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On May 22 2014 21:52 Yell0w wrote:Show nested quote +On May 22 2014 21:48 jampidampi wrote:
Yell0w, what do you think about layabout? Oh, I definitely disagree with you, I thought he seemed genuine when I first read it and again when you reposted it, it's actually a reaction I could see myself having if something like that happened to me. So I don't think that makes him scum at all.
But I can't seem to find a reason why became angry between those posts. From the post it seems that he got angry because more people were jumping onto him, but that didn't hapen in that timeframe, so I'm confused as to why he wasn't angry in the first post.
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On May 22 2014 22:01 layabout wrote:Show nested quote +On May 22 2014 21:56 jampidampi wrote:On May 22 2014 21:52 Yell0w wrote:On May 22 2014 21:48 jampidampi wrote:
Yell0w, what do you think about layabout? Oh, I definitely disagree with you, I thought he seemed genuine when I first read it and again when you reposted it, it's actually a reaction I could see myself having if something like that happened to me. So I don't think that makes him scum at all. But I can't seem to find a reason why became angry between those posts. From the post it seems that he got angry because more people were jumping onto him, but that didn't hapen in that timeframe, so I'm confused as to why he wasn't angry in the first post. It was because i (re?)read more of the thread between them, i can't remember if i had fully caught up with the first one what do you think about ritoky?
Well if you had only read the thread up to Marvs vote on you when you posted the first post, I can definetely see you getting angry over people hopping onto you or saying they would look into you more. Hmm... That actually makes me think you're town based on how you seemed to still be angry in your ritoky case. Which seems like an emotional backlash, but it has good points in it. Could lynch him, but I think I'd rather see tamburinis head roll.
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@Bunnies
Could you your scumread on me? You haven't done so yet.
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On May 22 2014 23:49 27ninjabunnies wrote:
Its mostly a gut read than anything.
There's nothing really of substance to me in your filter. There was a small push on Xat but nothing came out of it, then there was the interaction between me and MZ, which you called me scummy for, which in a way I understand now teading nack through it. But then you afk, come back with a post of reads with no substance behind any of it. Afk again basically, and then come back in the last few hours (miracuously just hours before the deadline) and try to seem like you are participating.
So that's my scumread on you.
So I'm scum because my sleeping schedule is considered normal and because I didn't have much free time yesterday? Nice to know.
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On May 22 2014 23:57 Xatalos wrote:
It's weird that he doesn't bother to post anything while having the most votes, yeah..... And since he's been around too..... Dunno. Maybe he's just scum. I still feel like jampidampi would flip scum more likely.
You do know that your case on me mostly shows your lack reading comprehension?
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On May 23 2014 00:32 Xatalos wrote:Show nested quote +On May 23 2014 00:01 jampidampi wrote:On May 22 2014 23:57 Xatalos wrote:
It's weird that he doesn't bother to post anything while having the most votes, yeah..... And since he's been around too..... Dunno. Maybe he's just scum. I still feel like jampidampi would flip scum more likely. You do know that your case on me mostly shows your lack reading comprehension? I guess you refer to the fact that I misread your "case" on mtamburini. It's not an anyhow major part of why I think you're scum, and it carries the same point of you just following thread sentiment anyway. How is that "mostly"?
You still don't get it?
Others have already shown how I played early, so I'll just quote one of them:
On May 22 2014 19:00 Koshi wrote:Show nested quote +On May 22 2014 18:46 ritoky wrote:
but if you post 10x in a thread and all of it is shit, that's a 100% shit rate, which makes you a shitter in my mind at least. guess it's more of a % useful material thing for me.
Since it seems like there is only 3 of us here, let's have a bit of a chat.
@Marv/geript
I am a little bit hung up on an odd interaction in the early game, that was part of the original reads I gave when I called MZ my top town. It was when he noticed Jampidampi supporting the people he would never lynch on day 1. I was actually a bit wrong on that when I went back and looked at it again. 27ninjabunnies was the one who said it, and she actually said "there is no way I would lynch meapak this game". Which meapak felt was very strange and then jampidampi hopped in to defend bunnies against that and a couple other accusations headed her way at the time.
