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On January 10 2014 17:57 Holyflare wrote:Show nested quote +On January 10 2014 17:55 GGTeMpLaR wrote:
That might work for you but from my perspective the probability is flipped.
Either Mocsta or Artanis bussed him (unlikely) or he's scum with any of You/Giggle/Rayn. You can retrieve scum reads from 8 posts of a filter? I'm am quite seriously impressed. You seem to KNOW that the guy is scum despite me linking an ACTUAL scum game of his from his last newbie game that looks nothing like this one so far.
Two of the posts, especially the one we're discussing right now read very scummy to me. I'm still waiting for his actual response. Right now he is the strongest scum-tell I have.
I haven't actually read through the filter of the last game and compared it to the filter from this one yet. I'm not sure how valuable it will prove with such a low sample size and the fact that people are likely to change their play from game to game, especially during their first few games, so even if it is a different style I'm not willing to clear him based on that fact alone.
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On January 10 2014 18:03 GGTeMpLaR wrote:Show nested quote +On January 10 2014 17:57 Holyflare wrote:On January 10 2014 17:55 GGTeMpLaR wrote:
That might work for you but from my perspective the probability is flipped.
Either Mocsta or Artanis bussed him (unlikely) or he's scum with any of You/Giggle/Rayn. You can retrieve scum reads from 8 posts of a filter? I'm am quite seriously impressed. You seem to KNOW that the guy is scum despite me linking an ACTUAL scum game of his from his last newbie game that looks nothing like this one so far. Two of the posts, especially the one we're discussing right now read very scummy to me. I'm still waiting for his actual response. Right now he is the strongest scum-tell I have. I haven't actually read through the filter of the last game and compared it to the filter from this one yet. I'm not sure how valuable it will prove with such a low sample size and the fact that people are likely to change their play from game to game, especially during their first few games, so even if it is a different style I'm not willing to clear him based on that fact alone.
Are you claiming scum or something? You just admit to having not read his previous game and so haven't actually looked at his posting style at all yet still try and state an informed opinion on this game. These are VASTLY different styles and there are only 8 posts. So why did you feel the need to add votes to him in an IML game with 7 people before he could even respond based off only 8 posts do you have extra information that we don't?
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On January 10 2014 18:01 Holyflare wrote:Show nested quote +On January 10 2014 17:58 GGTeMpLaR wrote:On January 10 2014 17:56 raynpelikoneet wrote:On January 10 2014 05:09 Derrida wrote:
^ Agreed, I am disliking this amount of fluff. We need to get back to reads. What do you guys think about Artanis playing along with the Scooby Doo scheme? How is this not a specific accusation? Or a specific question or whatever? I think it pretty clearly reads he is concerned about Artanis' play and wants to know what other people think about it. no? How is asking "what do you guys think of X doing Y?" an accusation? It's an extremely safe way to look like you're contributing to the discussion without actually putting yourself out in the open for anyone to read you or committing to any viewpoints. Show nested quote +On January 10 2014 04:53 Giggletummy wrote:
What intentions and consequences do you ascribe to his posting? Show nested quote +On January 10 2014 03:57 Giggletummy wrote:
Any purely speculative thoughts based on people searching or not searching? Show nested quote +On January 10 2014 05:11 Giggletummy wrote:
GGTeMpLaR, LIGHTNING ROUND TIME. HF's buddy plays along or sits silently while HF posts? Show nested quote +On January 10 2014 07:38 Giggletummy wrote:On January 10 2014 07:28 GGTeMpLaR wrote:On January 10 2014 06:26 Giggletummy wrote:
I don't like that artanis is content to just play dog. There's no real rush on the day, but whereas you messed around and tried to get other people to mess around (townie), artanis is content to do nothing more than mess around. I don't count the non-me bark as not messing around. He also has 2 brackets in his name, and we have 2 scum. After this post you joke around some more with HolyFlare who still hasn't given a read despite me pinging him. Artanis actually gave a scum read (or at least, that's what I read into his barking at Derrida as) that I agree with. At least he's playing the game while trolling. HolyFlare is still trying to recruit people into his mysteryvan. How do you read Artanis scummy over HolyFlare and Derrida? Cuz HolyFlare came into the game and made a spectacle of himself. For a couple hours into the game, that's still going to be townie for me. Artanis DID do a little read-giving, which I like more than what rayn has done. But I don't view him barking and whatnot as determinative of anything. His more recent post looks better. Derrida sounds like Doritos. Show nested quote +On January 10 2014 09:00 Giggletummy wrote:
mocsta, any comment on the derrida suspicions? These all fall under the same category of what you attribute to Deridadadadada being scum. Yet this guy has significantly more trolly posts inbetween and a substantially larger filter. Why is he not your target instead?
