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justanothertownie
Profile Joined July 2013
16320 Posts
January 08 2014 01:33 GMT
#490
On January 08 2014 10:30 WaveofShadow wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 08 2014 10:25 wherebugsgo wrote:
On January 08 2014 10:23 iamperfection wrote:
why are you asking my permission to do things wos? you seem to want to be as wishy washy as possible


what do you think of this?

On January 08 2014 10:21 Corazon wrote:
Wait can someone explain to me why that post was scummy? I'm not too familiar on WoS' town play so I'm not sure what you two see in his post.


On January 08 2014 10:23 Corazon wrote:
Wow WoS. That post looks really bad.
"I'm so townie Cora, obviously"



LOL I DID notice that.
Cora what turned the lightbulb on?

Show nested quote +
On January 08 2014 10:26 justanothertownie wrote:
On January 08 2014 10:21 WaveofShadow wrote:
Bring it, suckas.
JAT:

Until prodded endlessly by WBG, he contributed nothing to the thread besides the nitpicking of other people's posts and reads and providing none of his own. Not a huge fan of his posting thus far---a little too 'fence-sitty' for my liking but whateva.

Iamp can I have a looky at you next?

I started the conversation with bugs you know...

Conversation yes, good contribution imo no. You offered exactly zero reads or opinion of your own aside from those that served to pick on others' posts and logic. Very VERY easy to do as scum. I dunno 'bout you yet.

Well, if I am not mistaken I was prodding bugs for reads at least as hard as the other way round. How come you paint the whole thing this one sided?
justanothertownie
Profile Joined July 2013
16320 Posts
January 08 2014 01:41 GMT
#495
On January 08 2014 10:36 WaveofShadow wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 08 2014 10:33 justanothertownie wrote:
On January 08 2014 10:30 WaveofShadow wrote:
On January 08 2014 10:25 wherebugsgo wrote:
On January 08 2014 10:23 iamperfection wrote:
why are you asking my permission to do things wos? you seem to want to be as wishy washy as possible


what do you think of this?

On January 08 2014 10:21 Corazon wrote:
Wait can someone explain to me why that post was scummy? I'm not too familiar on WoS' town play so I'm not sure what you two see in his post.


On January 08 2014 10:23 Corazon wrote:
Wow WoS. That post looks really bad.
"I'm so townie Cora, obviously"



LOL I DID notice that.
Cora what turned the lightbulb on?

On January 08 2014 10:26 justanothertownie wrote:
On January 08 2014 10:21 WaveofShadow wrote:
Bring it, suckas.
JAT:

Until prodded endlessly by WBG, he contributed nothing to the thread besides the nitpicking of other people's posts and reads and providing none of his own. Not a huge fan of his posting thus far---a little too 'fence-sitty' for my liking but whateva.

Iamp can I have a looky at you next?

I started the conversation with bugs you know...

Conversation yes, good contribution imo no. You offered exactly zero reads or opinion of your own aside from those that served to pick on others' posts and logic. Very VERY easy to do as scum. I dunno 'bout you yet.

Well, if I am not mistaken I was prodding bugs for reads at least as hard as the other way round. How come you paint the whole thing this one sided?

I didn't; I was giving my read of you. I find your posting up until the reads you gave that WBG wrenched out of you forcefully neutral and unopinionated in a meaningful way. If you don't see the difference between yours and WBG's posting during that conversation than I don't believe there is more I can say on the matter.

How convenient. The problem is you are trying to throw suspicion on me by saying bugs had to forcefully wrench reads out of me when it was exactly the same the other way round. He did not give any reads before that. How does that make any sense?
justanothertownie
Profile Joined July 2013
16320 Posts
January 08 2014 01:48 GMT
#499
On January 08 2014 10:44 WaveofShadow wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 08 2014 10:41 justanothertownie wrote:
On January 08 2014 10:36 WaveofShadow wrote:
On January 08 2014 10:33 justanothertownie wrote:
On January 08 2014 10:30 WaveofShadow wrote:
On January 08 2014 10:25 wherebugsgo wrote:
On January 08 2014 10:23 iamperfection wrote:
why are you asking my permission to do things wos? you seem to want to be as wishy washy as possible


what do you think of this?

