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On May 21 2014 07:02 Meapak_Ziphh wrote: @thrawn: plz tell me you're trying to be lynch bait as part of a plan to catch the people who go after you.
Well if that was the plan, no one's gonna follow it now!
Though I don't like how thrawn was defensive there.
7 pages of people talking, and he has nothing to say?
Is that his usual play?
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On May 21 2014 07:05 Holyflare wrote:Show nested quote +On May 21 2014 07:03 Meapak_Ziphh wrote:On May 21 2014 07:02 Holyflare wrote: #logic So sexy Now do you have any other ideas other than that? bunnies talked about mafia definitely being present in game so also mafia
So me pointing out that there are probably a few mafia that are present, makes me mafia?
Cause I would so point out something that indicates myself as mafia.
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I was about to say, BOONE IS IN THIS GAME?
Then realized he meant me. How disappointing. I wish I was as awesome as boone.
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On May 21 2014 07:09 Tehpoofter wrote:Show nested quote +On May 21 2014 06:57 Koshi wrote:On May 21 2014 06:52 27ninjabunnies wrote:On May 21 2014 06:45 jampidampi wrote:On May 21 2014 06:39 27ninjabunnies wrote:On May 21 2014 06:27 jampidampi wrote:On May 21 2014 06:21 27ninjabunnies wrote:
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It's also obvious who are going to jump out in the front and try and lead town one way or another. We definitely have a mafia or two in the first couple of pages.
You sound confident, enough that I think you have your eye on someone already. Care to share as to who it may be? I may have my eye on a few people. From my experience, there are two type of mafia people: the lurkers, and the ones who like to come out first day and take control of town. I'm focusing on the latter because they are the ones to likely talk more, you can easily find their slips (if any), and they are also more likely to last longer than the lurker mafia. Why are you avoiding my question? I asked you to name your suspicions, but instead you give an indefinite answear and then babble on about something that could reasonably be figured out from your earlier post. If I'm avoiding your question, it's because I have a pretty good damn reason as to why. But because you are being persistant, the ones I have my eye on are Steveling, WaveofShadow and Tehpoofter. But this doesn't necessarily mean they are scum. I rather read more of their play and interactions before I straight out call someone mafia. The majority of these people I haven't played with, and this is my second forum game. If I don't have logic behind my reads, where does that put me? As a freaking town more likely to get mislynched. So hold your horses, let me get my reads, and then we'll talk. WoS probably town, that whiny thing about the VT thing looked legit. Just because he does it each time. Steveling also town. gutread. Poofter dnu. Your Master has spoken his first words of Wisdom. Whats "dnu" stand for?
Im pretty sure he meant "don't know"
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On May 21 2014 07:11 Yell0w wrote:SHE USED SARCASM! LET'S LYNCH HER!
Well, well, yell0w.
We meet again. You just salty I called you scum first day for you calling yourself mafia.
Good thing I pulled off of you that game.
Let's not make the same mistake twice, yeah?
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@HF- I am very much town this game. Pointing out mafia things in my post does not mean I'm mafia. It means I'm assesing the game and trying to find out who mafia are. But nice try in trolling me.
@Meapak- yeah, im a her.
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So here's where I am at.
I don't necessarily like thrawn. Not talking isn't productive for town. Whether he's stubborn town or straight up mafia, I'd lynch him in a heartbeat.
I also want to hear more from Jamp. He seems to be focussing on the 'reads' that I said I had within the first couple of pages, and then questions someone else on what they think about my reads, yet he hasn't really said anything about what he thinks. Also, why is he focussing on my reads? Not saying mine are bad, but im a new player, one he hasn't played with. So why does it matter necessarily what I think?
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On May 21 2014 07:22 Steveling wrote: ##unbote ##bote: Holyflare
Either your v doesn't work, or you don't know how to spell
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Also, I'd probably never lynch Meapak this game.
Or atleast day 1.
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On May 21 2014 07:28 jampidampi wrote:Show nested quote +On May 21 2014 07:23 27ninjabunnies wrote: So here's where I am at.
I don't necessarily like thrawn. Not talking isn't productive for town. Whether he's stubborn town or straight up mafia, I'd lynch him in a heartbeat.
I also want to hear more from Jamp. He seems to be focussing on the 'reads' that I said I had within the first couple of pages, and then questions someone else on what they think about my reads, yet he hasn't really said anything about what he thinks. Also, why is he focussing on my reads? Not saying mine are bad, but im a new player, one he hasn't played with. So why does it matter necessarily what I think?
