Scummy to Null. Not only is this really weak, but he did so over Bunnies, who he's been seemingly tunneling most of the game, and has explicitly called her a strong scum-read in earlier posts. His rationale for not voting Bunnies is weak and makes little sense: On May 23 2014 04:36 mtamburini wrote:... Im not going to vote on bunnies because I think she might be town and just needs some time to cool off and get her head in gear. ... To understand why this makes so little sense, read this post... http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/mafia/440546-golden-sun-the-lost-age-mafia-djinn-edition?page=45#896...then read page 3 of his filter: http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/mafia/440546-golden-sun-the-lost-age-mafia-djinn-edition?user=mtamburini&page=3He doesn't vote a scumread because he believes that scumread could be town, but then votes tehpoofter (his "scummy moving to null" read) because... man I don't even know. sqrtofneg1+ Show Spoiler +His deadline behavior is pretty strange. After he comes back a couple of hours before lynch deadline, he quickly establishes a town-read on Odin... On May 23 2014 03:03 sqrtofneg1 wrote: Okay, looking at Odin's filter myself, I think he's just a vanilla townie. Scum would try harder to get out of it. As a vanilla townie, he wouldn't care. On May 23 2014 03:26 sqrtofneg1 wrote: I recommend lynching Val. Odin may seem scum, but I think he's VT. It's a very poorly explained town-read. His point about "Odin not trying to get out of the lynch" doesn't make much sense either, since Odin had stated earlier he'd be gone until the deadline. Futhermore, Odin was under very little pressure at the time he said that. It seems more like he's trying to justify not voting for Odin as opposed to being sincere with his read. Sqrt then pops down a very "clean" vote on Valenius... ... then POOF! He's gone for the last two hours of shenanigans! Despite having a town read on Odin, he never seems to try and act on it to prevent it. He disappears... then instantly reappears at lynch deadline! This is a really suspicious 2 hours of absence. Another *really* odd thing about his filter is how many town reads he gives out over the course of the game. He gives them out like candy, is seemingly confident in a lot of them, and... yeah. I'm not sure if this is a mafia tell in this particular setup, but it's something that definetely caught my eye on a readthrough. Cephiro+ Show Spoiler +Given that Cephiro was AFK for the last half of the day, it's hard for me to get an accurate read on him. However the first half of his day 1 play seems like it would come from some sort of faction.
I won't talk much about the contents of his big case. What's more important is that he didn't talk about anything other than his case on bunnies at all. This lines up with the idea of a faction wanting to "hunt" for players, but not necessarily interested in contributing to town discussion.
Again, hard to make a complete read on him due to him being AFK for a while, but his play objectively fits pretty well with how I'd think a faction member hunting other faction members would approach this game: find a target, push him/her, and really not contribute to town discussion otherwise. Ritoky+ Show Spoiler +Hard to say. His play is pretty short and straightforward. He believed layabout was scum, voted him, and then had to step out: On May 22 2014 19:48 ritoky wrote: Well, I am going to sleep and I am not sure if I will make it back before the deadline.
For me it's between WOS and layabout.
WOS contributes and I basically don't like much of anything he says.
Layabout doesn't contribute, and when he does its mostly shit filling.
