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Giggletummy
Profile Joined April 2013
Pitcairn200 Posts
January 10 2014 22:58 GMT
#342
GG, how do you feel about the filters that HF posted?

How do you feel about the rest of derrida's filter, other than the couple posts you mentioned in your initial vote. Pull some specific things if you would.
Giggletummy
Profile Joined April 2013
Pitcairn200 Posts
January 10 2014 23:07 GMT
#344
Don't want to vote you.
Giggletummy
Profile Joined April 2013
Pitcairn200 Posts
January 10 2014 23:10 GMT
#345
Specifically, I do think you've drawn some associations between players. You certainly have, in looking at who mocsta did or didn't respond to. Grabbing derrida's other game makes you look good though, and I agree with your statements that the two filters look different. That act alone is more than enough to make you a poor D1 lynch candidate in my opinion.
Giggletummy
Profile Joined April 2013
Pitcairn200 Posts
January 10 2014 23:22 GMT
#346
I'd like to see more from GG before I respond further just this moment.
Giggletummy
Profile Joined April 2013
Pitcairn200 Posts
January 10 2014 23:39 GMT
#348
On January 11 2014 08:35 Holyflare wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 11 2014 08:10 Giggletummy wrote:
Specifically, I do think you've drawn some associations between players. You certainly have, in looking at who mocsta did or didn't respond to. Grabbing derrida's other game makes you look good though, and I agree with your statements that the two filters look different. That act alone is more than enough to make you a poor D1 lynch candidate in my opinion.


Are you trying to portray my "associative tells" as bad because acting differently to a certain person is definitely substantial compared to derrida who drew associative tells based on.....? Yes, absolutely nothing. Yet you jumped on ME for that instead of him. Why is that? Why have you still failed to address anything that has happened surrounding derrida's almost lynch, his scummyness of his first posts to some people or his play thus far. All you have done is pretty much +1 what i've been saying now.
I don't care about anyone else's drawing of associative tells because I don't care about associative tells in a vacuum.

I care that you make associations between mocsta and others while saying not to draw associative tells.
Giggletummy
Profile Joined April 2013
Pitcairn200 Posts
January 10 2014 23:54 GMT
#351
On January 11 2014 08:44 Holyflare wrote:
I think you're confusing linking 2 players together as an association of alignment with linking 2 people together based on suspicious behaviour. I drawn no conclusions of alignment from mocsta's choice of person to change his style on whereas derrida does based on interaction of unflipped players.
Again, don't care why anyone is drawing associations, on what grounds, for the purposes of my comment on you. Only that you say not to while doing so.
Giggletummy
Profile Joined April 2013
Pitcairn200 Posts
January 11 2014 00:12 GMT
#353
On January 11 2014 09:07 GGTeMpLaR wrote:
You just keep asking me questions about my reads without giving any of yours, and when you do critique my posts, you don't even get the context right of the arguments you use against me. When corrected by me pointing out the context, you ignore my counter-arguments and ask me more questions.
My dear gg, it is difficult to ask you anything other than question. I cannot very well ask you platypi, or ask you trees. No no, that won't do. I'm afraid I'll stick to asking questions.

Did you read derrida's filter from his newbie game?
Giggletummy
Profile Joined April 2013
Pitcairn200 Posts
January 11 2014 00:17 GMT
#355
That should be questions, or "a question", "a platypus", and "a tree"
Giggletummy
Profile Joined April 2013
Pitcairn200 Posts
January 11 2014 00:20 GMT
#357
On January 11 2014 09:17 GGTeMpLaR wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 11 2014 09:12 Giggletummy wrote:
On January 11 2014 09:07 GGTeMpLaR wrote:
You just keep asking me questions about my reads without giving any of yours, and when you do critique my posts, you don't even get the context right of the arguments you use against me. When corrected by me pointing out the context, you ignore my counter-arguments and ask me more questions.
My dear gg, it is difficult to ask you anything other than question. I cannot very well ask you platypi, or ask you trees. No no, that won't do. I'm afraid I'll stick to asking questions.

Did you read derrida's filter from his newbie game?


