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On January 07 2014 10:06 iamperfection wrote:Show nested quote +On January 07 2014 10:01 Artanis[Xp] wrote:On January 07 2014 09:59 Mr. Cheesecake wrote:On January 07 2014 09:55 Artanis[Xp] wrote:On January 07 2014 09:54 iamperfection wrote:On January 07 2014 09:50 Artanis[Xp] wrote:On January 07 2014 09:40 iamperfection wrote:On January 07 2014 09:37 Artanis[Xp] wrote:On January 07 2014 09:33 iamperfection wrote:On January 07 2014 09:30 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
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I don't think antagonizing him further is a good idea when he's actually trying to improve himself. What better way to improve then with a huge spotlight?!!! A calm quiet atmosphere of peace and prosperity, where there is ample food for everyone and we live joyful, fulfilling lives. It seems like your more willing for everyone to hold hands and sing songs rather than catch mafia? You scum? I'm just a man that enjoys peace and prosperity. Why would you infer such a person being scum rather than benevolent? Is this what the world is turning into? So how do you catch scum? If all you purpose is peace? Unfortunately to get peace sometimes we must purge the lands of those who seek to disrupt that peace and manipulate it. I wish it weren't necessary. This is a scumslip. Artanis realizes that purging the land of mafia is necessary, but wishes that he didn't have to. He is mafia and doesn't want to hurt his mafia brethren. If Artanis were truly peace-loving then he would be more than happy to rid the land of evil forces. For the town, lynch Artanis. Any violence is unfortunate, regardless of if the reasons are just. I wish those who seek to destroy our lands would instead build towards a greater future where we may all live in prosperity. It is unfortunate that this is not the case. do you always talk like this?
Negative, but I'm enjoying it.
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On January 07 2014 10:07 Artanis[Xp] wrote:Show nested quote +On January 07 2014 10:06 iamperfection wrote:On January 07 2014 10:01 Artanis[Xp] wrote:On January 07 2014 09:59 Mr. Cheesecake wrote:On January 07 2014 09:55 Artanis[Xp] wrote:On January 07 2014 09:54 iamperfection wrote:On January 07 2014 09:50 Artanis[Xp] wrote:On January 07 2014 09:40 iamperfection wrote:On January 07 2014 09:37 Artanis[Xp] wrote:On January 07 2014 09:33 iamperfection wrote:
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What better way to improve then with a huge spotlight?!!! A calm quiet atmosphere of peace and prosperity, where there is ample food for everyone and we live joyful, fulfilling lives. It seems like your more willing for everyone to hold hands and sing songs rather than catch mafia? You scum? I'm just a man that enjoys peace and prosperity. Why would you infer such a person being scum rather than benevolent? Is this what the world is turning into? So how do you catch scum? If all you purpose is peace? Unfortunately to get peace sometimes we must purge the lands of those who seek to disrupt that peace and manipulate it. I wish it weren't necessary. This is a scumslip. Artanis realizes that purging the land of mafia is necessary, but wishes that he didn't have to. He is mafia and doesn't want to hurt his mafia brethren. If Artanis were truly peace-loving then he would be more than happy to rid the land of evil forces. For the town, lynch Artanis. Any violence is unfortunate, regardless of if the reasons are just. I wish those who seek to destroy our lands would instead build towards a greater future where we may all live in prosperity. It is unfortunate that this is not the case. do you always talk like this? Negative, but I'm enjoying it.
do you think it helps town?
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On January 07 2014 10:09 iamperfection wrote:Show nested quote +On January 07 2014 10:07 Artanis[Xp] wrote:On January 07 2014 10:06 iamperfection wrote:On January 07 2014 10:01 Artanis[Xp] wrote:On January 07 2014 09:59 Mr. Cheesecake wrote:On January 07 2014 09:55 Artanis[Xp] wrote:On January 07 2014 09:54 iamperfection wrote:On January 07 2014 09:50 Artanis[Xp] wrote:On January 07 2014 09:40 iamperfection wrote:On January 07 2014 09:37 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
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A calm quiet atmosphere of peace and prosperity, where there is ample food for everyone and we live joyful, fulfilling lives. It seems like your more willing for everyone to hold hands and sing songs rather than catch mafia? You scum? I'm just a man that enjoys peace and prosperity. Why would you infer such a person being scum rather than benevolent? Is this what the world is turning into? So how do you catch scum? If all you purpose is peace? Unfortunately to get peace sometimes we must purge the lands of those who seek to disrupt that peace and manipulate it. I wish it weren't necessary. This is a scumslip. Artanis realizes that purging the land of mafia is necessary, but wishes that he didn't have to. He is mafia and doesn't want to hurt his mafia brethren. If Artanis were truly peace-loving then he would be more than happy to rid the land of evil forces. For the town, lynch Artanis. Any violence is unfortunate, regardless of if the reasons are just. I wish those who seek to destroy our lands would instead build towards a greater future where we may all live in prosperity. It is unfortunate that this is not the case. do you always talk like this? Negative, but I'm enjoying it. do you think it helps town?
