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sqrtofneg1
Profile Blog Joined November 2013
Canada1159 Posts
May 21 2014 18:43 GMT
#1404
Personally, I think geript is town. Like BH said, mafia wouldn't make that mistake.
Imaginary
sqrtofneg1
Profile Blog Joined November 2013
Canada1159 Posts
May 21 2014 18:45 GMT
#1410
On May 22 2014 03:41 Hapahauli wrote:
Steeveling and Geript - can both of you stop repeatedly flamebaiting each other? It's completely useless thread content, and you're probably both town arguing with each other like idiots.

@kita, every single time someone said something like this in all of my games, that person has been town.
I think hapa is town b/c of this.
Imaginary
sqrtofneg1
Profile Blog Joined November 2013
Canada1159 Posts
May 21 2014 18:47 GMT
#1414
On May 22 2014 03:46 geript wrote:
Sqrt when I find people giving townreads for bad reasons like that, they're usually mafia.

Usually, but not this time.
Imaginary
sqrtofneg1
Profile Blog Joined November 2013
Canada1159 Posts
May 21 2014 19:00 GMT
#1416
On May 22 2014 03:59 kushm4sta wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 22 2014 03:45 sqrtofneg1 wrote:
On May 22 2014 03:41 Hapahauli wrote:
Steeveling and Geript - can both of you stop repeatedly flamebaiting each other? It's completely useless thread content, and you're probably both town arguing with each other like idiots.

@kita, every single time someone said something like this in all of my games, that person has been town.
I think hapa is town b/c of this.


Show nested quote +
On May 22 2014 03:47 sqrtofneg1 wrote:
On May 22 2014 03:46 geript wrote:
Sqrt when I find people giving townreads for bad reasons like that, they're usually mafia.

Usually, but not this time.



contradicting yoruself?

I'm not mafia.
I think hapa is town.
Imaginary
sqrtofneg1
Profile Blog Joined November 2013
Canada1159 Posts
May 21 2014 19:04 GMT
#1422
On May 22 2014 04:01 kushm4sta wrote:
no but you said townreads like that always coem from town in your experience.

then you agree with getript about them usually being town.

Geript said that people like me who give those kinds of townreads are usually mafia.
That's what I contradicted.

Imaginary
sqrtofneg1
Profile Blog Joined November 2013
Canada1159 Posts
May 21 2014 19:05 GMT
#1423
On May 22 2014 04:02 Holyflare wrote:
we don't lynch bh and we don't lynch geript

This.
Imaginary
sqrtofneg1
Profile Blog Joined November 2013
Canada1159 Posts
May 21 2014 19:07 GMT
#1426
On May 22 2014 04:06 geript wrote:
Sqrt... Why is it that how you're posting you're reads is ever so drastically different from your newbie games?

Cause huge game.
Imaginary
sqrtofneg1
Profile Blog Joined November 2013
Canada1159 Posts
May 21 2014 19:09 GMT
#1428
On May 22 2014 04:07 Koshi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 22 2014 04:04 sqrtofneg1 wrote:
On May 22 2014 04:01 kushm4sta wrote:
no but you said townreads like that always coem from town in your experience.

then you agree with getript about them usually being town.

Geript said that people like me who give those kinds of townreads are usually mafia.
That's what I contradicted.


What Kush is saying:

First you said: Everyone who said this is town
Geript replies: No, usually they are scum
Then you reply: Yes, usually but not this time.

Which is a contradiction.

Correction:
First I said: Everyone who said this is town (referring to hapa)
Geript replies: No, usually people who say that everyone who said this is town are scum. (referring to me, aka I'm scum)
Then I reply: Yes, usually but not this time. (aka I'm not scum)
Imaginary
sqrtofneg1
Profile Blog Joined November 2013
Canada1159 Posts
May 21 2014 19:11 GMT
#1430
On May 22 2014 04:10 geript wrote:
No. I think you miss my point. Early on you posted reads without any sort of reasons, twice in fact. In all you're newbie games you've given some brief and some long explanations. What changed?