Before I continue, were you annoyed with my guestions?
No, questions are good. They get reads. Reads are good.
So the questions were not annoying. I was more annoyed by the fact you said I was avoiding what you were asking.
I think I had made it clear as to why. But please continue. I want to hear more.
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On May 21 2014 07:31 jampidampi wrote:Show nested quote +On May 21 2014 07:30 27ninjabunnies wrote:On May 21 2014 07:28 jampidampi wrote:On May 21 2014 07:23 27ninjabunnies wrote: So here's where I am at.
I don't necessarily like thrawn. Not talking isn't productive for town. Whether he's stubborn town or straight up mafia, I'd lynch him in a heartbeat.
I also want to hear more from Jamp. He seems to be focussing on the 'reads' that I said I had within the first couple of pages, and then questions someone else on what they think about my reads, yet he hasn't really said anything about what he thinks. Also, why is he focussing on my reads? Not saying mine are bad, but im a new player, one he hasn't played with. So why does it matter necessarily what I think?
Before I continue, were you annoyed with my guestions? No, questions are good. They get reads. Reads are good. So the questions were not annoying. I was more annoyed by the fact you said I was avoiding what you were asking. I think I had made it clear as to why. But please continue. I want to hear more. To be clear, you were annouyed at me when you wrote this post: http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/mafia/440546-golden-sun-the-lost-age-mafia-djinn-edition?page=19#366right?
Nah, not annoyed at all. Sorry if it came off that way. I meant it more in a joking manner.
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On May 21 2014 07:37 geript wrote: So far: Marv-- has done nothing for my peepee. Usually as town he either makes it hard because he's obviously town or I think he's obviously mafia. Considering a shot. His push on Xat is pretty awful to, like there's little reason to expect Xat to flip scum on that basis.
Bunnies--I have a decent read on her in video. She's not done anything that makes me think she's town. She's also refusing to try to correctly read Banks as anything. That's really weird and her last post was awful.
Austin--he has yet to intercede to ABBA on behalf of my shot. That's pretty clearly mafia aligned. I'm very tempted to shoot him but he promised me cuddles and to carry me over the finish line.
Kush--probably town unfortunately.
Koshi--possibly town but I expected a more fun/playful response to my "are you naked" question. That's odd to me.
Wave--I'm soul reading my wubbybumpkins town.
Steveling--maybe town. Idk I think he's decentish as scum but he doesn't really strike me as the active chipper I want to do stuff type.
HF--hasn't commented on how he's the best ever and that we should policy lynch me before I get to shoot. Like that's pretty odd if he's town I would've expected some actual dickwaging in this trolling phase.
BH-- nothing he's done makes me think he's a good player. I thought he was awful last game and he was mafia. Same vibes here. He just looks like he's trash to be disposed of.
So I'm probably shooting within my scum pool tonight if you all don't sheep me. I'd much rather get info from a good lynch first though.
I want to point out: video mafia and forum mafia are two different aspects of mafia. Two: Just because I can read Banks well in video mafia, does not mean it transfers to forum. Also, he hasn't spoken too much for me to have a great read on him.
But some things I noticed: his vote on tamburini and his trying to get me to vote with him. These are reasons that I used when I told Jamp that he was one of the ones I was watching for as him being mafia from the first couple of pages.
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+ Show Spoiler +On May 21 2014 07:40 jampidampi wrote:Show nested quote +On May 21 2014 07:11 Meapak_Ziphh wrote:On May 21 2014 07:08 jampidampi wrote: Meapak earlier you were interested in 27ninjabunnies, did you gather anything from my conversation with her? If you had to bet on her alignment, what would you guess? ehhhh I understand the part about gut reads, I've had them myself and I know how frustrating it is to try and explain them. I give her (is ninja a her?) a pass for now because her posts seem very unguarded and often early game is when scum are most uptight. Unguarded? To me it seems that she is very defensive here: Show nested quote +On May 21 2014 06:52 27ninjabunnies wrote:On May 21 2014 06:45 jampidampi wrote:On May 21 2014 06:39 27ninjabunnies wrote:On May 21 2014 06:27 jampidampi wrote:On May 21 2014 06:21 27ninjabunnies wrote:
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It's also obvious who are going to jump out in the front and try and lead town one way or another. We definitely have a mafia or two in the first couple of pages.