Negative.
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On January 07 2014 10:06 Mr. Cheesecake wrote:Show nested quote +On January 07 2014 10:03 gumshoe wrote:On January 07 2014 09:59 Mr. Cheesecake wrote:On January 07 2014 09:55 Artanis[Xp] wrote:On January 07 2014 09:54 iamperfection wrote:On January 07 2014 09:50 Artanis[Xp] wrote:On January 07 2014 09:40 iamperfection wrote:On January 07 2014 09:37 Artanis[Xp] wrote:On January 07 2014 09:33 iamperfection wrote:On January 07 2014 09:30 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
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I don't think antagonizing him further is a good idea when he's actually trying to improve himself. What better way to improve then with a huge spotlight?!!! A calm quiet atmosphere of peace and prosperity, where there is ample food for everyone and we live joyful, fulfilling lives. It seems like your more willing for everyone to hold hands and sing songs rather than catch mafia? You scum? I'm just a man that enjoys peace and prosperity. Why would you infer such a person being scum rather than benevolent? Is this what the world is turning into? So how do you catch scum? If all you purpose is peace? Unfortunately to get peace sometimes we must purge the lands of those who seek to disrupt that peace and manipulate it. I wish it weren't necessary. This is a scumslip. Artanis realizes that purging the land of mafia is necessary, but wishes that he didn't have to. He is mafia and doesn't want to hurt his mafia brethren. If Artanis were truly peace-loving then he would be more than happy to rid the land of evil forces. For the town, lynch Artanis. I will say its actually interesting that Artanis felt the need to compromise his views his views in the slightest... Ive played voice games with him recently were he claimed jester as town in a jesterless setup.... and held his ground the whole game XD. Even though his switching up a rather trollish opinion in a rather trollish way, the fact that hes switching it at all is an unnerving thing for a secure Artanis to do ) : So you see this compromising of trollish behavior as scummy? Interesting. Ok so you've played voice with him, can you tell me more about his trolling in particular? Maybe his playstyle, even. Haven't played much with Artanis so I can't get a feel for his feels (if you know what I mean)
I wouldnt be putting too much stock in it if he hadnt just confirmed that his voice play is affecting his forum play, but seeing as hes opened that door why not. Hes a trollish persona regardless of his alignment, hes usually pretty laid back and unwilling to compromise his own fun to win a game XD which is why him adjusting his initial stance of being a peace loving peace lover of peace due to only a little pressure coming out of IAM is interesting. I'm not willing to call him scum for it though, you could just as easily be a scum player trying to get me to secure your mislynch for you, so I'll hold off on the verdicts for now.
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Gum, do you feel I'm the scummiest person so far or is there someone that jumped on the heat you find more suspicious because of it? I can't really tell from your post.
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On January 07 2014 10:09 Artanis[Xp] wrote:Show nested quote +On January 07 2014 10:09 iamperfection wrote:On January 07 2014 10:07 Artanis[Xp] wrote:On January 07 2014 10:06 iamperfection wrote:On January 07 2014 10:01 Artanis[Xp] wrote:On January 07 2014 09:59 Mr. Cheesecake wrote:On January 07 2014 09:55 Artanis[Xp] wrote:On January 07 2014 09:54 iamperfection wrote:On January 07 2014 09:50 Artanis[Xp] wrote:On January 07 2014 09:40 iamperfection wrote:
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It seems like your more willing for everyone to hold hands and sing songs rather than catch mafia? You scum? I'm just a man that enjoys peace and prosperity. Why would you infer such a person being scum rather than benevolent? Is this what the world is turning into? So how do you catch scum? If all you purpose is peace? Unfortunately to get peace sometimes we must purge the lands of those who seek to disrupt that peace and manipulate it. I wish it weren't necessary. This is a scumslip. Artanis realizes that purging the land of mafia is necessary, but wishes that he didn't have to. He is mafia and doesn't want to hurt his mafia brethren. If Artanis were truly peace-loving then he would be more than happy to rid the land of evil forces. For the town, lynch Artanis. Any violence is unfortunate, regardless of if the reasons are just. I wish those who seek to destroy our lands would instead build towards a greater future where we may all live in prosperity. It is unfortunate that this is not the case. do you always talk like this? Negative, but I'm enjoying it. do you think it helps town? Negative.
lol dont think scum would be that ballsy to admit to being anti town
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Artanis, how do you feel about Gumshoe begging to survive the early game? I have my own opinion on it, want to see if you came up with the same conclusion I have.
