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bkqyrldp
Profile Joined January 2014
49 Posts
May 22 2014 17:48 GMT
#2397
EBWOP:
On May 23 2014 01:54 Hapahauli wrote:
Mystermeat's meh. Not only is it a coinflip, but we're going to get absolutely nothing out of that lynch information-wise, so let's not do that.

I'm back to Valenius right now.
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On May 23 2014 01:45 OnceKing wrote:
On May 23 2014 01:37 Hapahauli wrote:
On May 23 2014 01:31 OnceKing wrote:
also i could buy a ritoky lynch over a layabout lynch atm
or valenius


Cool. Why?

I'm sorta thinking about lynching you right now to be honest.

layabout actually pushing his scum read instead of just wasting time waffling about in his posts, ritoky doesn't
valenius doesn't either but he's even worse because he hasn't got any reads other than town and null, there are just so many polarizing people in the thread i don't see how you can come away with nothing


This is a pretty good observation by OnceKing, and Valenius has slipped my mind for a while. Val really hasn't done much this game at all - a majority of his filter are short posts that have nothing to do with reads or scumhunting. A lot of +1's and idle questions. He does have one scum-hunting post...

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On May 22 2014 04:15 Valenius wrote:
Onegu, that's terrible; Really hope it get's better quickly.



I'm not sure how many posts, and this applies for all of you 'vets', are serious and how many are little in jokes between yourselves.. so if I miss out something it's probably because i didnt want to make a read based on something that could be common in your games. Make sense? As always with me, i just read through filters. Backtracking thread is too hard.

So.. + Show Spoiler +


Yell0w.

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Despite how much everyone seems to hate the whole RNGesus plan, his initial post on it was solid. It's misguided in that it would require everyone to take part.. which won't happen; but the theory is sound. It's easy enough for someone to test everyone else's post to make sure there's no tomfoolery occurring. Any switches (early or late) would draw suspicion. Somebody pulled him up on his switch to BH's plan 'with no posts in between', but that was bullshit. He'd been shown how it wouldn't work, so his switch was logical.

His first big post mostly makes sense. I agree with his points on RNG not being totally alignment indicative, and for me it's probably more like 60% town indicative. With most of the players in here, I don't think experienced scum would have much trouble causing a mislynch on day1. RNG is imo more likely to hit them than a lynch through the normal course of play - Unless they made a monumental slip-up.

Summary: Probably Town, like his thought process.


Blazinghand

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Dude, drop the RNG. I was a believer, but it's not going to happen.

Again, the logic behind it was solid (imo - see above), as is the setup talk and effectiveness of the scummers.

The wording of this post was a little bit off to me: + Show Spoiler +
On May 21 2014 07:52 Blazinghand wrote:
Good point, also it doesn't matter, we need to kill them all. So are you on board, jampidampi? or are you busy thinking of another excuse not to lynch your scumbuddy odin?


In the post he was replying to, i'd put the win condition was "Eliminate all Factions, which endanger town". The 'we need to kill them all' seems to have just ignored that. Not sure if slip, but thought i'd mention it.. 'when in Rome' and all.

Overall: I don't like how you've continued pushing the RNG as it's getting to the stage where most are ignoring you, although If anything I think it makes you more town than scum at this point.


Alakaslam

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I don't get you.



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You know what stop putting Vaseline in your car and diesel does not improve your lips. Neither does motor oil work for lubrication of human anatom-

Actually, I am unsure of that

Anyway dat GASOLINE more specific than PETROL bro

Putting plastic in the car or what?

Loo

Heheh

Alyoominnium

If course to you we like a-LOO-minnum


sqrtofneg1
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Seems reasonably in line with newbie games i've played/obs'd with him, although slightly

Odd post time: "All other factions are anti town. That's confirmed." - Forgive me if I missed the page, but where was this confirmed?

Your vote on Holyflare was about as useful as my vote on Koshi.

+e$ports 20 for the recent geript comment.

Summary: Stay vigilant sqrt, newbie bro. These guys will promise you the world, and just end up taking your bottle-cap collection. (Probably town, but a bit too easily swayed)


Cavalinho

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You could pretty much pull out in a black Ford Model 18 "V-8" (1932-1934)* and wave your tommy gun around and I still probably wouldn't lynch you today. You're a survivor Cav, I believe in you.

* Thanks GQ slideshow

Oh, actual 'analysis' time?

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On May 21 2014 14:12 Cavalinho wrote:
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On May 21 2014 14:09 BlueyD wrote:
Cav why do you think he's scum?


Because he's scum.

And also because he's trying to hide and he's posting a lot of questions aimed at making people feel superior. Hence, he is a mafia trying to get people to ignore him and blend in.


I pretty much fully disagree. Steveling's done anything but try and blend in. The lover's tiff between him and Holyflare is one of the more dominant things that have happened so far. Maybe people will laugh, and maybe I'm overestimating the ability of some of you regulars/overusing my newbie reads, but it doesn't seem massively scummy.

You haven't defecated today.

