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Steveling
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Greece10806 Posts
May 23 2014 22:46 GMT
#3381
I wish my role said if I had being shot but unf it doesn't.
Shit's tough though and our vigs prolly shot town, lmao.
So I'll keep gulping down my Draughts for the 3 following nights.
My dick has shrunk to the point where it looks like I have 3 balls.
geript
Profile Joined February 2013
10024 Posts
May 23 2014 22:46 GMT
#3382
Yah. Marv found it interesting too. Fwiw Hapa, I'm not as sold on tambo. I get the read on him, but it feels a lot like the case from my game (NANG mini). It's a free push for scum to make especially considering how often people want to kill him contrasted with how little analysis there is on him.
mtamburini
Profile Joined February 2014
Canada506 Posts
May 23 2014 22:47 GMT
#3383
On May 24 2014 07:38 Xatalos wrote:
mtamburini: You've been here today and commented on some stuff. Could you actually scumhunt or something in that direction? Have you even caught up with the thread yet?


Just trying to understand the conversations that are going on right now, not sure what to make of it. Have not caught up yet but working on it. I plan to be caught up sometime tomorrow evening around the 24 hours mark I need to go to sleep in a couple hours I have work early tomorrow morning.

With this being only an allignemnt flip game Im having trouble taking into consideration why certain people die over others (IE softing roles for example) All I can base the town kills off of are the scum thought they were the most towny people playing or if a town role decided to shoot them because they thought they were scummy. As far as I know no one has claimed any shots just yet so Im going to assume Scum have a Kp of 3 so there might be only one non town aligned factioned that is non threatening.

With regards to the koshi death the same logic applies with the town people dying, did another faction think they were acting really town and shot him or did a town PR shoot him thinking he was scummy.

Its hard to me do decipher information by the way the posts are being written, it seems like someone is writing up minutes to a meeting of what each person said. Its feel like were all conversing at a round table and there is bickering back and forth between parties. Almost like video mafia except I cant get any body reads of facial reactions from anyone.
layabout
Profile Blog Joined November 2011
United Kingdom2600 Posts
May 23 2014 22:47 GMT
#3384
hapa that was i was saying!!

the alakaslam thing is funny but bh had told us enough for anyone to work out and mafia always have the upper hand when working out role shit compared to vt's.

So with that said since i wasn't explicit geript is lying about being a vig, not sure if it makes him mafia dun wanna filter him.
Be the Best You Can Be ! Play MAFIA II http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/mafia/ II Dragonsound Best Band
Steveling
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Greece10806 Posts
May 23 2014 22:47 GMT
#3385
Layabout since you are here, care to explain your "I want him to be shot" post about me?
My dick has shrunk to the point where it looks like I have 3 balls.
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
May 23 2014 22:48 GMT
#3386
we need to stop with the "scumtell in this setup" crap. it's so silly.

i'll be annoyed if ritoky is mafia, then i'll have to admit austin got it right :<
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
layabout
Profile Blog Joined November 2011
United Kingdom2600 Posts
May 23 2014 22:49 GMT
#3387
On May 24 2014 07:47 mtamburini wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 24 2014 07:38 Xatalos wrote:
mtamburini: You've been here today and commented on some stuff. Could you actually scumhunt or something in that direction? Have you even caught up with the thread yet?


Just trying to understand the conversations that are going on right now, not sure what to make of it. Have not caught up yet but working on it. I plan to be caught up sometime tomorrow evening around the 24 hours mark I need to go to sleep in a couple hours I have work early tomorrow morning.

With this being only an allignemnt flip game Im having trouble taking into consideration why certain people die over others (IE softing roles for example) All I can base the town kills off of are the scum thought they were the most towny people playing or if a town role decided to shoot them because they thought they were scummy. As far as I know no one has claimed any shots just yet so Im going to assume Scum have a Kp of 3 so there might be only one non town aligned factioned that is non threatening.

With regards to the koshi death the same logic applies with the town people dying, did another faction think they were acting really town and shot him or did a town PR shoot him thinking he was scummy.