On January 08 2014 10:21 Corazon wrote:
Wait can someone explain to me why that post was scummy? I'm not too familiar on WoS' town play so I'm not sure what you two see in his post.


On January 08 2014 10:23 Corazon wrote:
Wow WoS. That post looks really bad.
"I'm so townie Cora, obviously"



LOL I DID notice that.
Cora what turned the lightbulb on?

On January 08 2014 10:26 justanothertownie wrote:
On January 08 2014 10:21 WaveofShadow wrote:
Bring it, suckas.
JAT:

Until prodded endlessly by WBG, he contributed nothing to the thread besides the nitpicking of other people's posts and reads and providing none of his own. Not a huge fan of his posting thus far---a little too 'fence-sitty' for my liking but whateva.

Iamp can I have a looky at you next?

I started the conversation with bugs you know...

Conversation yes, good contribution imo no. You offered exactly zero reads or opinion of your own aside from those that served to pick on others' posts and logic. Very VERY easy to do as scum. I dunno 'bout you yet.

Well, if I am not mistaken I was prodding bugs for reads at least as hard as the other way round. How come you paint the whole thing this one sided?

I didn't; I was giving my read of you. I find your posting up until the reads you gave that WBG wrenched out of you forcefully neutral and unopinionated in a meaningful way. If you don't see the difference between yours and WBG's posting during that conversation than I don't believe there is more I can say on the matter.

How convenient. The problem is you are trying to throw suspicion on me by saying bugs had to forcefully wrench reads out of me when it was exactly the same the other way round. He did not give any reads before that. How does that make any sense?

Nope.
Wrong.
The way I see it, WBG reveals a great deal about himself in the way he defends his policy lynch and most importantly puts himself out there. Everything you had posted up until that point was simply an attack or criticism of somebody else. You know, I'll give you that you're right I suppose in that it is not a read in the proper sense but at least it allows the entire thread to attempt a read of him. His posts are not guarded, careful. Yours reek of it.

Holy mother of shitlogic.
WBG reveals a great deal of himself by talking about POLICY the whole time? Surely you can enlighten me why scum would not be able to comfortably talk about policy how much they want?
Also he is clearly putting himself out there with this while I certainly don't do so by getting in a fight with him. Your posts reek of Sherlock...
justanothertownie
Profile Joined July 2013
16320 Posts
January 08 2014 01:51 GMT
#503
On January 08 2014 10:48 WaveofShadow wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 08 2014 10:44 WaveofShadow wrote:
On January 08 2014 10:41 justanothertownie wrote:
On January 08 2014 10:36 WaveofShadow wrote:
On January 08 2014 10:33 justanothertownie wrote:
On January 08 2014 10:30 WaveofShadow wrote:
On January 08 2014 10:25 wherebugsgo wrote:
On January 08 2014 10:23 iamperfection wrote:
why are you asking my permission to do things wos? you seem to want to be as wishy washy as possible


what do you think of this?

On January 08 2014 10:21 Corazon wrote:
Wait can someone explain to me why that post was scummy? I'm not too familiar on WoS' town play so I'm not sure what you two see in his post.


On January 08 2014 10:23 Corazon wrote:
Wow WoS. That post looks really bad.
"I'm so townie Cora, obviously"



LOL I DID notice that.
Cora what turned the lightbulb on?

On January 08 2014 10:26 justanothertownie wrote:
On January 08 2014 10:21 WaveofShadow wrote:
Bring it, suckas.
JAT:

Until prodded endlessly by WBG, he contributed nothing to the thread besides the nitpicking of other people's posts and reads and providing none of his own. Not a huge fan of his posting thus far---a little too 'fence-sitty' for my liking but whateva.

Iamp can I have a looky at you next?

I started the conversation with bugs you know...

Conversation yes, good contribution imo no. You offered exactly zero reads or opinion of your own aside from those that served to pick on others' posts and logic. Very VERY easy to do as scum. I dunno 'bout you yet.