What do you think of that interaction, because to me it seems very odd, or if you don't particularly think anything of it what do you think about those 3 people?
I am rereading that and to me it seems jampidampi started with questioning MZ about bunnies. MZ replies that bunnies made an "unguarded" comment and is likely town. jampidampi pressures MZ and is giving bunnies a scumread for being overly defensive. He is telling MZ that the way MZ clears Bunnies is wrong and that he should revisit that read. MZ doesn't do that and jampi gives MZ a light scumread for it. This is pretty towny from Jampi tbh. quotes: ↓ + Show Spoiler +On May 21 2014 07:40 jampidampi wrote:Show nested quote +On May 21 2014 07:11 Meapak_Ziphh wrote:On May 21 2014 07:08 jampidampi wrote:
Meapak earlier you were interested in 27ninjabunnies, did you gather anything from my conversation with her? If you had to bet on her alignment, what would you guess? ehhhh I understand the part about gut reads, I've had them myself and I know how frustrating it is to try and explain them. I give her (is ninja a her?) a pass for now because her posts seem very unguarded and often early game is when scum are most uptight. Unguarded? To me it seems that she is very defensive here: Show nested quote +On May 21 2014 06:52 27ninjabunnies wrote:On May 21 2014 06:45 jampidampi wrote:On May 21 2014 06:39 27ninjabunnies wrote:On May 21 2014 06:27 jampidampi wrote:On May 21 2014 06:21 27ninjabunnies wrote:
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It's also obvious who are going to jump out in the front and try and lead town one way or another. We definitely have a mafia or two in the first couple of pages.
You sound confident, enough that I think you have your eye on someone already. Care to share as to who it may be? I may have my eye on a few people. From my experience, there are two type of mafia people: the lurkers, and the ones who like to come out first day and take control of town. I'm focusing on the latter because they are the ones to likely talk more, you can easily find their slips (if any), and they are also more likely to last longer than the lurker mafia. Why are you avoiding my question? I asked you to name your suspicions, but instead you give an indefinite answear and then babble on about something that could reasonably be figured out from your earlier post. If I'm avoiding your question, it's because I have a pretty good damn reason as to why. But because you are being persistant, the ones I have my eye on are Steveling, WaveofShadow and Tehpoofter. But this doesn't necessarily mean they are scum. I rather read more of their play and interactions before I straight out call someone mafia. The majority of these people I haven't played with, and this is my second forum game. If I don't have logic behind my reads, where does that put me? As a freaking town more likely to get mislynched. So hold your horses, let me get my reads, and then we'll talk. She has "a pretty damn good reason" to avoid my question, yet she anwears it. Earlier she said that "we definitely have a mafia or two" but now they are not necessarily scum. Brining out the newbie card, defending accusations that don't exist. I would definitely not call this post unguarded. Based on this I wouldn't clear bunnies so easily, but now you're interesting. What makes you think she was "unguarded" in this post? + Show Spoiler +For the annoyed thing, if she was slightly pissed at me, I would understand this kind of backlash. On May 21 2014 07:56 jampidampi wrote:Show nested quote +On May 21 2014 07:44 Meapak_Ziphh wrote:On May 21 2014 07:40 jampidampi wrote:On May 21 2014 07:11 Meapak_Ziphh wrote:On May 21 2014 07:08 jampidampi wrote:
Meapak earlier you were interested in 27ninjabunnies, did you gather anything from my conversation with her? If you had to bet on her alignment, what would you guess? ehhhh I understand the part about gut reads, I've had them myself and I know how frustrating it is to try and explain them. I give her (is ninja a her?) a pass for now because her posts seem very unguarded and often early game is when scum are most uptight. Unguarded? To me it seems that she is very defensive here: On May 21 2014 06:52 27ninjabunnies wrote:On May 21 2014 06:45 jampidampi wrote:On May 21 2014 06:39 27ninjabunnies wrote:On May 21 2014 06:27 jampidampi wrote:On May 21 2014 06:21 27ninjabunnies wrote:
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It's also obvious who are going to jump out in the front and try and lead town one way or another. We definitely have a mafia or two in the first couple of pages.