Cause toooo many ppl to explain reads.
If anyone asks, I shall explain.
Imaginary
sqrtofneg1
Profile Blog Joined November 2013
Canada1159 Posts
May 21 2014 19:22 GMT
#1442
Jampidampi - Mafia. Gut read, plus his intro to the thread was strange. Really strange.
Bunnies - Town. Similar play with previous game. Meta read.
Yellow - Town. explained
Koshi - Town. Contributing. One thing I don't like:
On May 21 2014 23:16 Koshi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 21 2014 18:58 bkqyrldp wrote:
On May 21 2014 18:49 marvellosity wrote:
On May 21 2014 18:44 bkqyrldp wrote:
On May 21 2014 18:33 marvellosity wrote:
On May 21 2014 18:32 bkqyrldp wrote:
So what did you skim and find suspicious?

The fact you are a smurf and the fact you characterised my answer to Steveling as suspicious, when anyone on this forum knows 100% that my answer to Steveling was in no way suspicious and I would certainly answer that way as both alignments.

It was just an answer to a question.

The reason I am now voting for you is that because this page confirms you are a smurf, and if you are a smurf, you should know better. Which means you were just bullshitting vomit reads, so you're mafia.

I'm not sure what I was exactly thinking when I made that post, you will know later when I ask myself, but my guess is that it was more about you entering the thread with that type of post. Personally I'm not impressed by the rest of your posts so far, as I'm not seeing any of the pointed questions you tend to typically ask.

Literally irrelevant. A townie who has even played a single game with me would never even bring up what I said as suspicious. Not even casually.

Bad, bad, bad.

The fact you know/think I ask "pointed questions" makes your original point on my post look even worse.

Keep going?

If you are town, you should take a deep breath and reassess the strength of your perceived meta point.

The smurf is likely American.

Show nested quote +
On May 21 2014 06:47 bkqyrldp wrote:
Nice. The game has just started and there is already many people I dislike. I guess that's to be expected in a game with 4 factions.
Steveling is the first one for asking a neutral filler question, followed then by xatalos and marvelocity grabbing that opportunity to provide an easy fake contribution. From those 2 I dislike marvelocity the most, since xatalos was already there bantering, so I'll read less into his response for now.
The other person is meapak_ziph.
On May 21 2014 06:13 Meapak_Ziphh wrote:
wait there are four factions in this game?

Guess I might as well read the op then.

Wave that was a mighty suspicious post, sounds like you're trying to make excuses for future bad play...


He came into the thread with a weak confusion comment and something that didn't need to be said. Your post is basically the last line, which is pretty weak if your intent is to gather info from wave.

What's up Marv, steve, MZ?

People who used marvelocity in the past:
debears
sandroba
strongandbig
+ Show Spoiler +
On January 05 2013 02:39 debears wrote:
##Unvote
##Vote Marvelocity

On November 13 2012 09:45 debears wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 13 2012 09:44 iamperfection wrote:
On November 13 2012 09:43 debears wrote:
On November 13 2012 09:42 DarthPunk wrote:
On November 13 2012 09:39 debears wrote:
On November 13 2012 09:38 marvellosity wrote:
debears, I know very well that your main goal, above winning as either alignment, is to outpost me.

It's ok, I can pass the mantle on.


So your saying you don' want to take the lead? that doesn't sound like town marv.....


Marv will get the lead if he is town even if he doesn't want it. It's got something to do with people wanting to win games.


But he just said he doesn't want it and that he's fine with me taking the mantle, despite his vast amount of experience

in rockband he said he was going to post less before the game started.

He failed


True :/
But he got pissed, leading to it. He doesn't seem to angry here.

Vote is staying on mr. Marvelocity

On July 01 2012 12:47 strongandbig wrote:
PRE-POST ANNOUNCEMENT I HAVE DRANK SEVERAL TEQUILA

1. Lol zealos your deck is terrible. I thought it might be a storm deck but it's not brain freeze it's tendrils lol, zero cost artifacts trololololololol

2. I guess that's how the decks were balanced they're all terrible for this format I mean zombies? Not well thought out imo.

3. IM TOWN YOU MORONS WTF ALSO WHERE THE FUCKITYFUCK IS MARVELOCITY

4. PROMETHELAX IS PROBABLY TOWN BROS I think he just got a little intimidated when I yelled at him and I don't think there' s much else to say he's scum

5. GREYMIST WHAT THE FUCK i think you might be town now but why did you give up like that if gonzaw is being annoying just yell at him a lot like i did it feels great.