Gonna go with layabout. ##vote layabout Nothing in his filter that screams his alignment one way or the other. WaveofShadow+ Show Spoiler +Well he replaced out. This makes a lot of his lack of interest and activity in the latter half of the game pretty explainable. I wasn't altogether please with his play (especially his stuff on Holyflare), but it's better not to make judgements about an incomplete filter and let his replacement talk some. Geript I believe to be town. Geript is extremely active and emotional this game. His tunnels seem very genuine, and while he ended up on BlazingHand, he definitely was very involved in the chaos and discussion of the day. He's drawn a ton of attention to himself, and really isn't someone I'm concerned about. Tehpoofter I'm less sure about, but I think he's town. He's playing extraordinarily different from his scum-game in You Only Shoot Once, and was fairly active/involved early on. He was afk for the last ~24 hours of the day (not changing his vote or posting at all), which leads me to believe his vote being off of one of the main wagons is a null-tell. Based on his early day behavior, I give him a moderate town read, with the expectation that he continues that in future days. That's Hapa's voting analysis thingy Hapa I don't think Cephiro is mafia atm. His whole bunnies thing was sooo convoluted. And I've seen him all over the place like that as town before. I remember catching him in LXII and his posts were much clearer. So yeah. sqrt I think I agree on, the Odin townread does kinda reek of TMI. On May 24 2014 05:21 sqrtofneg1 wrote: Woah, those kills are interesting. Filter dive time. On May 24 2014 05:30 sqrtofneg1 wrote:I think koshi's partner/teammate in his faction is jampi. On May 22 2014 19:00 Koshi wrote:On May 22 2014 18:46 ritoky wrote: but if you post 10x in a thread and all of it is shit, that's a 100% shit rate, which makes you a shitter in my mind at least. guess it's more of a % useful material thing for me.
Since it seems like there is only 3 of us here, let's have a bit of a chat.
@Marv/geript
I am a little bit hung up on an odd interaction in the early game, that was part of the original reads I gave when I called MZ my top town. It was when he noticed Jampidampi supporting the people he would never lynch on day 1. I was actually a bit wrong on that when I went back and looked at it again. 27ninjabunnies was the one who said it, and she actually said "there is no way I would lynch meapak this game". Which meapak felt was very strange and then jampidampi hopped in to defend bunnies against that and a couple other accusations headed her way at the time.
What do you think of that interaction, because to me it seems very odd, or if you don't particularly think anything of it what do you think about those 3 people?
I am rereading that and to me it seems jampidampi started with questioning MZ about bunnies. MZ replies that bunnies made an "unguarded" comment and is likely town. jampidampi pressures MZ and is giving bunnies a scumread for being overly defensive. He is telling MZ that the way MZ clears Bunnies is wrong and that he should revisit that read. MZ doesn't do that and jampi gives MZ a light scumread for it. This is pretty towny from Jampi tbh. quotes: ↓ + Show Spoiler +On May 21 2014 07:40 jampidampi wrote:Show nested quote +On May 21 2014 07:11 Meapak_Ziphh wrote:On May 21 2014 07:08 jampidampi wrote: Meapak earlier you were interested in 27ninjabunnies, did you gather anything from my conversation with her? If you had to bet on her alignment, what would you guess? ehhhh I understand the part about gut reads, I've had them myself and I know how frustrating it is to try and explain them. I give her (is ninja a her?) a pass for now because her posts seem very unguarded and often early game is when scum are most uptight. Unguarded? To me it seems that she is very defensive here: Show nested quote +On May 21 2014 06:52 27ninjabunnies wrote:On May 21 2014 06:45 jampidampi wrote:On May 21 2014 06:39 27ninjabunnies wrote:On May 21 2014 06:27 jampidampi wrote:On May 21 2014 06:21 27ninjabunnies wrote:
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It's also obvious who are going to jump out in the front and try and lead town one way or another. We definitely have a mafia or two in the first couple of pages.