Well, if I am not mistaken I was prodding bugs for reads at least as hard as the other way round. How come you paint the whole thing this one sided?

I didn't; I was giving my read of you. I find your posting up until the reads you gave that WBG wrenched out of you forcefully neutral and unopinionated in a meaningful way. If you don't see the difference between yours and WBG's posting during that conversation than I don't believe there is more I can say on the matter.

How convenient. The problem is you are trying to throw suspicion on me by saying bugs had to forcefully wrench reads out of me when it was exactly the same the other way round. He did not give any reads before that. How does that make any sense?

Nope.
Wrong.
The way I see it, WBG reveals a great deal about himself in the way he defends his policy lynch and most importantly puts himself out there. Everything you had posted up until that point was simply an attack or criticism of somebody else. You know, I'll give you that you're right I suppose in that it is not a read in the proper sense but at least it allows the entire thread to attempt a read of him. His posts are not guarded, careful. Yours reek of it.

And here's the thing about WBG. I'd call him town simply based on his lurker rage (because it is something I strongly can identify with throughout multiple games) but my issue there is I don't know bugs well. It is entirely possible that he's a clever duck and is jumping on the leftover rage bandwagon from the recent drama threads and is harnessing that in this game or some shit. I don't know how he TRULY feels, or what he is capable of as scum.

This post is better. I have the same problem.
justanothertownie
Profile Joined July 2013
16320 Posts
January 08 2014 01:52 GMT
#504
On January 08 2014 10:51 WaveofShadow wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 08 2014 10:48 justanothertownie wrote:
On January 08 2014 10:44 WaveofShadow wrote:
On January 08 2014 10:41 justanothertownie wrote:
On January 08 2014 10:36 WaveofShadow wrote:
On January 08 2014 10:33 justanothertownie wrote:
On January 08 2014 10:30 WaveofShadow wrote:
On January 08 2014 10:25 wherebugsgo wrote:
On January 08 2014 10:23 iamperfection wrote:
why are you asking my permission to do things wos? you seem to want to be as wishy washy as possible


what do you think of this?

On January 08 2014 10:21 Corazon wrote:
Wait can someone explain to me why that post was scummy? I'm not too familiar on WoS' town play so I'm not sure what you two see in his post.


On January 08 2014 10:23 Corazon wrote:
Wow WoS. That post looks really bad.
"I'm so townie Cora, obviously"



LOL I DID notice that.
Cora what turned the lightbulb on?

On January 08 2014 10:26 justanothertownie wrote:
On January 08 2014 10:21 WaveofShadow wrote:
Bring it, suckas.
JAT:

Until prodded endlessly by WBG, he contributed nothing to the thread besides the nitpicking of other people's posts and reads and providing none of his own. Not a huge fan of his posting thus far---a little too 'fence-sitty' for my liking but whateva.

Iamp can I have a looky at you next?

I started the conversation with bugs you know...

Conversation yes, good contribution imo no. You offered exactly zero reads or opinion of your own aside from those that served to pick on others' posts and logic. Very VERY easy to do as scum. I dunno 'bout you yet.

Well, if I am not mistaken I was prodding bugs for reads at least as hard as the other way round. How come you paint the whole thing this one sided?

I didn't; I was giving my read of you. I find your posting up until the reads you gave that WBG wrenched out of you forcefully neutral and unopinionated in a meaningful way. If you don't see the difference between yours and WBG's posting during that conversation than I don't believe there is more I can say on the matter.

How convenient. The problem is you are trying to throw suspicion on me by saying bugs had to forcefully wrench reads out of me when it was exactly the same the other way round. He did not give any reads before that. How does that make any sense?

Nope.
Wrong.
The way I see it, WBG reveals a great deal about himself in the way he defends his policy lynch and most importantly puts himself out there. Everything you had posted up until that point was simply an attack or criticism of somebody else. You know, I'll give you that you're right I suppose in that it is not a read in the proper sense but at least it allows the entire thread to attempt a read of him. His posts are not guarded, careful. Yours reek of it.