What are your thoughts on whether or not I read derrida's filter from his newbie game? How would a "yes" answer from me lead you to read me compared to a "no" answer from me?

And more importantly, how is this relevant to your read on Mocsta/Artanis?

Gotta give short answer for a moment. You were scummy on derrida. HF posted his stuff. You said you hadn't looked at past games. You told someone else, when asked, that you would look at them.

You never commented on them. You came back today, and were still calling him scummy. So there's something relevant to everyone else in derrida's filters that you are either disregarding for no reason, or refusing to look at. When this guy is a scumread of yours.


Giggletummy
Profile Joined April 2013
Pitcairn200 Posts
January 11 2014 01:04 GMT
#360
Apart from newbie ... 49 or whatever that one is, do you have any other recent/recent-ish games?
Giggletummy
Profile Joined April 2013
Pitcairn200 Posts
January 11 2014 01:20 GMT
#362
On January 11 2014 10:04 Giggletummy wrote:
Apart from newbie ... 49 or whatever that one is, do you have any other recent/recent-ish games?

Disregard this q, there aren't any others.

HF, reading your stuff and then will comment in a sec.
Giggletummy
Profile Joined April 2013
Pitcairn200 Posts
January 11 2014 01:44 GMT
#363
Mocsta has played enough town games that I'd like to look through more than just the one, but noted. Second point I don't care about, because following up on a suspicion or pointing out broken promises often a townie thing to do, shows he's staying with his read, knows what Derrida has been saying, and is trying to get more out of Derrida. Voice mafia stuff or IML stuff I can't comment on.
Giggletummy
Profile Joined April 2013
Pitcairn200 Posts
January 11 2014 03:25 GMT
#367
On January 11 2014 12:02 Holyflare wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 11 2014 10:44 Giggletummy wrote:
Mocsta has played enough town games that I'd like to look through more than just the one, but noted. Second point I don't care about, because following up on a suspicion or pointing out broken promises often a townie thing to do, shows he's staying with his read, knows what Derrida has been saying, and is trying to get more out of Derrida. Voice mafia stuff or IML stuff I can't comment on.


So your conclusion....?
Mocsta made a couple posts when I commented on derrida being x-1, not knowing that derrida was x-1. Either he was pulling our legs and is, indeed, a very naughty Mocsta, or he really didn't know where voting stood. Scum should be following voting? So should town! But his multiple posts on the vote count look townie.

He is not my comrade, but if he were my comrade, I would think "that is my comrade." Perhaps if we were on a boat, it would be more clear? All is clear when on a boat. Yes. Yes yes.

His town games are much more involved, this is true. His scum games are also more involved. Also, some of his posts in this Newbie make me giggle.

The vote count stuff is meh. Him not posting much is meh because it doesn't fit either alignment of mocsta from what I've read. Him following up on Derrida looks town to me.

I'd much prefer to vote rayn >_>

He's quiet for a rayn. He's unopinionated for a rayn. Reads derrida's other game, scum game, and finds different mindset. Calls GG mafia, doesn't ever bother to give GG the same treatment (GG has one past game, was mafia). Then calls GG town because GG wouldn't be tunneled in on derrida as mafia, but doesn't give mocsta the same treatment (mocsta's filter, to me, reads relatively tunneled in on derrida, despite whatever anyone else posts). I find his filter very fluffy, but don't remember rayn being a fluff guy. Then he spends a bunch of time 8-9 hours ago farting around with me, but mostly just farting. He's commenting on my stuff, but not really doing anything else (check his last page of filter, lots of banter with me but it's just banter, he's never calling me scum, or looking at anyone else's posts really, he's just in the thread and chatting but never moving anywhere).

He treats (derrida/gg) and (gg/mocsta) inconsistently, imo. He posts a lot of useless troll/fluff posts, and then recently just posts a bunch of rudderless stuff. His read/vote on GG is lacking, as I already pointed out it's just two minor points repeated, then he jumps to two of (mocsta/artanis/myself), while, imo, not bothering to try and read artanis's posts and bantering with me but never really developing anything more solid.
Giggletummy
Profile Joined April 2013
Pitcairn200 Posts
January 11 2014 03:30 GMT
#368
@HF

While you say rayn was "doing the most" in the game 10 hours ago or something, and most of his filter isn't spam, I disagree on those things. The entirety of page 1 of his filter is fluff. All the pretty stuff is fluff. That's a good half his filter.