Its hard to me do decipher information by the way the posts are being written, it seems like someone is writing up minutes to a meeting of what each person said. Its feel like were all conversing at a round table and there is bickering back and forth between parties. Almost like video mafia except I cant get any body reads of facial reactions from anyone.

From the sounds of it you have been around, you have managed to play games before why can't you put your time in now? Is it really that hard to play as scum for you?
Be the Best You Can Be ! Play MAFIA II http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/mafia/ II Dragonsound Best Band
Tehpoofter
Profile Joined October 2013
United States2911 Posts
May 23 2014 22:51 GMT
#3388
So I'm behind. + Show Spoiler +
I bought Civ 5 on Wed and haven't seen sunlight until I had to work tonight.
On Page 86 catching up at work. I'll try to keep the front page refreshed while tab reading the other.

Anyone have some cliffs on what has been going on? I read the relevant posts on deaths did we really do a RNG lynch on Odin? + Show Spoiler +
Only good part is now I can just link this game if donkey BH or anyone else requests it in the future.
Night deaths were weird from where I was when I left the thread (around page 80) Koshi seemed town but I guess third party so thats good assuming he didn't win with town. BKQ was a mafia read and MZ I had as town anyone claim a shot on any of them?
ritoky
Profile Joined March 2011
United States6851 Posts
May 23 2014 22:52 GMT
#3389
On May 24 2014 07:44 layabout wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 24 2014 07:26 ritoky wrote:
My initial response to reading the night kills:
Koshi - Seemed pretty town last phase to me, there were a few people sheeping him, so I could see how he would be targeted...guess I was wrong about the town part.
BK - Was pretty null for me, but wasn't this guy a veteran smurfing? And didn't a few people take issue with the fact that he wouldn't admit who he was? Could have been a spite kill for that? Otherwise I don't particularly see a justification
MZ - Crap, there goes my top town read.

Going to read everything since the day phase post now.

what kind of approach is this?

Hay guys these are my reads on the people that are already dead! No one needs to know this and there is no real reason to post this as town. It does not do anything to further town goals.

However reading this makes me think that when ritoky wrote it he was thinking primarily about he would look in the thread when he wrote it instead of what he wants. It doesn't seem like a natural reaction. It looks constructed, fake.

Show nested quote +
"MZ - Crap, there goes my top town read."

Now when your town townread dies and you think that, at what part of your post would you put it? Here it reads like a bullet point not a curse! Typically I would expect this kind of comment at the start of a post since it's your immediate thought on seeing the flips.

Ritoky is mafia guys!


Well, I think that everyone should have a response to night kills....I don't see what's wrong about that. I think that you can derive things from who was killed. For example I legitimately think BK was killed out of spite by one of the couple people who took umbridge with him not sharing his alias.

As for my my MZ read, well my filter isn't very long and you can very quickly finding me calling him my top town early on and the justification for it shortly after. Why it was at the bottom, because I went in sequential order of kills.

I think you are just blinded by anger from my vote and reasoning behind my vote yesterday.
“When interest is at variance with conscience, any distinction to make them friends will serve the hollow-hearted.” -Henry Home
Hapahauli
Profile Joined May 2009
United States9305 Posts
May 23 2014 22:53 GMT
#3390
On May 24 2014 07:48 marvellosity wrote:
we need to stop with the "scumtell in this setup" crap. it's so silly.

i'll be annoyed if ritoky is mafia, then i'll have to admit austin got it right :<


Not really. I have a ton of scumreads, and a lot of them are on players I can see as being lynchbait. I'd be a lot more comfortable if I could narrow that down a bit, and establishing what and what isn't a tell in a very unusual setup is pretty important IMO.
a talking rock that sprouts among the waves woosh
mtamburini
Profile Joined February 2014
Canada506 Posts
May 23 2014 22:53 GMT
#3391
On May 24 2014 07:49 layabout wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 24 2014 07:47 mtamburini wrote:
On May 24 2014 07:38 Xatalos wrote:
mtamburini: You've been here today and commented on some stuff. Could you actually scumhunt or something in that direction? Have you even caught up with the thread yet?