You sound confident, enough that I think you have your eye on someone already. Care to share as to who it may be? I may have my eye on a few people. From my experience, there are two type of mafia people: the lurkers, and the ones who like to come out first day and take control of town. I'm focusing on the latter because they are the ones to likely talk more, you can easily find their slips (if any), and they are also more likely to last longer than the lurker mafia. Why are you avoiding my question? I asked you to name your suspicions, but instead you give an indefinite answear and then babble on about something that could reasonably be figured out from your earlier post. If I'm avoiding your question, it's because I have a pretty good damn reason as to why. But because you are being persistant, the ones I have my eye on are Steveling, WaveofShadow and Tehpoofter. But this doesn't necessarily mean they are scum. I rather read more of their play and interactions before I straight out call someone mafia. The majority of these people I haven't played with, and this is my second forum game. If I don't have logic behind my reads, where does that put me? As a freaking town more likely to get mislynched. So hold your horses, let me get my reads, and then we'll talk. She has "a pretty damn good reason" to avoid my question, yet she anwears it. Earlier she said that "we definitely have a mafia or two" but now they are not necessarily scum. Brining out the newbie card, defending accusations that don't exist. I would definitely not call this post unguarded. Based on this I wouldn't clear bunnies so easily, but now you're interesting. What makes you think she was "unguarded" in this post? + Show Spoiler +For the annoyed thing, if she was slightly pissed at me, I would understand this kind of backlash. On May 21 2014 07:56 jampidampi wrote:Show nested quote +On May 21 2014 07:44 Meapak_Ziphh wrote:On May 21 2014 07:40 jampidampi wrote:On May 21 2014 07:11 Meapak_Ziphh wrote:On May 21 2014 07:08 jampidampi wrote: Meapak earlier you were interested in 27ninjabunnies, did you gather anything from my conversation with her? If you had to bet on her alignment, what would you guess? ehhhh I understand the part about gut reads, I've had them myself and I know how frustrating it is to try and explain them. I give her (is ninja a her?) a pass for now because her posts seem very unguarded and often early game is when scum are most uptight. Unguarded? To me it seems that she is very defensive here: On May 21 2014 06:52 27ninjabunnies wrote:On May 21 2014 06:45 jampidampi wrote:On May 21 2014 06:39 27ninjabunnies wrote:On May 21 2014 06:27 jampidampi wrote:On May 21 2014 06:21 27ninjabunnies wrote:
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It's also obvious who are going to jump out in the front and try and lead town one way or another. We definitely have a mafia or two in the first couple of pages.
You sound confident, enough that I think you have your eye on someone already. Care to share as to who it may be? I may have my eye on a few people. From my experience, there are two type of mafia people: the lurkers, and the ones who like to come out first day and take control of town. I'm focusing on the latter because they are the ones to likely talk more, you can easily find their slips (if any), and they are also more likely to last longer than the lurker mafia. Why are you avoiding my question? I asked you to name your suspicions, but instead you give an indefinite answear and then babble on about something that could reasonably be figured out from your earlier post. If I'm avoiding your question, it's because I have a pretty good damn reason as to why. But because you are being persistant, the ones I have my eye on are Steveling, WaveofShadow and Tehpoofter. But this doesn't necessarily mean they are scum. I rather read more of their play and interactions before I straight out call someone mafia. The majority of these people I haven't played with, and this is my second forum game. If I don't have logic behind my reads, where does that put me? As a freaking town more likely to get mislynched. So hold your horses, let me get my reads, and then we'll talk. She has "a pretty damn good reason" to avoid my question, yet she anwears it. Earlier she said that "we definitely have a mafia or two" but now they are not necessarily scum. Brining out the newbie card, defending accusations that don't exist. I would definitely not call this post unguarded. Based on this I wouldn't clear bunnies so easily, but now you're interesting. What makes you think she was "unguarded" in this post? + Show Spoiler +For the annoyed thing, if she was slightly pissed at me, I would understand this kind of backlash. I agree that she made a terrible post there, my "unguarded" comment did not specifically relate to any one post in particular and more to her style of posting over all. My personal concern with her is actually her sudden clearing of me after I lightly defended her. It's waaaay too early in the game to say you won't lynch someone, even if you qualify it with D1. It still kinda baffles me that you could ignore such a heavy contrast to your generalization about bunnies play. Makes me think that you didn't actually put that much thought into it, which makes me think you might be scum. It's soon 2 AM here, so see you all tomorrow ______ From reading Jampi filter is goes like this: Jampi: Hey Bunnies I think you are scum. Let's interact. (interacting with scumread) Jampi: Hey MZ, do you agree with my scumread on Bunnies. (Interacts with MZ, gives MZ scumread for not seeing what he sees) This shows that jampi had a strong read on Bunnies at that time. Town mindset. On May 24 2014 05:35 sqrtofneg1 wrote: I can't find anything of value imo in bkq's filter... Also in MK's too. I'm bad at using town filters. Is it me or is that like scumslip city
I don't understand. Elaborate?