Holy mother of shitlogic.
WBG reveals a great deal of himself by talking about POLICY the whole time? Surely you can enlighten me why scum would not be able to comfortably talk about policy how much they want?
Also he is clearly putting himself out there with this while I certainly don't do so by getting in a fight with him. Your posts reek of Sherlock...

He doesn't just [i]talk[/] about policy. He is throwing it left and right. As I said, it is entirely possible he is doing it as scum and the rage is faked, but if he's scum, to me it's for a different reason than why you are. Sorry JAT, call it shitlogic if you want but that's my stance on the matter. I see differences in your posting styles and your methods of attack even if the content may run similar at points.

Well, you played with me before. You should know that this is how I play.
justanothertownie
Profile Joined July 2013
16320 Posts
January 08 2014 01:56 GMT
#507
On January 08 2014 10:54 wherebugsgo wrote:
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On January 08 2014 10:46 iamperfection wrote:
ill be back in an hour or so.


when you're back I'd love to hear a yamato/WoS comparison.

I prefer yamato right now over WoS. Do you think a scum WoS would be this active in clarifying his thoughts on different players? What experience do you have with WoS?

I think I played with WoS once but my last game was like 8-9 months ago. It'd be nice if people can point me to instances of his meta where he does or does not do what he is doing now. I'm going to look into it myself but obviously it's easier with other people who already have that experience at hand.

Lastly, I'd also like to hear what you think of Corazon. My initial impression was simply that he's bad. I seem to recall reading his posts in another game when I was lurking the forum and I think I got a similar impression then. However he keeps saying things that are blatantly untrue. Have you seen him play scum before? What does his town play look like?

If you are looking for a scumgame have a look at Titanic 1 (this abomination of a game). He is JackSparrow.
justanothertownie
Profile Joined July 2013
16320 Posts
January 08 2014 17:05 GMT
#793
16 pages to read... will take some time. Anything that deserves special attention?
justanothertownie
Profile Joined July 2013
16320 Posts
January 08 2014 18:27 GMT
#819
Ok, caught up. First some comments:
On January 08 2014 13:25 Corazon wrote:
Stop stop stop stop stop Rayn and Thrawn.

Thrawn - lynching Rayn D1 is a bad idea. If Rayn is town, he is going to be a great asset to us going forward. He should be a policy lynch if he lasts longer than N2.


This is so bad. How often is Rayn killed that early as town? Answer is: not very often. Policy lynching rayn because he is still alive is one of the stupidest things I have read this game so far. Why would you write this shit after playing in Titanic I for example? It makes 0 sense. You are just trying to buddy up to rayn here, aren't you?
On January 08 2014 23:38 raynpelikoneet wrote:
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On January 08 2014 23:26 iamperfection wrote:
On January 08 2014 23:25 raynpelikoneet wrote:
He is saying he played intentionally slowly (which =/= scummy) and that your reasoning for votehopping from yamato -> WoS -> yamato looks like you are looking for a lynch target rather than figuring out what people's alignments are.

I actually agree with him to some extent, especially because of your actions regarding voting / unvoting WoS.

bs i stated my reasons for voting wos when i did i reacted to what i saw. That is not scummy in the slightest.

Your vote on WoS was reasonable because i thought the same thing you and kush did when you reacted to his post. The thing i find scummy is when WoS interacted with people after that you retracted from the vote back to yamato for reasons that were "well at least WoS is here talking but yamato is not".

If you really thought WoS is scummy why didn't you keep your vote on him and pressure him about his scummy post(s)? This is exactly what i was trying to say to WBG, you did the exact thing i was worried about people voting for yamato when he earlier on promised to contribute when he had more time.

To me that seems like you did not even care about WoS' alignment, because why would you not keep your vote on him if you think he did something scummy? Why did you not want to hear more from him? If you give him a "free pass" by rectracting your pressure/vote what does that achieve?