6. ZEALOS! SCUM!! why dont you guys realize a guy who doesnt give a shit about anything about keeping himself alive is probably scum? Like seriously what else could he do that makes you scum I love that gonzaw is giving him a pass because of his stupid "gut read" plus tunelling me.

7. tooooooaaaadddddd your deck is weird and scary what does it do does it have a myr incubator or something else scary? skullclamp is sooooo scary because of how good it is in combo decks.

8. greymist im sorry you had to play with cautery sliver its soooooooooo baaaaaddd.

9. I have a card i reallllly want to play but i'm afraid people will yell at me but it will let me keep town alive if gonzaw/nova/greymist turns out to be scum so i think i should play it what should i do

10. im going to switzerland tomorrow so i can move my experiment to CERN where we can catch antiprotons but that means im going to be gone for about 24 hours but you fools are all going to yell at me again wtffff i'll have to post my plane ticket again like i did that one time in holy roman mafia but fuck you you are lame anyway my brother can post.

11. gonzaw i think you are like 50% scum because of what i said above but zealos is super scum imo.

On May 18 2012 06:59 sandroba wrote:
@Toad What exactly is your reasoning for me being mafia? You keep saying I look weird and I'm scummy but you don't provide any reasoning. And because I didn't agree on the cpr thing being denied is not a good reason, but I'm not going to get into that, because I don't wanna flood the thread with obsolete discussion.

So the facts we got so far are the following:
Risk claims he didn't try for janitor. I know you said you wouldn't, but can you explain why, since you posted that you thought that role was worth denying?
Marvelocity claims he didn't go for janitor nor cpr. Again, why is that?
Sentinel claims he tryed janitor and didn't get it, thus vanilla. A role or bulletbill check could work in his case, narrowing it down to marv or risk, or finding out he is mafia.

On May 18 2012 20:36 sandroba wrote:
Earlier I was puzzled and nothing made any resemblance of sense, thus I thought it was better to have those checked. But now I thought about that explanation it finally makes sense, thus I'm fine with lynching marvelocity. I'd like people to comment on it.


sandroba is Brazilian and I don't think they would use words like "reassess".
debears is kinda oldskool I think and wouldn't be so familiar with the players here.


Strongandbig left.

Hmm. It is possible.

Digging deep on smurf, rather than mafia. Keeping an eye on him.
BH - Town, but I don't like his RNG thingy. Posts like this make him seem like he's figuring the game out:
On May 21 2014 07:48 Blazinghand wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 21 2014 07:45 jampidampi wrote:
On May 21 2014 07:33 Blazinghand wrote:
On May 21 2014 06:40 jampidampi wrote:
On May 21 2014 06:32 Blazinghand wrote:
Look, I know you guys all hate RNG lynch but with 4 factions there's gonna be way more scum than usual, right? This means RNG has a much higher chance than usual of hitting scum. This is possibly the best time EVER for using RNg. Everyone lynch OdinofPergo, because statistically speaking he is scum.

Why does more factions = more scum? Wouldn't scum numbers stay the same to keep the ratio of scum/all players balanced?


As a member of the balance team, I can assure you that a multifactional game supports more scum than a non-multifactional game. There are a number of reasons for this. Part of it is that, say, in a 2-scum-faction game, half of the scum will push on each other for reasons unrelated to bussing, because they can't distinguish between "scum on the other scum team" and "town". They'll even shoot into each other sometimes. Town loses the ability to make some associative tells, but the amount of crosstalk from scum accidentally pushing or shooting each other makes up for it.

2+2 scum with each group having 1 kp will never be as effective as 4 scum with 2 kp working together at killing town.

That being said, you never mentioned any real objection to the concept of RNG, you just questioned my estimate of scum in this game. I can only assume you didn't object to actual RNG because you think it would be fine if more factions = more scum. So, now that I've shown that more factions = more scum, you'll vote odin, yes?

I would need some kind of hard evindence that there are multiple scum factions in this game to RNG lynch, since those additional factions could be third parties and that wouldn't necessarily increase the scum numbers.


The definition of factions pretty much means they have to be scum aligned. Otherwise we'd just call them "blues". Even if they were like 3p factions or whatever, we'd still want them dead, right?

Also nice goalpost moving.

1. "do more factions = more scum? wouldn't scum numbers stay the same to keep the ratio... balanced?" as a question implies that you, like me, expected all or most of the factions to be scum factions.