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On May 24 2014 05:48 Xatalos wrote:Show nested quote +On May 24 2014 05:45 Cavalinho wrote: Mercury is water. Venus is earth. Mars is fire. Jupiter is wind.
Koshi's faction didn't kill anyone, so it was likely that the hit was blocked, either by medics, veterans, or other opposing roleblockers.
The Venus faction killed Koshi. Mars killed bk. Jupiter killed Meapak.
There was no flavor concerning if the adepts/town killed anyone. Either we don't have vigs, they got roleblocked, or they didn't shoot for whatever reason. Doesn't matter now, because scum already knows if they roleblocked the right people or not.
So why did those kills make sense to scum? Hmm... Could it be that the Mercury faction is neutral and doesn't have KP? (since Koshi's name was black instead of red) Or maybe their KP went to Steveling.
Possible, but I find that somewhat unlikely. (Unless the hosts are all fire adepts. >.> )
Unless we see something that indicates otherwise, we should just assume that all scum factions are equal and that all have KP. It's highly unlikely that the factions would be centered around the types of Djinn, only to have one gimped for no particular reason.
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On May 24 2014 06:56 Valenius wrote:Show nested quote +On May 24 2014 06:53 Steveling wrote:On May 24 2014 06:49 austinmcc wrote:On May 24 2014 06:45 Steveling wrote:On May 24 2014 06:42 austinmcc wrote: Steveling. PLEASE. BH is not getting lynched today, not by the hairs on my chinny chin chin. He's unlikely mafia with what he's saying. PLEASE PLEASE PLEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEASE. No blue. No BH. No Isaac. No nothing.
Some people in this game are MAFIA. If you are town they want to SHOOT YOU IN THE FACE.
EVEN IN THE SCENARIO WHERE BH IS MAFIA, ALL THAT YOUR POSTING IS DOING IS LETTING MAFIA THROW A BUNCH OF CRAP INTO THE THREAD. IT'S NOT GOOD FOR THE THREAD AND IT'S ACTIVELY NOT GOOD FOR CATCHING BH IF HE'S MAFIA. IT'S JUST GOOD FOR MAKING A MESS.
Please please pleeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeease. I can super relate to being overly paranoid and finding connections in odd places. In my first large game, I thought one guy might be scum because he mentioned it was difficult to type. I found out that one of the villians in the show that was the theme had a bandaid on his head. I would not shut up for a day or so about how he was mafia, but did not know his teammates and they had to find each other, thus, he was signalling his teammates he was mafia by referring to the bandaid. It was not true. It was also incredibly ridiculous.
Really though that all caps paragraph. It's true. If he's mafia, this isn't helping to lynch him or catch him or anything. It's bad for us. If he's not mafia, still bad for us. All of this assumes right now that you are town. If you are mafia, carry on. I'm only asking why he revealed his role since he knew that he can be recruited. Is this a bad question? I will say that if he's truthful and says yes, then that's BAD FOR US BECAUSE SCUM COULD RECRUIT SOME DUDE THAT IS APPARENTLY IMPORTANT. If he's truthful and says no, then scum know not to try. If he lies, we're SOL anyway because we don't know what the truth is. We also have no way of telling whether he's truthful or lying. So at BEST it gives us nothing, and at WORST the more BH talks about this, the better an idea scum get of how to deal with BH and maybe slam and maybe that elderly heterosexual peruvian guy now. I am ALSO going to leave this spoiler here, and you should click it. + Show Spoiler +On May 24 2014 06:31 Steveling wrote: Lmao. Then why the fuck did you reveal this you idiot. On May 24 2014 06:34 Steveling wrote:Show nested quote +On May 24 2014 06:32 Blazinghand wrote:On May 24 2014 06:31 Steveling wrote: Lmao. Then why the fuck did you reveal this you idiot. Look, let's say someone was really, really townie D1. then he has a lax few days after that, but we cut him slack cause he was townie D1, right? Well shit man I want people to know what I know. There's no need to keep town in the dark. Scum already know I'm an important blue. Might as well share. But they didn't know that you can be controlled. Only thing they may know and I'm not sure about that is that Isaac role can be controlled by a djinni. And you revealed that as a joke in d1. I want to lynch you. On May 24 2014 06:35 Steveling wrote:Show nested quote +On May 24 2014 06:33 thrawn2112 wrote: lets lynch BH for obviously getting recruited N1 Ditto. On May 24 2014 06:38 