This is a good post! If yamato isn't there and WoS is then it makes more sense to keep your vote on WoS and try to figure him out instead of going back to yamato doesn't it?
On January 09 2014 01:08 iamperfection wrote:
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On January 09 2014 01:07 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
I'd be willing to lynch Yamato but I'd rather get CC.

no we are lynching yamato he is scum for sure

I think I have to recheck this but didn't you say you are generally more confident about your townreads than your scumreads in Noir? Your start this game does support this by the post you make after concluding gumshoe is town. You seem awfully sure about your scumread on yamato though...
On January 09 2014 03:01 thrawn2112 wrote:
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On January 09 2014 02:53 raynpelikoneet wrote:
I want to policy lynch. kushmasta or Corazon, i don't care which one. We lose the game if they live even if they are town.
##unvote


no i think kush is town and tbh he's not annoying or disruptive or anything. half of the "anti town" shit he says I can see coming before you even poke at him... you guys make it so easy for him to troll you

I can understand not having a scumread on kush but I don't understand a townread. I can understand prefering other lynches but he definitely is annoying and disruptive and if there is a good policy lynch this game it is him.

To WoS request: I think yamatos contributions since I left were slightly better than before. I want to see more of that when he returns.
justanothertownie
Profile Joined July 2013
16320 Posts
January 08 2014 18:39 GMT
#842
This is for rayn:
+ Show Spoiler +

On January 08 2014 14:02 raynpelikoneet wrote:
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On January 08 2014 13:57 wherebugsgo wrote:
IIRC yamato did a similar thing the last game I played with him, Smurf Mini. Although I don't know if it was because he was scum or busy or what (I assume a combination of both) but he lurked to the point where he got replaced, then his replacement won the game for him and his team basically. (not like the replacement really did anything either, though). On day 1 we almost lynched him, but switched and lynched someone else who happened to also flip scum.

We need to consolidate on yamato as long as he continues to be worthless. He's not completely useless as town and it's incredibly scummy for him to come back only when pressured simply to post one line and leave again.

As for Cora, if he routinely plays like this (something that I will try to confirm for myself later, probably early tomorrow when I wake up) then he's probably not scum since there are ways one can justify his play from a town perspective. It's hard, but doable. However he's still a reasonable alternate choice if something drastic changes with regards to yamato.

I don't think this is a right way to go, because yamato already promised to contribute. When someone does that you leave them alone to make them feel comfortable (in case they are scum) and focus on other people. If yamato does not contribute, he claims scum and we can vote him at the end of the day.

If we vote for yamato now, regardless of his alignment, noone else is pressured and while townies should not stop contributing even when there is a clear thread sentiment that's unfortunately not the general line of thinking.
Placing votes on yamato will kill the discussion to some extent, people are more likely to contribute if they are under pressure. yamato was already under pressure and promised to contribute, that pressure has achieved what it's purpose was.

You are such a hypocrite. Do you know what you are doing here? No? You are doing exactly what I was doing in my little fight wit bugs. He voted Kush who was absent and did not want to go after and pressure or discuss anyone else and I tried to explain to him how it doesn't help and how we could still vote Kush later and kill him. Still you write this:
On January 08 2014 13:06 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On a sidenote i love bugs, that's exactly how you play mafia and JAT and Corazon are being dumb. That does not mean they are scum though.

Yeah... well how much did bugs contribute before I made him do it? Exactly. Funny how you call me dumb for getting him to do something but after our last game I won't consider this logic failures a scumtell for you.
<3


justanothertownie
Profile Joined July 2013
16320 Posts
January 08 2014 18:41 GMT
#846
On January 09 2014 03:30 Mr. Cheesecake wrote:
Reading through the interaction between WBG / JAT left a distaste in my mouth for jat. The whole instance where jat was calling out wbg for calling out kush and not furthering town discussion was bs. jat what is your read on WBG after the interaction?

in terms of policy lynching im down for lynching either because yolo, why not?