You sound confident, enough that I think you have your eye on someone already. Care to share as to who it may be? I may have my eye on a few people. From my experience, there are two type of mafia people: the lurkers, and the ones who like to come out first day and take control of town. I'm focusing on the latter because they are the ones to likely talk more, you can easily find their slips (if any), and they are also more likely to last longer than the lurker mafia. Why are you avoiding my question? I asked you to name your suspicions, but instead you give an indefinite answear and then babble on about something that could reasonably be figured out from your earlier post. If I'm avoiding your question, it's because I have a pretty good damn reason as to why. But because you are being persistant, the ones I have my eye on are Steveling, WaveofShadow and Tehpoofter. But this doesn't necessarily mean they are scum. I rather read more of their play and interactions before I straight out call someone mafia. The majority of these people I haven't played with, and this is my second forum game. If I don't have logic behind my reads, where does that put me? As a freaking town more likely to get mislynched. So hold your horses, let me get my reads, and then we'll talk. She has "a pretty damn good reason" to avoid my question, yet she anwears it. Earlier she said that "we definitely have a mafia or two" but now they are not necessarily scum. Brining out the newbie card, defending accusations that don't exist. I would definitely not call this post unguarded. Based on this I wouldn't clear bunnies so easily, but now you're interesting. What makes you think she was "unguarded" in this post? + Show Spoiler +For the annoyed thing, if she was slightly pissed at me, I would understand this kind of backlash.
@Jamp I disagree that I was defensive. So I had two choices here in responding to you: I continue to "avoid" your question as you say I did, and I get read as mafia for avoiding the question, or I go ahead and let you know where my head is at and respond. I think yes, we definitely have a mafia or two within the first couple of pages. Tehpoofter, steve, and WOS were the ones that I were considering first out of the ones that have talked the first couple of pages, but my reads, as I'm sure you have seen since I talked about you and thrawn, have changed since then. And I'm not pulling out the newbie card. I haven't played with most of you, yes, but that I am a "newbie" doesn't matter. I've played plenty of mafia to know what I'm doing regardless of my alignment, so using the newbie card is stupid imo.
+ Show Spoiler +On May 21 2014 07:42 kitaman27 wrote:Show nested quote +On May 21 2014 06:17 27ninjabunnies wrote: I'd lynch HF in a heartbeat if he aligned with mafia. Show nested quote +On May 21 2014 06:23 27ninjabunnies wrote: Oh I'd lynch tamburini in a heartbeat regardless of his alignment. Show nested quote +On May 21 2014 07:28 WaveofShadow wrote: Sorry HF you've broken my heart too many times. ![[image loading]](http://img3.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20120309173425/goldensun/images/thumb/b/ba/GSHeart.jpg/240px-GSHeart.jpg) Chalis (ハート Heart) is an antagonist in Golden Sun: Dark Dawn. Together with Blados, she is one of the commanders of a secretive military nation named Tuaparang. All three are bad guys taunting us in the thread. I rest my case.
@Kita Haha, that is so awesome! If I actually knew this series, I would probably lynch myself for it. The fact I used heartbeat 3 times is just ridiculous!
+ Show Spoiler +On May 21 2014 07:44 Blazinghand wrote:Show nested quote +On May 21 2014 07:43 27ninjabunnies wrote:On May 21 2014 07:37 geript wrote: So far: Marv-- has done nothing for my peepee. Usually as town he either makes it hard because he's obviously town or I think he's obviously mafia. Considering a shot. His push on Xat is pretty awful to, like there's little reason to expect Xat to flip scum on that basis.
Bunnies--I have a decent read on her in video. She's not done anything that makes me think she's town. She's also refusing to try to correctly read Banks as anything. That's really weird and her last post was awful.
Austin--he has yet to intercede to ABBA on behalf of my shot. That's pretty clearly mafia aligned. I'm very tempted to shoot him but he promised me cuddles and to carry me over the finish line.
Kush--probably town unfortunately.
Koshi--possibly town but I expected a more fun/playful response to my "are you naked" question. That's odd to me.
Wave--I'm soul reading my wubbybumpkins town.
Steveling--maybe town. Idk I think he's decentish as scum but he doesn't really strike me as the active chipper I want to do stuff type.
HF--hasn't commented on how he's the best ever and that we should policy lynch me before I get to shoot. Like that's pretty odd if he's town I would've expected some actual dickwaging in this trolling phase.