You sound confident, enough that I think you have your eye on someone already. Care to share as to who it may be? I may have my eye on a few people. From my experience, there are two type of mafia people: the lurkers, and the ones who like to come out first day and take control of town. I'm focusing on the latter because they are the ones to likely talk more, you can easily find their slips (if any), and they are also more likely to last longer than the lurker mafia. Why are you avoiding my question? I asked you to name your suspicions, but instead you give an indefinite answear and then babble on about something that could reasonably be figured out from your earlier post. If I'm avoiding your question, it's because I have a pretty good damn reason as to why. But because you are being persistant, the ones I have my eye on are Steveling, WaveofShadow and Tehpoofter. But this doesn't necessarily mean they are scum. I rather read more of their play and interactions before I straight out call someone mafia. The majority of these people I haven't played with, and this is my second forum game. If I don't have logic behind my reads, where does that put me? As a freaking town more likely to get mislynched. So hold your horses, let me get my reads, and then we'll talk. She has "a pretty damn good reason" to avoid my question, yet she anwears it. Earlier she said that "we definitely have a mafia or two" but now they are not necessarily scum. Brining out the newbie card, defending accusations that don't exist. I would definitely not call this post unguarded. Based on this I wouldn't clear bunnies so easily, but now you're interesting. What makes you think she was "unguarded" in this post? + Show Spoiler +For the annoyed thing, if she was slightly pissed at me, I would understand this kind of backlash. I agree that she made a terrible post there, my "unguarded" comment did not specifically relate to any one post in particular and more to her style of posting over all. My personal concern with her is actually her sudden clearing of me after I lightly defended her. It's waaaay too early in the game to say you won't lynch someone, even if you qualify it with D1. It still kinda baffles me that you could ignore such a heavy contrast to your generalization about bunnies play. Makes me think that you didn't actually put that much thought into it, which makes me think you might be scum. It's soon 2 AM here, so see you all tomorrow ______ From reading Jampi filter is goes like this: Jampi: Hey Bunnies I think you are scum. Let's interact. (interacting with scumread) Jampi: Hey MZ, do you agree with my scumread on Bunnies. (Interacts with MZ, gives MZ scumread for not seeing what he sees) This shows that jampi had a strong read on Bunnies at that time. Town mindset.
Showing how I come to conclusions. Thus there are no filler questions without conclusions. If you refering to my entrance to the thread, then I wonder how you missed my conclusion that you were scum.
Do I need to go on?
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On May 23 2014 01:08 Xatalos wrote:Show nested quote +On May 23 2014 00:51 jampidampi wrote:On May 23 2014 00:32 Xatalos wrote:On May 23 2014 00:01 jampidampi wrote:On May 22 2014 23:57 Xatalos wrote:
It's weird that he doesn't bother to post anything while having the most votes, yeah..... And since he's been around too..... Dunno. Maybe he's just scum. I still feel like jampidampi would flip scum more likely. You do know that your case on me mostly shows your lack reading comprehension? I guess you refer to the fact that I misread your "case" on mtamburini. It's not an anyhow major part of why I think you're scum, and it carries the same point of you just following thread sentiment anyway. How is that "mostly"? You still don't get it? Others have already shown how I played early, so I'll just quote one of them: On May 22 2014 19:00 Koshi wrote:On May 22 2014 18:46 ritoky wrote:
but if you post 10x in a thread and all of it is shit, that's a 100% shit rate, which makes you a shitter in my mind at least. guess it's more of a % useful material thing for me.
Since it seems like there is only 3 of us here, let's have a bit of a chat.
@Marv/geript
I am a little bit hung up on an odd interaction in the early game, that was part of the original reads I gave when I called MZ my top town. It was when he noticed Jampidampi supporting the people he would never lynch on day 1. I was actually a bit wrong on that when I went back and looked at it again. 27ninjabunnies was the one who said it, and she actually said "there is no way I would lynch meapak this game". Which meapak felt was very strange and then jampidampi hopped in to defend bunnies against that and a couple other accusations headed her way at the time.
What do you think of that interaction, because to me it seems very odd, or if you don't particularly think anything of it what do you think about those 3 people?
