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On May 22 2014 08:18 Hapahauli wrote:Show nested quote +On May 22 2014 08:12 Cavalinho wrote:On May 22 2014 08:07 Hapahauli wrote:On May 22 2014 08:04 Cavalinho wrote:On May 22 2014 08:03 Hapahauli wrote:On May 22 2014 08:00 Cavalinho wrote:
WoS, look into Steveling. HF is town and Hapa is also probably town.
I'm boggled by the fact that marv said having a huge filter is good for town. It's not when there's nothing there but useless garbage that clogs up the thread and doesn't accomplish anything.
Also, who said we should lynch layabout? When you're talking about a guy that gets lynched day 1/2 a lot, maybe, just maybe you should take the quality of their play into consideration. Maybe I'm biased because I got lynched day 1 a lot for stupid reasons, but I still really want to kill Steveling today over anything and everything else for the moment.
I'd be really wary of people who say that just having a big filter is good for town. Steveling would be a terrible lynch. I get that you don't like his play, and his play is very spammy, but it's also very clearly town. Just because his spam is "contentless" doesn't mean it isn't genuine. Look at some of his other games - he plays like that all the time. Before we start arguing, I want to know what "genuine" is. Genuine can be many things. What's "townie" about his filter is that he's constantly posting without thinking, getting into many fights, and is generally wearing his emotions on his sleeve. Contrast this with normal mafia instincts to hide, avoid conflict, etc. Also, look at his past games and compare them to this one. If you haven't done that, then your analysis is meaningless. I've played with him before. He is doing the exact same thing he was doing in Cell, making people feel smart and getting people to ignore him. It's spammier than normal, but that's not the issue that I have with him. Like some of the players right now are just calling it boring (Koshi) without trying to see if it's legitimately true or not. Why is this not an issue for you? Nothing in this post describes why Steveling is scum. You compare his play in Cell to his play here, but they look very different at first glance to me. He is definetely active in Cell, but seems a lot more calm. Compared to this game, he's picking fights and is generally an attention-whore.
Then check my filter for the big, red-titled post on why I thought he was scum.
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On May 22 2014 08:38 Steveling wrote:
Cav talk to me buddy, I want to give you a chance to prove your town.
Rofl. I don't owe you anything. Get the fuck out of here.
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What's funny is that I thought that gumshoe was town before it anyway.
But whatever, my words didn't really hold the same kind of weight as anyone else's.
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Christ sqrt your reads are so bad I swear.
I'm actually legit considering HF super confirmed town because you scumread him. You scumread people for the worst reasons, and it isn't even a tell because you played like this last time too.
The fuck.
Also, I'm gonna take my vote off of Steve because I'm pretty sure geript can just shoot him during the night sequence, and he probably isn't getting lynched anyway.
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On May 22 2014 10:29 geript wrote:
Yeah well I'll just sit back quietly voting for Scumeling. You guys can do what you want.
We won't forget about him.
Not for a long time.
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On May 22 2014 10:30 Holyflare wrote:Show nested quote +On May 22 2014 10:27 Cavalinho wrote:
Christ sqrt your reads are so bad I swear.
I'm actually legit considering HF super confirmed town because you scumread him. You scumread people for the worst reasons, and it isn't even a tell because you played like this last time too.
The fuck.
Also, I'm gonna take my vote off of Steve because I'm pretty sure geript can just shoot him during the night sequence, and he probably isn't getting lynched anyway. so who's scum other than steve now? 
I have no goddamn clue.
I'm probably just going to sheep Foolishness because his mtam case seemed pretty good.
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On May 22 2014 10:45 Steveling wrote:
So cav jumps on the crazy train with geript about me.
After I proved the whole meta ordeal wrong he casually lifts his vote off me.
Meanwhile he completely ignored my post as to why he's thinking I'm scum and suddenly, right when his name is targeted he miraculously appears to defend himself!!
Such miracle.
I'm confident that you're going to get shot tonight, so why bother trying to lynch you?
I've seen nothing to make me change my read on you. Have fun being dead.
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On May 22 2014 10:48 Steveling wrote:Show nested quote +On May 22 2014 10:47 Cavalinho wrote:On May 22 2014 10:45 Steveling wrote:
So cav jumps on the crazy train with geript about me.
After I proved the whole meta ordeal wrong he casually lifts his vote off me.
Meanwhile he completely ignored my post as to why he's thinking I'm scum and suddenly, right when his name is targeted he miraculously appears to defend himself!!
Such miracle. I'm confident that you're going to get shot tonight, so why bother trying to lynch you? I've seen nothing to make me change my read on you. Have fun being dead. Can you explain why I'm scum according to you? Also my shield will protect me.
Go reread my case. Nothing I think about you matters anymore.
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Holy shit you're annoying.
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On May 22 2014 11:57 Steveling wrote:Show nested quote +On May 22 2014 11:55 Holyflare wrote:On May 22 2014 11:40 Steveling wrote:On May 22 2014 11:37 Holyflare wrote:On May 22 2014 11:36 kitaman27 wrote:On May 22 2014 11:33 Steveling wrote:
What do you guys make of cav?
His last posts are just scum. I'm kinda wondering if he can legitimately be as angry as he seems this game. Is he usually like this? i for one understand his annoyance (hence the early game me vs steve) but i'd like him to start branching out a bit What annoyance? What kind of lies are you spreading here. He's not saying that I'm spammy or annoying or anything like that. His only reason was that I play like my other games, even like my scum games which I proceeded to disprove and after that he went crazy, I asked him to parley but he refuses, obviously because he has no other reasons because he's scum. well if i was annoyed at you for last game and i was mafia and i won because i could push a mislynch on you i can only imagine what cav would feel like if you started doing the same thing in this game (he was town in that game for anyone else wondering) it would put me in a fowl mood for every single post of yours that i read, like it did for me at the start. It's also frustrating to not be listened to when you're in a mindset like that So you chose to completely phase out the part where I distinguished my town from my scum plays. The part where even cav admitted of being right and backed off. You have a shitty excuse my friend.
