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On May 25 2014 14:37 Holyflare wrote: Yup. Again, not the mafia, and I win if I have between a certain amount of people in my faction and the other faction is dead at endgame.No way we let you live to recruit? :o | ||
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On May 25 2014 14:39 Holyflare wrote: Whoever wins does.Yeh but then town doesn't? :o If that other faction wins, I lose. If ANYONE wins and I don't have the right number of people in my faction, we lose. I don't know what the other wincons are, but if all other non-town factions are dead AND I've got a decent number, then we should both win. If one of the two factions I don't need gone has some wincon that's opposed to town but not opposed to me, should be able to win with them as well, under the same circumstances. | ||
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On May 25 2014 14:40 Holyflare wrote: I don't want to answer this one at this time, #mindgamesDo people keep powers when recruited? Or just become goons? | ||
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IF there were other recruiters and IF they work in the same fashion, BH/slam couldn't have recruited each other or anything before the start of D2 basically, so one wouldn't have known about the other or anything. | ||
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On May 25 2014 14:53 Holyflare wrote: That would be just peachy, but I have. It's a closed setup for me as well.Austin if you want to stay alive you really need to just reveal everything about what factions and recruiting does, you can leave out faction name etc The couple things I've not revealed would out me and I'm unsure whether the faction I need gone to win also needs me gone to win, and whether they can effectively do that. And tbh, some of the stuff I've revealed might NOT be true. I know that my faction recruits and doesn't control, but I guess i TECHNICALLY don't know that one of the other factions doesn't control people. I believe that's not the case, and if "control" is something more like "attach a djinn to someone" then that's how I recruit, so it SHOULD be recruiting mechanic and not recruiting + control or something. On May 25 2014 15:03 kushm4sta wrote: Negatory, not red.steveling why not the person we have a [s]red[s/]not green check on? | ||
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On May 25 2014 15:32 kushm4sta wrote: Not defend your stupid face.austin if you were red in this scenario, what would you do? On May 25 2014 17:10 Blazinghand wrote: HF, so that everyone, including the Good Sir of Blazing, understands, did you get a GUILTY result or a thing that says THIS BRO MAFIA or even a RED check. Color kinda important to me here, but I don't think you got a color back?holyflare claimed a guilty result on austinmcc On May 25 2014 18:03 geript wrote: Austin... Why didn't you recruit me? You make me so sad. I had a townread on you to. Fucking ABBA. I hope I get recruited. I really want to be 3P at some point. see below On May 25 2014 19:47 Xatalos wrote: austinmcc: There are some things that I'd like to know before I decide if I want to lynch you or not. 1) You were in Koshi's faction? 2) Did you "recruit" anyone yet? 3) What does "recruiting" actually do? Does the target become non-town? 4) What's the specific flavor on "recruiting" someone? Is it something like "being controlled by a Djinn"? 5) If so, I have reason to believe that this state of being controlled is temporary. That's why I have difficulty believing that it works like you said. If you make your target share your QT and stuff, won't he just reveal everything if he goes back to normal? 6) Do you have KP? 7) If so, who did you shoot last night? (1) Already answered, no. (2) Yes. (3) Depends. (4) My flavor says nothing about control. (5) Not temporary, except I guess death. (6) In a way (7) In a way (Also, my recruiting CANNOT be temporary, because recruited dudes get QT access. I can't give someone QT access, then have them disappear and go tell everyone who's there) On May 25 2014 23:39 kitaman27 wrote: I make my fake claims fun or ... less recruiter-y. Also, whether it makes sense or not, it's here. If nothing else, it would APPEAR that there are other roles that mention control or recruiting or SOMETHING, so you KNOW that non-standard mechanics exist.If I had to guess, austin is just fake claiming recruiter to make us paranoid about any obvious townies. He was caught and had nothing to lose. A recruiter mechanic doesn't make sense in this setup. Suppose his faction recruits a member from a mafia faction. Then they would have the complete scum list for that team. Think of how fast the game would fall apart that way. It doesn't work. Couple other posts coming to clear up some stuff and look at my voters | ||