Steveling wrote:Show nested quote +On May 24 2014 06:36 Blazinghand wrote:On May 24 2014 06:34 Steveling wrote:On May 24 2014 06:32 Blazinghand wrote:On May 24 2014 06:31 Steveling wrote: Lmao. Then why the fuck did you reveal this you idiot. Look, let's say someone was really, really townie D1. then he has a lax few days after that, but we cut him slack cause he was townie D1, right? Well shit man I want people to know what I know. There's no need to keep town in the dark. Scum already know I'm an important blue. Might as well share. But they didn't know that you can be controlled. Only thing they may know and I'm not sure about that is that Isaac role can be controlled by a djinni. And you revealed that as a joke in d1. I want to lynch you. My Isaac roleclaim is not a joke. The only joke in here is your posting. Is this it? You are supposed to be trying now? Explain why the fuck would you reveal that you are Isaac d1 seemingly for no reason at all if you knew that your role can be controlled. Go ahead. On May 24 2014 06:40 Steveling wrote:Show nested quote +On May 24 2014 06:39 Blazinghand wrote:On May 24 2014 06:38 Steveling wrote:On May 24 2014 06:36 Blazinghand wrote:On May 24 2014 06:34 Steveling wrote:On May 24 2014 06:32 Blazinghand wrote:On May 24 2014 06:31 Steveling wrote: Lmao. Then why the fuck did you reveal this you idiot. Look, let's say someone was really, really townie D1. then he has a lax few days after that, but we cut him slack cause he was townie D1, right? Well shit man I want people to know what I know. There's no need to keep town in the dark. Scum already know I'm an important blue. Might as well share. But they didn't know that you can be controlled. Only thing they may know and I'm not sure about that is that Isaac role can be controlled by a djinni. And you revealed that as a joke in d1. I want to lynch you. My Isaac roleclaim is not a joke. The only joke in here is your posting. Is this it? You are supposed to be trying now? Explain why the fuck would you reveal that you are Isaac d1 seemingly for no reason at all if you knew that your role can be controlled. Go ahead. Unless you get enough people to vote me that I think I am getting lynched, I will respond to no further questions from anyone about anything related to my role. I'm questioning your fookin reasoning not you fookin role claim. Explain why you revealed your Isaac role as a joke to marv. On May 24 2014 06:42 Steveling wrote:Show nested quote +On May 24 2014 06:41 Blazinghand wrote:On May 24 2014 06:40 Steveling wrote:On May 24 2014 06:39 Blazinghand wrote:On May 24 2014 06:38 Steveling wrote:On May 24 2014 06:36 Blazinghand wrote:On May 24 2014 06:34 Steveling wrote:On May 24 2014 06:32 Blazinghand wrote:On May 24 2014 06:31 Steveling wrote: Lmao. Then why the fuck did you reveal this you idiot. Look, let's say someone was really, really townie D1. then he has a lax few days after that, but we cut him slack cause he was townie D1, right? Well shit man I want people to know what I know. There's no need to keep town in the dark. Scum already know I'm an important blue. Might as well share. But they didn't know that you can be controlled. Only thing they may know and I'm not sure about that is that Isaac role can be controlled by a djinni. And you revealed that as a joke in d1. I want to lynch you. My Isaac roleclaim is not a joke. The only joke in here is your posting. Is this it? You are supposed to be trying now? Explain why the fuck would you reveal that you are Isaac d1 seemingly for no reason at all if you knew that your role can be controlled. Go ahead. Unless you get enough people to vote me that I think I am getting lynched, I will respond to no further questions from anyone about anything related to my role. I'm questioning your fookin reasoning not you fookin role claim. Explain why you revealed your Isaac role as a joke to marv. As I said, the only joke in this thread is you're posting. *your On May 24 2014 06:44 Steveling wrote:Show nested quote +On May 24 2014 06:43 marvellosity wrote: anyway BH and I are confirmed town to each other, so can we just stop this please? Or scum. and see whether it matches up with the question I'm responding to. Then I'm really going to get away from thread for a few hours. Since he specifically was told that he can be recruited that also means that the role that can recruit him received "you can recruit the Isaac role and do X things with him". This is why he shouldn't reveal his role under any pressure let alone as a joke d1. "You can be controlled by a djinn" .. doesn't mentioned recruitment.