Just trying to understand the conversations that are going on right now, not sure what to make of it. Have not caught up yet but working on it. I plan to be caught up sometime tomorrow evening around the 24 hours mark I need to go to sleep in a couple hours I have work early tomorrow morning.

With this being only an allignemnt flip game Im having trouble taking into consideration why certain people die over others (IE softing roles for example) All I can base the town kills off of are the scum thought they were the most towny people playing or if a town role decided to shoot them because they thought they were scummy. As far as I know no one has claimed any shots just yet so Im going to assume Scum have a Kp of 3 so there might be only one non town aligned factioned that is non threatening.

With regards to the koshi death the same logic applies with the town people dying, did another faction think they were acting really town and shot him or did a town PR shoot him thinking he was scummy.

Its hard to me do decipher information by the way the posts are being written, it seems like someone is writing up minutes to a meeting of what each person said. Its feel like were all conversing at a round table and there is bickering back and forth between parties. Almost like video mafia except I cant get any body reads of facial reactions from anyone.

From the sounds of it you have been around, you have managed to play games before why can't you put your time in now? Is it really that hard to play as scum for you?


Schools out and I work 60 hours a week during the summer time, the smaller games are easier to catch up on then this game. I was not anticipating the large amounts of posts.

Nice try and throwing in a BS shot at the end there only makes you look worse IMO.

Xatalos
Profile Joined January 2011
Finland9675 Posts
May 23 2014 22:54 GMT
#3392
On May 24 2014 07:47 mtamburini wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 24 2014 07:38 Xatalos wrote:
mtamburini: You've been here today and commented on some stuff. Could you actually scumhunt or something in that direction? Have you even caught up with the thread yet?


Just trying to understand the conversations that are going on right now, not sure what to make of it. Have not caught up yet but working on it. I plan to be caught up sometime tomorrow evening around the 24 hours mark I need to go to sleep in a couple hours I have work early tomorrow morning.

With this being only an allignemnt flip game Im having trouble taking into consideration why certain people die over others (IE softing roles for example) All I can base the town kills off of are the scum thought they were the most towny people playing or if a town role decided to shoot them because they thought they were scummy. As far as I know no one has claimed any shots just yet so Im going to assume Scum have a Kp of 3 so there might be only one non town aligned factioned that is non threatening.

With regards to the koshi death the same logic applies with the town people dying, did another faction think they were acting really town and shot him or did a town PR shoot him thinking he was scummy.

Its hard to me do decipher information by the way the posts are being written, it seems like someone is writing up minutes to a meeting of what each person said. Its feel like were all conversing at a round table and there is bickering back and forth between parties. Almost like video mafia except I cant get any body reads of facial reactions from anyone.


You should make catching up and forming reads your top priority. It's not very constructive to read the latest pages and just make vague comments.
"The opportunity to secure ourselves against defeat lies in our own hands, but the opportunity of defeating the enemy is provided by the enemy himself." - Sun Tzu
Hapahauli
Profile Joined May 2009
United States9305 Posts
May 23 2014 22:54 GMT
#3393
Ritoky, can you explain your read progression on tambo?
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/mafia/440546-golden-sun-the-lost-age-mafia-djinn-edition?page=169#3377
a talking rock that sprouts among the waves woosh
mtamburini
Profile Joined February 2014
Canada506 Posts
May 23 2014 22:56 GMT
#3394
On May 24 2014 07:51 Tehpoofter wrote:
So I'm behind. + Show Spoiler +
I bought Civ 5 on Wed and haven't seen sunlight until I had to work tonight.
On Page 86 catching up at work. I'll try to keep the front page refreshed while tab reading the other.

Anyone have some cliffs on what has been going on? I read the relevant posts on deaths did we really do a RNG lynch on Odin? + Show Spoiler +
Only good part is now I can just link this game if donkey BH or anyone else requests it in the future.
Night deaths were weird from where I was when I left the thread (around page 80) Koshi seemed town but I guess third party so thats good assuming he didn't win with town. BKQ was a mafia read and MZ I had as town anyone claim a shot on any of them?


