Golden Sun: The Lost Age Mafia Djinn Edition - Page 2

On May 21 2014 12:04 Cephiro wrote:


I have no idea because I rolled town, but I would assume that the goals of the multiple factions do not overlap, at least not by much. It is also not certain that all of the 4 other factions are pro-scum, but it is likely there is more than one. I think it's very possible for there to be a pro-town faction, or some sort of win with town faction.

On May 21 2014 12:06 Cephiro wrote:


All my wat.

I think she is mafia. You disagree but think she is mafia?? All I can say is CHUPAZI.

On May 21 2014 12:04 sqrtofneg1 wrote:
@Ceph, I disagree on your case. I think bunnies is mafia.
However, I don't think you're mafia. Although it's a bit strange you went straight for her, I think you're town.
I would, however, like to see what your reads are, other than bunnies.

On May 21 2014 12:07 Tehpoofter wrote:


You disagree and think shes mafia? Why do you think that or was this a typo?

What do you think of yellow

On May 21 2014 12:12 Holyflare wrote:


ya

On May 22 2014 00:45 OdinOfPergo wrote:
So some thoughts so far..
I'll try to keep in order as much as possible... but as I just skimmed like 50 pages that might be hard.

This whole RNG stuff.
It's pointless, it was pointless from the start.

My few conclusions I'm going to take away from this are:
BH is probably scum. Not as a baseless OMGUS, I'll explain.
BH has literally no filter.
None at all.
I'm not saying I'm in-tune with how BH does his RNG thing people were saying was popular with him.
But BH's filter consist of:
Let's RNG Odin.
No serious guys, let's do it.
Guys? Why we no voting for Odin?
Ok screw RNG then I'll just call Odin scum.
You know the guy who's posted.. not a single time.
How did this a RNG roll evolve to a scum read?
I mean it's been almost half of day one now and I'm still the only read he has in the game atm.
Okok, I lied a bit there. He wanted someone to shoot Geript iirc too.
So my conclusion to his filter is:
-Useless RNG talk
-Filler post
-Weird call for a shot on Geript (Dude's an ass? who knew! Geript you horse you.)
-Impossible evolution of a scum read on Odin
##Vote: Blazinghand

The Steve/Holy/MZ whoever else arguement was pretty weird to me too.
I don't think Holy is scum atm.
I'm not particularly partial to Steve's spam. 1/10 post he's made amount to anything to me.
That worries me.
MZ also had a few post I didn't like around this time.
But he shares a lot of the reads I have now.
So not sure if I just didn't like them because of the context, or because they were bad.
I'll have to read his filter later to decide.

I'd be fine with Vale lynch.
All the reasons already said by other people.
I'm totes a sheep if he becomes the lynch.

The whole Ceph case on ninjabunnies reads really awful to me tbh.
I mean I get what he's saying. But I have no idea why he believes that to be the case.
You're basing your top scum read on
"she didn't respond the way I expected town to respond."
"she didn't think like I think a town should of thought"
I mean your case isn't wrong per say.
But it is very bad.
Consider the player list of this game.
If you don't understand why someone responded/acted towards something you were trying to lay a trap for...
Umm I guess you might probably just go ahead lynching 1/3 of the player list.
Conclusion of your case means I should of been mislynched in 95% of the town games I've ever played.
Because I never make any sense..

Moving along,
Bunnies case on Thrawn is stupid and bad.
But it's not her fault really imo.
If I had never played with Thrawn I'd probably be suspicious of him too.
I mean this is probably why I'm eerie of Steve right now.
His play so far isn't something I'd call super for town.
But I have no idea what Steve's play looks like period.

Anyway, /end wallpost. I'll be around for a short while before bed. Hopefully I'll be up again early enough to chat with people before work.

On May 22 2014 00:46 marvellosity wrote:

Why don't you just explain everything? Why wouldn't you?