You mean bugs and me? How very pro town by you...
I am not sure about bugs but he is at least invested in this game now and I definitely won't lynch a player like him Day1. If I had to decide right now I would say town.
justanothertownie
Profile Joined July 2013
16320 Posts
January 08 2014 18:48 GMT
#866
On January 09 2014 03:42 WaveofShadow wrote:
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On January 09 2014 03:39 justanothertownie wrote:
This is for rayn:
+ Show Spoiler +

On January 08 2014 14:02 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 08 2014 13:57 wherebugsgo wrote:
IIRC yamato did a similar thing the last game I played with him, Smurf Mini. Although I don't know if it was because he was scum or busy or what (I assume a combination of both) but he lurked to the point where he got replaced, then his replacement won the game for him and his team basically. (not like the replacement really did anything either, though). On day 1 we almost lynched him, but switched and lynched someone else who happened to also flip scum.

We need to consolidate on yamato as long as he continues to be worthless. He's not completely useless as town and it's incredibly scummy for him to come back only when pressured simply to post one line and leave again.

As for Cora, if he routinely plays like this (something that I will try to confirm for myself later, probably early tomorrow when I wake up) then he's probably not scum since there are ways one can justify his play from a town perspective. It's hard, but doable. However he's still a reasonable alternate choice if something drastic changes with regards to yamato.

I don't think this is a right way to go, because yamato already promised to contribute. When someone does that you leave them alone to make them feel comfortable (in case they are scum) and focus on other people. If yamato does not contribute, he claims scum and we can vote him at the end of the day.

If we vote for yamato now, regardless of his alignment, noone else is pressured and while townies should not stop contributing even when there is a clear thread sentiment that's unfortunately not the general line of thinking.
Placing votes on yamato will kill the discussion to some extent, people are more likely to contribute if they are under pressure. yamato was already under pressure and promised to contribute, that pressure has achieved what it's purpose was.

You are such a hypocrite. Do you know what you are doing here? No? You are doing exactly what I was doing in my little fight wit bugs. He voted Kush who was absent and did not want to go after and pressure or discuss anyone else and I tried to explain to him how it doesn't help and how we could still vote Kush later and kill him. Still you write this:
On January 08 2014 13:06 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On a sidenote i love bugs, that's exactly how you play mafia and JAT and Corazon are being dumb. That does not mean they are scum though.

Yeah... well how much did bugs contribute before I made him do it? Exactly. Funny how you call me dumb for getting him to do something but after our last game I won't consider this logic failures a scumtell for you.
<3



You used this point against be as well iirc, and I showed hwo to me there was a definite difference between WBG's and your posting during that time. Why do you constantly find the need to come back to it?

Because what both of you are saying is bullshit and I hate being misrepresented this way. But we can drop this if you want. I don't think stupidity makes you scum.
justanothertownie
Profile Joined July 2013
16320 Posts
January 08 2014 18:53 GMT
#879
On January 09 2014 03:51 WaveofShadow wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 09 2014 03:48 justanothertownie wrote:
On January 09 2014 03:42 WaveofShadow wrote:
On January 09 2014 03:39 justanothertownie wrote:
This is for rayn:
+ Show Spoiler +

On January 08 2014 14:02 raynpelikoneet wrote:
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On January 08 2014 13:57 wherebugsgo wrote:
IIRC yamato did a similar thing the last game I played with him, Smurf Mini. Although I don't know if it was because he was scum or busy or what (I assume a combination of both) but he lurked to the point where he got replaced, then his replacement won the game for him and his team basically. (not like the replacement really did anything either, though). On day 1 we almost lynched him, but switched and lynched someone else who happened to also flip scum.

We need to consolidate on yamato as long as he continues to be worthless. He's not completely useless as town and it's incredibly scummy for him to come back only when pressured simply to post one line and leave again.

As for Cora, if he routinely plays like this (something that I will try to confirm for myself later, probably early tomorrow when I wake up) then he's probably not scum since there are ways one can justify his play from a town perspective. It's hard, but doable. However he's still a reasonable alternate choice if something drastic changes with regards to yamato.

I don't think this is a right way to go, because yamato already promised to contribute. When someone does that you leave them alone to make them feel comfortable (in case they are scum) and focus on other people. If yamato does not contribute, he claims scum and we can vote him at the end of the day.