Im like 80% going to buy that game and its killing me inside because I need the money for school LOL. But it reminds me of my AOE 3 days but more complicated and interesting which I like. When Ill have the time to sit down for 5+ hours though beats me.
geript
Profile Joined February 2013
10024 Posts
May 23 2014 22:57 GMT
#3395
On May 24 2014 07:47 layabout wrote:
hapa that was i was saying!!

the alakaslam thing is funny but bh had told us enough for anyone to work out and mafia always have the upper hand when working out role shit compared to vt's.

So with that said since i wasn't explicit geript is lying about being a vig, not sure if it makes him mafia dun wanna filter him.

Look laya, put yourself in my shoes. Pretend that you're a vig, have had a pretty terrible D1 despite being obv town and are short on time. I'm rarely shot N1; hell I'm rarely shot N2. I have far more to gain by holding my shot. I could've shot a lurker like Meat, a mostly inactive like Onegu/OK, etc. But odds are that I have time to hold my shot in a game with like Koshi/Marv/BH/Hapa/Kita/Fool/etc. Especially wwhen I've been playing awfully and am likely to make an awful shot like say BH, Slam or Scumeling because of how biased I've been. It's just better play to wait in my position. In most positions in a large game like this it's a good idea to wait a few cycles. Keep on this train if you want but it's just a dead end.
mtamburini
Profile Joined February 2014
Canada506 Posts
May 23 2014 22:57 GMT
#3396
On May 24 2014 07:54 Xatalos wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 24 2014 07:47 mtamburini wrote:
On May 24 2014 07:38 Xatalos wrote:
mtamburini: You've been here today and commented on some stuff. Could you actually scumhunt or something in that direction? Have you even caught up with the thread yet?


Just trying to understand the conversations that are going on right now, not sure what to make of it. Have not caught up yet but working on it. I plan to be caught up sometime tomorrow evening around the 24 hours mark I need to go to sleep in a couple hours I have work early tomorrow morning.

With this being only an allignemnt flip game Im having trouble taking into consideration why certain people die over others (IE softing roles for example) All I can base the town kills off of are the scum thought they were the most towny people playing or if a town role decided to shoot them because they thought they were scummy. As far as I know no one has claimed any shots just yet so Im going to assume Scum have a Kp of 3 so there might be only one non town aligned factioned that is non threatening.

With regards to the koshi death the same logic applies with the town people dying, did another faction think they were acting really town and shot him or did a town PR shoot him thinking he was scummy.

Its hard to me do decipher information by the way the posts are being written, it seems like someone is writing up minutes to a meeting of what each person said. Its feel like were all conversing at a round table and there is bickering back and forth between parties. Almost like video mafia except I cant get any body reads of facial reactions from anyone.


You should make catching up and forming reads your top priority. It's not very constructive to read the latest pages and just make vague comments.


I appreciate the help and advice you are giving me, unfortunately the last time I remember getting spoonfed like this I ended up in the pocket of scum
layabout
Profile Blog Joined November 2011
United Kingdom2600 Posts
May 23 2014 22:58 GMT
#3397
On May 24 2014 07:47 Steveling wrote:
Layabout since you are here, care to explain your "I want him to be shot" post about me?

19 pages of posts in 1 cycle and way too much is noise, as mafia i wouldn't even consider shooting you yet because the volume of posting by you and that you have directly triggered is making the game intimidating/a pain in the ass depending on what kind of person you are. You HAVE to be more concise or we should probably kill you. Continuing to post that way is super anti town.

I remember spending 12 hours a day on a game and it having a pretty negative effect on me, i was posting a ton and they were long posts but i only managed 13 or so pages in all. I don't know how you are doing it, it seems a tad insane to me.

+ Show Spoiler +
as in i can't grasp it, i am not calling you a nutter
Be the Best You Can Be ! Play MAFIA II http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/mafia/ II Dragonsound Best Band
Tehpoofter
Profile Joined October 2013
United States2911 Posts
May 23 2014 23:00 GMT
#3398
On May 24 2014 07:56 mtamburini wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 24 2014 07:51 Tehpoofter wrote:
So I'm behind. + Show Spoiler +
I bought Civ 5 on Wed and haven't seen sunlight until I had to work tonight.
On Page 86 catching up at work. I'll try to keep the front page refreshed while tab reading the other.