On May 22 2014 00:49 Holyflare wrote:



explain to me how you've arrived at ^^^^^^^ after stating this:



like all your reads have changed with not much talking about that in between

On May 22 2014 00:44 sqrtofneg1 wrote:
Okay, here's my new reads/changed reads:

I'm not sure of the tambo push, I originally read tambo as town, but I'm not sure right now.
BKQ I don't like.
Marv I like.
Xat is my top town atm.
Steve I like.
Cav I don't like.

As always, ask me to explain if needed.

On May 21 2014 20:05 marvellosity wrote:

Marv I don't think would cockblock on a null read like this if he were town

Yes, I obviously would if he was pursuing it in a very irritating way

More likely he'd ignore me and let me develop it.

He wasn't developing the read, he was ranting at town to vote for confirmed scum. Not the same.

Not a 100% on that but his push on Xat early was for pretty awful reasoning.

The reasoning was fine, you made multiple posts on the non-topic of day 1 lynches being decided by connection voting and stuff. There's a reason I didn't vote for you the *first* time you made such a post, but after about the 3rd time you reiterated the same fluffy crap. Go check your own filter and when I voted for you. Go on.

Like if Marv were town and has that "it's enough for now" line, he'd be far more willing to entertain a good outside lynch.

Totally baseless

Plus, he has done nothing to make me think he's either town or scum, which means he cares about how he comes across which is far more likely to be mafia

If I cared about how I looked, I'd be looking a lot better than how I do now, I have many, many scumgames and I am never viewed as suspicious early on in any of them... because I pay attention to how I come across! The entire point he's trying to make is completely self-defeating...

So yes, basically the entire post is wrong or bad in some way.

On May 22 2014 00:55 Holyflare wrote:


the only people you've talked about are one liners etc saying "bunnies town" "yellow town" but then they've all disappeared from your list of towny people and you have a new list of completely different people that you haven't mentioned in your filter really at all

On May 22 2014 02:13 Onegu wrote:
Ive requested to be replaced out, first game off the banlist not a good start. But with the miltary haveing declared martial law and now protesters gathering close to my home and I am afraid fighting will start my anxiety is through the roof and Im unable to concentrate.


Anyway sorry.

On May 22 2014 02:46 Xatalos wrote:


I'm happy that you feel this way, but this isn't very specific. How exactly am I obvtown?

On May 21 2014 06:44 Xatalos wrote:


Of course there will be scum on almost any wagon. It's just that connection speculation (bussing, speed of wagons forming, etc.) are a bit less reliable than they usually are. It should be more useful to focus on individual scumminess for now.

On May 21 2014 19:59 Xatalos wrote:


I think geript is very likely town and this post is a good example. It's weird that marv would vote me for little to no reason (claiming it's "good enough" lol) and then defend Slam like this. marv: how is this post by geript terrible?

(To be clear: marv probably isn't a good D1 lynch, since as scum he's forced to maintain some level of activity and leave behind clues about his scummates - and if he's town he's obviously too valuable to lose to a lynch - but I'd say I'm not getting any townie feeling from marv yet and so I'm slightly leaning scum)

On May 21 2014 22:11 Xatalos wrote:
I kind of like Cephiro's point on ninjabunnies - about how ninjabunnies doesn't apparently consider the possibility of Cephiro being scum when Cephiro pushes him:

"If you don't consider me as mafia, you shouldn't be voting me.

The only reason outside of you considering me as mafia for why you would vote for me is this: you want to get a read on me via my reactions to your voting on me to see if I react poorly or more town favored. This is only used if you don't have a read on me from what I've previously posted."

It's a bit of a weird thing. Is it even a scumslip? Hard to say. Probably not. Still something that bothers me a bit.

On May 22 2014 02:48 kitaman27 wrote:
The Doctor, Harry Potter, and The Batman are not impressed.

On May 22 2014 02:54 marvellosity wrote:

These are main, "good" characters in mafia games on TL that have actually been mafia.

On May 22 2014 03:07 geript wrote:
I'm am summoning my inner Plammer. Lynch all claims. Start with BH. He isn't quite as fun to lynch as VE but sacrifices must be made. Also I called it like early on.