I never admitted you were right. You're deliberately ignoring the points I was making in my earlier case and you're just saying "no im town ur wrong."
Every single thing you're trying to accuse me of doing is something you're doing, and I'm desperately trying to find something else to focus on besides you shitting up the thread with nonsense.
Now, if you don't mind, I'm going to try to read someone else now.
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On May 22 2014 12:12 Meapak_Ziphh wrote:Show nested quote +On May 22 2014 11:58 kitaman27 wrote:On May 22 2014 11:50 Meapak_Ziphh wrote:
Hey Kita, I understand you'd rather me not pursue this HF thing right now but his responses have piqued my interests. Since you're here, why don't you give me some suggestions of who else I could look at. Take your pick out of these four. Valenius Wave poofter BlueyD Well you already know my opinions on Wave and Val Here's my opinion on BlueyD: Show nested quote +On May 21 2014 10:53 BlueyD wrote:
Wasn't so convinced by the case on Valenius when I read it. His posts weren't pretend-contributions of the scummy type, they were just obviously irrelevant.
[...] Show nested quote +On May 21 2014 13:36 BlueyD wrote:
Ehhhh I'm back.
Don't like the case on bunnies, I feel like Ceph is stretching it.
[...] Show nested quote +On May 21 2014 13:56 BlueyD wrote:
I don’t like that the case on mtamburini seems to rely on a single post. It’s a really bad post due to format and scope, but the rest of the filter reads okay.
[...] Show nested quote +On May 22 2014 09:58 BlueyD wrote:
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Ritoky: I just don’t see a case for a lynch on him right now. There are better targets. The case by austin was bad, and his reads feel honest.
Austin: One bad case, but he retracted it really quickly once some stuff was cleared up, so not much there. Mehhhh. I pretty much don’t have a good read on this guy.
Vale: There’s really only one post to analyse here, and half of it is fluff. His townreads are yellow and bkq (and bh? I dunno, the wording made it sound really weak) which is just weird to me. His only scum read is “Light shades of pink” on cav. Come on... Going to just count this as a pretend-to-help-town post since there's nothing in it I really like. On the scummy side.
I gotta be honest I have a huge problem with people who do stuff like this. Sure BlueyD has also said he finds Yellow and Tamburini lynch worthy, however there is no time spent pushing these reads. I have no idea why BlueyD's meta is but I could be swayed to a lynch on him today.
Played with him last game. He's usually more proactive than what you're describing and he was one of the town mvps that killed kush early.
I'm not sure if I'd really call that a tell though. I'm leaning town on him for the moment, and I don't think he should be one of the lynches today. I'll definitely filter dive him and post if I find anything suspicious.
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Geript why are you making your posts intentionally annoying to read?
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I'm not sure I agree with you on the sqrt vote. He scumreads people for the weirdest shit ever, so I don't find it particularly indicative.
I'm basically just sheeping Foolishness on the mtam case, but I'm not sure about the other guy.
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On May 22 2014 13:15 thrawn2112 wrote:
who is tambo?
Mtamburini.
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Eh. Maybe. I don't really feel it.
I think his most indicative thing thus far was his vote on HF. It was so reminiscent of his vote on me in NMM that it made me think he was town for it.
Despite the fact that it was retarded both times.
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On May 22 2014 13:39 BlueyD wrote:
Also cav you would describe me as proactive? That's funny, I remember HF in Yuma criticizing me for not moving shit forward, and you seem to not mention that I waited for thrawn to initiate the kush lynch 10 mins before deadline even though I'd been on him for a while.
Honest mistake or mischaracterisation?
I believe it's a case of I couldn't be assed to do the research so take your townread and shut up.
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On May 22 2014 13:37 27ninjabunnies wrote:Show nested quote +On May 22 2014 13:23 Cavalinho wrote:
Eh. Maybe. I don't really feel it.
I think his most indicative thing thus far was his vote on HF. It was so reminiscent of his vote on me in NMM that it made me think he was town for it.
Despite the fact that it was retarded both times. What do you think about him specifically saying he doesn't want to post a lot, or that he just give reads, with nothing backing them unless someone asks him to expand on them?
Pretty much the same as before.
And I'd say you shouldn't look into it any further.
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On May 22 2014 13:43 Blazinghand wrote:Show nested quote +On May 22 2014 13:42 Cavalinho wrote:On May 22 2014 13:39 BlueyD wrote:
Also cav you would describe me as proactive? That's funny, I remember HF in Yuma criticizing me for not moving shit forward, and you seem to not mention that I waited for thrawn to initiate the kush lynch 10 mins before deadline even though I'd been on him for a while.
Honest mistake or mischaracterisation? I believe it's a case of I couldn't be assed to do the research so take your townread and shut up. Whoa g man take a chill pill
I'm aggressive out of love.
I'm going to love all of you aggressively.
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What exactly is an angry mole?
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On May 22 2014 14:12 geript wrote:
Can someone please explain to me in detail where any of Scumeling's reads are anything but things he picks up from thread sentiment and runs with?
Just commit to shooting him and leave it alone then.
Everyone is committed to ignoring him because all he does is shit up the thread with stuff that doesn't make sense.
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