I am rereading that and to me it seems jampidampi started with questioning MZ about bunnies. MZ replies that bunnies made an "unguarded" comment and is likely town. jampidampi pressures MZ and is giving bunnies a scumread for being overly defensive. He is telling MZ that the way MZ clears Bunnies is wrong and that he should revisit that read. MZ doesn't do that and jampi gives MZ a light scumread for it. This is pretty towny from Jampi tbh. quotes: ↓ + Show Spoiler +On May 21 2014 07:40 jampidampi wrote:Show nested quote +On May 21 2014 07:11 Meapak_Ziphh wrote:On May 21 2014 07:08 jampidampi wrote:
Meapak earlier you were interested in 27ninjabunnies, did you gather anything from my conversation with her? If you had to bet on her alignment, what would you guess? ehhhh I understand the part about gut reads, I've had them myself and I know how frustrating it is to try and explain them. I give her (is ninja a her?) a pass for now because her posts seem very unguarded and often early game is when scum are most uptight. Unguarded? To me it seems that she is very defensive here: Show nested quote +On May 21 2014 06:52 27ninjabunnies wrote:On May 21 2014 06:45 jampidampi wrote:On May 21 2014 06:39 27ninjabunnies wrote:On May 21 2014 06:27 jampidampi wrote:On May 21 2014 06:21 27ninjabunnies wrote:
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It's also obvious who are going to jump out in the front and try and lead town one way or another. We definitely have a mafia or two in the first couple of pages.
You sound confident, enough that I think you have your eye on someone already. Care to share as to who it may be? I may have my eye on a few people. From my experience, there are two type of mafia people: the lurkers, and the ones who like to come out first day and take control of town. I'm focusing on the latter because they are the ones to likely talk more, you can easily find their slips (if any), and they are also more likely to last longer than the lurker mafia. Why are you avoiding my question? I asked you to name your suspicions, but instead you give an indefinite answear and then babble on about something that could reasonably be figured out from your earlier post. If I'm avoiding your question, it's because I have a pretty good damn reason as to why. But because you are being persistant, the ones I have my eye on are Steveling, WaveofShadow and Tehpoofter. But this doesn't necessarily mean they are scum. I rather read more of their play and interactions before I straight out call someone mafia. The majority of these people I haven't played with, and this is my second forum game. If I don't have logic behind my reads, where does that put me? As a freaking town more likely to get mislynched. So hold your horses, let me get my reads, and then we'll talk. She has "a pretty damn good reason" to avoid my question, yet she anwears it. Earlier she said that "we definitely have a mafia or two" but now they are not necessarily scum. Brining out the newbie card, defending accusations that don't exist. I would definitely not call this post unguarded. Based on this I wouldn't clear bunnies so easily, but now you're interesting. What makes you think she was "unguarded" in this post? + Show Spoiler +For the annoyed thing, if she was slightly pissed at me, I would understand this kind of backlash. On May 21 2014 07:56 jampidampi wrote:Show nested quote +On May 21 2014 07:44 Meapak_Ziphh wrote:On May 21 2014 07:40 jampidampi wrote:On May 21 2014 07:11 Meapak_Ziphh wrote:On May 21 2014 07:08 jampidampi wrote:
Meapak earlier you were interested in 27ninjabunnies, did you gather anything from my conversation with her? If you had to bet on her alignment, what would you guess? ehhhh I understand the part about gut reads, I've had them myself and I know how frustrating it is to try and explain them. I give her (is ninja a her?) a pass for now because her posts seem very unguarded and often early game is when scum are most uptight. Unguarded? To me it seems that she is very defensive here: On May 21 2014 06:52 27ninjabunnies wrote:On May 21 2014 06:45 jampidampi wrote:On May 21 2014 06:39 27ninjabunnies wrote:On May 21 2014 06:27 jampidampi wrote:On May 21 2014 06:21 27ninjabunnies wrote:
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It's also obvious who are going to jump out in the front and try and lead town one way or another. We definitely have a mafia or two in the first couple of pages.