2. but then "additional factions could be third parties..." later on is what you say after I show solve #1.

So, what's the deal? Why the resistance on the odinofpergo lynch???

I still don't like his rng thingy, but he's claimed Issac, no lynch today for him.
Holyflare - Mafia. I've reconsidered a bit, he's on the line for me.
Imaginary
sqrtofneg1
Profile Blog Joined November 2013
Canada1159 Posts
May 21 2014 19:24 GMT
#1444
On May 22 2014 04:23 Holyflare wrote:
oh geript was talking about hapa? w/eeee

I thought geript was talking about me.
Imaginary
sqrtofneg1
Profile Blog Joined November 2013
Canada1159 Posts
May 21 2014 19:29 GMT
#1448
On May 22 2014 04:25 Holyflare wrote:
so did i don't worry

Holyflare - Mafia. I've reconsidered a bit, he's on the line for me.

explain it sqrt because i've never seen you explain it in the entire game and the only reason it seems like you're voting me is because i took 3 minutes to say "ya"?

A bit of a meta read. I hosted Yuma, and the tone of your posts are different. Here, it's a bit more.... carefree... or something. I sensed that something was a bit off. Gut read, I guess.
Plus taking 3 minutes to say ya was interesting too.
Imaginary
sqrtofneg1
Profile Blog Joined November 2013
Canada1159 Posts
May 21 2014 19:38 GMT
#1452
On May 22 2014 04:35 Holyflare wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 22 2014 04:29 sqrtofneg1 wrote:
On May 22 2014 04:25 Holyflare wrote:
so did i don't worry

Holyflare - Mafia. I've reconsidered a bit, he's on the line for me.

explain it sqrt because i've never seen you explain it in the entire game and the only reason it seems like you're voting me is because i took 3 minutes to say "ya"?

A bit of a meta read. I hosted Yuma, and the tone of your posts are different. Here, it's a bit more.... carefree... or something. I sensed that something was a bit off. Gut read, I guess.
Plus taking 3 minutes to say ya was interesting too.


instead of the meta, which is completely wrong (why would i be carefree as mafia?) is there anything that i've said that you've disagreed with? don't like? doesn't make sense?

I disagreed with your read on steveling.
Plus this:
On May 21 2014 12:13 Holyflare wrote:
should be obvious/will be obvious

You haven't really proven yourself town when you said that.
Imaginary
sqrtofneg1
Profile Blog Joined November 2013
Canada1159 Posts
May 21 2014 19:41 GMT
#1457
On May 22 2014 04:39 Koshi wrote:
@sqrtofneg1
Finding smurfs is serious business.

Personally I don't think so.
Last game I played, Eden focused on finding serial killer rather than mafia.
Turned out to be mafia.
Smurfs are part of the game, but right now, as a town, you would be more focused on finding scum.
Imaginary
sqrtofneg1
Profile Blog Joined November 2013
Canada1159 Posts
May 21 2014 19:42 GMT
#1460
On May 22 2014 04:39 Holyflare wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 22 2014 04:38 sqrtofneg1 wrote:
On May 22 2014 04:35 Holyflare wrote:
On May 22 2014 04:29 sqrtofneg1 wrote:
On May 22 2014 04:25 Holyflare wrote:
so did i don't worry

Holyflare - Mafia. I've reconsidered a bit, he's on the line for me.

explain it sqrt because i've never seen you explain it in the entire game and the only reason it seems like you're voting me is because i took 3 minutes to say "ya"?

A bit of a meta read. I hosted Yuma, and the tone of your posts are different. Here, it's a bit more.... carefree... or something. I sensed that something was a bit off. Gut read, I guess.
Plus taking 3 minutes to say ya was interesting too.


instead of the meta, which is completely wrong (why would i be carefree as mafia?) is there anything that i've said that you've disagreed with? don't like? doesn't make sense?