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Yamato is the scummiest person of people who have posted he posted nothing of value yet has posted and he has proclaimed himself to be vastly improved as town and has been useless so far
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On January 07 2014 10:21 Mr. Cheesecake wrote:
Artanis, how do you feel about Gumshoe begging to survive the early game? I have my own opinion on it, want to see if you came up with the same conclusion I have.
I see a myriad of potential reasons. I've played a bunch with Gumshoe on voice and he tends to be loud there. He's been lynched there a bunch of times on D1 so I can imagine him saying this regardless of alignment. I struggle to find a reason that makes me lean on him to one alignment or the other regarding this specific post.
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On January 07 2014 10:19 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
Gum, do you feel I'm the scummiest person so far or is there someone that jumped on the heat you find more suspicious because of it? I can't really tell from your post.
I found what you did curios, not scummy, cheesecakes jump on you though isn't as simple, cause it happened through me which leads me to believe he cared more about how I responded to the question then how you play in voice. Which isn't alignment indicative, it just means he's started playing the game. Right now I think there are focus points in the thread, but no actual indications of scum intent, something that is sure to change so long as we keep talking ( :
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On January 07 2014 10:23 iamperfection wrote:
Yamato is the scummiest person of people who have posted he posted nothing of value yet has posted and he has proclaimed himself to be vastly improved as town and has been useless so far
lol
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On January 07 2014 10:29 gumshoe wrote:Show nested quote +On January 07 2014 10:19 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
Gum, do you feel I'm the scummiest person so far or is there someone that jumped on the heat you find more suspicious because of it? I can't really tell from your post. I found what you did curios, not scummy, cheesecakes jump on you though isn't as simple, cause it happened through me which leads me to believe he cared more about how I responded to the question then how you play in voice. Which isn't alignment indicative, it just means he's started playing the game. Right now I think there are focus points in the thread, but no actual indications of scum intent, something that is sure to change so long as we keep talking ( :
So basically you wrote 4 sentences about something you said you thought was curious, then another four sentences on why it isn't alignment indicative. You gain scumpointsᵀᴹ!
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On January 07 2014 10:30 yamato77 wrote:Show nested quote +On January 07 2014 10:23 iamperfection wrote:
Yamato is the scummiest person of people who have posted he posted nothing of value yet has posted and he has proclaimed himself to be vastly improved as town and has been useless so far lol
see he keeps doing it
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On January 07 2014 10:28 Artanis[Xp] wrote:Show nested quote +On January 07 2014 10:21 Mr. Cheesecake wrote:
Artanis, how do you feel about Gumshoe begging to survive the early game? I have my own opinion on it, want to see if you came up with the same conclusion I have. I see a myriad of potential reasons. I've played a bunch with Gumshoe on voice and he tends to be loud there. He's been lynched there a bunch of times on D1 so I can imagine him saying this regardless of alignment. I struggle to find a reason that makes me lean on him to one alignment or the other regarding this specific post.
That doesn't give me much to work with =| I may as well tell you my opinion on it, see if you share the sentiment. Two games ago I was lynched as town for being too Pro-town, too sexy, whatever. Felt it was completely out of my control and it was terrible. In the game still going on I was called out for being protown and it actually pissed me off because I thought i was going to get lynched again, this time D1 for no reason.
I can see Gumshoe being sick and tired of being called scummy for seemingly no reason, and just wanting to survive as town. I think it'd be fairly ballsy as scum to say "Hey, don't lynch me D1, I'm going to show you I hunt scum" without being as sarcastic as Coagulation or something. It made me lean townie on him. Thoughts?