BH-- nothing he's done makes me think he's a good player. I thought he was awful last game and he was mafia. Same vibes here. He just looks like he's trash to be disposed of.
So I'm probably shooting within my scum pool tonight if you all don't sheep me. I'd much rather get info from a good lynch first though. I want to point out: video mafia and forum mafia are two different aspects of mafia. Two: Just because I can read Banks well in video mafia, does not mean it transfers to forum. Also, he hasn't spoken too much for me to have a great read on him. But some things I noticed: his vote on tamburini and his trying to get me to vote with him. These are reasons that I used when I told Jamp that he was one of the ones I was watching for as him being mafia from the first couple of pages. so, 27nb, what are your thoughts on the possibility of an RNG lynch on OdinofPergo today? You haven't weighed in on my RNG posts.
@BH: I'm not sure tbh. RNG seems like an okay thing to do, especially with factions and the huge amount of possible scum we could have. But then again it's COULD have. But I like to lynch based off of reads and whom I find scummy or pretty certain are mafia. I don't even know if Odin has talked today, so I'd prob won't lynch him yet.
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On May 21 2014 07:56 jampidampi wrote:Show nested quote +On May 21 2014 07:44 Meapak_Ziphh wrote:On May 21 2014 07:40 jampidampi wrote:On May 21 2014 07:11 Meapak_Ziphh wrote:On May 21 2014 07:08 jampidampi wrote: Meapak earlier you were interested in 27ninjabunnies, did you gather anything from my conversation with her? If you had to bet on her alignment, what would you guess? ehhhh I understand the part about gut reads, I've had them myself and I know how frustrating it is to try and explain them. I give her (is ninja a her?) a pass for now because her posts seem very unguarded and often early game is when scum are most uptight. Unguarded? To me it seems that she is very defensive here: On May 21 2014 06:52 27ninjabunnies wrote:On May 21 2014 06:45 jampidampi wrote:On May 21 2014 06:39 27ninjabunnies wrote:On May 21 2014 06:27 jampidampi wrote:On May 21 2014 06:21 27ninjabunnies wrote:
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It's also obvious who are going to jump out in the front and try and lead town one way or another. We definitely have a mafia or two in the first couple of pages.
You sound confident, enough that I think you have your eye on someone already. Care to share as to who it may be? I may have my eye on a few people. From my experience, there are two type of mafia people: the lurkers, and the ones who like to come out first day and take control of town. I'm focusing on the latter because they are the ones to likely talk more, you can easily find their slips (if any), and they are also more likely to last longer than the lurker mafia. Why are you avoiding my question? I asked you to name your suspicions, but instead you give an indefinite answear and then babble on about something that could reasonably be figured out from your earlier post. If I'm avoiding your question, it's because I have a pretty good damn reason as to why. But because you are being persistant, the ones I have my eye on are Steveling, WaveofShadow and Tehpoofter. But this doesn't necessarily mean they are scum. I rather read more of their play and interactions before I straight out call someone mafia. The majority of these people I haven't played with, and this is my second forum game. If I don't have logic behind my reads, where does that put me? As a freaking town more likely to get mislynched. So hold your horses, let me get my reads, and then we'll talk. She has "a pretty damn good reason" to avoid my question, yet she anwears it. Earlier she said that "we definitely have a mafia or two" but now they are not necessarily scum. Brining out the newbie card, defending accusations that don't exist. I would definitely not call this post unguarded. Based on this I wouldn't clear bunnies so easily, but now you're interesting. What makes you think she was "unguarded" in this post? + Show Spoiler +For the annoyed thing, if she was slightly pissed at me, I would understand this kind of backlash. I agree that she made a terrible post there, my "unguarded" comment did not specifically relate to any one post in particular and more to her style of posting over all. My personal concern with her is actually her sudden clearing of me after I lightly defended her. It's waaaay too early in the game to say you won't lynch someone, even if you qualify it with D1. It still kinda baffles me that you could ignore such a heavy contrast to your generalization about bunnies play. Makes me think that you didn't actually put that much thought into it, which makes me think you might be scum. It's soon 2 AM here, so see you all tomorrow
@ MZ :It wasn't necessarily a straight clearing, and it has nothing to do with the fact you lightly town read me.
I like your reads, your questioning, and where your posts are going, they seem more townie to me. That's why I said I wouldn't lynch you day 1, but the other days are open.
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What happened to completely ignoring BH?