I don't know, now that you lay it out like that he does seem really suspicious too.
Maybe it was something about the "lightning round" that made me want to trust he had good intentions LOL
Ok I still think Derrida reads scummy to me but Giggletummy is scummy too now. He was the one who asked for us to pull off the votes so that the vote wouldn't pass without him responding, which actually is a pretty good way of preventing your partner from getting lynched without hard-defending them but also an easy way to look townie if by some odd chance Derrida is actually town.
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It's not about style. It's about the mindset. Derrida's mindset in this game seems totally different than in his newbie game.
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I actually don't think GGTeMpLaR would go against all odds as scum and continuosly attack Derrida if he was scum.
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But don't you dare to tunnel him zizyo. I can tell you it's quite clear the dude is town.
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Holyflare who's Giggletummy's scumbuddy?
Mocsta soft-bussing? Seems good to you?
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On January 10 2014 18:07 Holyflare wrote:Show nested quote +On January 10 2014 18:03 GGTeMpLaR wrote:On January 10 2014 17:57 Holyflare wrote:On January 10 2014 17:55 GGTeMpLaR wrote:
That might work for you but from my perspective the probability is flipped.
Either Mocsta or Artanis bussed him (unlikely) or he's scum with any of You/Giggle/Rayn. You can retrieve scum reads from 8 posts of a filter? I'm am quite seriously impressed. You seem to KNOW that the guy is scum despite me linking an ACTUAL scum game of his from his last newbie game that looks nothing like this one so far. Two of the posts, especially the one we're discussing right now read very scummy to me. I'm still waiting for his actual response. Right now he is the strongest scum-tell I have. I haven't actually read through the filter of the last game and compared it to the filter from this one yet. I'm not sure how valuable it will prove with such a low sample size and the fact that people are likely to change their play from game to game, especially during their first few games, so even if it is a different style I'm not willing to clear him based on that fact alone. Are you claiming scum or something? You just admit to having not read his previous game and so haven't actually looked at his posting style at all yet still try and state an informed opinion on this game. These are VASTLY different styles and there are only 8 posts. So why did you feel the need to add votes to him in an IML game with 7 people before he could even respond based off only 8 posts do you have extra information that we don't?
Ok well I didn't think I had to go through and read everyone's game history to have educated reads on them as the two posts in question read as scum independently of a posting history in my view.
I don't know what IML stands for but I think if he is town though that it would be pretty obvious if the mafia just decided to pile on the last couple votes without letting him respond. That being said, I'd like to hear from both Giggle and Derrida before I come to a final decision as to which reads more scummy so
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On January 10 2014 18:12 raynpelikoneet wrote:
It's not about style. It's about the mindset. Derrida's mindset in this game seems totally different than in his newbie game.
I'll read over it tomorrow but I still won't put much stock into it as I think people can change their play, especially when they've only got one game played it is probably very easy to change their game.
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Also who/what is zizyo (or what is it a reference to)?
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GGTeMpLaR Derrida's scumplay was really insecure and tryhard. His posting in this game is more "happy" and reckless, i don't see any signs of him trying to hide anything or him thinking too hard about what people think about his posts.
That's usually a townie trait.
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On January 10 2014 18:20 GGTeMpLaR wrote:
Also who/what is zizyo (or what is it a reference to)?
ziziyo = how BackHo used to type GG in Broodwar. 
I am referring to you with it in this game.
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IML is instant majority lynch (which this game is). When a person reaches a majority that person is INSTANTLY LYNCHED. Thus it is extremely dangerous to leave your votes on people if you do not have full information on them yet.
On January 10 2014 18:15 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Holyflare who's Giggletummy's scumbuddy?
Mocsta soft-bussing? Seems good to you?
Mocsta seems very buddy buddy with giggle, weirdly so. A lot of people were around (yes a lot of it was scooby related at the time) but he took his time out from trolling to only address Giggle posts. I like to think Mocsta has a longing crush on giggle too, evidence can be found:
On January 10 2014 09:56 Mocsta wrote:
But you aren't the medic.
*goes off to cry in a corner*
@Giggly/WoS
Where'd ya go?
He only addresses people that he knows (me and artanis etc) with heuristics from voice games (yes, elements of trolling etc etc) but doesn't attempt to involve us in discussion either in favour of discussion with giggle (who I've just proven to be... not so towny looking).
I don't like mocsta's vote either (was it L-1 or L-2??) he gets frustrated in voice games when people start voting so fast and he should know not to do it in a forum game without discussion especially as there is ample time to discuss. His case was also very lackluster.