If we vote for yamato now, regardless of his alignment, noone else is pressured and while townies should not stop contributing even when there is a clear thread sentiment that's unfortunately not the general line of thinking.
Placing votes on yamato will kill the discussion to some extent, people are more likely to contribute if they are under pressure. yamato was already under pressure and promised to contribute, that pressure has achieved what it's purpose was.

You are such a hypocrite. Do you know what you are doing here? No? You are doing exactly what I was doing in my little fight wit bugs. He voted Kush who was absent and did not want to go after and pressure or discuss anyone else and I tried to explain to him how it doesn't help and how we could still vote Kush later and kill him. Still you write this:
On January 08 2014 13:06 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On a sidenote i love bugs, that's exactly how you play mafia and JAT and Corazon are being dumb. That does not mean they are scum though.

Yeah... well how much did bugs contribute before I made him do it? Exactly. Funny how you call me dumb for getting him to do something but after our last game I won't consider this logic failures a scumtell for you.
<3



You used this point against be as well iirc, and I showed hwo to me there was a definite difference between WBG's and your posting during that time. Why do you constantly find the need to come back to it?

Because what both of you are saying is bullshit and I hate being misrepresented this way. But we can drop this if you want. I don't think stupidity makes you scum.

Them's some harsh words JAT.
Who are you voting again?

Sue me. I think you know well that I am not voting anyone right now and I think you also know how this has nothing to do with this post in any way.
justanothertownie
Profile Joined July 2013
16320 Posts
January 08 2014 18:57 GMT
#888
On January 09 2014 03:55 WaveofShadow wrote:
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On January 09 2014 03:53 justanothertownie wrote:
On January 09 2014 03:51 WaveofShadow wrote:
On January 09 2014 03:48 justanothertownie wrote:
On January 09 2014 03:42 WaveofShadow wrote:
On January 09 2014 03:39 justanothertownie wrote:
This is for rayn:
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On January 08 2014 14:02 raynpelikoneet wrote:
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On January 08 2014 13:57 wherebugsgo wrote:
IIRC yamato did a similar thing the last game I played with him, Smurf Mini. Although I don't know if it was because he was scum or busy or what (I assume a combination of both) but he lurked to the point where he got replaced, then his replacement won the game for him and his team basically. (not like the replacement really did anything either, though). On day 1 we almost lynched him, but switched and lynched someone else who happened to also flip scum.

We need to consolidate on yamato as long as he continues to be worthless. He's not completely useless as town and it's incredibly scummy for him to come back only when pressured simply to post one line and leave again.

As for Cora, if he routinely plays like this (something that I will try to confirm for myself later, probably early tomorrow when I wake up) then he's probably not scum since there are ways one can justify his play from a town perspective. It's hard, but doable. However he's still a reasonable alternate choice if something drastic changes with regards to yamato.

I don't think this is a right way to go, because yamato already promised to contribute. When someone does that you leave them alone to make them feel comfortable (in case they are scum) and focus on other people. If yamato does not contribute, he claims scum and we can vote him at the end of the day.

If we vote for yamato now, regardless of his alignment, noone else is pressured and while townies should not stop contributing even when there is a clear thread sentiment that's unfortunately not the general line of thinking.
Placing votes on yamato will kill the discussion to some extent, people are more likely to contribute if they are under pressure. yamato was already under pressure and promised to contribute, that pressure has achieved what it's purpose was.

You are such a hypocrite. Do you know what you are doing here? No? You are doing exactly what I was doing in my little fight wit bugs. He voted Kush who was absent and did not want to go after and pressure or discuss anyone else and I tried to explain to him how it doesn't help and how we could still vote Kush later and kill him. Still you write this:
On January 08 2014 13:06 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On a sidenote i love bugs, that's exactly how you play mafia and JAT and Corazon are being dumb. That does not mean they are scum though.

Yeah... well how much did bugs contribute before I made him do it? Exactly. Funny how you call me dumb for getting him to do something but after our last game I won't consider this logic failures a scumtell for you.
<3



You used this point against be as well iirc, and I showed hwo to me there was a definite difference between WBG's and your posting during that time. Why do you constantly find the need to come back to it?