Summary: Pale Mafia. A light shade of pink.



27ninjabunnies
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On May 21 2014 06:39 27ninjabunnies wrote:
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On May 21 2014 06:27 jampidampi wrote:
On May 21 2014 06:21 27ninjabunnies wrote:

--

It's also obvious who are going to jump out in the front and try and lead town one way or another. We definitely have a mafia or two in the first couple of pages.

You sound confident, enough that I think you have your eye on someone already. Care to share as to who it may be?


I may have my eye on a few people.

From my experience, there are two type of mafia people: the lurkers, and the ones who like to ome out first day and take control of town.

I'm focusing on the latter because they are the ones to likely talk more, you can easily find their slips (if any), and they are also more likely to last longer than the lurker mafia.



I find the last sentence a little bit contradictory. If you assume that you're in a game with people who will catch slips most of the time, then surely the talkative slippy mafia wouldn't last longer than the lurkers due to the talkative slippy nature of themselves? I don't know, maybe it's just my interpretation of the line, and maybe im understating the {if any) part.


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If I'm avoiding your question, it's because I have a pretty good damn reason as to why.
But because you are being persistant, the ones I have my eye on are Steveling, WaveofShadow and Tehpoofter.


The fuck? It's early in the game, and there's pretty much 0 pressure on you to give out your reads to him. Saying you're then looking at them will surely change their behaviour, rendering the whole thing invalid?

The whole post by matamburini is too big and had too many capitals, so I havent and probably wont read it.


Meapak_Ziphh
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You still have your vote on me, and i think you've spelled my name about 6 different ways. Apart from me, who do you think's scummy?


bkqyrldp

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I don't have a clue what to expect from a 2-player player, but his post on how players enters the thread is alright. His quotes on jampidampi back this up. When the game started last night i couldnt really care, and i plan to return to that after this post for today. Previous newbie games i tried hard to analyse everything, and ended up being wrong and getting stressed, so it's carefree all the way for this game.

Erm, summary: Town.


Kitaman27

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The heart post was funny, not much else in his filter. He hosted my first game, so I always thought he'd be super pro. Kita, warm my little heart and show me you're pro.


I'm bored now and hungry and i suck at analysis and nobody will probably read it ::longpost:: and all. back to short-shitposting for now. I'll talk about others tomorrow.


...that doesn't really say much about anything. He calls Cav a "slight shade of pink", and that's the closest he gets to a scumread. Everything else is a bunch of town reads, null reads, or posed questions. I also really dont' like the last bit of this post...

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I'm bored now and hungry and i suck at analysis and nobody will probably read it ::longpost:: and all. back to short-shitposting for now. I'll talk about others tomorrow.


... for a number of reasons. Lack of confidence, lack of willingness to do analysis, openly declares intentions to shitpost... meh.


Hapa, have you actually read that post you quoted. It seemed very natural to me with no forced reads and everything he said was very reasonable and from a stream of thought. I really think valenius is towny and moving the lynch off tambu after his suspicious comeback seems wrong. A lot of people seem to be waitng for his return to have an excuse to move their votes off and if anything it made him look worse. I'm way more confident in wos, but between those 2 tamburini is way more likely of actually being scum.

bkqyrldp
Profile Joined January 2014
49 Posts
May 22 2014 17:54 GMT
#2403
On May 23 2014 02:52 Koshi wrote:
What about you tell me who you are and I sheep you?

We are 2 people you would be glad to sheep. I thought we were pretty obvious already, but if not I prefer to keep it a secret to not ruin the fun. And also night is comming soon so there is also that =P
bkqyrldp
Profile Joined January 2014
49 Posts
May 22 2014 18:01 GMT
#2413
How is that Marv wasn't worried about the lack of resistance to the lynch due to "influential" townies supporting the lynch and then after the fairly lackluster return by Tamburini instead of analyzing the posts himself, he decides to sheep Hapa's very brief thoughts on them (all Hapa said was that Tamburini seemed pretty direct and open)?

Apparently he doesn't even consider Tamburini misspeaking/lying worth commenting either, even when I directly asked him about it. He went from being seemingly confident to not caring enough to even form his own opinion.

This could be Marv just being very unconfident in his reads, but it looks very suspicious to me.
bkqyrldp
Profile Joined January 2014
49 Posts
May 22 2014 18:17 GMT
#2440
BH I'll conceed that your odin case is actually quite good. I'm glad you posted something long that I actually cared to read instead of ignoring all your post like I was previously doing. I'll gladly lynch any of mtambu, odin or wos today.
bkqyrldp
Profile Joined January 2014
49 Posts
May 26 2014 20:27 GMT
#4780
I think players need to be warned if there are alignment changing mechanics in the game. Looking at the spreadsheet I'm not sure if it was even possible for town to win unless recruitments failed and/or the factions keep shooting each other.
bkqyrldp
Profile Joined January 2014
49 Posts
May 26 2014 20:29 GMT
#4797
On day 1 there was essentially no mafia...
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