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On January 07 2014 10:35 Mr. Cheesecake wrote:Show nested quote +On January 07 2014 10:28 Artanis[Xp] wrote:On January 07 2014 10:21 Mr. Cheesecake wrote:
Artanis, how do you feel about Gumshoe begging to survive the early game? I have my own opinion on it, want to see if you came up with the same conclusion I have. I see a myriad of potential reasons. I've played a bunch with Gumshoe on voice and he tends to be loud there. He's been lynched there a bunch of times on D1 so I can imagine him saying this regardless of alignment. I struggle to find a reason that makes me lean on him to one alignment or the other regarding this specific post. That doesn't give me much to work with =| I may as well tell you my opinion on it, see if you share the sentiment. Two games ago I was lynched as town for being too Pro-town, too sexy, whatever. Felt it was completely out of my control and it was terrible. In the game still going on I was called out for being protown and it actually pissed me off because I thought i was going to get lynched again, this time D1 for no reason. I can see Gumshoe being sick and tired of being called scummy for seemingly no reason, and just wanting to survive as town. I think it'd be fairly ballsy as scum to say "Hey, don't lynch me D1, I'm going to show you I hunt scum" without being as sarcastic as Coagulation or something. It made me lean townie on him. Thoughts?
I guess it's just hard for me to imagine because I have never gotten mislynched. I'm just that good + Show Spoiler +or that bad at scum that no one needs to worry
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On January 07 2014 10:32 Artanis[Xp] wrote:Show nested quote +On January 07 2014 10:29 gumshoe wrote:On January 07 2014 10:19 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
Gum, do you feel I'm the scummiest person so far or is there someone that jumped on the heat you find more suspicious because of it? I can't really tell from your post. I found what you did curios, not scummy, cheesecakes jump on you though isn't as simple, cause it happened through me which leads me to believe he cared more about how I responded to the question then how you play in voice. Which isn't alignment indicative, it just means he's started playing the game. Right now I think there are focus points in the thread, but no actual indications of scum intent, something that is sure to change so long as we keep talking ( : So basically you wrote 4 sentences about something you said you thought was curious, then another four sentences on why it isn't alignment indicative. You gain scumpointsᵀᴹ!
Do I level up? Btw curios doesn't mean scummy, it just means I wanna know what other people think about you, and I'll put forth my actual thoughts on you to do that and get responses that way instead of just asking bland questions. Besides, just because I'm town doesn't mean I have to tell you everything I'm thinking : P and just because I'm super awesome doesn't mean I'll have scum reads out the gate, so chew on the null reads for a while, if you actually read the process instead of sneering at the conclusion youll find both worth, and proof that I am at the very least trying to think about the game from a townie perspective.
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On January 07 2014 10:38 Artanis[Xp] wrote:Show nested quote +On January 07 2014 10:35 Mr. Cheesecake wrote:On January 07 2014 10:28 Artanis[Xp] wrote:On January 07 2014 10:21 Mr. Cheesecake wrote:
Artanis, how do you feel about Gumshoe begging to survive the early game? I have my own opinion on it, want to see if you came up with the same conclusion I have. I see a myriad of potential reasons. I've played a bunch with Gumshoe on voice and he tends to be loud there. He's been lynched there a bunch of times on D1 so I can imagine him saying this regardless of alignment. I struggle to find a reason that makes me lean on him to one alignment or the other regarding this specific post. That doesn't give me much to work with =| I may as well tell you my opinion on it, see if you share the sentiment. Two games ago I was lynched as town for being too Pro-town, too sexy, whatever. Felt it was completely out of my control and it was terrible. In the game still going on I was called out for being protown and it actually pissed me off because I thought i was going to get lynched again, this time D1 for no reason. I can see Gumshoe being sick and tired of being called scummy for seemingly no reason, and just wanting to survive as town. I think it'd be fairly ballsy as scum to say "Hey, don't lynch me D1, I'm going to show you I hunt scum" without being as sarcastic as Coagulation or something. It made me lean townie on him. Thoughts? I guess it's just hard for me to imagine because I have never gotten mislynched. I'm just that good + Show Spoiler +or that bad at scum that no one needs to worry . Your story makes sense, but I can also imagine him having thought of this and deciding beforehand that he wants to post this. I buy that he's frustrated of dying on D1. I can completely get into that, I just don't see why that means he's town now. Saying "I'm going to show you I hunt scum" doesn't cut it in that regard.
What I should say is, I wouldn't post something like that as mafia so that makes me lean town on him. I take it you're leaning scum on Gumshoe atm because you posted that gumshoe was talking about something not being alignment indicative and that he gains scumpoints.