BH is more likely town here. Putting himself in the spotlight of town would be stupid as mafia unless he has many partners or knows he can get multiple mislynches within the next couple of days if he has town support and it's worth his lynch.
But BH is pushing a losing cause here. He doesn't have much of support at all.
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On May 21 2014 08:33 kushm4sta wrote:Show nested quote +On May 21 2014 08:26 27ninjabunnies wrote: What happened to completely ignoring BH?
BH is more likely town here. Putting himself in the spotlight of town would be stupid as mafia unless he has many partners or knows he can get multiple mislynches within the next couple of days if he has town support and it's worth his lynch.
But BH is pushing a losing cause here. He doesn't have much of support at all. This seems like very surface level thinking to me. Why wouldn't scum want to do what they do every game? Why don't scum want to put themselves in the spotlight? Activity looks townie.
Surface level, I suppose.
You think he is scum,yes? Does he do this as every game he is scum, or does he do this as both alignments?
I've not seen BH play before, so yeah, he could probably be mafia here putting himself in town's spotlight because he is as good as he says he is. But I don't know. I'm only telling you what I think, where I think his play is at the moment.
Activity does look townie. But regardless of mafia or town alignment you want to look townie.
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On May 21 2014 08:43 Tehpoofter wrote:Show nested quote +On May 21 2014 08:26 27ninjabunnies wrote: What happened to completely ignoring BH?
BH is more likely town here. Putting himself in the spotlight of town would be stupid as mafia unless he has many partners or knows he can get multiple mislynches within the next couple of days if he has town support and it's worth his lynch.
But BH is pushing a losing cause here. He doesn't have much of support at all. You've seen me play mafia before bunnies on video mafia I come out and just take over and do silly stuff because like BH here I think its very hard for me to get lynched as either alignment... clearly he is quite certain of himself and his playstyle so I think someone who has his persona might do something like this regardless of alignment because he can. Do you see that correlation? For what its worth I like what you have to say about thrawn his posts so far have been nothing.
Yeah, you do silly stuff regardless of your alignment. But I understand what you mean.
So BH, if you are so good as you say you are, besides you pushing RNG, what reads do you have outside of that?
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On May 21 2014 08:49 Blazinghand wrote:Show nested quote +On May 21 2014 07:57 27ninjabunnies wrote: @BH: I'm not sure tbh. RNG seems like an okay thing to do, especially with factions and the huge amount of possible scum we could have. But then again it's COULD have. But I like to lynch based off of reads and whom I find scummy or pretty certain are mafia. I don't even know if Odin has talked today, so I'd prob won't lynch him yet.
If RNG really seems okay to do, you'd do it regardless of whether or not someone else talks. The whole point of RNG is it's just based on that.
As I said, I like to base where I vote because of the way I am reading that person. RNG, while could work, I don't want to do it.
Like I said, you don't have a lot of support for this. And I'd rather find scum based on their play than a mechanical, statistical "game" you are trying to push here.
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On May 21 2014 08:50 Blazinghand wrote:Show nested quote +On May 21 2014 08:47 27ninjabunnies wrote:On May 21 2014 08:43 Tehpoofter wrote:On May 21 2014 08:26 27ninjabunnies wrote: What happened to completely ignoring BH?
BH is more likely town here. Putting himself in the spotlight of town would be stupid as mafia unless he has many partners or knows he can get multiple mislynches within the next couple of days if he has town support and it's worth his lynch.
But BH is pushing a losing cause here. He doesn't have much of support at all. You've seen me play mafia before bunnies on video mafia I come out and just take over and do silly stuff because like BH here I think its very hard for me to get lynched as either alignment... clearly he is quite certain of himself and his playstyle so I think someone who has his persona might do something like this regardless of alignment because he can. Do you see that correlation? For what its worth I like what you have to say about thrawn his posts so far have been nothing. Yeah, you do silly stuff regardless of your alignment. But I understand what you mean. So BH, if you are so good as you say you are, besides you pushing RNG, what reads do you have outside of that? OdinofPergo is scum. Let's get him. Why all the resistance? What has he done this game to convince you he's town?
Odin hasn't spoken. And the resistance is because you could easily be pushing a ML on a possible role. Or even if he's vanilla town it's still a mislynch.
Like I said, I would rather lynch him based off his play. He hasn't spoken yet, but im willing to give him a chance. If he doesn't prove anything, I wouldn't be opposed to lynching him.
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