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I can see a team of Giggle/Mocsta/Templar (obviously eliminating one) although judged on exp of mafia games (I don't think i've seen templar play?) he looks more tunelled than anything else and also seems confused about the implications of the setup whereas Mocsta definitely knows better. At an early stage such as now a Giggle/Mocsta team is looking mighty plausible.
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Why not Artanis. I think i get what ziziyo is saying about his original suspicion on you and to me it seems like a tiwnie thought process which is really hard to emulate as mafia.
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+ Show Spoiler +On January 10 2014 17:36 Holyflare wrote:+ Show Spoiler +On January 10 2014 16:39 Holyflare wrote:+ Show Spoiler +On January 10 2014 08:14 Holyflare wrote:Show nested quote +On January 10 2014 08:08 Artanis[Xp] wrote:On January 10 2014 08:03 Holyflare wrote:
Scrappy Doo (Artanis[XP]) *growls* A) Try the front gate DUH!
*wags tail* Team 2: Shaggy (raynpelikoneet) and Scrappy (Artanis[XP]) have decided to try the front gate. DUH!
Scrappy and Yabba walk up the front gate. ![[image loading]](http://2012a2group1.files.wordpress.com/2012/10/jessie-j.png) A single crow sits atop the cast iron gate. The gate is very slightly ajar but even going near it gives you the creeps. Yikes! You just KNOW something bad will happen if you walk through that gate, the entrance to a haunted mansion can't be free from ghouls and ghosts, surely!? You have a choice which you must now reach between the BOTH of you. Do you: A) Try the gate anyway. DESPITE THE BAD VIBES AND FEELINGS. B) Back off and inspect the gate further. Maybe you missed something. C) FLEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE! Decision reached: A) Try the gate anyway. DESPITE THE BAD VIBES AND FEELINGS.
Scrappy and Shaggy edge up to the ominous looking gate with the crow sitting on top.
Shaggy: I got a real bad feeling about this Scrappy. Scrappy: PUPPPYYYYYYY POWERRRRRRR!!!!!!!!!!!! Scrappy charges into the gate headfirst! It swings open and the crow flies away. It turns it's head in the distance and Shaggy swears he see's the eyes of a human staring right back at him.
Shaggy: Don't... no! Don't go. Come on, Scrappy Doo, don't do this. Please, don't go. Scrappy: Ghosts don't stand a chance with me! Let me at em!!! Let me at em!!! --------Scrappy and Shaggy walk through the gate only to end up on the same side they started on----------
Shaggy: Like, what's going on Scrappy? I could have sworn we were just here. *Scrappy tries again and again* Scrappy: I don't get it Shaggy, every time I go through the gate I end up back here again!
Shaggy: Like, let's get out of here! *Shaggy and Scrappy turn around only to see the same gate now in front of them once again* Shaggy: Mary Jane isn't really helping right now! Scrappy:Who is she Shaggy?
Shaggy: Just a timeless friend. How do we get out of here??? *Scrappy eyes some words on the gate bars* Scrappy: It says: Show nested quote +If an exit is what you require, then solve this riddle and obtain your desire!
"There is an ancient invention still used in some parts of the world today that allows people to see through walls.
What is it?"
A correct answer from either of you will be acceptable. Shaggy, OH SHAGGY! I KNOW IT! IT'S A HAMMER, RIGHT RIGHT? *Scrappy runs through the gate and ends up right where he was before* *Sadness spreads across his face* Shaggy: You know, I think I just might have got it! A window! *Shaggy walks through the gate and actually ends up INSIDE the mansion's grounds. Scrappy follows disheartendly* Shaggy: I definitely preferred being on the other side of that gate!
What do you do now? A) Text the others the password to the gate and wait for them to arrive. B) Explore the compound briefly for clues. C) Both (reduction in clue searching ability!)
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On January 10 2014 17:59 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Team [S]crappy[S]haggy will do the following:
B) Explore the compound briefly for clues.
Shaggy and Scrappy proceed further into the grounds only to realise they have no actual idea where they have ended up.
Shaggy: We appear to be lost. I knew I shoulda just waited for the guys!
Scrappy: No problem Shaggy. I can get us out of here! If I knew where here was.....
Scrappy and Shaggy look around and to their dismay it is hedges as far as their eyes can see. It appears they have stumbled into a maze!!
Complete this maze (in paint or whatevs) and post back here with the finished result!
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On January 10 2014 18:49 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Why not Artanis. I think i get what ziziyo is saying about his original suspicion on you and to me it seems like a tiwnie thought process which is really hard to emulate as mafia.
Artanis is a dog at the moment and his vote on Derrida was kinda shit too because he didn't justify it and it was a +1. Meh. They can't all be scum ~_~ I can switch artanis for giggle or mocsta to be honest. It's early and there isn't enough for me to go on properly until I can talk to them or they actually participate in finding scooby and velma T_T!
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