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Each night I can attach a fire djinn to someone. That djinn burns away the role that the person has and adds a new one (I have a set number of djinn, in my head they're pokemon, and each has a certain ability. I give the person that djinn, their old role is gone, they now have the role of the attached djinn). If I target a townie, the townie is recruited and joins me. Their old role gone, new role in place. Not a control thing, and not temporary. If I target a scummer, I burn away any role they had, lose my pokemans, and DO NOT recruit. Yes, it would be way unbalanced if I could recruit mafia, change their wincon. However, fire is a bit unstable, and so IF I choose to add someone, I also burn a random person for 1 KP. So i HAVE KP, and I could pledge, for the most part, not to use it (i have to recruit more to have a shot at winning, but could hold off for a while or something), but I cannot target anyone in particular. Anyway, I can target a recruit, and if I use it the random KP hits, but I cannot target the KP. Anyway, it looks like all the kill is flavored. My shot hit the smurf last night. Some of my posts from earlier this cycle are smurf-guy-focused, I know that peruvian had a sandro read on it and whatnot, but I'm the one who killed it. Anyway, you should be able to see that I talk more about the smurf kill than the others, it was mine, but no, I'm not actually suspicious of other folks for that kill, the peruvian is suspicious for his own crap. | ||
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Also, as far as winning goes, I need the other faction dead. I need endgame. And I need to have 3-5 people recruited. Any less and our fire isn't strong enough. Any more and our fire is burning too hot. So I don't need to add people every night, but I gots to be allowed to get at least one more recruit in, then can go scumhunting with the recruit OR just scumhunt with text. | ||
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On May 26 2014 01:22 marvellosity wrote: OF COURSE. YOU FIENDISH FIENDand you were really having a go at me for killing the smurf hydra? tut tut austin. On May 26 2014 01:24 Valenius wrote: Does it mention if the random 1kp fires if you fail to recruit a scum? If I USE a fire djinn, the KP happens. So as long as I send in a recruit action, there's a KP action. I'ts not an equal and opposite thing, but essentially, if I send a fire djinn to recruit someone, someone gets burnt. Also, fire bros are immune from that burning. Keeps me from getting LOL RNGed on N1 when I try to recruit. | ||
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austinmcc (8): Holyflare, kushm4sta, That Elderly Heterosexual Peruvian, Blazinghand, Cephiro, geript, ritoky, layabout, Yell0w And then kita, bluey, onceking, erandorr HF town. Kush is being an idiot and I don't want to be wrong about him and if he's actually town then maybe I'm right about Foolishness too. So it's a bit biased, but i THINK town. peruvian basically non-responded to HF's claim and all this stuff. Not good. peruvian can be lazy all he wants but SHIT THAT IS INTERESTING IS HAPPENING. I can understand him being lazy, although it also sorta smells like not wanting to make a target of himself early when lots of KP is in play, but.........he should be getting interested in stuff. Reads kinda ... too safe? Drop out, see what happens with the claim and the responses and whatnot. BH is likely town but also a liar On May 25 2014 17:10 Blazinghand wrote: Survey says..............this is false.holyflare claimed a guilty result on austinmcc Ceph comes out of the woodwork after like a 4 day absence. Says he's trying to skim, gives no thoughts, votes me. Wish nobody had said anything so that we could see what he did later. Here's the thing, I think cephiro is TOWN, or less likely, a ONE-PERSON FACTION. Everyone and their mother is returning to thread to vote me. Ceph returns to thread and ASKS TO BE READ INTO WHAT'S GOING ON. That means it's UNLIKELY he has a QT, because every scum QT says "Oi gents, care for a spot of tea? We're in tip top shape on the nonce, for we can all take the piss out of the thread wot wot and vote austinmcc, saying he's a right cad." ***HEY DON'T FORGET THIS IF I DIE GO LOOK AT IT AND LOOK AT IT AGAIN BECAUSE IT MAKES SENSE. WHY DOES MAFIA ASK FOR A TARGET NOW, MAFIA IS SMILING FROM EAR TO EAR RIGHT NOW AND WILL BE OVER-QUICK TO VOTE ME*** geript shouldn't be voting me. If nothing else, he should be trying to save me and secretly hoping I'll