Gumshoe you are once again the topic of day 1 discussion! Congrats! I can only hope that this leads to good things this time around :D
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On January 07 2014 10:41 gumshoe wrote:Show nested quote +On January 07 2014 10:32 Artanis[Xp] wrote:On January 07 2014 10:29 gumshoe wrote:On January 07 2014 10:19 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
Gum, do you feel I'm the scummiest person so far or is there someone that jumped on the heat you find more suspicious because of it? I can't really tell from your post. I found what you did curios, not scummy, cheesecakes jump on you though isn't as simple, cause it happened through me which leads me to believe he cared more about how I responded to the question then how you play in voice. Which isn't alignment indicative, it just means he's started playing the game. Right now I think there are focus points in the thread, but no actual indications of scum intent, something that is sure to change so long as we keep talking ( : So basically you wrote 4 sentences about something you said you thought was curious, then another four sentences on why it isn't alignment indicative. You gain scumpointsᵀᴹ! Do I level up? Btw curios doesn't mean scummy, it just means I wanna know what other people think about you, and I'll put forth my actual thoughts on you to do that and get responses that way instead of just asking bland questions. Besides, just because I'm town doesn't mean I have to tell you everything I'm thinking : P and just because I'm super awesome doesn't mean I'll have scum reads out the gate, so chew on the null reads for a while, if you actually read the process instead of sneering at the conclusion youll find both worth, and proof that I am at the very least trying to think about the game from a townie perspective.
You can level up if you accumulate enough points to lynch with fire status. Currently you're at prod with a glowstick status. My problem is that you're saying a lot of things without saying anything of worth that helps us get further. On voice mafia you tend to rant a lot as well, both as town and scum, but I believe you put in more effort to push town forward and ask questions as town than as scum. I don't see you trying to figure out alignments, you're just saying nothing. The best way to prove you're town is to hunt for scum.
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On January 07 2014 10:34 iamperfection wrote:Show nested quote +On January 07 2014 10:30 yamato77 wrote:On January 07 2014 10:23 iamperfection wrote:
Yamato is the scummiest person of people who have posted he posted nothing of value yet has posted and he has proclaimed himself to be vastly improved as town and has been useless so far lol see he keeps doing it
Yamato is a townie that a lot of people expect a lot out of, in extractor trick mafia he was out there directing town discussion from the get go, here he is just kinda being silly, but it takes balls to be an unhelpful player with a helpful reputation, and the day is still young so I would say give him a bit before dropping the hammer, I doubt he'd be this trolly as scum, knowing it would draw attention to himself in exactly this fashion.
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On January 07 2014 10:45 Artanis[Xp] wrote:Show nested quote +On January 07 2014 10:41 gumshoe wrote:On January 07 2014 10:32 Artanis[Xp] wrote:On January 07 2014 10:29 gumshoe wrote:On January 07 2014 10:19 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
Gum, do you feel I'm the scummiest person so far or is there someone that jumped on the heat you find more suspicious because of it? I can't really tell from your post. I found what you did curios, not scummy, cheesecakes jump on you though isn't as simple, cause it happened through me which leads me to believe he cared more about how I responded to the question then how you play in voice. Which isn't alignment indicative, it just means he's started playing the game. Right now I think there are focus points in the thread, but no actual indications of scum intent, something that is sure to change so long as we keep talking ( : So basically you wrote 4 sentences about something you said you thought was curious, then another four sentences on why it isn't alignment indicative. You gain scumpointsᵀᴹ! Do I level up? Btw curios doesn't mean scummy, it just means I wanna know what other people think about you, and I'll put forth my actual thoughts on you to do that and get responses that way instead of just asking bland questions. Besides, just because I'm town doesn't mean I have to tell you everything I'm thinking : P and just because I'm super awesome doesn't mean I'll have scum reads out the gate, so chew on the null reads for a while, if you actually read the process instead of sneering at the conclusion youll find both worth, and proof that I am at the very least trying to think about the game from a townie perspective. You can level up if you accumulate enough points to lynch with fire status. Currently you're at prod with a glowstick status. My problem is that you're saying a lot of things without saying anything of worth that helps us get further. On voice mafia you tend to rant a lot as well, both as town and scum, but I believe you put in more effort to push town forward and ask questions as town than as scum. I don't see you trying to figure out alignments, you're just saying nothing. The best way to prove you're town is to hunt for scum.
Actual Scum hunting is townie, building and pushing a case against someone because that's what townies do is not. What do you think of Iam pushing a reckless Yamato ? ( sigh, boring question alert.)
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