And while you say he's eliminating town reads and finding scum reads, he's really just saying these people might be scum. He votes mocsta, then artanis, then banters with me and left the thread for a while after basically indicating I was doing something scummy. But rayn is a posty and a pushy dude. He's not posting or pushing any of those three. He's just sitting back with a list and he's content with that. From what I have read and been told, rayn is normally spammy and would be making cases on all 3 people in his list, plus a stray cat he found (definitely mafia), and maybe 1-2 of his town reads, just because. Is this not the case?
Giggletummy
Profile Joined April 2013
Pitcairn200 Posts
January 11 2014 03:35 GMT
#370
Why not tonight? You, HF, mocsta probably have a scum or two in there, keep on fighting and let's pick out the scum!
Giggletummy
Profile Joined April 2013
Pitcairn200 Posts
January 11 2014 03:46 GMT
#372
1-1-0-0-1-1-1 what does it mean?

It is lopsided!

Alakaslam, this cannot be! I shall even the vote count for you!

1-1-1-0-1-1-1 is a much nicer looking vote count.

##vote: GGTeMpLaR

That should be sufficient. My mind is currently on rayn, but I don't like to break the symmetry. Interested in all these future promises from mocsta and rayn.
Giggletummy
Profile Joined April 2013
Pitcairn200 Posts
January 11 2014 04:07 GMT
#374
On January 11 2014 12:54 raynpelikoneet wrote:
You don't get to tell me when i do post and when i don't because you failed to answer my pretty clear post where i wanted your read on Artanis and Mocsta. Also if you think i am scum you are bad or scum, so that's another reason why you don't get to tell me what to do.
Confucious say, "He who lynches artanis D1 is high on pot." Or something to that effect. I generally follow a method to Artanis's doggie madness, and that's enough to put him mildly townie for me right now.

Currently pro-mocsta and anti-you/HF, but there's so little to go on that I'd rather you guys just get in the ring and duke it out.

Are you glad that you are not a wrestler? Or, should I say, are you a wrestler? Maybe if you are I have offended you. Maybe I am an offender. Whether you wrestle or not, I am glad we are not rustlers. A rustler must sometimes go into town for a dance, a square dance, and I know not who would lead and who would follow. No. Our rustler dancing would end in sore feet and sore feelings.
Giggletummy
Profile Joined April 2013
Pitcairn200 Posts
January 11 2014 04:28 GMT
#377
Your case/vote was B2B comparison + followup on derrida + voice mafia/IML comments.

I can't prove or disprove the voice mafia/IML comments, but it would be curious for you to lie about that. I disagree with your characterization of following up with derrida saying he'd do something. So I'm left with the B2B comparison to consider. Yes, mocsta's lazier attitude does not make him not scum, but it makes your case look weaker, because you didn't present those thoughts before. You just compared his play to one town game and went with that.
Giggletummy
Profile Joined April 2013
Pitcairn200 Posts
January 11 2014 04:36 GMT
#378
HF have you played many games with rayn?
Giggletummy
Profile Joined April 2013
Pitcairn200 Posts
January 11 2014 04:41 GMT
#381
On January 11 2014 13:37 Derrida wrote:
Guys, Derrida confirmed town, come on. I wish posting screenshots of inbox was not banned.

Aside from that, I am trying to read through the other games you guys played together, which is a stupidly enormous task on its own, it's like playing 3-4 mafia games simultaneously. As I'm the newbie here, could someone summarize me why a player's attitude in previous games matter? I would assume we are all above-average intelligent people here who could take on a new persona in every new game, no?
Even when taking on a new persona, it is difficult to take on a new persona.

It is easy to say you will play differently. It is much more difficult to follow through, or to hold conversations and not slip into whatever your default scum or default town posting style may be. Using past games/interest levels/whatever is more effective with some players than others, but is of >0 value.

Conduct in this game still more important, but past games can shade conduct in this game.
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