Because what both of you are saying is bullshit and I hate being misrepresented this way. But we can drop this if you want. I don't think stupidity makes you scum.

Them's some harsh words JAT.
Who are you voting again?

Sue me. I think you know well that I am not voting anyone right now and I think you also know how this has nothing to do with this post in any way.

No I actually was too lazy and absorbed in arguing with Cora to check atm, and had figured you had voted somebody at some point; couldn't remember.
If I had known that, the question would have been (and is now) who would you like to vote? (As I am trying to steer a conversation from the stuff you feel we can 'drop' now to something mroe releveant.)

I would LIKE to vote Kush but I have no idea about his alignment. I am undecided about the other wagons.
justanothertownie
Profile Joined July 2013
16320 Posts
January 08 2014 19:03 GMT
#892
On January 09 2014 04:00 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Corazon talks about some irrelevant misunderstanding and still refuses to tell me where thrawn's ultimate contributions to scumhunting were. Lynch with fire.

I agree. Cora generally needs to talk about other things.
justanothertownie
Profile Joined July 2013
16320 Posts
January 08 2014 19:05 GMT
#898
On January 09 2014 04:03 Mr. Cheesecake wrote:
Now that extractor is over with, fuck inactives and people that don't do shit. what in the hell, coagulation did nothing the entire game, and hammered himself at lylo AS TOWN

This coming from you is amusing. What did you do besides your chat with gumshoe and Artanis at the start of the game? All 3 of you somehow vanished after all that fluff.
justanothertownie
Profile Joined July 2013
16320 Posts
January 08 2014 19:19 GMT
#916
On January 09 2014 04:16 yamato77 wrote:
Not lynching anyone but Cora.

If I get lynched, you're all at fault and you can blame yourselves when I flip town.

peace

You will come back before the lynch I hope?
justanothertownie
Profile Joined July 2013
16320 Posts
January 08 2014 19:24 GMT
#924
On January 09 2014 04:23 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Like, in the last game, four people HAMMERED THEIR TOWNREAD!!
I don't want those kinda people alive later on in the game.
Period.

Hehe, I am so glad I outed that game.
justanothertownie
Profile Joined July 2013
16320 Posts
January 08 2014 19:28 GMT
#931
On January 09 2014 04:27 thrawn2112 wrote:
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On January 09 2014 04:25 mkfuba07 wrote:
On January 09 2014 04:19 thrawn2112 wrote:
On January 09 2014 04:16 mkfuba07 wrote:
It feels incredibly odd for a townie to consistently call out people for "lying" and "intentionally twisting words," but not feel reasonably sure that those people are scum.


Is Corazon the only person you want to lynch?

At this moment, pretty much. I keep trying to read him as a townie, but things keep jumping out at me.

Class in 5 minutes, gotta run again. Will be out of class in about 1.5 hours, then I'll be here until deadline.


I'm asking because I have no idea what your reads are because you've talked about corazon all game long. You haven't said anything about anyone else.

Wow, what a bold statement.
justanothertownie
Profile Joined July 2013
16320 Posts
January 08 2014 19:29 GMT
#932
Oh shit sorry thrawn I thought you were saying that to rayn. I am dumb.
justanothertownie
Profile Joined July 2013
16320 Posts
January 08 2014 19:33 GMT
#939
On January 09 2014 04:30 Mr. Cheesecake wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 09 2014 04:25 mkfuba07 wrote:
On January 09 2014 04:19 thrawn2112 wrote:
On January 09 2014 04:16 mkfuba07 wrote:
It feels incredibly odd for a townie to consistently call out people for "lying" and "intentionally twisting words," but not feel reasonably sure that those people are scum.


Is Corazon the only person you want to lynch?

At this moment, pretty much. I keep trying to read him as a townie, but things keep jumping out at me.

Class in 5 minutes, gotta run again. Will be out of class in about 1.5 hours, then I'll be here until deadline.


This part is interesting to me, can anyone tell me why it is interesting?

Not really. Why don't you tell me?
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