recruit him into the ABBA goodness. I DO like that he immediately thought of that, why wasn't he recruited, but it's not an alignment-indicative thing. Don't like the entirely unexplained vote though, but again, similar to cephiro, mafia is smiling their asses off, and i think will....be too quick to explain a little, to say why they're voting, and wont' just drop a ninja vote. ritoky i liked the posts of and i'm getting lazy because there are too many voters on me to do what I wanted to do and really look for scum votes/town votes. Because he's townie imo, I'll just call his vote a town vote. layabout ignores the check for a while, and instead is focused on other people, and also talks with xatalos a tiny bit about what's going on. I like that. Townvotepile. On May 25 2014 21:41 Yell0w wrote: Asks no question. Interacts none. Poof I'm here, I'll say something about austinmcc, go away again. i THINK yellow is town, but his VOTE is scummy. This is sorta what I'm looking for in terms of scummy votes, right? People who appear out of nowhere, have NO thoughts on the thread but that I need lynching, and then poof. Of minor note is his concern that I RECRUIT. He doesn't say I'm lolmafia, or that I have to die because I have a redcheck or anything, he's concerned about something that probably should be concerning. That's a minor +Yup, so I'm just going to agree we have to lynch him because he can recruit people in his faction. ##vote: austinmcc watch kita closely. He knows I'm not an idiot. But he claims both that "leaving a claimed recruiter alive is a no-no" AND that I'm fakeclaiming recruiter. If I were trying to fakeclaim, I wouldn't fakeclaim something that, in Kita's mind, gets you KILLED FOREVER ALWAYS. He essentially thinks I'm claiming something super dangerous, when every friggin scum that gets caught and claims 3P always goes for survivor or something innocent. They don't say they MIGHT be taking your wives and children (or husbands), and they don't say they, ummmm, rando KP sometimes. Mafia don't fakeclaim things that town still want to lynch ---> it's not a fakeclaim. Kita not thinking it through enough. (Filter also kinda worryingly tiny) Bluey's vote is lazy. I believe HF's claim ---> lynch austinmcc. Says NOTHING about whether he believes me. Says nothing about why I should be the lynch. Again, this ain't a red check. It's a not-town check. Cuz I'm not-town, but also BLUE. THE FIRE IS BLUE. BLUEY I AM YOUR COLOR. THIS SHOULD MATTER TO YOU? UNVOTE ME! OnceKing is, I THINK, the only person who voted me and kept talking about other people. Muy bueno. Discussion shouldn't stop just because of the check, and he's the only person I saw that was down to vote me BUT STILL TRY AND DO OTHER STUFF. Huzzah. I don't love Erandorr's vote. His is one of the more...wishy washyish? Why would scumaustin give that info --> look at how scum votes are flocking to austin (with no specifics) ---> we still need to kill austin ---> it would be funny to leave him alive. I AGREE that scum votes are gonna pop up on me. But it's a good idea to find em rather than just mentioning it. Everyone in this game can look at the votes on me right now, be super sure there's SOME scum there, and see what votes look wonky. | ||
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On May 26 2014 01:30 Holyflare wrote: Let's just say that D1 there was a QT full of all caps rantings and someone talking to himself. (just 1)how many ppl did your faction start with? 1? | ||
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Would also suggest that SOMEONE look into who has played with me in recent games where I was mafia. I have been...not a good mafia lately, had the turbolurk setting to maximum. SOMEONE should have brought this up, imo, and it should be a slight negative against anyone in those games. If they're voting me AND know that I've been cray cray lurky as scum recently, they probably should have expressed some minor misgivings. | ||
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On May 26 2014 02:02 kitaman27 wrote: No thanks. I need to reach endgame, or at least get 3-5 people to endgame so I need to reach...after now.You need to reach endgame right? So you would do anything to live I would assume? Claim your recruit. Thanks  But I can't win so long as another faction is around. If they have to eliminate MY faction, I don't want to give them a happy list and let them tick off a victory condition. | ||
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On May 26 2014 02:02 BlueyD wrote: Yes. It can hit anyone, will do 1 KP to people who aren't fire djinn/me.Can the random kp land on scum? | ||
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