Anyone have some cliffs on what has been going on? I read the relevant posts on deaths did we really do a RNG lynch on Odin? + Show Spoiler +
Only good part is now I can just link this game if donkey BH or anyone else requests it in the future.
Night deaths were weird from where I was when I left the thread (around page 80) Koshi seemed town but I guess third party so thats good assuming he didn't win with town. BKQ was a mafia read and MZ I had as town anyone claim a shot on any of them?


Im like 80% going to buy that game and its killing me inside because I need the money for school LOL. But it reminds me of my AOE 3 days but more complicated and interesting which I like. When Ill have the time to sit down for 5+ hours though beats me.


You won't need the money for school because you'll forget you need to go. Also Girls don't play video games so not sure why you would buy it.


Who should I focus on in your opinion tambo? Who is the scum?
layabout
Profile Blog Joined November 2011
United Kingdom2600 Posts
May 23 2014 23:00 GMT
#3399
On May 24 2014 07:57 geript wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 24 2014 07:47 layabout wrote:
hapa that was i was saying!!

the alakaslam thing is funny but bh had told us enough for anyone to work out and mafia always have the upper hand when working out role shit compared to vt's.

So with that said since i wasn't explicit geript is lying about being a vig, not sure if it makes him mafia dun wanna filter him.

Look laya, put yourself in my shoes. Pretend that you're a vig, have had a pretty terrible D1 despite being obv town and are short on time. I'm rarely shot N1; hell I'm rarely shot N2. I have far more to gain by holding my shot. I could've shot a lurker like Meat, a mostly inactive like Onegu/OK, etc. But odds are that I have time to hold my shot in a game with like Koshi/Marv/BH/Hapa/Kita/Fool/etc. Especially wwhen I've been playing awfully and am likely to make an awful shot like say BH, Slam or Scumeling because of how biased I've been. It's just better play to wait in my position. In most positions in a large game like this it's a good idea to wait a few cycles. Keep on this train if you want but it's just a dead end.

This is not the perspective of a town vigilante. Nobody buy this.
Be the Best You Can Be ! Play MAFIA II http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/mafia/ II Dragonsound Best Band
Xatalos
Profile Joined January 2011
Finland9675 Posts
May 23 2014 23:02 GMT
#3400
On May 24 2014 07:57 mtamburini wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 24 2014 07:54 Xatalos wrote:
On May 24 2014 07:47 mtamburini wrote:
On May 24 2014 07:38 Xatalos wrote:
mtamburini: You've been here today and commented on some stuff. Could you actually scumhunt or something in that direction? Have you even caught up with the thread yet?


Just trying to understand the conversations that are going on right now, not sure what to make of it. Have not caught up yet but working on it. I plan to be caught up sometime tomorrow evening around the 24 hours mark I need to go to sleep in a couple hours I have work early tomorrow morning.

With this being only an allignemnt flip game Im having trouble taking into consideration why certain people die over others (IE softing roles for example) All I can base the town kills off of are the scum thought they were the most towny people playing or if a town role decided to shoot them because they thought they were scummy. As far as I know no one has claimed any shots just yet so Im going to assume Scum have a Kp of 3 so there might be only one non town aligned factioned that is non threatening.

With regards to the koshi death the same logic applies with the town people dying, did another faction think they were acting really town and shot him or did a town PR shoot him thinking he was scummy.

Its hard to me do decipher information by the way the posts are being written, it seems like someone is writing up minutes to a meeting of what each person said. Its feel like were all conversing at a round table and there is bickering back and forth between parties. Almost like video mafia except I cant get any body reads of facial reactions from anyone.


You should make catching up and forming reads your top priority. It's not very constructive to read the latest pages and just make vague comments.


I appreciate the help and advice you are giving me, unfortunately the last time I remember getting spoonfed like this I ended up in the pocket of scum


I can assure you I'm not scum. Now gogo read stuff
"The opportunity to secure ourselves against defeat lies in our own hands, but the opportunity of defeating the enemy is provided by the enemy himself." - Sun Tzu
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