This is something I was thinking. Maybe there's something like a witch in the game that can redirect people's night actions?
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We need to stop speculating on setup because we are just doing dumb things by yelling at ourselves.
Where is Foolishness? He promised us a case on kush if he lived and, lo' and behold, he lived. Let's get it out there so we can lynch him, because I don't really want kush to be alive much longer.
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On May 24 2014 07:48 marvellosity wrote: we need to stop with the "scumtell in this setup" crap. it's so silly.
i'll be annoyed if ritoky is mafia, then i'll have to admit austin got it right :<
Do you legitimately think he's mafia or not?
It sounds like you're leaning towards the fact that he is but I have no idea if you're "joking" or not.
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Yeah I'm voting kush, let's go.
Sheep Foolishness you fools.
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Ugh.
We can only kill one person at a time guys. If there's a vigilante out there, shoot BlueyD after the lynch.
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On May 24 2014 09:15 marvellosity wrote:Show nested quote +On May 24 2014 09:14 Cavalinho wrote: Ugh.
We can only kill one person at a time guys. If there's a vigilante out there, shoot BlueyD after the lynch. we're 4 hours into the dayphase? hello?
I don't understand what the issue is here.
Do you want neither of these players dead at this point?
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On May 24 2014 09:19 marvellosity wrote:Show nested quote +On May 24 2014 09:18 Cavalinho wrote:On May 24 2014 09:15 marvellosity wrote:On May 24 2014 09:14 Cavalinho wrote: Ugh.
We can only kill one person at a time guys. If there's a vigilante out there, shoot BlueyD after the lynch. we're 4 hours into the dayphase? hello? I don't understand what the issue is here. Do you want neither of these players dead at this point? why are you advocating shooting someone after the lynch when they could actually be the lynch? nothing is decided yet and it's so early, it's such an odd thing to suggest
I don't really see how it's odd at all.
I think the bottom line is that I want both of these players dead, so I don't see what your issue is with me wanting to kill two at once.
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On May 24 2014 09:21 OnceKing wrote: whoops i forgot to add blueyd to the list of people i wouldn't mind see dying today cav who are your scum reads?
Kush and Bluey. Maybe Marv.
Maybe Marv.
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On May 24 2014 09:23 OnceKing wrote: what're your opinions on tambo and ritoky? and why ma-- elderly heterosexual peruvian man?
I don't care about either of those players, tbh. Everybody else seems to be content grilling them so nothing I say will change anything, because nobody's really listening to me anyway.
Marv just feels off. I don't really like his explanation for his goading on the Odin wagon. I feel like he's been kinda sitting out of the spotlight and just poking holes in things rather than solving the game.
It's hard for me to make a case on Marv off the top of my head, so give me some time before I can fully elaborate.
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On May 25 2014 07:49 austinmcc wrote: And HF, if you ever return, do some list making, and tell me whether any of these dudes should be removed from a list:
Erandorr Meat Jampi Foolishness Peruvian Xat
With then possible folks like thrawn, cav, ceph, poofter, layabout, whoeverelseimissedanddidn'tgoreadrecently
What list am I on? The supertown list?
Yeah that sounds about right.
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I don't really see what else there is to talk about right now.
I have kush as scum and I don't think your reasons for letting him go are spectacular. I still want to lynch him, and kita's case on Bluey is pretty good too.
Also, fun fact, I like marv's last couple of posts and I now have him as town. So that's something, I guess.
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