You sound confident, enough that I think you have your eye on someone already. Care to share as to who it may be? I may have my eye on a few people. From my experience, there are two type of mafia people: the lurkers, and the ones who like to come out first day and take control of town. I'm focusing on the latter because they are the ones to likely talk more, you can easily find their slips (if any), and they are also more likely to last longer than the lurker mafia. Why are you avoiding my question? I asked you to name your suspicions, but instead you give an indefinite answear and then babble on about something that could reasonably be figured out from your earlier post. If I'm avoiding your question, it's because I have a pretty good damn reason as to why. But because you are being persistant, the ones I have my eye on are Steveling, WaveofShadow and Tehpoofter. But this doesn't necessarily mean they are scum. I rather read more of their play and interactions before I straight out call someone mafia. The majority of these people I haven't played with, and this is my second forum game. If I don't have logic behind my reads, where does that put me? As a freaking town more likely to get mislynched. So hold your horses, let me get my reads, and then we'll talk. She has "a pretty damn good reason" to avoid my question, yet she anwears it. Earlier she said that "we definitely have a mafia or two" but now they are not necessarily scum. Brining out the newbie card, defending accusations that don't exist. I would definitely not call this post unguarded. Based on this I wouldn't clear bunnies so easily, but now you're interesting. What makes you think she was "unguarded" in this post? + Show Spoiler +For the annoyed thing, if she was slightly pissed at me, I would understand this kind of backlash. I agree that she made a terrible post there, my "unguarded" comment did not specifically relate to any one post in particular and more to her style of posting over all. My personal concern with her is actually her sudden clearing of me after I lightly defended her. It's waaaay too early in the game to say you won't lynch someone, even if you qualify it with D1. It still kinda baffles me that you could ignore such a heavy contrast to your generalization about bunnies play. Makes me think that you didn't actually put that much thought into it, which makes me think you might be scum. It's soon 2 AM here, so see you all tomorrow ______ From reading Jampi filter is goes like this: Jampi: Hey Bunnies I think you are scum. Let's interact. (interacting with scumread) Jampi: Hey MZ, do you agree with my scumread on Bunnies. (Interacts with MZ, gives MZ scumread for not seeing what he sees) This shows that jampi had a strong read on Bunnies at that time. Town mindset. Showing how I come to conclusions. Thus there are no filler questions without conclusions. If you refering to my entrance to the thread, then I wonder how you missed my conclusion that you were scum. Do I need to go on? You seriously read me as scum? >.> Even now? Surely it's not based on those early troll posts...? Hm, actually there's a bit more content in your filter than I noticed earlier. You even did come to conclusions based on some of your questions. There are some meaningless questions in between, but I can see some of them being more town-aligned.
No, I don't currently think you're scum, but the case certainly didn't help with that. Though it was a semi-serious read, you have displayed some decent thoughts, like trying to figure Marv out.
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You should all feel bad about not lynching tamburini. Just look at how reliefed he is about not getting lynched while proceeding to do nothing helpful. If a vig doesn't flip him I'll be pushing for his lynch D2.
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Bh looks worse, he's very opportunistic about the hole Odin case, just when people voice concerns about not paying atention to Odin because of the RNG, BAM there's a case on him.
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Mtamburini should be the lynch today. He was a good candidate day 1, and those reasons to lynch him still apply. There's nothing relevant to town in his filter during N1 or D2. He was almost lynched, so you would think he would be trying to appear townie, but he's just going on and on about things and not scumhunting.
There also an interesting fact that he read Steveling as scum, but still votes poofter that he read as null.
Stating Steveling is scum:
Show nested quote +On May 21 2014 06:56 Steveling wrote:I don't like how haven't jumped on me because of this post On May 21 2014 06:48 Steveling wrote:
I will now call upon my previous town game where I was the only player to vote for scum the entire game, lmao, and I played like I didn't give a fuck, like I will do in this game.