I disagreed with your read on steveling.
Plus this:
On May 21 2014 12:13 Holyflare wrote:
should be obvious/will be obvious

You haven't really proven yourself town when you said that.


so you don't think steveling is town? because that's what i've been saying

Near the beginning of the game, no, you were saying that steveling was mafia.
Imaginary
sqrtofneg1
Profile Blog Joined November 2013
Canada1159 Posts
May 21 2014 19:44 GMT
#1463
On May 22 2014 04:44 Steveling wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 22 2014 04:42 sqrtofneg1 wrote:
On May 22 2014 04:39 Holyflare wrote:
On May 22 2014 04:38 sqrtofneg1 wrote:
On May 22 2014 04:35 Holyflare wrote:
On May 22 2014 04:29 sqrtofneg1 wrote:
On May 22 2014 04:25 Holyflare wrote:
so did i don't worry

Holyflare - Mafia. I've reconsidered a bit, he's on the line for me.

explain it sqrt because i've never seen you explain it in the entire game and the only reason it seems like you're voting me is because i took 3 minutes to say "ya"?

A bit of a meta read. I hosted Yuma, and the tone of your posts are different. Here, it's a bit more.... carefree... or something. I sensed that something was a bit off. Gut read, I guess.
Plus taking 3 minutes to say ya was interesting too.


instead of the meta, which is completely wrong (why would i be carefree as mafia?) is there anything that i've said that you've disagreed with? don't like? doesn't make sense?

I disagreed with your read on steveling.
Plus this:
On May 21 2014 12:13 Holyflare wrote:
should be obvious/will be obvious

You haven't really proven yourself town when you said that.


so you don't think steveling is town? because that's what i've been saying

Near the beginning of the game, no, you were saying that steveling was mafia.


He never said I'm mafia, he just wanted to vote me anyway.

Oh.
Imaginary
sqrtofneg1
Profile Blog Joined November 2013
Canada1159 Posts
May 21 2014 19:45 GMT
#1465
On May 22 2014 04:43 Steveling wrote:
So, if we don't pursue BH and geript, wtf are we doing?

Not being productive.
Imaginary
sqrtofneg1
Profile Blog Joined November 2013
Canada1159 Posts
May 21 2014 19:46 GMT
#1467
On May 22 2014 04:45 Holyflare wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 22 2014 04:42 sqrtofneg1 wrote:
On May 22 2014 04:39 Holyflare wrote:
On May 22 2014 04:38 sqrtofneg1 wrote:
On May 22 2014 04:35 Holyflare wrote:
On May 22 2014 04:29 sqrtofneg1 wrote:
On May 22 2014 04:25 Holyflare wrote:
so did i don't worry

Holyflare - Mafia. I've reconsidered a bit, he's on the line for me.

explain it sqrt because i've never seen you explain it in the entire game and the only reason it seems like you're voting me is because i took 3 minutes to say "ya"?

A bit of a meta read. I hosted Yuma, and the tone of your posts are different. Here, it's a bit more.... carefree... or something. I sensed that something was a bit off. Gut read, I guess.
Plus taking 3 minutes to say ya was interesting too.


instead of the meta, which is completely wrong (why would i be carefree as mafia?) is there anything that i've said that you've disagreed with? don't like? doesn't make sense?

I disagreed with your read on steveling.
Plus this:
On May 21 2014 12:13 Holyflare wrote:
should be obvious/will be obvious

You haven't really proven yourself town when you said that.


so you don't think steveling is town? because that's what i've been saying

Near the beginning of the game, no, you were saying that steveling was mafia.


that's a complete lie

You voted him.
That's why I thought you had steveling as mafia.
Imaginary
sqrtofneg1
Profile Blog Joined November 2013
Canada1159 Posts
May 21 2014 19:47 GMT
#1471
On May 22 2014 04:46 Koshi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 22 2014 04:41 sqrtofneg1 wrote:
On May 22 2014 04:39 Koshi wrote:
@sqrtofneg1
Finding smurfs is serious business.

Personally I don't think so.
Last game I played, Eden focused on finding serial killer rather than mafia.
Turned out to be mafia.
Smurfs are part of the game, but right now, as a town, you would be more focused on finding scum.

Layabout or anything that marvs votes.

Done.

Why layabout? Explain plz.
Imaginary
sqrtofneg1
Profile Blog Joined November 2013
Canada1159 Posts
May 21 2014 23:22 GMT
#1694
On May 22 2014 08:20 Valenius wrote:
Oh sqrt. I meant to chase you up on this: "All other factions are anti town. That's confirmed."

When was this confirmed? Apologies if you answered it later and i missed it.

Quote from OP:

Besides Town there will be 4 other factions present.
Town-Wincondition: Eliminate all Factions, which endanger town!

All factions endanger town, aka they're all anti town.
Imaginary
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