So, for everyone who has ever played with me, you should know that I'm town as town can possibly town. We have many scum right now active, mark my words. Lets just imagine a game where scum never talked in a game. Would that not be the easiest game in the world? More obvious statements that are obvious. ME NO LIKE YOUUUUUUUUUUU Steveling town? guttread? My gut says Leee mafia. Maybe you had something bad for dinner. Come over to my place Ill cook for the both of us and maybe are gut reads will align. Show nested quote +On May 21 2014 09:46 Holyflare wrote:
uhhhh so your only read is steveling now tambo? Fucking looks like it, and I really wanted to get you lynched day1. If steve is the guy going against HF he is in my bad boy list and would lynch today. Show nested quote +On May 21 2014 11:48 Steveling wrote:On May 21 2014 11:45 Holyflare wrote:
it's not trash talk i'm updating hapa on why i'm voting you because you're doing the exact same things and this game i'm town so really you are playing completely anti win-con this game (which is what you were doing last game too) and until you learn to respect that and actually play mafia then i'll say what i feel like What should I do then? How to be good towny? Dislike this ALOT. You cannot be taught to be town you just are. Mafia has to try and act town. Show nested quote +On May 24 2014 05:41 kushm4sta wrote:
so how is steveling scum if he is new to forum mafia (right?) and he has 17 pages. new scum don't do that. So you are under the impression that new players that talk a lot and have a big filter cant be scum?
Stating Poofter is neutral/null:
This is tehpoofter I like. Moved you to neutral. I have a lot of reading to catch up on so if I had to found scum based on the first 45 pages of this game I probably couldnt do so. poofter was in my initial scum reads moving towards null.
Do right was went wrong yesterday, and lynch this guy.
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There seesm to be some confusion as to why I thought MZ was scummy and why I didn't later, so let's just clear that. + Show Spoiler +Based on how he was interested in my question to bunnies: On May 21 2014 06:29 Meapak_Ziphh wrote:Show nested quote +On May 21 2014 06:27 jampidampi wrote:On May 21 2014 06:21 27ninjabunnies wrote:
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It's also obvious who are going to jump out in the front and try and lead town one way or another. We definitely have a mafia or two in the first couple of pages.
You sound confident, enough that I think you have your eye on someone already. Care to share as to who it may be? Dis is some gud shit right here. Ninja bro I'd like to hear about this as well. I made an assumption that he was following our conversation with interest. My orginal question was aimed to confirm my suspicions of bunnies. But MZ response ignored the post that was most controversial in her filter: On May 21 2014 07:11 Meapak_Ziphh wrote:Show nested quote +On May 21 2014 07:08 jampidampi wrote:
Meapak earlier you were interested in 27ninjabunnies, did you gather anything from my conversation with her? If you had to bet on her alignment, what would you guess? ehhhh I understand the part about gut reads, I've had them myself and I know how frustrating it is to try and explain them. I give her (is ninja a her?) a pass for now because her posts seem very unguarded and often early game is when scum are most uptight. To me it seemed that he hadn't thought about her alignment, even though I specifially asked him to do so. It just seemed unnatural to ignore that post when thinking about her alignment. So I started thinking about different ways of interpreting that post. Having a plausible town explanation, I asked bunnies about it, but she firmly denied it. So I ask MZ if he had another townie explanation for that post, but he basicly agreed with me: On May 21 2014 07:44 Meapak_Ziphh wrote:Show nested quote +On May 21 2014 07:40 jampidampi wrote:On May 21 2014 07:11 Meapak_Ziphh wrote:On May 21 2014 07:08 jampidampi wrote:
Meapak earlier you were interested in 27ninjabunnies, did you gather anything from my conversation with her? If you had to bet on her alignment, what would you guess? ehhhh I understand the part about gut reads, I've had them myself and I know how frustrating it is to try and explain them. I give her (is ninja a her?) a pass for now because her posts seem very unguarded and often early game is when scum are most uptight. Unguarded? To me it seems that she is very defensive here: On May 21 2014 06:52 27ninjabunnies wrote:On May 21 2014 06:45 jampidampi wrote:On May 21 2014 06:39 27ninjabunnies wrote:On May 21 2014 06:27 jampidampi wrote:On May 21 2014 06:21 27ninjabunnies wrote:
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It's also obvious who are going to jump out in the front and try and lead town one way or another. We definitely have a mafia or two in the first couple of pages.
You sound confident, enough that I think you have your eye on someone already. Care to share as to who it may be? I may have my eye on a few people. From my experience, there are two type of mafia people: the lurkers, and the ones who like to come out first day and take control of town. I'm focusing on the latter because they are the ones to likely talk more, you can easily find their slips (if any), and they are also more likely to last longer than the lurker mafia. Why are you avoiding my question? I asked you to name your suspicions, but instead you give an indefinite answear and then babble on about something that could reasonably be figured out from your earlier post. If I'm avoiding your question, it's because I have a pretty good damn reason as to why. But because you are being persistant, the ones I have my eye on are Steveling, WaveofShadow and Tehpoofter. But this doesn't necessarily mean they are scum. I rather read more of their play and interactions before I straight out call someone mafia. The majority of these people I haven't played with, and this is my second forum game. If I don't have logic behind my reads, where does that put me? As a freaking town more likely to get mislynched. So hold your horses, let me get my reads, and then we'll talk. She has "a pretty damn good reason" to avoid my question, yet she anwears it. Earlier she said that "we definitely have a mafia or two" but now they are not necessarily scum. Brining out the newbie card, defending accusations that don't exist. I would definitely not call this post unguarded. Based on this I wouldn't clear bunnies so easily, but now you're interesting. What makes you think she was "unguarded" in this post? + Show Spoiler +For the annoyed thing, if she was slightly pissed at me, I would understand this kind of backlash. I agree that she made a terrible post there, my "unguarded" comment did not specifically relate to any one post in particular and more to her style of posting over all. My personal concern with her is actually her sudden clearing of me after I lightly defended her. It's waaaay too early in the game to say you won't lynch someone, even if you qualify it with D1. If he thought the post was terrible, why didn't he address it at all when I asked him about bunnies? So I give him a light scumread for it and go to sleep. He leaves his response in the thread: On May 21 2014 08:00 Meapak_Ziphh wrote:Show nested quote +On May 21 2014 07:56 jampidampi wrote:On May 21 2014 07:44 Meapak_Ziphh wrote:On May 21 2014 07:40 jampidampi wrote:On May 21 2014 07:11 Meapak_Ziphh wrote:On May 21 2014 07:08 jampidampi wrote:
Meapak earlier you were interested in 27ninjabunnies, did you gather anything from my conversation with her? If you had to bet on her alignment, what would you guess? ehhhh I understand the part about gut reads, I've had them myself and I know how frustrating it is to try and explain them. I give her (is ninja a her?) a pass for now because her posts seem very unguarded and often early game is when scum are most uptight. Unguarded? To me it seems that she is very defensive here: On May 21 2014 06:52 27ninjabunnies wrote:On May 21 2014 06:45 jampidampi wrote:On May 21 2014 06:39 27ninjabunnies wrote:On May 21 2014 06:27 jampidampi wrote:On May 21 2014 06:21 27ninjabunnies wrote:
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It's also obvious who are going to jump out in the front and try and lead town one way or another. We definitely have a mafia or two in the first couple of pages.
You sound confident, enough that I think you have your eye on someone already. Care to share as to who it may be? I may have my eye on a few people. From my experience, there are two type of mafia people: the lurkers, and the ones who like to come out first day and take control of town. I'm focusing on the latter because they are the ones to likely talk more, you can easily find their slips (if any), and they are also more likely to last longer than the lurker mafia. Why are you avoiding my question? I asked you to name your suspicions, but instead you give an indefinite answear and then babble on about something that could reasonably be figured out from your earlier post. If I'm avoiding your question, it's because I have a pretty good damn reason as to why. But because you are being persistant, the ones I have my eye on are Steveling, WaveofShadow and Tehpoofter. But this doesn't necessarily mean they are scum. I rather read more of their play and interactions before I straight out call someone mafia. The majority of these people I haven't played with, and this is my second forum game. If I don't have logic behind my reads, where does that put me? As a freaking town more likely to get mislynched. So hold your horses, let me get my reads, and then we'll talk. She has "a pretty damn good reason" to avoid my question, yet she anwears it. Earlier she said that "we definitely have a mafia or two" but now they are not necessarily scum. Brining out the newbie card, defending accusations that don't exist. I would definitely not call this post unguarded. Based on this I wouldn't clear bunnies so easily, but now you're interesting. What makes you think she was "unguarded" in this post? + Show Spoiler +For the annoyed thing, if she was slightly pissed at me, I would understand this kind of backlash. I agree that she made a terrible post there, my "unguarded" comment did not specifically relate to any one post in particular and more to her style of posting over all. My personal concern with her is actually her sudden clearing of me after I lightly defended her. It's waaaay too early in the game to say you won't lynch someone, even if you qualify it with D1. It still kinda baffles me that you could ignore such a heavy contrast to your generalization about bunnies play. Makes me think that you didn't actually put that much thought into it, which makes me think you might be scum. It's soon 2 AM here, so see you all tomorrow I mean if you want I can go through her filter and point out every place I thought she made an unguarded or off the cuff post. I don't think I'm ignoring the contrast, I'm just not condemning someone for one bad post (although I understand that's all you need sometimes). On the other hand, I do have serious reservations because of her buddying. Look she's probably not gonna be my D1 lynch choice right now, I'm trying to make myself as clear as possible. Have a goodnight, I'll be more than happy to answer further questions when you wake up. When I read the thread I started reconsidering my read on him. I pondered the other aspects of his play. The way MZ went after Kita resounded heavily with how I play. His responses in our conversation had a "I don't care how you see things, this is how I see them" feel to them, especially in the last one. His thoughts were consistent and read evolved in a natural way. The final thing to swing me over was that everyone seemed to be ignoring what I had said if was not directed at them specifially, so him ignoring my interaction with bunnies didn't seem as abnormal. I mean even Cephiro, who tunneled bunnies hardcore, ignored my posts.
I don't think there's a reason to let austin live, since based on what he has told us his powers aren't helpful to us. Unless ofcourse he can tell how protown the abilities of his Djinnis are and how he'll ensure that they are used to the benefit of town.
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On May 26 2014 02:27 austinmcc wrote:
Care to comment on anything else?
Have anything specific in mind?
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On May 26 2014 02:29 austinmcc wrote:
Ye Olde Game.
Mtam, the guy you wanted to lynch yesterday.
etc.etc.etc.etc.etc.etc.
Not much to say about mtam, he has only posted once since I last addressed him and the post is not that good. Still a good lynch, but not better than a claimed nontown.
Don't understand what you are referring to in the first part, could you say it somehow differently?
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On May 26 2014 02:53 OnceKing wrote:
i think jampidampi's entire discussion of why he was suspicious of MZ after MZ is already dead is pretty pointless.
Except, you know, people were trying to lynch me for that.
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On May 26 2014 03:23 austinmcc wrote:Show nested quote +On May 26 2014 03:21 Xatalos wrote:
What do you think would happen if we both visited each other, austin? Well I recruit. Permanently. I don't think you can unrecruit (see stuff about QTs). Therefore, you're either lying about something OR you're involved in something else As far as I know, if you're town I would recruit you, you'd lose your powers but gain better ones, you'd become cooler, you'd get to hang out in a cool QT, be nice and warm, etc. etc. Notice how all those are positive. If you're mafia, I would burn all yo powers off, because my powers are awesome and I've decided they're better than whatever scum powers you would have. Which is to say I don't think I become a vanilla me.
So you're not interested in claiming what powers you give to people in an effort to survive?
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On May 26 2014 03:29 Xatalos wrote:Show nested quote +On May 26 2014 03:23 austinmcc wrote:On May 26 2014 03:21 Xatalos wrote:
What do you think would happen if we both visited each other, austin? Well I recruit. Permanently. I don't think you can unrecruit (see stuff about QTs). Therefore, you're either lying about something OR you're involved in something else As far as I know, if you're town I would recruit you, you'd lose your powers but gain better ones, you'd become cooler, you'd get to hang out in a cool QT, be nice and warm, etc. etc. Notice how all those are positive. If you're mafia, I would burn all yo powers off, because my powers are awesome and I've decided they're better than whatever scum powers you would have. Which is to say I don't think I become a vanilla me. Well, the wording is about this: "You can remove an attached Djinn and restore it to your control." Does that help?
Wait, if the djinni is returned to be under your control, doesn't that mean you controlled it orginally?
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So my urge to lynch mtam is still strong, but if a vig would like to make my life easier they could just shoot him. Or they could just shoot thrawn, but that wouldn't make me as happy, though still kinda postively minded.
*Stares into geript*
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